Picking Through Storms, ODD or EVEN Altitudes? ATC Can’t Decide! 

I'm new to aviation but I have not yet heard anyone from ATC talk as much as that lady. She's super comfortable on that radio. ;)

As a JAX Approach controller, I think I can shed a little light on the Even/Odd thing. As you know, the FARs state: 14 CFR 91.179 - IFR cruising altitude or flight level. (a)In controlled airspace. Each person operating an aircraft under IFR in level cruising flight in controlled airspace shall maintain the altitude or flight level assigned that aircraft by ATC. So, there is no right or wrong altitude (IFR) for direction as you see for VFR Flights. ATC establishes agreements between ATC Facilities called LOAs, (Letters of Agreements) that define how aircraft are handled. This includes Even/Odd use along certain routes. In Florida the flow of traffic is primarily North/South so if your route takes you up/down the East Coast, you will go Northbound ODD and Southbound Even. Most aircraft following the East Coast make a turn at Jacksonville, Jacksonville is the Western most city on the East Coast. If your route takes you up/down the center of the state, you will go Northbound Even and Southbound Odd. Your flight seemed to dance along that line, at first you were cleared up the center of the state establishing the Even altitude, then deviated more East for WX setting into play the Odd altitude, around Orlando you turned more Northwest and back to and Even altitude. Between ORL/TPA and JAX we go Northbound Even/Southbound Odd. Between ORL/DAB and JAX we go Northbound Odd/Southbound Even.

Awesome video! No pulling over and waiting for the storm to pass up there. Thanks Baron Pilot!

What's up Kris, glad you made it home safely I tried to chime in on the live stream but couldn't make a connection I guess you were too high it was a pleasure and an honor to meet you this year at Oshkosh looking forward to next year thanks for the hat and the shirt. Harold shouting out to you from the great state of Missouri.

You invest a lot for your viewers, thank you !

If I may make a suggestion... When calling for taxi, all that is required is “ Ground, (call sign), location, “taxi” and ATIS”. Adding “to the active” and “ IFR departure “ are superfluous. Ground knows you are IFR because they see your strip and the runway they assign you should match the “Active” on the ATIS. I always teach that succinct and accurate (phraseology) radio work pay dividends when you find yourself in very busy airspace.

Have you ever considered getting a single yoke. Almost everyone I talk to who flies older barons or bonanzas prefer them. It looks like it would give you better access to things on the right side of the panel, make more room for passenger, and make it easier to slide in and out of the plane.

Great flight around weather. I was trying to predict your decision making on navigation. Loved the end BaronPilot.Com Very pro!😀👍

great flight bud awesome i cant wait for the new toys for your plane good luck happy flying and fair skies my friend

Very cool. It's kinda fun to see a little of each airport too, thanks for that ending.

As an instrument pilot in the Atlanta area (working on my commercial presently), I enjoy watching how others negotiate around weather cells. And definitely enjoy watching your videos Baron Pilot. Great content!

Enjoyed the video as usual! Beautiful view of the Dames Point Bridge from 24:04 until the turn to right base. Keep up the great work!

Great video! Thanks for bringing us along.

one really great feature you do in your videos is you highlight the taxiway on the airport chart that ATC is calling out. I dont remember any other channel or video doing that. Very unique and educational to see the route to runway.

Awesome. Just you know it wouldn’t of mattered, still be watching every video.

Thanks for this video! I was so excited to see your flight plan today at work. The video was the cherry on top!

Observation......It just amazes me of what a calming effect an ATC's lady's voice has over a man's. Also, a lady's voice is clearer, more distinct and the ladies add little more flight information. Your new Ghost 4K is top notch.....can't wait for more BP adventures.

Maybe I missed it, but what ever happened to Lucy ? Thanks Brian F. AKA GUSMIX22 on hear.

Long time viewer. Congrats on upgrading thats going to be new and fun! I love your attitude about flying and life. People pick up on that stuff man. Keep doing what you do and safe flying sir!

We have that kind of sky here from November to April

I think I recall either thru the course of my training and studies or thru yours or Steveos videos that Florida present a slight challenge in the conventional ODD/EVEN altitudes due to the shape of the state? Then again I may have dreamed it up as well! Enjoying the videos from up here in NC! (KHBI)

Great video again BP! Always enjoy listening and watching your videos. Thanks for sharing!

That 550 is going to look awesome in the plane! As soon as I can I'm getting my IFR ticket. It's been years since I've flown IFR with my dad and it really is such a great way to fly.

Wow, what a frustrating flight... Handled like a champ! Thanks for posting :)

Thank you again. That weather seems to be so crazy in Fl during the summer. Be safe and hope to meet you one day.

Awesome job flying thru that thunderstorm. I was nervous just watching the video lol....

Baron Pilot, thank you for making these excellent videos! I'm learning alot from them and enjoy each one. I'm not a pilot yet but I do fly a Cessna 340 on my flight sim and I've done some of the same flights you did. Looking forward to your next video!

Solid flight; enjoyed the IFR work. It gives me a chance to compare it to my situations. Blue Skies!

New attendence record at EAA this year, sorry i missed you up there

Lots of gismos nowadays. I fly IFR in the UK using Foerflight to file as its brilliant and skydemon as it puts the instrument plates right up on your ipad. Thinking of uploading a video myself on you tube, would be fun.

Awesome video BP, nice new toys too, I like them, although, personally I'm pretty jealous of that on board radar, don't ever give that up. Paul

Another great video. Thanks for sharing. Look forward to meeting you Tuesday. OSH bound!!!

I have seen some eye watering panel setups on the BeechTalk site for Barons so be careful when you leave Osh with a few new ideas.

great video as always. Bet you are glad that Lucy wasn't aboard for that flight, she would have been nervous!

Oh I love that AFIS chart on the iPad.

Hello pilot Baron, very smooth ride enjoy ur ride

Great vid - was interesting for me to see how you dodge moderate/severe precipitation, since I've never had that experience. Looks like you've got some great gear there! Your vids are only going to get better - didn't think that was possible. :)

the cloud canyons were so pretty. only "downside" is the high level of ambient sound. not easy to hear you or radio com. thanks for the flight.

Well at least they are willing to work with you with your headings.

This is so great I just found your channel! We are going for our private pilots license really soon. Right now we are living on our boat and sailing around the world! Any tips for a wanna be pilot??

Very nice, looking forward to seeing you at OSH.

Thanks BP

Great video but where has the Lovely Miss Lucy been? Inquiring minds want to know!!!!

Hi great seeing your videos , is luckys going to be back in the air with you soon ?

Nice flight through the storms, well done. Thanks for sharing it. What surprised me most in this vid…..how do you handwrite the digit 2 ??? Looks more like a secret symbol ;-).Is this the way you learned to handwrite it in school? ;-)

Well done!

Interesting video. Thank you.

60 gallons a side? Wow that’s a lot!

Looks like you had a good time, and the landing was great. Always 'fun' to fly in the thunderbumpers and build ups. I'm not sure I like that new camera, it doesn't seem to have the contrast and color saturation that the GoPros do. I really wish I could meet all you guys in Osh, it would be amazing. Finally, where are you going to put that IFD550, and still have room for everything else? Even if you have room below where the radar is sitting now, it's going to be really hard to see it. It'll look great, though!

Very cool video Barron Pilot...! Loved the dodging weather! What have you done with Lucy....? Haven't seen her in the plane in a while now. Have a great weekend..... !

Nice flight.

Lucy would have been a nervous wreck on this flight.

When are we gonna see Josh take the controls of the Baron

Another great flight VLOG. Any PIREP in the LS Tango?? Thanks for taking us along.

Jeeze - altitude changes galore, dodging weather, and then vectors around a restricted area! Just another day in aviation. 🤣 I'll be at KOSH from Saturday through all of next week, hope to run into you and Josh there!

Thanks again for the video! Love everything you do. Just my take, but wouldn’t mind a “wing view” from time to time. Those are just my thing 😉. Question...Do you actively fly through AIRMET Tangos? Also, are fair-weather-day thermal bumps included when considering an AIRMET tango issuance? I am aware that some days you get “bumped” and there aren’t any warnings out, and vice versa. Anyway, have a good time at OSH. Glad to see you on the “North” side of town. If you feel like deviating on the way home, feel free to file to KPTK. The food and beer over this way is great, my treat. Take care.

We miss Lucy...water bottle and backpack? that's it?

I see on the center console, P for pitch, T for throttle and M for mixture. Simple enough. What is that little TV screen on the lower right? Radar? Oops. Spoke too soon. Yep it's radar.

The indecisive controllers and their "cray-cray" altitude assignments answer simplified. Controllers have flow corridors that have been agreed to by adjoining sectors of ATC facilities to make your flow more efficient in documents called Letters of Agreement (LOA). They can be different across the country or just two facilities away. To address your initial altitude question flights below 100 going over the ROGAN intersection will be assigned an even altitude which conflicts with a pilot and controllers training and mindset. The same can be seen with flights leaving APF to EWY below 100 will be assigned an ODD altitude which in our minds should be even. These strange altitudes are all for the simplification of flow and allows for slower traffic to remain below faster traffic. It causes the controller to have to think about it as well before assigning. Your altitude should have been initially assigned as 2000 expect 8000 10 minutes after departure, and the departure controller assigned the correct altitude to comply with the LOA between RSW and MIA. Centers have much more airspace and can allow for many more variations such as DIRECT when able. I hope this will help explain why some altitude assignments seem strange and may cause our Spiderman senses to be heightened.

The one thing I noticed with your new headset, and this might of been the same with the old ones too, its harder to hear you and the ATC as they pick up the airplane engine really well, or not so well I guess. I'ts very loud. Now please don't get offended by me saying this. I just wanted you to know what I'm hearing.

What apps were you using? The ATIS info capture seemed very cool and efficient.

I wouldve loved to be there,but a job gets in the way.On a good note,will be taking PPL Knowledge test Tuesday,July 24 at 2:30pm.

Flip a altitude coin 😂 Oh yeah “Nice Typical FL WX” Have a great time at KOSH. Maybe next year for me, but for sure c ya at Sun n Fun 2019 Thanks for the video

Should clean up some of those low frequencies from the plane on the video lol basically unwatchable with how much bass is coming out of my speakers haha

Just think, if you were flying around Montana it's been clear flying weather for the past two or three weeks and nothing but clear skies in the forecast. Be nice to have another set of eyes in the sky watching for fires in the forests before they've grown impossible to stop. I need a little airplane.

Looks a lot like the storms we were tracking on 7/18.

Based on FAA regulations, don't you need at least two attitude indicator to fly IFR?. I asked that, because here in Brazil it's like this.

you forgot the ".net" in the link to your website in the description.

Great video. What is the app you use for scratchpads?

Awesome flight. I like the "real time but not really because it's video" insight into NOT flying into weather. And you even experienced "the gap" (gap between clouds for a pilot flying VFR pilot, wx for a pilot flying IFR). Nicely done! The Airtex unit looks to be very handy. Safe travels...

Did you crop in the shot from the Drift camera? It looks like you did however maybe it's just a different frame rate that's throwing me. I do like that angle.

Always love your videos but I couldn't understand most of what was being said for the engine noise. I ended up just muting the sound and finished watching the great flight.

Thanks for another great video. What is the program that you used to identify the KNIP Naval air station? Just curious. Safe flying my friend.

Hey brother when are u going to pick me up at KORL

whats happend with Lucy?

Rideum cowboy!! Lol

cannot hear you all the noise

Your AP yaw control looks like it’s hunting for heading. A few of the shots show things shifting side to side out the cockpit window. Is this typical?

Is it ok to fly and text?

Engine noise is overwhelming comms.

Hi my friend , can the baron fly higher than 10000 feet?

please apply some audio filters.. it's very annoying ear engine rumbling

Hard to hear ATC radio.

ATC audio level is so weak.

A little static in the audio all the way thru the video otherwise another good one

At 27:09 you have a drunk bird who has a death wish. MUM right seat please,.pretty please with sugar on top.And no, im not drunk.

They better sell that text app to men only. The ladies love to text too much. I can see them texting little Susie's first words on an IFR approach! LOL.

All you pilots could fly better ifns you weren’t so darn distracted talking on them fancy ear telephones