What shaft SHOULD you use? Incredible results!! 

Great video Andy and love how you relate to us average golfers. I got interesting results couple weeks ago when I got fitted as well. My best combination of spin, dispersion, launch angle and still maintaining ball speed/carry was with a heavier stiff shaft cut down 1 inch, tipped a half inch - 105 club speed. My fitter analyzed my launch angle, swing path and apex to determine the best shaft for me and the tiny amount of club speed I lost going shorter was more than made up for with better spin and launch angle so that my carry was still better by nearly 10 yards than the longer shaft. I never would’ve been able to come to those conclusions without the proper fitting. Keep up the great work!

Spot on mate !! Excellent content and very interesting!! I’m now using a 50g stiff shaft which I never have used before and never thought I would use !! I was 60g and above !! But just shows you what a custom fit can unearth 👍

Great video, I’m having a fitting next week, my first in 8 years and I’m taking your advice and going with an open mind with clubs, shafts , etc. thanks

Among some of the best videos on RU-vid regarding golf. Thank you.

Great comparison...Gamed the G410 plus last year with the Alta 55 Stiff 1” short and have never been more confident in a driver ,hit more fairways than ever ! 🍻

Great video Andy I've never played a driver , as never got on with one . After coming back to golf and finding all the different youtube channels with all the reviews ,info ,lessons I bought a mini driver on the fact that most videos said they where more of a fairway finder being in the shorter bracket. This follows your results of the video the only difference between the two clubs is yours still uses a head you would normally use and a shorter shaft where the mini drivers have a higher loft as well

Great vid Andy!ive been tinkiering with these as well and found exactly the same exept the lighter shaft gave me too much spin as my spin is already on the line...therefore i was lauching higher and losing carry but also fading more often...

Great video. I as a mid handicapper got fitted last year. Tested various but went for the 1 inch shorter shaft in 55g regular. Most data was comparable (launch, spin etc) but got more distance, better dispersion and ball speed in the shorter one. Probably mostly down to improved confidence but helped me no end.

Great test, Andy. Very eye opening. I think you’re correct with the shorter shaft, you hit it more on the sweet spot. For me that would make a big difference. I would try anything to hit it more in the middle of my driver, including a shorter shaft. Great stuff!

Andy, so happy to see your test. I'd like to try the Epic Speed with Project X Smoke IM10 50g shaft cut down to 45".

Great review, Andy - I had a Callaway Fusion Big Bertha driver that has a shorter shaft and surprised how more accurate it was, but didn't see any distance gains. Agree what you say - try different options at a fitting!

Really interesting results there Andy. Not what I would have expected. The most interesting was the 1" shorter shaft

Similar experience for me. I game a 44" Driver shaft... way better dispersion and increased distance because I'm finding the middle with more confidence. I imagine it's different for everyone and worthy of testing.

Thanks. I enjoy your videos and perspective, as our swings are very similar. I agree it is worth the money to get properly fitted clubs. It definitely helps from the confidence perspective!

glad i saw this today....tomorrow i am going for a fitting for a driver / a fairway wood or two / and a hybrid......will for sure try an inch shorter for all.....i am 5'7 and 56 years old swing speed of around 90 - 94 with driver...leaning to the Ping G425 in all of them and gonna for sure try out the 7 wood cause of your previous review of that club....again great video...cheers from Canada

One of the lads I play golf with, who's a low single figure handicap, has a shorter shaft, and his driving is so consistent. He thought he'd lise distance, but being in play was more important. He really hasn't lost any distance, and before the lockdown, he was playing really good golf. I'm thinking of shortening my driver shaft, but will need to test it first.

Andy I have always used a driver shaft 43 inches long. If I go up to 44 or 45 inches my dispersion and swing control suffer enormously and I hit less fairways. It has worked for me for last 30 years and I see no reason to alter this. Keep up the really informative and objective comment. Positively helpful to this very average golfer. Cheers. Colin

Thanx for the data on the Epic driver head as I use the exact one with a regular flex and shaft length and in the beginning sliced a lot till I set the head loft and lie which has made a huge difference. Am still fine tuning my lofts and lies only due to injuries and limitations with my shoulders and left hand wrist. I love the game and the advances technology has made towards golf clubs being adjustable for the average ardent golfer like myself an absolute blessing! Very interested in shortening my grip an inch and see how that goes after watching this demo.

The most important thing for distance is hitting the center of the clubface. Shorter works better because you can control the strike consistently . If you could control the strike better with a longer shaft, it would fly longer.

Andy, I for some unknown reason found this informational video very interesting. Thank you for making my old gray matter start lighting up again with more questions 🤯😳

Interesting results Andy. Food for thought. Thanks.

Another great subject, I cut down my f7 driver and use f8 1 length irons,I also cut down the 8 iron down to wedge to produce a more consistent performing set,I love thr 4 iron hybrid,shorter shafts are the answer.

Been thinking of getting shorter shaft Andy...you have def made my mind up now great video cheers

This is the exact video I needed although would've been nice to see what the stiff done. That driver is something else and with the shaft selections available I think it will be the best seller this year. I use a 45 inch driver so the 1 inch shorter is perfect for me.

Definitely something to look at when I go for a fitting maybe the shorter length would suit me, as always a great video

Keep up the good work! Love your videos! All this commotion about the Autoflex shaft; would be interesting to see results for a 43, 43.5, 44, and 44.5" A or L flex clone shaft. I made one using Prolaunch blue senior flex (down 2 flexes) 45 (44g) cut to 44.5" Epic Max LS, heavier 20g slider weight to get s/w back to D3. Let me tell you I am in love with the driver again, gained 20 yds carry with incredibly tight dispersion on the course.

This just proves what I saw in a Wishon video from like 5 years ago. Your swing speed isn't high enough for the shaft flex rating to play as big a part as it might for others. Also watched an old Doc Griffin fitting video and part of his fitting process was testing different shaft lengths on the driver. His customer had the same results as you saw here. Very good info and more proof why a proper fitting is so important 👌

Excellent info!!! What an eye opener!! Thanks for sharing! 🙏

Really good and interesting test! These are the tests we average players need. Keep doing these shaft tests as this one!💪🏻

I have the 50g 6.0 Speed and finding the lightweight feeling a little strange coming from a 75 gram X flex. Your numbers with the one inch short are encouraging as I am having high spin numbers and feeling like looking for year another shaft. Thanks

Great videos as always, minimal fluff and good information.

After a LOT of trial and error I keep going back to the KuroKage TiNi 60 gram R for drivers. I've tried it in many heads and it's a great fit for me so far. I only swing 90-95, but hit 9º drivers because I tend to hit the ball high. Lighter/whippier shafts and lighter heads don't work for me with the woods, even though on paper it looks like they "should." (They do work in the irons, though!) The KuroKage produces a nice medium flight. It feels on the firmer side of regular to me, which works just fine. Now I need to get that speed up a tad and work on delivering less loft at impact, too, probably.

I went 1” shorter on my speedzone driver and it really helped with dispersion, distance didn’t really increase but was much more consistent

You hear so many people say that a shorter shaft results in less ball speed and thereby less distance but if strike improves as a result, the speed of the club face more than makes up for it. That is as long as strike is your issue.

Andy, since I switched from playing my drivers at 45.5" and longer to playing no driver longer than 44.75" in length. I have improved the numbers of fairways hit quite dramatically. I am also hitting some really long drives whenever I make good contact, which is significantly more often with the shorter driver length. I just hope that my golf game doesn't suffer too badly after spending close to two months in the hospital, plus another six weeks on IV medication at home thanks to a very nasty bone and blood infection which also cost me about 27 pounds of weight loss. Hopefully, I will be back on the golf course by late April to early May.

I’ve been using a 3 wood length shaft in my drive for years now, it really makes finding the fairway off the tee really easy plus I only loose 5 yards distance over all from using a regular driver shaft with is around 260 yards carry.

Those shafts are some of the most stable on the market! Dispersion has been one of the biggest sale points of those shafts. Have this shaft in my Srixon driver and I've never been more consistent with fairways hit!

When I got fitted for my Ping G400 we went with a 1” shorter shaft and my results we similar....more distance and much better dispersion.

I’ve been for the the LS one inch shorter. It hasn’t arrived yet though. I can’t remember the shaft. I just remember the fitter saying my swing speed sat in around between a standard and stiff flex.

Been sporting a -1 inch shaft for 2 years. Will never go back. Much more control

Hey Andy, love your stuff. Was wondering though, in your video, did you add weight to your driver head to accommodate the swing weight change when you went shorter? (I ask bc im about to do this too)

Andy, liked the video but had a question. What was the swing weight difference between the standard length 50g shaft and the 1” shorter 50g shaft?

I swing my driver at similar speeds to you. I use a 40 gram regular shaft. I carry 220 meters! It is how you load the shaft when you swing. I found this shaft by accident after swinging a standard 60 gram stiff. I tried an Epic with a 40 gram senior shaft and bombed it pass all the other shafts. Then after a while I have just changed to a air speeder 40 gram regular to keep the dispersion tighter.

"No skippin' to the end either." LOL. Hilarious.

Out of interest, what was the playing length of the driver with the 1 inch shorter shaft? 44.5? I play my current driver at 45, half inch shorter than standard but find I strike more toe side very often, very rare from the heel. Tempted to try a 44.5 to see if it helps bring strike more central.

great vid Andy..do you think the 1" (45 vs 46?) shorter shaft made it a tad stiffer which my better match your swing speed? i play the ping 400 max w Tour Reg at 45", best driver ever

Andy great video, I’ve gone to a 44.5” shaft and it has been a positive change. Is that a Penfold Golf glove you’re using? I’ve just tried their heart balls and am impressed, have you tried them?

The swing weight on the shorter shaft probably changed by 3 or 4 swing weight points. I would like to see how the short shaft performs if you add weight to the head keep the same swing weight.

So it would be nice to know what the difference in swing weight was for each combination. I have found that lower swing weight can improve club head speed.

Food for thought and I'd agree about getting fit for shafts....1 inch shorter = 6 swingweights lighter which is a significant reduction, it would have been interesting to see your numbers with all 3 shafts 1 inch shorter, it's made me think about reshafting my driver and going down from S to R and a tad lighter as I have the same swingspeed.

I have used a Reg three wood shaft in my R15 with not much if any loss in distance to the stiff driver shaft. I think I get a more consistent strike with it

I play a 46" driver only because I hit it constantly in the center and tried shorter shafts but don't hit it in the middle as often. I would like to see smash factor also on your chart

Good video. I would appreciate it if you would mention the name of the brand of hybrid and iron that you are testing/ comparing several times during the presentation. Hard to locate the club name when going back…

Come on mate, no man wants to admit his shaft is an inch shorter than everyone else's! 🙈

Brilliant informative test mate thanks

Enjoyed this video about shaft differences. I purchased a "no name" driver on line some years ago and had it made to my specs but made it to maxim legal length (I hope). Still using it today and hit it every bit as far and streight as the new drivers (name brands) that I have tried recently. I think we all get caught up in the advertising hype of the Big 4 and discard clubs for the wrong reasons.

With my regular Epic driver I had the shaft shortened from the standard 45.25" to 44.5" and I saw no real loss of distance but a big improvement in control. Since then I have definitely improved my swing (sadly still a long way to go) and could probably go back to the longer shaft but we change when it feels so comfortable. The weight of the shaft is interesting. I play a 62g cut down slightly so probably a 60g shaft in regular with a swing speed at the time (I am working on increasing in speed) of 95-96 mph. The idea of playing a lighter shaft simply wasn't presented as an option when I got my Epic driver some 4 years ago.

Curious as to what the swing weight is of each of the builds you tested. Would have to believe the shorter shaft swing weight if not reweighed would drop about 6 swing weights.

great video with the shorter shaft will you lose loss of loft if so how much loft do you have to adjust ( if my club is 10.5 loft TS1 i want to go down to 44.5 or 44.75 shaft what adjustments do i need to make for the loft thanks

Very interesting Andy .. what was the length of the shorter shaft ?

Interesting results. Great info!

I’d like to hear about the difference in kick points of shafts in conjunction with the different flex’s, how does this affect distance and accuracy.

Callaway has a "LD" lineup out for all its driver heads with a 47 inch shaft. Thinking about trying with BB 21 head. Know the swing weight will increase from D2 to D5. They offer lighter individual weights to screw into the head as well as a 40 g Project x cypher shaft. Your thoughts? Maybe do another video on their "LD" line?

I went for lessons and was advised to try softer flex shafts, the results were so visible everybody was commenting on the results and performance

I put in a Recoil 46g senior/light shaft in my driver that is 1 inch shorter (45 inch). What a difference....I am hitting it at least 15 yds further and hitting nearly every fairway. I think I have found the magic formula.

Those carry yardages are impressive. My head speed runs 105-107 and top out at maybe 250 carry.

Really interesting v-log, is there any mileage in buying an older model driver, sat M5/6 and experimenting with shorter shafts to bespoke your own club? Careful about your answer as local fitter (James @Foregolf) will love you for this!

I truly love your Channel mate.

I used to use a 60g x-flex, 43.5” but dispersion was all over. I changed to a 70g, s-flex, 43.5”. 105-108 club speed. Impressive that you can generate 146-147 ball speed with a 96 swing. At 108 I’m only seeing 152. Could that be down to the driver head, or is it my swing?

I experimented with old shafts in the past and discovered that cutting an inch from the top or half inch from the bottom, as well the grip weight, changed the characteristics of the shaft. Some worked , some didn't. Thank god they were old shafts. I like your hat. That hat must cost more than the driver. Lol

V interesting would have been nice to see a 1" longer shaft... I went into 1" longer in my g400max and my new driver just b4 lockdown both give greater distance with no real dispersion concerns.. we can all smash it left and right with any club 😃

Andy I'd like to see you do the same test with the Epic Max SL. That's My Golf Spy's most wanted driver. But I went with a light shaft and 1" shorter last year with a mavrik standard.

Great video Andy,I put full trust in my club fitter,and shafts turn out to b spot on👍🏌️⛳

Hi Andy. How exactly do you measure shaft length?

Back in the day I bought a Taylormade Superspeed 2.0.......light and longer shaft to create inertia. at only 5'8" height, I quickly learnt longer wasn't faster for me....

Never been consistent enough with a driver to be confident in having a fitting, but over the years I've bought a few ladies drivers and the lighter, shorter shafts have felt better for me. Interesting video as always, keep them coming 👍

Good experiment! Do you have any data on whether a one inch shorter shaft is "better" than just choking up an inch on normal length shaft?

Great video. Surprise on the numbers. I'll have to check it out!👍🏌⛳😀

I’m going to try the shorter shaft out 😎

Interestingly, I’ve been struggling with the Rogue sub zero driver. A couple of weeks ago as an experiment, I got an old driver out of the cupboard, TaylorMade Burner with a fujikura 50g stiff shaft. I cut 2 inches off the shaft! I love it, I love the light feeling, I love the confidence the shorter club length gives me but most of all I love the fact that it goes straight almost every time I hit it. Oh, and it doesn’t appear to have lost any distance. I’m now temped to cut 2 inches off the Rogue 🥴

Not surprised at the results Andy. I started gripping down on every club in my bag last year and noticed an instant improvement in strike and consistency with no loss of distance at all.

I know you have done a review on the Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal irons....Could you do a redo of these and switch shafts....Use the Nippon NS Pro 950 GH vs their UST 95 Recoil shafts...in either reg or stiff....to see what the stats say on them....which performs better...Thanks.....

Great video as always. How tall are you?

I started with a shorter shaft 6R, now playing stock length Ventus Black 5x. Best decision ever. Longest, straightest and most consistent I've ever been. Swing speed 95-105.

Interestingly, the shorter shaft produced 20% less spin than the 50g Reg and 26% less spin than the light flex shaft with similar dispersion.

Great video!! next week i am getting a driver fitting. Currently playing gbb epic subzero 9 deg with Rouge max 65 stiff shaft. my miss is a push fade and my driver speed is 94 mph. Looking at epic max or speed to test. my questions will be 9 or 10.5 deg head and 50 gram stiff or reg shaft. I will also ask my fitter about shorter shaft after seeing your video. Cheers from British Columbia Canada

Sporting a 44.75 inch shaft and hitting it longer than ever.

Middling it more often by using a shorter shaft probably more benefit to average golfers than (possible) ball speed gain from the longer shafts fitted as standard by most manufacturers these days. Good video Andy!

I went from a 45” club to a 44” and it didn’t make any noticeable difference for me. My shafts are 65 gram, regular flex and my driver clubhead speed is the same as yours. Im more curious about benefits of going to a 50 gram shaft vs my 65 and will it increase my clubhead speed? I can’t take a whippy shaft either.

That crazy results the biggest for me was the light shaft which u think bout bein a senior shaft did just as good if not better we have basically same swing speed and i use 50 gram stiff riptide in my mavrik driver and 60 gram stiff in 3 wood max same riptide shaft really makes me wonder

Try a senior shaft! Reg and 1” shorter. I’m guessing you might get some shaft wip that could drive the ball further than you are now

Could you please test the short Callaway B21 fairway woods? Up to 7wood.

Always wondered if the light shaft would give me longer drives.

always surprises me when I chock down but hit it further, makes sense

i have been using a three wood shaft in my driver for a couple of years, and it works.

Another great video Andy 👍🏌️‍♀️⛳️

Great video really informative 👍

About a year ago I switched from a 60g stiff flex to a 50g regular flex and was surprised that feel wise I didn't really notice a difference but my swing speed increased by a couple mph which translates into more yardage and I have a lot more control which leads to a lot more fairways hit. It was like getting an entirely new driver.

What shaft do they put you in when you get fitted?

Bit late to the party but do you think that a 50gram , 1inch shorter but stiff instead of reg would give you more distance ?