(picking 271) ABUS 165/40: Open shackle decoding a 4 wheel combination padlock, locked up open state 

Cheers :-) Happy it helped.

Thanks for the compliment - makes me happy that I could infect you with the combo virus ;-) Have fun :-)

You're welcome - glad you were successful.

Thank you. I believe sooner than later you will able to test your assumption ;-)

Thank you.

Glad to read - thanks for the feedback.

Glad you were successful. Cheers :-)

Haha, glad you had success. Thanks for sharing.

Cheers and thanks for watching.

Thanks for the nice comment - appreciate it.

ja i hab 30minuten gebraucht keine hilfe

Glad you had success.

Thanks for the feedback. Funny that many people have the problem of a locked up combination padlock in the open state. By the way: There are locks that have a different mechanism to disengage the inner from the outer wheel (needed when changing the combo). These locks need very light pressure as heavy pressure would just cause the inner wheel to stay in place: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NHotXNIwbWI.html

I've looked at that vid before - I guess the much better build quality of the Abus means that it doesn't go into 'combination change mode' when you push-pick, whereas the cheap lock does...but you found the secret of how to push-pick the cheap one anyway.

Just waiting for people complaining that the heavy push method of this video "just doesn't work" on their lock ;-)

:o)

Thank you. Many question arose for that situation. Seems this happens to people sometimes in reality. Happy that you can approve the method :-)

Never happened to me, but now in case it ever happens, I'm well trained by the number lock master :D.

same here

Thank you - your feedback makes me really happy :-)

Thank you.

Glad it helped.

Thank you :-)

You could try to decode it open. What happens when you pull on the shackle and turn the wheels? Do you feel resistance?

Yes, it requires patients and sensitivity, but I love decoding just because of that. Thanks for the feedback.

Not sure but it sound to me that you didn't push down the shackle deep enough and hence your lock is actually not in change-mode.

Thank you - I really like combination locks :-)

Thanks for the feedback - glad you could use the info from my video.

My pleasure :-)

Does it have false gates? Checked out my play list on combination locks (ru-vid.com/group/PLuSaKS-pr3L81psh-vAVyp7R6Te1n5M37), especially this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eNhKRSqncYs.html which covers a method for defeating false gates.

Yes, could be broken, but I doubt it. If you are not experienced in understanding the feedback it might be hard to correctly apply the method. Can you explain the type of feedback you get?

Same with mine did you fix it yet. If you did can you explain it to me thank you

So you could solve your problem?

Thanks for the kind feedback :-)

What exactly prevents aligning the shackle correctly?

@@Potti314 the lock has a raised surface when locked. So the shackle cant reach the closing point.

Can you try to decode the lock when pulling out or pushing in the shackle located in the change-position? Do you feel resistance on the wheels?

Try playing with the shackle height.

I'll check with my Master lock - just make sure the shackle is really well aligned over the hole otherwise it will never bind.

Same for mine. There is no feedback in any position.

I can just say that you need to line up the shackle as good as possible and vary the pressure to get best feedback.

Thank you - a lot of fun for me with these combination locks. Don't believe the manufacturers have ever thought people would buy these products for entertainment ;-)

Yes, they have a toy factory without knowing it LOL ;-)))

Not really, play around with pulling or pushing and feeling if you get resistance on the wheels.

Did you figure it out? This is where mine is stuck

Update, I was able to get it to pushed back up but now it’s stuck in the same position as the video and I can’t figure it out 😭

Got it :)

Mine is stuck this way, too. It was stuck open like in the video, I got it decoded and closed it, and it locked up when I went to change the combo. Don't remember what the old combo is, and can't get all the wheels to bind very well now

OK, try pulling or pushing and decode it. Hope you'll have success.

Please try the same method as show in the video. I will see if I can test the method on my 4 wheel master lock and let you know about tricks / tip. Might take one or two days.

Try decoding it open.

Thank you :-) Well, I have checked the website where they show the squire locks and also watched a video where they demonstrated the use (they seem to be really tough - also one with guarded shackle is available). It could be built in the same way like the TOKOZ (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Inhc3LUbhFA.html ) where you cannot directly tension the locking mechanism (similar to a safe lock). So I suspect that it cannot be decoded by normal techniques. Maybe you need to attach a stethoscope (which I tried without success on the TOKOZ) or need to find other creative ways. Well, I will never say no to a lock. But I doubt that I will be successful in decoding. Also I might need to keep it for a while until I find the time to focus it. So if you still wanna loan it, I'll send you my address.

And thank you for your kind offer, anyway. Cheers, Michael :-)

Potti314, yes email me your address today as I'm going to the post office in the morning. My email address is in all of my vid descriptions or you can pm me via uklocksport. Don't worry about time. It's yours to keep and assess at your leisure

It doesn't depend on the number of digits / wheels.

Can you pull the shackle and decode it?

I have tried that. Yes there are numbers that are tough to turn but unlike some you I have ZERO skillz on feeling for the correct number to try. I have no patience but there is something within me that wants or needs to be able to crack it. Takes me back to all the swearing I did over Rubiks Cube and the sweet feeling I got after cracking it. Thank you for trying to help. 👍🏻

Well, if you have no patients, then leave it alone. I love to play with combo locks for fun not for getting a job done.

Try with less pressure.

If the wheels bind up tightly try with less pressure on the shackle and start with the one that stays binding.

It worked!!! Wow I guess I kinda got lucky with it I dunno how. I just kept on trying. It’s a difficult lock. But I would not have done it without your help! Thanks 👍🏻

Thank you for letting me know. Appreciate your kind feedback. Cheers.

Cheers :-)

OK, I'll see if my master lock behaves any different than shown in this video.

I also have this problem

Thanks for the feedback :-)

I only have a 145/20. On that lock you cannot lock up the lock if the shackle is open. Pull picking it is fairly easy (no false gates): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZG4U1ZfMuLg.html Try different tension methods and especially check that the shackle is perfectly aligned when trying to close-pick the lock.

I would pull or push (depending what is needed) and decode it accordingly.

Oh, I can just say try pulling or pushing on the shackle and wiggling the wheels. Good luck.

@@Potti314 ok thx

Then it's locked up in the change position. Guess you have to decode it to get it fully open. Pull on the shackle and try to decode it. Good luck.

@@Potti314 yeah I was moving it around and I guess I got lucky now its fixed

I'd say so, but I haven't tried it yet.

Yes the shackle ;-) Can you pull or push the shackle and feel resistance of the wheel. If yes, you might be able to decode it.

I tested it with my master 4 wheel combination lock. It works in the same manner but it requires some feeling. Try pushing the shackle with different power and see if this changes the feedback on the wheel.

Thank you. Yes, the thumb - without band aid you would have seen an ugly and terrible bloody fingers which perhaps would have caused the video to become censored ;-) All my locks are tame and would never bite me by purpose. But just like when feeding animals, sometimes accidents happen ;-)

Aah, hungry animals. You may need to invest in some chain maille mittens. :)

Thank you.

Potti314 although for mine I had to turn the shackle 90 degrees to change it as it had a couple of notches one for it to sit in the locking chamber and 1 to reset

What lock is it? I tried to reach the state that you described with the ABUS but without success. If you carefully push down the shackle, can you then turn the top two wheels and do you feel varying resistance?

Potti314 I actually ended up getting it with pulling tension instead of pushing. It's a Hampton lock but looks identical to the brinks one you did. That video helped with the different technique.

Good to read - thanks for the feedback.

Sorry, but I make videos when I have time and I feel inspired. You need to wait or buy a new lock. Sorry.

Cheers - glad that I could help.

What lock is it?

Thanks - appreciate your feedback.

Beware of Chinese locks, they seem to be dangerous ;-)

No big force is required. Just check that the shackle is placed properly above the hole in the body.