PICO 4 vs QUEST 2 - Which one Should I GET? 

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Ah- that is good to know about the IPD goes lower than 62.

Thanks for letting me know! i have added this in the live FAQ

@@laubox you said that doing that squished your nose, right?

@@joel3399 yeah! But never dared to go that low as at 62 it already crushed my nose...

Thanks MrBeckham666

Pico 4 has 2 displays,Quest2-1😆

Also. I own a quest 2. And there’s a very big nose gap.

yeah some straps make it much better!

I temporary use VR Cover fabric strap on my because it can relieve some pressure from face and friend made power bank holder so it acts good counter weight for now, haven't change facial interface yet but i'm waiting one from aliexpress XD

$20!?

Hi nox! I did mention that you can use virtual deskop for both headsets in the video! But good you are pointing it out again! Thanks for the comment. much appreciated.

@@laubox I see, I must have missed that. Sorry for that.

streaming assisant when set up properly can have the same quality as vd

Anyone knows If I can pirate games at Pico Neo?

@@gs-nq6mw if it wasn't possible I wouldn't get it. It's the reason I got a PC a year ago

​@@accountdua9375 but Pico 4 is owned by tiktok which imo is worse

​@@accountdua9375 I'll still get the Pico 4 because I don't really care about the company, I care more about the product.

If you're into fitness and getting healthy, it's easy

Did you end up getting it? Curious about the same thing!

thank for the comment hok, i appreciate that! Thank you for letting us know, i did not know this.

Or get one of the third party straps that doesnt have a built in battery, and just use a smartphone charger put in your pocket. Much cheaper

@@blastofo Also an option, but I would say that since the battery is removeable, on the fly even, I'd recommend the bobovr set over a phone powerbank any day as it gives more comfortable counterweight, which the other thing wouldn't Also, a decent powerbank would cost around half of the bobovr strap with the battery included. So not even worth it

I love bobo headstrap it good

That's nice 👍! I think I'll get the pico 4 because I just want a good one from the start, I want to play Skyrim haha

@@LlednarHugh Meanwhile we are over a year further since my last remark. I bought the Pico4 over a year ago, but in November also the Quest3 to replace my aging Quest2. I must say, after a few upgrades the Quest3 is my favourite gaming headset for stand alone gaming, but the Pico4 is mainly for watching movies and PCVR. All in all the Quest3 is a very good deal, but the Pico4 for PCVR is still great, depending on your PC of course. I had to upgrade and use an i5 with RTX3080. Still not the highest resolution, which can be handled with the Pico4, but overal great.

@@SjaakSchulteis nice 👍, I really appreciate the insights. Helps me in making better decisions. I was browsing earlier to compare the prices between the pico 4 and quest 2, turns out the pico 4 is cheaper, and I like cheap and good stuff, haha.

thanks vik, much appreciated!

Brah everyone have your data. Even Goggle map know exactly where do u live.

@@bunnyfreakz .. every website you visit knows where you live, because every website needs your public IP to even send you content.. I don't get what you're tryina say here xD Every big corporation wants your data, and it's your call whenever you want to allow them to sell your data or not. Less corporations collecting your personal information is better than all corporations collecting it.

​@@FlooferLand In nutshell, just pick your poison. Really.

pico 4 got da pancake lenses, really worth it imo

Thanks Ofek, much appreciated. You can play all SteamVR games on Pico 4

You haven't missed anything on Quest 2 as well (good choice not buying it) since I bought it and it's not that good : My comment copy pasted here - "Don't know about Pico 4 but I do know for sure that Quest 2 is crap and overhyped for no legit reason since I bought it once (like a year+ ago) and it was bad, the 3D effect of Quest 2 was meh, the colors of the screen were off a bit (LCD) and the FOV was really limiting (even Quest 1 has better FOV than it), the controllers also weren't as comfortable compared to Quest 1's controllers which are perfect, hence why I sold my Quest 2 and went back to my old Quest 1."

Quest 3 is coming later next year. Maybe wait for it before you decide ;)

@@onlinepersonalitydisorder1051 it's still gonna be front heavy because the design is still the same from all 3 leaks and the most likely one.

@@21EC I got the Quest 2, it is my first experience with vr, and I'm sending it back, it is god awful, extremely uncomfortable, the picture is blury everywhere except the small spot in the middle, edges of panels are jagged, it's like playing a pc game at 640x480 resolution, but that's probably all you get in that tiny area of focus in the middle of the lens, The fov is also not that good. I don't understand why they though it would be a good idea to have all that weight at the front, sitting on a small spot on your forehead and cheekbones, it is madness. The pico 4 seems very tempting, properly balanced out of the box, pancake lenses for clarity, higher resolution too. the only thing I'm not really sure about is the color reproduction of the display, many reviewers said it is somewhat wahsed out, not as good as quest 2, and even the quest 2 has pretty bad colors in my opinion :/

@@Tremor244 Finally someone that can tell how bad or good a VR headset is..and yeah as I said Quest 2 is not good by any means (except for it's high resolution image), keep in mind that both of them share the same image sharpness, Pico 4 is said to be a bit more sharp but honestly I don't feel it but the image sharpness of Pico 4 is good overall, it depends on the content as well, some 180 SBS videos are incredibly sharp on their high resolution and it looks so real and some of these are not as good and are showing more of the SDE which is very tiny at worst case but still visible, Pico 4 does suffer sometimes from production defects and such, maybe now it was mostly fixed but mine was recieved with a wave like effect that is visible sometimes whenever I move/rotate my head around but sometimes it is not visible at all and then if the content is great then it's an overall good VR experience, some of these 180 SBS vids looked so damn good and realistic and amazing as an experience that I got shocked at how awesome it was, the colors of the Pico 4 are better in my own eyes than those of Quest 2, it almost looks like OLED with a tad less brightness but you don't have any weird blue tint or any tint, the colors look natural and good, actually the colors of Quest 2 as far as I recall were not looking that nice, it felt like it was lacking contrast and it was kind of dull in comparison and looked like it had white/gray layer with opacity on top or something, the 3D effect is also really good in Pico 4 better than Quest 2, question is whether all Pico 4 are 100% the same or not..I don't know, but I do know that in my own Pico 4 the colors are looking good and better, the FOV is also better but especially if you replace the official face pad with one like the GeekVR one (which I have which makes it more comfortable and gives a bit more FOV).

I am also interested in info on PCVR connections pros and cons of the PICO 4. how degraded if any is the image qualities on PICO 4 connections compared to Direct Port connections of the Quest 2?

@@dathyr1 this is what I would like to know to before making a purchase

Both use usb c to stream the picture to the headset, the pico 3 had a direct displayport link but not the 4:(

@Bingus I have watched "multiple videos" but still was not sure. Not understanding something and asking for help is not laziness?? Human assumptions and judgment is astounding

Can you test side quest on the pico 4??? Please do

Q1. do the controllers have analog output on both the grip and triggers? Q2. are there capacitive sensors on the trigger, joysticks, grip, and buttons for finger presence detection? (extremely important for gesture control on social vr games like vrchat)

Does Pico 4 playing pc games with Type-c cable? (without WI-FI)

Only steam

Snap

He seemed to suggest he was connecting with it in the video, but if so, its preset options of smooth, SD and HD are garbage. Unless the pancake lenses susbtantially alter the amount of barrel distortion versus fresnal (which is possible I just haven't heard it) you need to run this headset at 3100 x 3100 per eye for it to look good. The Quest 2 needs to be run at 5408 x 2736, in which case it looks excellent, people running headsets at their panel resolution are not seeing what it actually looks like. Run the Quest 2 at its panel resolution and it's trash. If the Pico USB-C connection can't run at its proper full render resolution then it's completely pointless for high end VR.

@@kevinbrook7033 well explained, ty

That is what i am also interested in. How does streaming (USB) look like compared to Direct Port (DP)? I have only done DP with my Oculus Rift S.

You can't because it's broken right now ( software), crashing or something like that) but it should be supported later.

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hi Thomas, thank you very much for your comment. I appreciate that! The flight sim app is Aerofly FS4, great in VR!

it is possible!

Don't know about Pico 4 but I do know for sure that Quest 2 is crap and overhyped for no legit reason since I bought it once (like a year+ ago) and it was bad, the 3D effect of Quest 2 was meh, the colors of the screen were off a bit (LCD) and the FOV was really limiting (even Quest 1 has better FOV than it), the controllers also weren't as comfortable compared to Quest 1's controllers which are perfect, hence why I sold my Quest 2 and went back to my old Quest 1.

@@21EC thank you 👍 so helpful so so helpful 😑

@@nickname_donkey4456 Thanks, BTW I have the Pico 4 now..and I can tell it's screen colors are better and also look like OLED to me compared to the dull colors of Quest 2 and the FOV of Pico 4 without its official face pad is as big as Quest 1's FOV without its face pad (but the Pico 4 even has a bit more vertical FOV than it), but there is an issue of aliasing with texts/lines with Pico 4 and some people complain about production quality issues (it's not guaranteed to be perfect with each unit) and Pico 4 has a bit of wave like distortion effect (for me at least) but most of the time it is not noticeable, overall still the Pico 4 is better than Quest 2 so this time around I had a reason to stick to Pico 4 instead of ending up selling it like I did with Quest 2.

I have not had as much problems with that as other reviewer have i hope they improve this with a new face cover!.

@@laubox the face cover is magnetic, so obviously designed with replacement in mind for different faces.

You can still play beat saber via pcvr ;)

Thanks for your detailed comment I appreciate it. If I was you , go for the quest 3!

Thank you@@laubox

why is pico 3 better for pcvr?

@@hausu3163 Oh right. Pico 3 link specifically. The uncompressed video is really a lot better, even if it has lower resolution.

Yes theres tutorials online

Depends on the cable

Keep with the 128GB! You wont need storage to play PCVR games only :)

@@laubox thanks

Right, a big downside 😮

You probably can, and you don't have to wait for virtual desktop for it. You can just use an oculus link or 3rd party link cable to connect the pico 4 to your PC to use PCVR. USB 3.0 to USB-C cables work aswell.

@@kartoitska8944 Ye thought so

Yes, you can. And there's not even a cable required. It has an in-built wireless streaming app that allows you to play SteamVR games wirelessly over wifi and it will work even better if you get Virtual Desktop.

@Rev the pico is a standalone, meaning that when used for PCVR it will be less good compared to how it functions standalone or compared to a PCVR only headset. You can't even use a Displayport cable with the pico neo 4. If you want a displayport one, you can always go for the pico neo 3 or any other purely PCVR headset.

the pico works just fine with glasses, also the quest pro isnt for gaming

"pro" is a bit miss leading its a "enterprise" headset. If you have access to the Pico 4 I say get that... if not because you live in the US - you would be better off waiting for the Quest 3.

@@adr2t I can't see much 'enterprise' about the Quest Pro. I think they had a clear goal but had to make too many compromises. I'm pretty sure Meta wanted something close to Augmented Reality which appeals much more to business. I don't think business cares much about facial expressions so all they've really got is slightly higher picture quality with pancake lenses to make it a bit lighter.

@@Spedley_2142 Its about as "enterprise" as it gets ... it work with windows's login in system... Cost almost 4 times more than current headsets. Focus on business use case. Na, the compromises are self created not a trade off. For example, we know they have access to larger flat lenses (Pico uses them) and we also know that they know they didnt need Face and Eye tracking. Thats all designs choices witch is something they control. Or how about the fact they didnt focus the headset towards PCVR that would have the power and data cable they remove and then focus the idea of this headset to be used in this matter and is now limited to 2hrs or doesnt support link (it uses link, but in a compress matter) / raw data in and out put such as using USB-C to DP. While I under these are limites of the XR - they are not limits of the PC that they could've focus on releasing different modes for. I can go on of course:) As for AR - they kind of failed at it just a tinny bit... if that was their main goal.. they miss out on the deapth sensor it was to come with... I understand things dont always time well - but I would've assume you delay it if for a feature if its a core one. Just strange choices in my opinion. Also the idea of using the word "enterprise" helps clear its for business use and not "pro" where pro tends to mean something at a higher spec. Similar to saying "Super", "TI", "End high", etc. ITs a bit miss leading and thats why you have people talking like Quest "pro" was their headset... when reality if they call it Quest "Enterprise" I feel would've tooken any thunder someone would've in understanding what the headset was for.

w8 for quest 3

that would work. but it's not DP so it's better to just use wireless tbh

@@Framed7 USB-C has plenty of bandwidth, at 10 gb/s (gen 2v2 has 20 gb/s). Unfortunately the XR2 chip (at least on the Quest 2) can only handle about 450 mb/s. That's still three times more bandwidth than the 150 mb/s connection on Pico wireless, so the USB-C connection should be much better. On the Quest 2 USB-C on a proper gen 2 port is much better than wireless, and compression artifacts aren't visible on a high end card like a 3090. Wireless always looks bad imo.

@Bingus it's underclocked, it's not 'severely' underclocked. Stop being hyperbolic, you're bad at it.

Oh and for fitness, is there a boxing game like thrill of the fight in Pico?

hello! I bought a Pico 4 to replace my G2 Reverb and they are very similar in terms of visual clarity. the fov / sweet spot is way better on the Pico 4, and compression is not extremely noticeable for me. I have a good wifi 6 router with a 5ghz connection, and play right next to it. I have my PC connected directly to it. It's honestly amazing how little I notice compression. Overall, I'd recommend if you have the money.

@@whoogh ok so I'm new to this..how do I connect the WiFi 6 router to pc and link pico 4 to that..?..

@@whoogh great, thanks! :)

@@glenner171717 check virtual desktop, there are plenty of instructions online

Wifi with steam isnt good enough?

@@madsoncaminha2517 My problem is game time (battery life) or does it not matter if the cable is plugged in? If i wanted to connect the pico 4 to pc via usb-c does it still drain the battery? And does it on the Quest 2?

Quest 2 doesn't have display either

maybe sell your quest 2 for a good price and than get the pico 4?

@@laubox bought it for 350 and bought the kiwi headstrap for 50. 400 in total so I'm thinking around 300 euros. Granted, i did use it very intensively but have always kept it clean. Nearly no use marks on it. No scratches. I have it sinds february 2022. Sinds it's gone up in price I was thinking of asking 350 for it, but it might be too much. Looked at what others are selling it for and some are almost just giving it awayfor free. Like 225 with elite strap, very competetive prices (that was the cheapest one though, others are around 300). What are your thoughts?

Thanks for the correction you are right ! It is motorized not automatoc, wish it was :)

Yeah, I can't wait till the motor breaks.

@@JohnSmith-mk8hz Why should it break 😂 It's a completely normal motor, which you only moves at a maximum of once a year as a normal user, so what can possibly go wrong with it?

@@laubox gotta drop $2000 for Varjo Aero if you want that feature.

@@cyantox Nothing but also the reason they didn't need to motorize it. A manual dial would have been sufficient while saving another few grams of weight and production costs. Most likely Pico didn't want to have two IPD hardware designs as Pico 4 Pro will have eye and face tracking which also allows for automatic IPD adjustment.

Does that include sales tax?

Ow you MUST get Aerofly FS 4. You will love it! Very much optimized for VR.

@@laubox Thanks for the fast reply, I will look into getting it because it looks great for vr!