In this first video on the new Elite Fit Golf channel, we test out two shafts on a 110 mph swing speed. One is a 75 gram X Stiff, and one is a 55 gram Senior Flex. Check out the results we got. Remember to subscribe!!
Congrats on the new channel. Look forward to your future content. You do a great job of demystifying the issues related to fitting and club builds. All the best.
This kind of confirms a thing I just experienced. I have a TM M2 #3hybrid with a regular SS shaft that I have absolutely fought with for 2 seasons. Warming up for a round with my wife the other day, I took her 3h with a shorter, much more flexible shaft and hit absolute bombs with it, and my pull and slice issues went away. I'm 5'7", so the length was ok. I'm in my 50s , so I've lost some of the strength and flexibly of my youth, and I'm really starting to think that going shorter, lighter, more flexible across my whole set might be the thing. (My set was not fitted for me, just off the rack). Congratulations on the new channel, best of luck with it, and I'll keep watching both channels.
This is an interesting video, seeing this young strong player swing a senior shaft and have it out preform his X stiff shaft is amazing. The video doesn't explain the physics but I get it. I recently switched from a 60g Regular shaft to a 50g senior or R2 shaft and gained 20 yards.What was even more even better I have been hitting went from 79% FIR to 84% FIR over the last 10 rounds. My average spin rate went from over 4000rpm's to 2900rpm"s
Hi AJ, love this video and I'll be using it to show my golf buddies who don't believe me when I show up with my Cleveland Launcher LX with a ladies shaft and outdrive them. I'm a big Tom Wishon fan and have shortened the shaft because of my WTF measurement.
I am literally trying this now already so perfect timing! I have an Evenflow Riptide CB 40 5.0 Flex on the way to pair with my G430 SFT 10.5 Driver head. And now I want to order this shaft as well. 😂😂 Awesome stuff!
AJ, first congrats on the new channel. Second, this shaft experiment is great. I did this with a Ventus blue. Went from 7x to 5A tipped 1 inch and butt cut to length. Did my experiment the middle of last year and will never turn back. i did the same with my 7 wood and 5 hybrid with great success.
You have convinced me. This is another good example with a pretty strong player. I have tried a couple shafts, 50g stiff Evenflow Riptide which you recommended in another video with Mr Shortgame, and also a 60g 5.5 hzrdus im10 and had really good results on course. They allow you to swing easier. I have had a round where I hit every fairway and another with my lowest score ever. Just ordered a new callaway with 50g 5.5 hzrdus silver on Black Friday sale. My gut keeps telling me I should have gotten stiff but this video helps reaffirm 😂
Really cool. Been watching your videos with MSG on this topic. I play a cobra LTDX with the blue RDX x flex because the stiff seemed to be way less accurate. Gonna have to find a motore f3 r2 for it. I use that shaft in stiff flex in my Radspeed 3w and it feels very stable. Makes sense this would work. Best of luck on the channel.
Really interesting test for your first video on this channel! Thats a lovely swing. I can only dream of such a smooth swing resulting in such fast ball speed.
Great comparison and great video. This is explain very well the raison why every golfer should be fitted and not buy the the rack. Good luck in you new RU-vid channel.
Congrats AJ on the new channel. cant wait to see more vids. You said that results may differ depending on your swing (jerky). Why not have a higher Hdcp golfer hit those, i think that would be more relevant to most golfers.
I always like using better golfers on these tests because they can repeat the same swing over and over and thereby give us cleaner data. Using a less consistent golfer would require a much larger sample size I think to get good data. Not saying I won't in the future, but that's my reason why I don't use my own swing! 😅
Just got my Motore X in the mail, matched the exact specs in this video. Extremely whippy, easy to control the shape of the shot tho. I can tell there is a ton of energy being transferred to the ball because even the mishits were penetrating. I'll admit with range balls they overspin and with the balls what have almost no dimples the will apex and nosedive hard. I've got to see what this does with my gamer ball. Im pretty sure it's a winner.
Would love to see you find a shaft similar to the Bgt Brava. Got to hit it in the studio and had great results (much better than autoflex which I alternated between snap hooks and baby fade bombs) 10 straight 5 to 8 yard pulls but it's also really expensive
Lol - I moved from my Atmos blue 65 X flex to Atmos Red R2 55gm - I noticed my tempo improved, able to easily draw and got extra distance but had to change my Titleist surefit hosel notch to fade to counter the mis-hit extra pull left.
His transition got way better when the Motore shaft was in play. That is why I don't pay attention to flex, just what bend profile makes a swing transition properly and get the best strike.
Im 95mph swing and the heavier shaft is harder work, easier to slice and flight/carry is less. I found 50g too hard to control, ball strikes all over the face with some balloons. I do use the lighter shaft in my fairway wood though as I want higher flight and shorter stopping distance. For driver a 60g stiff flex works best for my swing speed so for a 80mph swing I suggest you compare reg flex 60g to 45/50g A/L. Go to a fitting day with launch monitor, you will see all the data...
My old boss was a PGA professional class A member, long drive pro, and trick shot artist. He had a "club" he used for his trick shot shows. It was a garden hose with a driver head attached to the end of it. He could still hit that over 300 yards. Sometimes the softer shafts make you slow down a touch and be smoother.
Are you sure about the "over 300 yards" thing? with severe limitations in backswing and initial acceleration? How far does he hit it with a graphite shaft? 500 yards? is he thor or captain america? sounds like the stuff that comes out of the back of a male bovine
@asdfjkl981 💯 sure on the 300 yard part. He was the NCAA long drive champion twice. He was a 3 time All American along side Lee Janzen and Rocco Mediate. He hosted long drive competitions on the LDA Tour in the early 2000's and was a World Trick Shot Champion. You may gladly look him up. Ben Witter is his name. He was on his way to the PGA Tour right after college when he was diagnosed with cancer. I've personally seen the garden hose club hit balls over 300. It's all about creating centrifugal force properly. I've hit the exact same club and it's generally not hard to hit. I couldn't hit it that far, but I could still move it out there. I've seen him hit drives well over 375 carry up hill. He trained World Long Drive champ Carl Wolter out of reading. Carl acknowledges him in his winning interview during his 2nd win. It's on RU-vid.
@@industrialpalletworx3548 again. backswing and initial acceleration. both lack. even if he is thanos and his golf glove has the infinity stones on it. it is just impossible. even if he hits it 400 yards uphill with a graphite shaft. rather show me the video of someone with a gardenhose shaft doing the 300 yards carry. than some guy mentioning him.
@asdfjkl981 if I had the video I would certainly upload it. I think your concepts are a bit confused. You need speed moving into impact. Trying to be fast at transition is no bueno. Whether you believe it or not, doesn't really matter to me. I know what I saw repeatedly. It is quite literally the exact same concept as cracking a whip. Did you know almost all long drivers today use senior or ladies flex shafts. Why? Cracking the whip concept. Stiffness relates more to accuracy than distance. Softer shafts can provide more distance.
Though it would take a bit of extra work as a club builder but, I would like to see what the results would look like if the swing weights were matched.
Weird question. I wanted to test this, so, I’ve been buying old drivers with different shaft flexes and putting tips on them for my drivers. Is that bad? I’m having my golf store pull the old heads, since I don’t have a shaft puller. I’m getting a YS-6 XFlex next week. I have several stiff flexes. Bubble shafts don’t work.
Great video AJ! If I take a Grafalloy ProLauunch Blue 45 gm A flex (5.0 torque high launch, High Spin) and tip it 1 inch for a driver, what will that do to the characteristics of the shaft?
Looking forward to all the content on your new channel. What other shafts would be equivalent to the Motore X F3 5 R2 or is this one kind of unique for the price of $225? Would love to see a comparison of any similar shafts for someone with a swing speed of 88-92 mph.
Similar weight, launch and 2 flexes softer than what you "should" play will usually yield results like these assuming your swing can time up the more flexible shaft.
I currently have the Project X Hzrdus smoke red RDX in 60g 6.0 Stiff 3.5 degree torque. I typically have issue with my launch and feel that I need to swing really hard to get the distance I want. I am wondering if you have any suggestions for a lighter and more flexible shaft.
@@EFG2 Awesome cannot wait! The only problem I have it finding one of these shafts already tipped with a Taylormade adapter. Do you have a video on how to retip a driver?
I’ve noticed some of the Long Drive guys have started using auto flex shafts too, is there a point where these non-autoflex shaft rules breakdown at the extreme end (eg. LD 48” 140mph+ swing speeds)? Would love to see a “budget” LD driver built and tested. Not least as, though I’m new to golf I’m inspired by your videos and fancy having a go building my own some day! Would make an awesome addition to the collection to have Martin Borgmeier on your channel kranking it up!
Would a 45g Aldila NVS NXT shaft in A flex fit the bill for my experiment? I currently game a 60g XStiff Project X RDX Green shaft, very curious about this 🤔. Maybe with the lighter weight shaft I can crank the driver loft all the way down to 7deg and see what happens.
Fits my 10g and 2 flex class drop rule. Again this method won't work for everyone, just like the Autoflex shaft that I based all these videos on, won't work for everyone. But if you can get used to the feel and timing, I think that shaft should work and I like the idea of going full hulk on the loft. Let me know how it works if you go ahead with it.
Would you have the same results if the comparison was with someone already playing a senior shaft? Would the above results also apply to a 3 wood? Look forward to watching your new channel.
Why is Keenans spin so high from both shafts? I always thought 2500 and below was ideal. Strike related or negative angle of attack? Nice video. Congrats on the new channel.
Hi AJ based on your Autoflex video I’ve just put an Evenflow CB 50 40R shaft in my Epic Max LS so keen to give it a go. I’m currently gaming a Ping G400 LST with Hzrdus Yellow handcrafted 6.5 76gm. I’ll let you know how it goes.
Your best point was smooth vs quick/ jerky. Your subject has a smooth swing. He is young with good club head speed. He can do well with just about any shaft. Senior flex shafts are for seniors that have no other option because of their age related lack of club head speed.
Not true. World distance champion with a 150+ mph swing speed crushed a bunch using a 45g ladies shaft. Swing speed jumped to 153 mph and ball speed was around 213 mph right down the middle... with range balls 😂😂😂
@@gcoffey223 That’s a remarkable result in his case. However, if you asked him if that would be his shaft of choice if he were to go out and play a round of golf that meant something i’m sure he would opt for an extra stiff shaft not a ladies shaft.
There are no absolutes, a senior flex shaft can obviously achieve better results. Everything depends on the player, their consistency and the speed of their swing. I really enjoyed this video.
how does total weight affect the performance of a golfclub? And whats the difference in performance of a 280 gram abd a 320 gram club with the same swingweight?
I’ve never understood the “stiffer flex is better,” theory. Idk how current hockey is but I know years ago you wanted a stick with more flex and all the guys who shot 100mph used really whippy twigs. I thought the same would apply in golf.
After getting some fitting theory basics from Mobile, TXG and others……… With 95 SP, 15° Launch, +2.5° AOA, 2,800 Spin Callaway Rogue SZ 9°, HZRDUS 65 gr, Stiff from local fitting Prolaunch Blue 45 gr, Reg, left 48” + Callaway adapter = no difference in distance or Dispersion Cut Prolaunch down to 45” = +5 yards, no dispersion difference, nice feel Add Callaway green tour adapter, turn down to 7°. =Boom + 15 yards total Conclusion…….. Balls , shafts and clubs don’t study theory.
Still looks like it fits the rules. Lighter weight shaft give move speed. More flexible shaft improves timing with lighter shaft. Length gets tricky because longer club will always lead to less consistent strike pattern. You also had good LA to start with so not surprising you can get more out of dropping a couple degrees of loft. But again all of this is just generalization. Might work well with one golfer, and be a disaster for another. That's golf.
your vidoes are confusing. 1 video you say weight is more important than flex, another video you say weight has no impact on swing speed, and this one you say lighter weight is beneficial. SMDH Starting to think I cant take you seriously.
Consider checking out drivers from TMW - Titanium Metal Works. USA. Specialize in seniors super light drivers, e.g. light one total, head, shaft, grip as low as 247 gms. And they believe in longer shafts with these lighter weights, up to 48 in drivers (legal in private tournaments unless loca rules apply...they say). I had one, 47 in, finding center no problems really, worked well for me. Lighter also easier on my back problems. Try one out for us seniors okay? Should be very interesting. The shafts come in as low as 38 gms I think, R, S, A, lite etc. flex. Thanks for this review. Look forward to more in this format.
