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The fact that ‘Ctrl+Alt+Del’ ends the main character’s life with him pressing a red button instead of him pressing down Ctrl+Alt+Del on a keyboard both haunts and infuriated me to this day
@@thomaswinwood I think it's mainly the fact that a webcomic that's riddles with a crap load of video game references and offers nothing of interest to anyone looking beyond "haha funny game reference" suddenly decided to feature a very heavy and serious topic like a miscarriage. It's not laughing at the topic, it's laughing at how badly mishandled it is.
@@thomaswinwood I find that we laugh at dark shit like Loss because it takes away from the horrifying nature of stuff like miscarriages and death and genocide.
@@thomaswinwood it's impossible to say something like "it's funny because" since humor is so subjective, but the main draw of the humor-in-reference is the fact that a comedic gaming webcomic decided to use a miscarriage, A MISCARRIAGE, as a plot point. That is an insanely specific, deeply personal and tragic event to make happen to your cartoon character. It's the audacity of the creator to have put such an event into his silly gaming webcomic that continues to resonate with the internet.
This video forgets one part of loss that made the comic quite heinous: when Tim explained the comic, he mentions this is based on real events with an ex... an EX. yeah they never had their happy gamer marriage. Heck, Tim made it worse by admitting he pretty much didn't feel that relationship much, and the miscarriage was pretty much an excuse to dip. what a stellar character this man is.
'when asked by a noted art scholar the appropriate distance from which to stand when viewing his magnum opus, plainly entitled "Loss", Tim Buckley famously responded, "what? fuck you!" and banned me from his forum.' this is the best-written line of anything, ever
Just finished it. Gotta admit I'm a bit sad this wasn't about Sonic 2. And I didn't really understand the video either. So... I don't know what to make of this.
The only bad thing about this masterpiece is that I have repeatedly tried to find "that really insightful hbomb vid about the room" so I could send it to someone, and couldn't find it, because it was burried inside of a flashback/alternate reality rabbit hole of a CAD video.
I genuinely kinda have NO IDEA wtf is this video about... but i understood something Some people dont want consequences for their actions. And in this case, its not even justifiable
The fact that you got naked, covered yourself in... nondistinct goo, and climbed through a picture of a comic about a miscarriage, all the while having someone FILM it, shows more dedication than I’ve ever seen 10/10
My main problem with this video is that it completely glosses over the main element that made 'Loss' so tone-deaf and ridiculed. Whenever Buckley posted a webcomic he would write a blogpost under each one offering context on the comic. The context of 'Loss' is that it's based off a real event that happened to him and his ex-girlfriend (the entire character of Lilah is based off Buckley's ex) wherein she had an actual miscarriage and they broke up shortly afterward. Buckley wrote a rant underneath the 'Loss' comic chastising his ex for being sad about the miscarriage and telling her to 'get over it'.
Wow I looked into that and he called her a sad, depressed, sack of tears. What an asshole. Apparently he gets to decide how long a woman is supposed to be upset about a miscarriage before. She was probably upset about a hell of a lot more than that tbh if she had such an emotionally immature selfish boyfriend during that dark time.
As a person who was never too deep into gamer culture, the use of the Room as a bridge to further explain your point was very insightful for helping me to grasp the full concept! And, as a person who experiences fear, you slithering naked and covered in slime from a comic book panel ensures that I will never forget these lessons!
"And as a person who experiences fear" kfksmgkf same. I was watching this at a Cafe at school and started looking around and covering my screen because how tf do I explain it if someone asks
@@Robin-jk6wz That also implies she could've gotten a lower or higher class of husband from his parent. She could've gotten a Uncommon or Superb-Legendary husband.
@@Robin-jk6wz Doesn't that mean somewhere there's people like her farming for Superb-Legendary husbands by endlessly killing hordes of mothers and throwing away lower class husbands?
Still odd to me that an old gaming webcomic has an ongoing convention that is a major part of the gaming industry And the comic itself is just odd, even amongst gaming webcomics of the time
You gotta feel bad for the girl from CTRL+ALT+DELETE, first she has a miscarriage, and then her husband mysteriously vanishes presumed dead. That's genuinely tragic.
Or that the character was born to provide a boy gamer fantasy of girl who exists just for them, to play videogames with and enjoy their body without any personal agency themselves.
I really like the phrase ‘incoherently honest’. The implication that our feelings are so tangled that if we were to communicate it correctly it wouldn’t be sensible or interpretable to anyone else.
I've always felt that art was a way to express our sometimes non-interpretable feelings in a non-direct manner. I'm a guitar player and aspiring professional musician. Once,while I was noodling,I had a mini mental breakdown over my fear of losing my dad,just before coming up with one of the best riffs I've written. Obviously,I associate it with my fear of losing my dad but my then bandmates didn't know that. However,the fact that they enjoyed it a lot,and even found it emotional without being able to tell why, is enough for me that they somehow got what I was expressing through that riff
I think the implication is closer to that the artist in question is so in the dark and tone deaf to their own situation that the art they create lays bare their perception and point of view in ways they don't comprehend to anyone willing to examine their art. That their lack of understanding of their own position renders them unable to create artifice or to contextualize it to match any image they wish to portray.
I remember studying about the difference between tacit knowledge, id est, the internal knowledge stored in our minds, and explicit knowledge a couple of months back. Our mind can only store representations of what we perceive, imperfect copies of an imperfect vision amalgamated to create a arcane reality that exists only inside our brain. Trying to express it to anyone is always imperfect and, using Shanon and Weaver's model, the best we can do in communication is trying to diminish the noise. We can create commonly shared definitions and explanations, then use these as basis to express ourselves. That, however, requires a minimum level of effort, education and good faith on all parts involved. It's easier to simply scream and vent out frustration, honestly or not, than trying to understand the reasons behind it to then convey it to others clearly.
Y’all wanna see some insane incoherent honesty? Look at how adults try to explain societal systems to children thru like cartoons and ya shit. Oh my god. Oh my god okay. An absolute goldmine of “oh you can’t actually have reached adulthood and think it’s okay to hold those ideas”
I am directly below the enemy comment I tried to think of a way to make that joke that didn’t make me call you my enemy and/or use the word scrotum. I failed. It’s 1 am. Please forgive me
I never even realized until now how gross it is to use all that birth imagery when crawling out of a comic about MISCARRIAGE. The level of artistry is more noticeable on every rewatch. Truly one of the all-time RU-vid greats.
What was wrong behind the comic was the immaturity of the creator. By turning "it" off he gives up "the things of childhood" and is reborn as a grown up man to the realization that life as an adult is just another even more incomplete and ridiculous game (or that he's reborn as an even more reckless, insane and incomplete person than before).
Whenever I rewatch this video, it's usually cause I know I've forgotten the main point of the video and the message about self-reflection and I'm like "oh I remember this now" but I NEVER REMEMBER THE LIVE BIRTH SCENE
“Blaming one man for the flaws of a broken economic system is making the same mistake as blaming Tim Buckley for accurately presenting the culture in which he exists” Fuckin’ wow.
I always felt like a minority because I was there for the "Penny Arcade Good, CAD Bad" firestorm of the internet and I always thought both comics were basically the same.
The only real issue is that CAD was derivative to the point of painful and PA occasionally had good jokes that CAD never really did. Actual art quality wise and overall vibe, though, is definitely the same.
@@ThePageofCups Not even art quality is the same. Both were pretty rough round the edges early on sure but while Krahulik's art grows a lot over the years Buckley's just gets smooth and stagnant. The comics are largely assembly line pieces with characters made out of copy-pasted assets so he never has to draw anything more than once. And yeah I'm not going to criticise someone for taking shortcuts here and there but he overdoes it to the point it became a meme: B^U (look at it sideways and you've seen 90% of the facial expressions used in the comic). But yeah PA and CAD are very similar because CAD was ultimately derivative of PA, even joking that it was derivative in its very first strip. And while both were following a very similar formula PA was generally much better executed. Buckley spoiled countless punchlines because he used too many words to setup simple jokes. Not helped by his utter dedication to a 4 panel format, a lot of his comics become genuinely funnier if you cut out 1-2 of the middle panels. Finally PA had a much clearer vision of what it was. It didn't bother with continuity or character development, it was just meant to be a funny comic. Buckley on the other hand flip-flopped between that and trying to write a sitcom and it ended up being the worst of both worlds.
I'm currently being downvoted to hell on reddit because people thought I thought they were the same thing, and then when i clarified I continued to get downvoted for saying Penny Arcade ain't all that
I need to emphasize this. I'm being dead serious. This video changed how I view a lot of things. Not just on media largely disposed of by humanity but my own thoughts and how I go about expressing myself. Embrace your cringe, friends. It's okay. You don't have to be perfect to make yourself understood. You can be loved warts and all.
it's one of the good parts about getting older. Not caring about looking cool, not having to remove 'lame' media from your shelves when people come visit, not feeling shame about liking things you never would have admitted to when you're younger. I'm in my 40s and it's so goddamn freeing
You know what I just realized? In that scene, where he's being born? There is organic camera shake. It was not set on a tripod. A person was there, filming him, naked, crawling out of Loss, covered in a facsimile of uterine juices. What an absolute trooper
At the end, when you're climbing through that comic while naked. That wasn't a tripod, someone was holding that camera. So, someone was watching you climb naked through a comic page while covered in goo. Which was probably a weird moment in their life.
@something anonymous You know, it's possible to write full sentences, or even multiple sentences, in a single comment. That might make whatever you're trying to say a bit more coherent.
There are two sides to GG. The "boys club" gamers acting like perpetual children who throw toddler riots when they don't get what they want and are scared of women. Then actual corruption in video game journalism, factually documented and attempted to be denied and covered up by a media cabal. Both are true and not mutually exclusive.
Only Chapos and Ghazis truly believe GamerGate was about what you are implying. A Wikipedia article which quotes journalists about a movement against corrupt journalists is NOT a source either. Sorry.
What was brought to light to kick-off gamergate was a questionably incomplete story to begin with. The rallying cry of "integrity in games journalism" may have brought good faith actors in, but that doesn't erase the anger and hate that underpinned the movement. If you wanted better standards in journalism, same here, but you can want that and condemn the harassment and bigotry that was a daily occurrence for women in an entire industry.
dorito brando I think it’s the way it’s presented within the video is what makes it so good. And the fact that The Room and CAD have almost nothing in common at face value
Unfortunately, he uses all that time to basically criticize the "Us angry gamers, amirite guys!?" culture that these webcomics spread. And that's it. Video over. But... Was that what the video was about? Wasn't the entire scope of what to cover with CAD more than that? Why is the video over? I mean, you call CAD a mirror, but... meanwhile the sheer mediocrity and lack of comedic value of the comics goes untouched. And, honestly, the Gamer-Rage theme was maybe less than 1% of CAD or even Penny Arcade in the first place. They're cringeworthy due association, sure, but they're not the primary reason why the comics are bad and gather hatred and memes. Trollshielding doesn't explain why people are giving the comics so much attention in the first place, not does "OPPRESSED ANGRY GAMERS!" explain why... why the comics had so many genuine fans? And what should be our takeaway from that? The comics were just bad because they were bad and gamers like it? Nothing else? It's... Gamers like bad meta humor? That certainly can't be.... Oh... The sonic twitter, and the writting of sonic games... and... ... Perhaps the masked figure was the voice of reason all along. When you try to scrutinize something where there's nothing of worth to be found, then you will find something of worth for yourself, and aggrandize it beyond the point of value the whole had in the first place. And perhaps, that IS the point of the ending. I mean, look at it. Why is it even here. What is it trying to tell us? An infantile, raving naked madman comes out from their claimed symbol of angry gamer culture like it were a womb, and looks up, towards the seemingly living embodiment of the icon of internet depravity and insanity itself. And they cackle, manically, ready to embrace and accept the sheer lunacy of what's to come. That... That's not the rendition of someone with a grasp on reason, or someone who's just found something valuable to say or on their path to look for more. It's not a depiction of enlightenment. It's someone who went down the path of corrupted rebirth. It's a corrupted meta joke, of bad humor and bad writing itself. Its' a reflection of the people analyzing bad humor, and what they'll find themselves in. It's... me.
"Is a vague direction of a joke that you mind remember from somewhere else". A bit off topic but that summarizes so well The Big Bang Theory's "Humor".
I hate Big Bang Theory's "humor" because it doesn't make nerd jokes. It makes tired jokes and appends "at Comic-Con" to the end. The worst part is that they have actual nerds on their writing staff; there's an episode where Sheldon is playing an emulated version of SM64 on his laptop and it uses accurate sound instead of generic bleep-bloop/Pac-Man
Mate I genuinely love you. You changed my life for the better by teaching me how to look critically at the world and how to question narratives. I think it’s mainly you who got me off the alt right pipeline before it was too late
@damien678 I'm not this person, obviously but I have a similar experience. Back when I was around 9 - 13 I'd say, that's when I was in it, at the very least I was being influenced by far right channels. I think the "appeal" of it is that sometimes you don't get both sides, or when you do, you're only shown the bad side (stuff like the sjw stuff they'd talk about, basically saying that everyone on the left was like that ig) It is a little fuzzy and I don't know if I'm making sense, but the appeal to me, I guess was that I thought, since my biological father followed these ideologies, maybe it's the right thing? If that makes sense. It's very hard to articulate and there's lots of other things that happened to me that are a part of it. But I think it was that I was looking in the wrong places for information and not getting both sides, not usually at least. ( I was in 50/50 custody for a looong time, thankfully my mum helped me out of it) I think the appeal was people saying things in a way that SEEMED logical, when it most definitely wasn't. I was (maybe still am) easily manipulated too. Really sorry for that, I tried to explain best I could but it'd very hard to articulate coherently. Sorry for the novella of a comment
@@damien678 I should also clarify that I'm far away from it now, I'm still very ashamed of that time in my life. I've tried my best to love and care for people but u fell into that and became the opposite for a while, I hope that I've somewhat fixed it, my ideologies and morals are completely changed from then and trying to right any wrongs I did.
@@damien678the alt-right is very good at invoking fear and anger with a simplistic view of the world, clear villains to hate, and a way to feel morally superior.
The fact that you went both metaphorically and literally balls-out for the re-birthing scene at the end is a beautiful, accurate, and succinct demonstration of what makes me adore this channel
@@joshthedude1 Same! I've seen the video before, and know the comic well enough, but something about that presentation gives it a grandiosity. It's almost like Harry is doing an art!
Unfortunately, it's very incomplete, like many more. It lacks a key element that people often ignore. Tommy Wiseau, the person, is a really abusive person, harrassing his actors, to the point that he forced himself in while they wanted to leave the movie, because it would destroy their carrier. And if you look at them now, it did. Their only work from the last decade is talking about "The Room" through books, movies, interviews, etc... Their identity now revolves entirely around this movie. It doesn't have a place in this video, so I assume that's why it was left out, but I think people should know about this when building their opinion about Wiseau and his movie
I used to work with Buckley’s then-girlfriend. She told me that when Ethan proposed to Lilah she got a LOT of phone calls and had to explain to everyone that he hadn’t actually proposed to HER. I have no idea if they’re still together but I’d bet no.
He also called her "toxic" in his blog post as an attempt at defending his decision to make a public comic about her real-life miscarriage, so I'm going to guess they aren't together, no.
I unironically liked CAD a long time ago. I remember the day Tim posted Loss. It was very confusing. I continued to read the comic for several more years, well past him killing off his own characters and rebooting it. I am not a smart man. Bonus note: I also remember him posting an entire short story that was a Hunger Games ripoff of gaming and paintball because he couldn't be bothered drawing the entire thing. I remember downloading this and reading it and I have never found it again, nor seen or heard anyone ever mention it. I swear it exists, but I'm also beginning to think I hallucinated it.
Was that the story that was a special Wintereenmas present for Ethan? All of the players have specific game-related designations, I think Ethan was a Megaman sub tank. There was also a bit where he had to use the bathroom but it was a trap and he had to answer some gaming trivia about Castlevania 2 or get doused in paint. I read that story once and that was at least a decade ago. Whenever it came out. So if any of that seems familiar, you're not hallucinating. I also read it. Edit: I wrote Megaman and my phone autocorrected it to "Megan's."
I think that story may have been a Patreon thing or something of that sort, because it isn't in the webcomic itself, and I faintly remember it being intentionally separated from the web page.
I'm just remembering the gamers I knew when I worked at a major office supply chain and imagining how they would have reacted if you'd come into our store and asked to print out a 3' x 5' poster of loss.jpg.
How the absolute Hell did you cleanly find a thematic connection between The Room and Penny Arcade/Ctrl-Alt-Del then make a REALLY poignant message about people at the same time?
Somesh Chakrabortty its simple. You blame both. You blame the culture for systemic issues, and individuals when they represent the negative traits of their culture overtly. You fight the system without giving up personal responsibility. And when people have a chance to become better and learn, yet they do not, you blame em even more
If you make broad statements and generalize everything then force your points into something while at it you end up being able to connect anything you want, shame he does this so much. He presents everything as a self-evident truth with no effort to prove anything he says at all. In fact I'll summarize his points so you can see if you agree with them after all the filler is taken out. CAD/PA/bad video game company decisions are a representation of gamer culture/games industry Tommy Wiseau is blind about his flaws., in the same way everyone is also blind to their own flaws Or to put it in a simple sentence. The flaws in our culture are an extension of our personal flaws. How he manages to stretch that out into 30+ minutes is the real miracle here.
The point of the video is to give that point, but to have the viewer come to that conclusion naturally with time to think about it during the video. Its beauty is how masterfully it shows it without outright stating "The flaws in our culture are an extension of our personal flaws.", and how the viewer can feel like it is self-evident truth, and sure it leaves everything up for debate, but it feels unnecessary after watching the video.
Arkangel630 at the end of the day it’s just his opinion on things and he’s only trying to convince others of his perspective. He only presents it where it appears to be truth because otherwise it won’t be as impactful. It’s like essays in college and high school where they told you never to say “I think” or “I feel” as just by admitting that people take your point less seriously. Of course they also say not to use pronouns such as “I” or “You” which hbomberguy does utilize, but it’s a RU-vid video so the format will be changed a bit to better catch the attention of the audience as it’s not an essay but more of a presentation.
No one is going to read this, but I still want to say that responding to "Why are you doing this?" with "Don't do this to yourself." is such a great horror/mystery exchange.
Have you ever seen a review on RU-vid, and thought, "Hey, this is great, but I wish it was directed by David Lynch!" Well, you've come to the right video!
@@elijahmeilak2906 im not sure what you are missing, but the joke is that when he is saying "a noted art scholar" asked Buckley a question, we don't know that he is talking about himself until he reveals that he banned hbomb from his forum
@@glowcloudwheatproducts495 Yeah, I figured it out not too long after I posted the comment and felt pretty stupid. I think I was focusing too much on the “What? Fuck you.” response so I wasn’t paying attention to the change from ambiguous third person to first person. Thank you for the reply though!
Hbomberguy: insightful and meaningful analysis of how issues with media can relay to us a deeper meaning about the authors and the society that consumes them intertwined with an intriguing horror narrative me: hehe the the typewriter gets cut off at ‘anal’
@@nenmaster5218 Considering the right-wing have gotten only more delusional, I can safely say I am. 3 years running, still a fan. If you are pro-gay and pro-worker, you are not a fan of conservatism, flat out.
@@GimOA The idea you and Nen are disingeniously trying to imply is that people who think hbomberguy is insightful simply don't know better or are too young to understand. I refute such an argument by including myself, just as you do now. If I were to use your same logic, I would ask: Was I talking to you?
This is still one of Hareton Splimby's most creative and entertaining videos. They're always thoughtful and poignant, but don't always rise to this level of sheer artistry.
I just realized after maybe... The twentieth? Twenty first? Time watching this, that the editing of the video is a very well done attempt to emulate the experience of following the disjointed segments of the webcomic.
What genuinely frustrates me isnt Jack Thompson's opinion on how video games make people violent, what frustrates me is how this Buckley person frames all gamers as childish entitled men who when agrued with or questioned resort to threats and violence. If I wasnt already into the video game medium, I would look at this comic and think that Jack Thompson is on to something and video games should be banned. Buckley wasnt helping his case in the slightest.
"this Buckley person frames all gamers as childish entitled men who when agrued with or questioned resort to threats and violence" something something gamergate
I used to think Sherlock was going to be my go-to video while working and then I thought Vaccines or Pathologic might knock it off the top spot. But 12:21 will always send shivers down my spine when I hear the music reach its climax.
upchuckles I started reading comments in the last three moments and read this comment with only seconds to spare. I fathomed their meaning a split second before he burst through. 10 out of 10
I was watching Nerdsync and got a notification for Hbomberguy and opened that to watch it in another tab, and found Nerdsync in the comments. My head just exploded.
I used to be super into Ctrl+Alt+Del as a teenager and young adult and your message about people disliking it because they don't like what they see in the mirror hit me hard. Because I do hate the comic now and I do hate the angry, small minded version of me who liked those comics. I wonder what I enjoy and love now that I will someday despise and look back on as an extension of my own negative qualitites and beliefs?
I came into this without reading any "gamer humor" webcomics just 'cause I like hbomberguy. I left more confused than I entered, but it was pretty fun. Also, sadly, have never seen "The Room." Also didn't realize that the miscarriage in a webcomic was ACTUALLY a thing, and not just the joke that Yahtzee made in a Zero Punctuation way back when
Dead on, if the comic wasn't all over the place all the time.... the plots lead up, and loss itself were actually well thought out for what we got... unfortunately with the series longstanding stance of playing it dumb and fast it...
A lot of things would need to be better about that comic, but many things about it needn’t be much different. One major key would have to be self-awareness that going from video game slapstick to miscarriage was nearly as fatal a tonal shift as one could imagine, and either preparing for that or being prepared for its aftermath. But very few creators have the desire to pull such a (yes this is intentional) “Sucker Punch” on their audience, and fewer still have the skill and self-awareness to pull it off (no, Zach Snyder does not have them). But yeah, in the context of a serious drama in sequential art form, the very same wordless four panels could be very powerful were it simply drawn in a style more conducive to heartbreaking emotions.
I feel like hbomb explicitly mentions this when he says the comic manages to convey an entire journey through a hospital in four frames and no words loss itself could be a powerful moment if it were anywhere near where it needed to be published
Well, it has clearly become something else. A lot of people go to those conventions, and I guarantee most of them have no idea that's how it originated.
i can’t believe an hbomberguy video about CTRL+ALT+DEL made me have my own revelation about my ethnicity and culture and how ive adapted the internet as my own culture, thanks
SueDonym irony is what the coastal elites use to keep the good honest working man like me down humour is the hammer that strikes against the lower classes and i have had damn near enough of it thank you very much you can stick it where your own sun don't shine and leave me out of it give me sonic that's all i want
I can't remember if I've commented this before, but "Loss" as a single work in isolation is actually... good? As a means of wordlessly expressing an event through sequential art, while also expressing the feelings of that event, it's surprisingly successful... which then kind of makes it worse in the context of CAD overall because it's so atonally weird.
It doesn't exist in isolation, tho. The slightest bit of context - i.e., the couple of comics that came before and after it - make the entire thing just so goddamn baffling.
@@madder9166 I disagree. I find the idea that four panel comics are exclusive to comedic usage quite silly; at its base form, the four panels are simply used to set up suspense and deliver a payoff. Nearly all forms of media utilise that same scheme, so to say it is an error to use that same setup is quite frankly, silly.
I remember while I was catching up with CAD like a year or two after Loss was created, I accepted it as it was since the basic premise of the comic was to show random narratives, rather than trying to maintain a cohesive tone. I didn't find out that there was a big furor over Loss until years later, and I'm still not sure why it gets ridicule/flak to this day. Maybe I needed a dose of serious content at the time, or was just a naive media consumer, or didn't have any expectations for the comic. I don't know, I still consider it to be good art, or at least good to me.
It is the Year of Our Lord 2022 and I just used this video to explain loss.jpg to my 11 year old daughter, who sent a variation to me without knowing any part of it
Everyone stands around Hareton Splimby in a field. They all smile. *Congratulations* Everyone claps as Splimby smiles and finds his confidence, a second too late.
Seriously: why are Lattes considered a drink for snobbish rich hypocrites? It's among the simplest drinks you could order at a coffee shop: just coffee with extra milk.
Thanks for making me aware of how silly that is! My humble guess is that it's one iffy stereotype that debuted on a popular tv show decades ago and snowballed its way into the collective subconscious. My little Bolshevik circle uses "cortado" as the pretentious man's drink. Why even stick with the coffee imagery? Well, we know a man who found it hiLARious that a rustic diner didn't recognize the drink. Such was his gleeful contempt that he delivered it as a joke to his drinking buddies a week later, including the man who told me. I usually just trash comments after I've thought them out, since it's pretty self-indulgent to act like my sh**ty scribbles and necroposts under the actual content matter in the least, but you've inspired me. Maybe together we can make the"corTAdo" assume the humble latte's bad rep. Or we could not judge people by the content of their cups.
“Latte” calls to mind places like Starbucks, which serve notoriously crappy and overpriced coffee with unhealthy amounts of sugar and calories, which in turn serves as an embodiment of the perversion of American capitalism.
It has several reasons but no one pointed out the fact that it's an Italian word, using non English words is usually seen as pretentious. It happens in several cultures and nations, haven't you ever heard "In this country we speak American!" rants?
Lattes are also coded as feminine (at least in American culture), and therefore bad. REAL MEN (tm) drink their coffee black, because milk is for SISSIES, or something.
As a nerdy woman who has known tons of cringey and creepy men with overinflated nerd egos reminiscent of characters from CAD or PA, that is why I hate those comics. It's like having to put up with them all over again. Gives me shivers
out of everything in this video, the most shocking thing to me was the revelation that PAX was started by penny arcade- and thusly, must stand for penny arcade expo. that’s what shook me to my core.
When I heard that it was genuinely shocking. It was like Harris Bomberguy just told me my best friend had been dead for five years. It's like. Has my whole life been a lie?
it's weird because, out of context, Los is a pretty good page. The lack of dialog is a valid choice within comic theory, it was just surrounded by stuff that was objectively bad and severely broke the tone. Also this video is intensely surreal and im loving it
@Cidney Lysander To be fair to you, PAX hasn't really had anything to do with Penny Arcade in years. They created it, but they don't organize it any more. Presumably they still make money off of it, but it has become its own thing, the same way the Child's Play charity has.
I think another detail in The Room that proves that theory, is that Mark appears unaware of what he is doing at all times. Even when he has already slept with Lisa he acts like he has no idea what is going on. From 'Johnnys' point of view the guy banging his girlfriend isn't to blame, it's the girlfriend. Like, Mark is weirdly innocent the whole movie isn't he?
reyrapids63 I think Tommys very strange relationship with Greg played into the writing as well. Like he didn't want to make his best friend look bad maybe?
To be completely fair, a relationship is a kind of contract you sign with someone. You set rules for what's allowed so you can both benefit. When someone cheats they break that contract, but the person they cheat with never made one. The fault is on the person who broke the promise, ultimately. I honestly think society puts too much blame on the person one cheats with. It's the cheater's responsibility to tell their partner they can't hold up their side of the "contract" and either break up or make new terms.
@@TheVolginator yeah "whose fault was it?" is often a key point in toxic relationships. It really tells a lot about a person when you see who they target all their blame towards, and more importantly, who they decide is innocent.
Loss is my favorite meme. Coming from all the weirdness described in the video, it made the rounds on 4chan and stuff with the narrative being "lol woman bad, sexism, haha miscarriage jokes" to the total postmodern deconstructivism of "how much can we remove from this to make it still recognizable as loss" (| |I || |_) and then to "how weird can we arrange other things and still make it recognizable as loss" It's the most beautiful evolution of a meme I've ever seen.
Even bad art can tell us a lot, even if it's about the culture of the artist and their audience. I have to admit though the biggest shock to me was learning CAD and Penny Arcade were different strips. I only ever saw them in passing and the jokes and designs were so similar at a glance that I always just assumed Penny Arcade was just a newer version with more detailed art.
Goodness, you were ignorant about one of the first webcomics, which has survived for twenty five years in a diverse and changing media landscape, and one of its most successful imitators? You must be a truly superior intellect. Thank you for sharing your greatness with the world.
