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PIECES OF GASTER vol. 2 | All Gaster Secrets Theories Evidence Explained in Undertale + Deltarune 

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The life and history of Doctor W. D. Gaster is one of the most intriguing parts of Toby Fox's games Deltarune and Undertale! In both games, there are deeply buried references and secrets that have given us many pieces of this puzzle. We do not have the full picture yet. But I hope that by putting everything in one video like this, it will get the gears turning for people to craft their own awesome Gaster theories!
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Here's hoping this can be the one-stop resource for anyone who wants Gaster Explained thoroughly. From the Gaster Leitmotif to all other Gaster facts and evidence, this video took a LOT of work to put together. Much more than I expected! Digging up every scrap of Gaster findings, secrets, easter eggs and all that that people have been finding for years was a big undertaking. I hope it lives up to the precedent I set with the old Gaster Egg videos!
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@2leftthumbs
@2leftthumbs 3 года назад
I can't believe I managed to add 28 minutes to this video in 24 hours ahead of the Chapter 2 release! SUCK IT TOBY!! Don't forget to give Dead Estate a wishlist !! ► store.steampowered.com/app/1484720/Dead_Estate/
@GraemeGames
@GraemeGames 3 года назад
Tune into my Chapter 2 livestream in just under 4 hours!! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-U9mEdCn3Dio.html
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 3 года назад
I love it. It's great. You are awesome.
@whyiwakeup6460
@whyiwakeup6460 3 года назад
Cool
@YouMayKnowMeAsNate
@YouMayKnowMeAsNate 3 года назад
What he’s going to suck is millions of dollars of sales of chapter 2 because everyone wants to play it
@xXSuperUltraZeroXx
@xXSuperUltraZeroXx 3 года назад
fractured Universe number = Fun
@Ketsui.
@Ketsui. 3 года назад
A hooded figure watching watching the commotion around Shyren from afar doesn't happen in a Genocide run ONLY. It will also happen if you just kill Papyrus, so that pretty much confirms that the hooded figure is Sans.
@jimjo9697
@jimjo9697 3 года назад
Or, it could be someone else that has a connection to Papyrus. Gaster being the most obvious other than Sans. Or possibly someone else...
@haileyredrix4753
@haileyredrix4753 3 года назад
plus sans is selling tickets
@Ketsui.
@Ketsui. 3 года назад
@@haileyredrix4753 He WOULD be if you hadn't killed Papyrus, that's exactly my point for it being Sans lol
@haileyredrix4753
@haileyredrix4753 3 года назад
@@Ketsui. ohhhh shit sorry I misunderstood lol
@johndwolynetz6495
@johndwolynetz6495 2 года назад
Holly fuck sans
@mysticat
@mysticat 3 года назад
wait, this wingdings egg thing is actually kinda huge lol
@thetwizard9290
@thetwizard9290 2 года назад
Well that’s a RU-vidr I didn’t expect to see here
@Gustf2
@Gustf2 2 года назад
Well that's a RU-vidr
@HiCringe
@HiCringe 2 года назад
Well there is a youtuber behind the comments
@pezvonpez
@pezvonpez 2 года назад
Well that was not a RU-vidr
@bfrxcrpgfhanzux
@bfrxcrpgfhanzux 2 года назад
there was not a RU-vid here
@supremechaosbeing2696
@supremechaosbeing2696 3 года назад
"toby's fault for making words so meaningful" Proceed
@ConvenientlyShapedUsername
@ConvenientlyShapedUsername 3 года назад
POTASSIUM
@ChillChrill
@ChillChrill 3 года назад
Kris get the banana
@chobowobo3967
@chobowobo3967 3 года назад
@@zlandauer johnny get the banana
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement 3 года назад
The Roaring
@TheSkyGuy77
@TheSkyGuy77 2 года назад
P r o c e e d
@thepopo592
@thepopo592 3 года назад
im calling it now, the "darkshards" that the secret bosses give you are LITERALLY gaster. literally shattered across time and space its up to kris to put him back together and finally resurrect the REAL gaster, think about it the shards aren't even tangible, only shadows, as if they dont exist on our plane as we can comprehend it just it like a certain comeone. calling it now.
@lexdotpng
@lexdotpng 3 года назад
do you think the Glowshards will in any way be conected to that?
@theredphoenix5545
@theredphoenix5545 3 года назад
dang thats pretty smart!
@thepopo592
@thepopo592 3 года назад
@@lexdotpng possibly, I thought about it but I don't have any solid evidence to anything
@armintargaryen9216
@armintargaryen9216 3 года назад
Do you mean the Shadow Crystals or am I missing something??
@thepopo592
@thepopo592 3 года назад
@@armintargaryen9216 I did mean shadow crystals my bad
@johndodge1230
@johndodge1230 3 года назад
Well, Deltarune chapter2 is great just wanted to say , Spamaton and his boss battle starts a interesting trend, Jevil has the red heart (determination) now Spamaton has Yellow (justice) and every action you do pacifies him by 7 (the total number of soul types) and honestly I think this is worth looking into
@kevinm5940
@kevinm5940 3 года назад
It wouldn't surprise me if all the secret bosses are people who made deals with the Knight
@wimberlen
@wimberlen 3 года назад
7 is also the number of chapters
@penelopehardass276
@penelopehardass276 3 года назад
I think you’re onto something!
@sunnysideduck
@sunnysideduck 3 года назад
Yes
@leedlelel2373
@leedlelel2373 3 года назад
@@kevinm5940 the knight and the mysterious person who corrupt spamton and jevil are not the same, as 1. Seam knows who the knight is but refers to the one who corrupted jevil differently 2. (SPOILERS) kris turns out to be the knight in the ending of chapter 2, i doubt theyd make people insane prior to creating their fountain 3. The knight doesnt directly connect to gaster like the mysterious man, as seam says his vision is slowly getting "darker yet darker" when talking about him, a line said by gaster in entry 17. there are also npcs near spamtons shop that tell his backstory, the final one says that the guy on the phone who spamton got corrupted by sounded nothing but garbage noise, if you call in the dark world with your cell the narrator says it sounds like garbage noise, and the sound is mus_smile from undertale, used in entry 17
@TheIanWigle2
@TheIanWigle2 3 года назад
25:10 "Unless gaster divided in 7 pieces" Deltarune according to the chapter screen has 7 chapters. Each chapter will presumably have a secret boss. Chapter 1 had Jevil. Chapter 2 had Spamton. Each drop the shadow crystals that you collect and return to the dark world town. Both are very "aware" or hyper aware creatures in their worlds talking about cages and strings.
@mewmewkissycutie1028
@mewmewkissycutie1028 3 года назад
Also there's a collectable egg from each chapter. First one you can put in asgores fridge and second in basket in sans shop. Probably gonna be more eggs and can give them to main characters from Undertale
@theatomicbob9067
@theatomicbob9067 3 года назад
Spamton is hidden?
@theatomicbob9067
@theatomicbob9067 3 года назад
I didn’t get a shadow crystal from him
@TheIanWigle2
@TheIanWigle2 3 года назад
@@mewmewkissycutie1028 my only issue with connecting the eggs is the process of getting them, specifically chapter 2 where the second one is behind another easter egg of toby in killer ride insta-killing you and seeing a undertale game over. While I do suspect the man behind the tree is a curiosity, it’s very vague.
@TheIanWigle2
@TheIanWigle2 3 года назад
@@theatomicbob9067 depends. If you go the genocide/massacre route he isn’t. But otherwise if you’re going pacifist then he is.
@TheBlackSquirrel
@TheBlackSquirrel 3 года назад
40:14 Swedish person swooping in here! The swedish word for "Guests" would be spelled "Gäster" with an ä and a soft G. The word sounds a lot like the english word "Jester", actually. HOWEVER, what my swedish brain finds more interesting is that "Gast" in swedish literally means *Ghost* ... 👀 Sometimes specifically a kind of ghost that died a violent death and usually are unrecognizable from when they were alive.
@supermariobrosbros6152
@supermariobrosbros6152 3 года назад
You just made me realize, the minecraft devs are Swedish and gast means ghosts. Ghasts in the nether are ghosts
@footh1013
@footh1013 3 года назад
Yoo that's so cool!
@GippyHappy
@GippyHappy 3 года назад
Yeah I always wondered why more people don't mention ghasts when talking abt gaster.
@thevioletskull8158
@thevioletskull8158 3 года назад
@@supermariobrosbros6152 ohhh
@yahirdoesbadvids
@yahirdoesbadvids 3 года назад
@@supermariobrosbros6152 holy shit
@WrathMilten
@WrathMilten 3 года назад
Gaster, about to shatter himself across the timelines: ayo the pizza here
@cocainer621
@cocainer621 3 года назад
*Falls in to the core* MY HANDS BURN
@libby_lue
@libby_lue 2 года назад
Oyasumi
@skugo9542
@skugo9542 2 года назад
OH- ASGORE-
@DomiAnimations
@DomiAnimations 3 года назад
Knowing Deltarune was coming eventually, just seeing chapter 2 be announced out of nowhere still surprised me Edit: *”it fills you with determination”*
@gamedifficulty_4230
@gamedifficulty_4230 3 года назад
When I started reading this, I completely expected it to end in “it fills you with determination” Edit: “The power of editing your comments shines within you”
@mariotheundying
@mariotheundying 3 года назад
The power of someone expecting it to end with "it fills you with determination" shines within you
@upsidedown-pug1974
@upsidedown-pug1974 3 года назад
It fills you with immediate nostalgia
@beezmanit2683
@beezmanit2683 3 года назад
@Jayceon Williams enough youtube for today
@abra_escaped
@abra_escaped 3 года назад
Both Jevil and Spamton are mentioned to have met "someone" and acting differently after, with Jevil being aware of the world being a game and Spamton suddenly becoming very successful. Spamton's story also mentions him suddenly losing his success, with his phone being left on a call that was making nothing but "garbage noise," which we know is the entry 17 noise thanks to Kris' phone also making the same sound in the dark worlds. Both bosses also had a shadow crystal with them, which some have speculated will be made into a key to open the shelter in town, leading to something major involving Gaster. They are also both voiced by Toby unlike other characters whose voices are sampled from other places, in case that matters -Edit: ALSO both The World Revolving and BIG SHOT both use a leitmotif from the song -*-don't forget,-*- specifically the part that says "don't forget, I'm with you in the dark"-
@alliesangalli1757
@alliesangalli1757 2 года назад
There's definitely something to that connection. Very excited to see if this trend of someone changing the secret bosses holds true for the rest of the chapters when they come out. One small correction tho: the note about the Don't Forget leitmotif in BIG SHOT isn't true. While the Don't Forget leitmotif is used in THE WORLD REVOLVING, it isn't used at all in BIG SHOT. BIG SHOT does use the THE WORLD REVOLVING leitmotif, tho, which appears to be what will connect the themes of the secret bosses going forward.
@pallic703
@pallic703 Год назад
I'm referring to the edit part, but several songs have that leitmotif, so it might not mean anything. You can search up "all songs in deltarune that have I'm with you in the dark" and find videos with it. There are many songs, both in the dark world and in the town "overworld" type area
@KyrieFortune
@KyrieFortune Год назад
More than "Don't forget" (that leitmotif appears in half the soundtrack, without exaggerating), both "The World Revolving" and "BIG SHOT" feature the so called "freedom" leitmotif which is modeled on Gaster's theme
@Mernom
@Mernom 9 месяцев назад
A hole in the theory: I don't think Spamton is the true hidden boss of chapter 2. Thw Neo body is. Spamton simply stole that role when he got you to load him into it. A possible counter argument is that he left his dark shard (or possibly the Neo body itself) in the castle himself, before he was kicked out.
@Insanonaga
@Insanonaga 3 года назад
28:50 We’ve established that Sans may be teleporting between dimensions here with his room being a glowy door similar to that of the deltarune teleporters. Who’s to say the the man didn’t go out to eat while in deltarune’s world, grab a kid’s menu, and cut out the crossword from it to use as his contribution to papyrus’s puzzles?
@egg_mittens
@egg_mittens 2 года назад
Tha- I don- Wait s- hu- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@egg_mittens
@egg_mittens 2 года назад
Okay but this actually brings up an important point in how we should think about all this from now on. _Undertale does not necessarily come first_ It's extremely evident that undertale an deltarune and gaster were all thought up at the same time, and just because undertale came out first we (mistakenly) tend to think of it as chronologically first.
@frogitude3106
@frogitude3106 2 года назад
@@egg_mittens i can’t tell if you are implying that the two games are chronologically connected or not, because if they were wouldn’t that cause issues with the plot, like asriel going to college before dying as a child? Or are you talking about them being their own separate universes, just that Undertale might happen after DeltaRune?
@Pascll
@Pascll 3 года назад
now that chapter 2 is out, there's another thing that's easy to connect: dark world entrances appear to all be square, double doors. the door to the computer lab was even resprited to be a double door. what's a door we know about that's a square, double door? the bunker that plays the gaster speech sound effect. I suppose it's not really new evidence of gaster's existence, but it does mean that we'll definitely be exploring a dark world based on that bunker in the future. based on the importance of the number 6 with gaster, I'm gonna guess that we'll explore the bunker and hopefully learn about gaster in chapter 6, which is also the second to last chapter, allowing for the last one to build off knowledge of gaster that we'll potentially learn in chapter 6. also, since you were wondering about ice-E, ice-E's p'E'zza is also a square double door, which means we might get an ice-E dark world.
@nolasmor
@nolasmor 3 года назад
How many double doors are there?
@bcwtslbk7943
@bcwtslbk7943 3 года назад
I think the bunker being chapter 6 is a great idea and quite probable. We won't know in the next update though, since it's only 3-5. I think the church might be the very last chapter, since its the only other building (with the exception of papyrus's house) that's totally inaccessible still. Plus, a bunch of Father Alvin's dialogue refers to The Angel, never just an angel, in the same way the legend does, implying the church has a deeper connection to the catastrophe from the prophecy.
@nolasmor
@nolasmor 3 года назад
@@bcwtslbk7943 i can't imagine a dark world based on a church... Mostly because idk what kind of religion they practice. I can expect to see some enemies like candles or the stained glass pictures... And maybe the boss is "God" or "Devil"
@Pascll
@Pascll 3 года назад
@@nolasmor for the double doors that have a similar square shape, there's three more from what I could find (including the bunker): the bunker, one in asgore's back room, and the entrance to ice-e's p"e"zza. however, it's worth noting that we haven't been to noelle's house, and we haven't seen the inside of the church or the mayor's office, so it's possible there'll be more doors there. out of these, a door in noelle's house seems the most likely since she's so important. it's also possible there's only four more doors, meaning only one hidden door (which would be noelle's), with the last chapter possibly having a different type of entrance or playing out in a different way, due to it being the last. there's no evidence to this last point, it's just a possibility I thought of. otherwise, the last hidden door is likely in the church. noelle's house would already feature backstory on the mayor, probably.
@Pascll
@Pascll 3 года назад
@@bcwtslbk7943 it's possible, though the door of the church is a different shape, so if there's something in the church, it'll be inside. it's also possible the final chapter will have a different type of dark world or play out differently (since it's the last chapter, it needs to be all climactic and stuff). there's no proof of this, just something that seems possible. it's also worth noting that we haven't seen noelle's house, only the gate, so there's possibly a door to a dark world there (considering how important noelle is, and since a large house like hers is likely to have a big double door) *edit: next part is kindoff wrong because I kindoff forgot about the ending of chapter 2* so, I think the dark world order will be: 3: ice-e dark world (since toby tweeted he wants the next chapter to be even sillier than chapter 2, and it seems other possible dark worlds would be more plot important, so they'd come later). would have catti and jockington possibly becoming more important. I know they don't work there, but they're new characters with character potraits, so they've gotta become important at some point, and all other potential dark world places are already tied to other characters. plus, we got the chance to talk to catti and learn more about her in chapter 2. ice-e's dark world would be ice and food themed. 4: either noelle's house or asgore's back room. both seem important so I can't decide which would come first. asgore's back room would be plant themed with possibly backstory between his and toriel's divorce, maybe something with asriel. we haven't seen noelle's home so we can't know what a dark world based on it would look like, but we can be sure there'll be some backstory with her parents, and there'd be some major stuff for the genocide route too. 5: same as 4 6: the bunker, probably all about gaster. we don't know what the inside of the bunker is like, but we can guess it might be science themed and probably really creepy. 7: maybe a different type of dark world? different type of chapter? something in the church?
@CaliCosmicGal
@CaliCosmicGal 3 года назад
The best part of Gaster to me is the possibility *exists* that the character the whole fandom think is Gaster might not be Gaster. True that possibility is slim but still. I love that it exists
@kirbywithaknifeisawesome6028
@kirbywithaknifeisawesome6028 3 года назад
Mystery man will still be a mystery
@halcyonrein
@halcyonrein 3 года назад
@@kirbywithaknifeisawesome6028 yup.
@Profileunused
@Profileunused 3 года назад
Redacted has a better chance of being Wingdings than Mystery Man tbh
@NRobbi42
@NRobbi42 3 года назад
Ironically, there's more evidence that [Redacted] is Gaster than "mystery man"
@viduuu07
@viduuu07 3 года назад
@@NRobbi42 Who is "[Redacted]"? I have seen it so many times in this comment section??
@lightsen
@lightsen 3 года назад
I enjoyed volume 1 so much I rewatched and forced my friend to watch with me, and now having finished vol2 I was not expecting a little cameo to my video at 8:35 that was a funny surprise to both of us! Anyway, thank you for writing all of this together in a way that is very clear without all the 'wooo spoopy' effects I hate in theory vids. Honestly one of the best, and recommending to all my undertale/deltarune loving friends, great job!
@table9747
@table9747 3 года назад
eyy your alive
@thevioletskull8158
@thevioletskull8158 3 года назад
Cool
@averagechannelname9969
@averagechannelname9969 2 года назад
Honestly yeah I never realized that the tone was something I enjoyed in these vids but it's super appealing and nice to listen to
@RTDelete
@RTDelete 3 года назад
Okay so: In Deltarune Chapter 1, we enter the Darkworld through the closest, in Chapter 2, we enter through the Library back door HOWEVER The Library doors were changed from single to double doors for Chapter 2 Now where else do we see Double Doors? School Library Asgore's The Hospital Bunker Church And we're on Chapter 2 out of 7 This is not a coincidence
@SoicAngellis
@SoicAngellis 3 года назад
Bunker is probably gonna be the very last one, facing the 'Knight'
@pikminpro2001
@pikminpro2001 3 года назад
finaly! somebody noticed
@pikminpro2001
@pikminpro2001 3 года назад
@@SoicAngellis has nobody finished deltarune chapter 2 or what its revealed that SPOILER ALERT gaster is NOT the knight because the knight is ... KRIS! thats right at the end of chapter 2 its revealed that kris is the knight he makes the dark world its what he did when he ripped out his soul.. also it makes sense cus in the dark world he is a KNIGHT
@SoicAngellis
@SoicAngellis 3 года назад
@@pikminpro2001 It isn’t explicitly stated that the Knight is Kris; otherwise several NPCs would’ve recognized them. It is entirely possible that we aren’t the only things controlling Kris. Edit: Not only that, but we learn from Ralsei and Queen that many people can make Fountains, not just the Knight. I think Kris would better be described as a Pawn, when in that zombified state.
@pikminpro2001
@pikminpro2001 3 года назад
@@SoicAngellis oh yeah makes sense didnt think about that.
@QuestionableObject
@QuestionableObject 3 года назад
There's a problem with the "text voice" thing with Alphys with the lab Gaster connection. Alphys flips back and forth between using all lower case and proper capitalization. So she can do both.
@ninjireal
@ninjireal 2 года назад
@Kaitlin Grace Longid Aquino But that begs the question, was Alphys EVER confident enough to say the stuff she does in the first few entries?
@rudrodeepchatterjee
@rudrodeepchatterjee Год назад
@@ninjireal why wouldn't she? We know that the amalgamate accident prompted her secluded attitude, because she blamed herself for the incident, and wanted to ward off the blame from others. Prior to the incident, she was just like any other scientist, noting down observations to hopefully recreate the experiment, should it show signs of success.
@A.R.C.1997
@A.R.C.1997 3 года назад
gaster : "your world is a game" berdly : "really? besides my existential dread and mental breakdown, that's pretty cool!"
@AshArtzMusic
@AshArtzMusic 3 года назад
Connection to memory head, “you hear voices through the receiver” and in the spamton neo fight in the genocide route he says “you can keep screaming into the receiver”
@maroonknight5252
@maroonknight5252 3 года назад
At 14:00, I am pretty sure that is actually supposed to be Papyrus' handwriting. Flowey had him write it and then put it in the trash can to push Alphys to confront the True Lab so his plan in the Pacifist route to stall you long enough for Toriel to show up would work. It is shown that Flowey manipulates us to go their after his failed Photoshop battle because if you spare him he give hints to get a better ending, all of which lead to the Alphys date and the True Lab. We also know Flowey uses Papyrus as a puppet for his plan when he has him call everyone to come to the palace. In fact, the reason that Undyne only calls you about the letter in the Pacifist route is probably because Flowey got Papyrus to convince her to ask Alphys out after the save was reloaded. Anyways, long story short, that note is probably from Papyrus, not Gaster. Sorry. Great video though and thank you so much for mentioning me and my theory.
@midknighto
@midknighto 3 года назад
The memory head saying "Pain teaches" reminds me a lot of Noelle in the Snowgrave route for whatever reason, the ring of thorns hurting her, and her saying that she was "Getting stronger" I don't know if this is relevant, I just wanted to mention
@SeanTxty
@SeanTxty 2 года назад
It's hard to say for certain if the "pain teaches" thing is accurate. "Dolor" is the word for pain in Lorem Ipsum Dolor. "Lorem ipsum" does not actually mean anything. "Dolorem ipsum docet" would mean "pain itself teaches" or something like that. It could just mean "lorem ipsum" teaches... as lorem ipsum is common placeholder for typesetting, maybe it's a hint that the use of fonts and type styles is somehow instructive - which might be a stretch but it could make sense given that the use of fonts and quirks like use of capitalization in important to characters in general and specifically in the lab where the authors of the entries are in question.
@midknighto
@midknighto 2 года назад
@@SeanTxty Ahh, I see. Thank you for the clarification
@KiwiTrek
@KiwiTrek 3 года назад
This may seem like a stretch; but Kris may be an anagram of Frisk, but missing the F, which is the 6th letter of the alphabet. May not have any connection at all with the entire mystery, but a fun fact to point out nonetheless.
@matthewhender1834
@matthewhender1834 2 года назад
Maybe that F stands for the same F in the FUN values?
@Josake.
@Josake. 2 года назад
Kris is also an anagram of “risk”
@kx7500
@kx7500 Год назад
@@Josake. why do people keep saying this, it's meaningless
@rudrodeepchatterjee
@rudrodeepchatterjee Год назад
@@kx7500 nothing is meaningless when it comes down to Toby Fox. Who knows, just like Undertale-->Deltarune, Dreemur-->murderer, Asriel-->Ralsie, etc, nothing can be ruled out.
@kx7500
@kx7500 Год назад
@@rudrodeepchatterjee that doesn’t mean that every theory is correct.. every letter used in the dialogue for the games is also used in the bible, is that perhaps a reference?!
@ataino
@ataino 3 года назад
I honestly thought that the Twitter text and the Deltarune ch1 intro "Character" were quite clearly Gaster, from the way of typing (all caps, short sentences), to the clam girl gaster follower (who was added to the Switch only a short while before Deltarune demo was released and told us about how the time of meeting their neighbour, "Suzy", was "fast approaching"), and whatever else. What sealed the deal for me was the song names: The only thing we have 100% confirmed to be related to Gaster is, well, what is called "Gaster's theme" in the game, however in the files, it is called "mus_st_him.ogg", mus_st meaning sound test, leaving the song to be called, "him". And, well, the song used in the intro for Deltarune is called "ANOTHER HIM". I usually put some distance between myself and theories because they will most likely be wrong, or based off of other theories (i.e assuming that "Suzy" is Susie, while seemingly obvious, could always mean something completely different in the mind of the creator), this one is directly revealed to be related to Gaster by the 2 names of the song.
@wimberlen
@wimberlen 3 года назад
I do think it’s Gaster and I also think it’s POSSIBLE that Gaster is responsible for Kris’s strange actions in the snowgrave route, as Noelle’s description of Kris’s voice during the route is “strange and terrifying” which would line up with what we’ve heard of Gaster so far. Gaster is probably assisting us in directing Kris as our vessel, and probably is the knight creating fountains to set up some grand plan or something of the likes.
@wimberlen
@wimberlen 3 года назад
To be clear, I don’t believe Gaster is in control of EVERYTHING. I believe Gaster has some level of control that allows him to tilt the odds in his favour. Think of him like lord English from homestuck (which Toby also worked on). He was manipulating the story from the beginning but didn’t directly control it, and only showed himself when the time was right.
@ataino
@ataino 3 года назад
@@wimberlen I personally do like to think that the player, too, is an entity, and so if the game. I don't like the chara narrator theory for that- it would make more sense for the narrator to be simply the game, like the world machine from oneshot but not really a character, like in an RPG, it's the game entity showing the player such information. It doesn't make sense to me that a child would know the inns and outs and details of every monster, let alone the exact stats and their changed mid battle Where was I going with this? Oh yeah, I thought that the scary voice was the player, commanding Kris and Noelle, because of how she can "still hear them" (what she thought was Kris) when we (the player entity) tell her to do certain things, during the berdley battle, which she later seems to understand isn't Kris' and calls it terrifying. -inb4 Gaster entity and player entity end up being the same so we're both correct- Just as a little side note reinforcement to my whole player entity thing, flowey clearly is knowledgeable of the game machine, and is clearly talking to the player about how "winning" this "game" will make us "not want to play"
@wimberlen
@wimberlen 3 года назад
​@@ataino i agree to an extent. it is my belief that the player does not play as big of a role as they did in undertale (choices dont matter, remember?), and gaster is acting as a sort of antagonistic middle man between kris and the player. i believe (with the exception of snowgrave) gaster is performing actions through kris during the endings of each chapter. my reasoning for this is that speech that the intro man gives at the beginning of the game (who i believe to be gaster). a lot of people say this is debunked because the players choices DO matter in the snowgrave route, but like i said i think that gaster is again controlling kris to get something out of noelle that seems to be very important, something that the queen also wants. what this is, is not yet entirely clear, but its very obvious that noelle plays possibly the biggest overall role of any main character so far for reasons that are not clear to us at this time. i really dont think it'd make a lot of sense for toby to go the same "player is directly influencing the game" route he did with undertale, because we've basically torn apart undertale and learned all that there is to know about that formula. giving us an unexpected twist of fate by disregarding the same plot conventions he used previously would honestly be a power move, and i really think that's where toby is going with this.
@SeanTxty
@SeanTxty 2 года назад
@@ataino Game "machine" is an interesting word choice. The "machine is broken" and they couldn't fix it / it isn't meant to be fixed. A lot of things pointing to the inherent limitations of videogame narratives, which is a sort of trite way to "say something meaningful" in videogame narratives.
@kingstickers4227
@kingstickers4227 3 года назад
New head canon: if Gaster is the Knight, when he introduced himself, he said “I am the night,” but the rulers of the dark world mistakenly interpreted this as “I am the Knight.” EDIT: If you’re about to comment “Nah, Kris is the Knight, I assure you that I’ve heard it already.
@DoritosAndMountainDew
@DoritosAndMountainDew 3 года назад
Gaster: I'm Batman!
@kingstickers4227
@kingstickers4227 3 года назад
@@DoritosAndMountainDew you get it.
@toumabyakuya
@toumabyakuya 3 года назад
@@kingstickers4227 So what you are saying is that Gaster is Batman from Arkham Knight?.
@CaptainCoolzCT-
@CaptainCoolzCT- 3 года назад
Jevil didn’t realise that he met Gaster. He got so terrified thinking that Gaster was Batman, that he went crazy and locked HIMSELF in a cell.
@pikminpro2001
@pikminpro2001 3 года назад
though gaster is NOT the knight so revealed at the end of chapter 2 SPOILERS the knight is kris he created a dark world at the end of chapter 2 also it makes sense cus in the dark world he is a KNIGHT
@greenberrygk
@greenberrygk 3 года назад
I kinda want to see how Toby would react if someone during an interview with him just strait up asked him about Gaster
@jimjo9697
@jimjo9697 3 года назад
My biggest theory is that the Dark world connects the two games, Sans being an example. We know of no Ice-E's PEZZA in Undertale yet there is one in Deltarune, taken by Sans through the Dark world. More evidence to support this is that you can enter the Dark world through both games: One as seen in Deltarune and another described by Seam. He describes how the lightners stopped visiting at one point and never came back, and knowing that the history to the Dark world extends around a hundred years because of Jevil's pacifist dialogue and the fact that the monsters were sealed underground a long time ago, the two timelines from the two games seem to match up.
@flowstate00
@flowstate00 3 года назад
One fun coincidence is that when you go into Sans' room, it's dark and it stretches out longer than it probably could, just like the closet in Deltarune chapter one. Both rooms become regular places once someone turns on the lights
@goblintwo
@goblintwo 3 года назад
Oh, you mean like the background of the Jevil fight? (Two planes connected by a central point)
@jimjo9697
@jimjo9697 3 года назад
@@goblintwo What I'm thinking is that the two worlds revolve around the dark world. But how Undertale and the dark world become connected, I have no clue. We now know how the connections are made between Deltarune and the dark world due to the ending of Chapter 2.
@jimjo9697
@jimjo9697 3 года назад
Not really too related to my original theory, but the Darkners seem to have a knowledge of inventories that Lightners do not. Ralsei knows because he many times mentions press [C] to open your menu, and we know that Lancer and Rouxls knew before because of Chapter 2. And when these things get brought up in front of Susie, she is confused. Even more support to the theory that Sans is a Darkner because of his knowledge of your LV, EXP, etc. during his judgement.
@Paradox1012
@Paradox1012 3 года назад
@@jimjo9697 if kris does have a piece of faster within him, or if the vessel is a "follower" you have created mabye gaster is the only one who can manipulate the dark world. After all the end of chapter 2 could strongly imply that.
@HeenaScribbles
@HeenaScribbles 3 года назад
14:02 I always thought that the letter in the trash was from Flowey which he put there while Alphys' was on the date, which one last thing to push Alphys over the edge in order for her to go to the true lab and so he can do his plan. The handwriting is shaky because he's doesn't have hands, so he can't grip a pen properly, and he writes in full caps as it is generally easier. That being said I don't think I remember checking the trash can at any other time except from after Alphys' date with Undyne in the dump, so it could have always been there. I doubt it ties to Gaster though
@AAAJOEY
@AAAJOEY 3 года назад
The easter egg in Deltarune that splits into two after you've closed the fridge door and opened it again may also be a reference to the theory of Schrodinger's Cat and parallel universes. DELTARUNE seems like one big experiment. In Undertale's genocide run, Sans explains that he's been monitoring the timeline and other parallel timelines. He also provides the Ice-E puzzle in Snowdin, so the "Nightmare Version" might be a test of his to understand which universe, or which FUN value, he's currently in.
@rudrodeepchatterjee
@rudrodeepchatterjee Год назад
I feel compelled to like this post, but do I really want to send that counter up to 67? Do I really have the determination to do so?
@KyrieFortune
@KyrieFortune Год назад
... wait a minute... Schroedinger's cat... timelines affecting each other... ice... 666 being 999 read upside down.... Mystery Man having a second face when you turn him upside down and now looks like he's wearing a white lab coat, like a scientist... ... I am reading too much into this, aren't I? But maybe Toby isn't limiting himself to Earthbound for references.
@G-DORA
@G-DORA 3 года назад
Something I noticed, at the end of Undertale after genocide, and after waiting 10 minutes, an unknown figure offers to TAKE something it wants from you and the prompt appears with no context as to what it is. Only when you accept does it tell you that it wants your soul. Same thing with man behind the tree in Deltarune, except he offers to GIVE you something without context of what it is. Only when you accept it, it is revealed what it is.
@emaaaaax
@emaaaaax 3 года назад
Considering the Gaster is the one that "takes care" of both worlds it could be him, you know, giving you another chance
@Zilicon
@Zilicon 3 года назад
This is a cool interpretation of that. The fandom just assumed that was Chara talking, but this could also be the case.
@SeanTxty
@SeanTxty 2 года назад
@@Zilicon Gaster is all caps - so it couldn't be Gaster... In the "soulless" playthroughs it's clear that Chara has control over the player character and given that the gameplay still involves having a SOUL, it would make most sense that Chara is the one who is in possession of the SOUL
@Zilicon
@Zilicon 2 года назад
@@SeanTxty Yeah. I’m pretty sure it *is* Chara. I’m just saying it’s a cool way of interpreting it.
@literallyalois2966
@literallyalois2966 3 года назад
Funny how Entry 17 says "Shadows cutting deeper", and you need to cut reality with your weapon to create the dark world.
@Gurren961
@Gurren961 3 года назад
"Unless we find out Gaster was divided into seven pieces" Both Jevil and Spamton had a shadow crystal that can be stitched back together if you get them all There are 7 chapters 7 secret bosses 7 Shadow Crystals
@sjl057
@sjl057 3 года назад
Note that the sprites labeled as goners have much more distinct changes to them. Goner Kid has empty eyes and different "hair" and the Clam has an eye replacing its head. The followers seem to have minor changes, like the bird-like one having slightly modified legs instead of being connected to the ground, the faceless one having no face, and the basic looking one appearing to be just more melancholic.
@ramon6783
@ramon6783 3 года назад
Memory Head also looks like a skull with a dislocated jaw, one active left eye, and a shattered right eye looking at the bottom right. Like a realistic Gaster face
@TakeV
@TakeV 3 года назад
My own personal theory is this: where did Alphys get the initial determination from? We know that determination allows one to be anchored to reality. What happens when someone loses all of their determination? Do they get permanently unbound from reality? I do not think he fell into the core. I think he fell into the determination extraction machine. They never said WHICH machine he fell into.
@armintargaryen9216
@armintargaryen9216 3 года назад
Didn't she get it from the Souls that Asgore took from humans? I know none of them had determination as their core trait but as humans they may have had certain amount of DT (less than Flowey). I can't say exactly if this was supported by in-game evidence though
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement 3 года назад
I mean we know Alphys got the determination from the human souls, likely tossing them into the extractor.
@TakeV
@TakeV 3 года назад
Nothing ever stated that she got it from the humans.
@leedlelel2373
@leedlelel2373 2 года назад
@@TakeV "ive done it. Using the blueprints, ive extracted it from the human souls" Yeah uh dude how long has it been since you played the game
@TakeV
@TakeV 2 года назад
@@leedlelel2373 Oh snap, too long it seems. Good catch!
@kakashilover9231
@kakashilover9231 3 года назад
Can't wait to watch the stream if deltarune 2 I didn't think I'd see the announcement of a new Undertale game after I joined this community this summer. God I'm so happy
@shadowdent2077
@shadowdent2077 3 года назад
You joined at the perfect time! Hope you’ve been enjoying the games they are super important to me, haha. Have fun!
@flowstate00
@flowstate00 3 года назад
Entry 17 could be Gaster creating a dark world portal, too. Remember how the closet from chapter one is pitch black and stretches out very far, the darkness "cutting deeper"?
@wuwubean
@wuwubean 3 года назад
5:36 I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY! I've always said that I thought Gaster was Sans and Papyrus's brother because of this line, but I could not for the life of me remember where I heard it from. Since almost no one ever mentioned it I thought I must have dreamed it up or something, but no! It was real all along! You have just solved a mystery that has been annoying me for YEARS, thank you so much.
@GDNashit
@GDNashit 3 года назад
Very cool, now... WAKE UP
@Neganerd
@Neganerd 2 года назад
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@KyrieFortune
@KyrieFortune Год назад
Also worth mentioning, the Steam description of Deltarune says Papyrus is "busy" and can't be in the game, yet Sans asks Kris (or maybe the player?) to hang out with his shut-in brother. Notably, he has not yet said his brother's name in Deltarune... there is a possibility Sans' brother in Deltarune is not Papyrus, and thus he may very well be the Deltarune version of Gaster or even a new character all together (a skeleton named after another font, maybe even a human and they are adoptive brothers...)
@rodaki9408
@rodaki9408 3 года назад
The connection of Frisk, Kris, and Gaster (Gäster) being translated to swedish is somewhat supported by Toby using the word smorgasbord(smörgåsbord) in both games, wich I find to be a kinda odd choice for words, since it's not very commonly used in english
@rodaki9408
@rodaki9408 2 года назад
Also the word "kromer" that spamton uses, sounds a bit like the name of the currency in most nordic countries: "kronor/kroner"
@talb.1805
@talb.1805 Год назад
Isn't bergentruckung Swedish too?
@heyitzmae
@heyitzmae Год назад
do people not say smorgasbord that much? i use it like every other sentence
@SuperFanatic22731
@SuperFanatic22731 8 месяцев назад
​​@@talb.1805Nope. It uses a ü which is not a letter in swedish.
@nugget1631
@nugget1631 3 года назад
Now I’m no Undertale lore expert so I don’t know if this is a viable concept, but what if the creation that gaster fell into was the dark world?
@INTCUWUSIUA
@INTCUWUSIUA 3 года назад
Oh shit I just realised, if we follow the swedish connection of Gaster being a nod to the Swedish word gäster (guests, plural) there's another connection. The way gäster is pronounced in Swedish sounds a lot like the English word Jester. I'll let you make the connections there.
@grab8119
@grab8119 2 года назад
"gaster" also means ghosts in swedish
@aguy5348
@aguy5348 3 года назад
One thing I haven’t seen anyone pick up on or at least mention is that one of the gaster followers is holding a face in his hand and in his dialogue says “I’m holding a piece of him right here” referring to gaster. what if that face is what gasters face actually looked like? or at least part of it? I don’t know much about theorising but this seems like some pretty hard evidence.
@pashung1evil
@pashung1evil 3 года назад
@Jack T but it already looks like a face
@GDNashit
@GDNashit 3 года назад
@@pashung1evil toby compressed that face into a few pixels, impossible to tell
@pashung1evil
@pashung1evil 3 года назад
@@GDNashit its similar to mystery man
@avalancherelapse
@avalancherelapse 3 года назад
that face is the one doing the talking, so i doubt it. its either that line shouldnt be taken literally, or, that follower IS actually gaster (or a piece of him)
@psychopomp4135
@psychopomp4135 3 года назад
Hello again, Graham, great video as always. I do have one major gripe with it, though, that being the notion that Gaster wrote the first few True Lab entries and that Alphys and Sans worked as his assistants. 1.) The fact that the initial entries are in proper case do not disqualify Alphys as the author. While she does usually write in all lowercase, she has demonstrated that she is able to write in proper case when she wants to via the note that she leaves in front of the elevator to the True Lab. Furthermore, Gaster has never been shown to write in proper case. He is almost always shown to speak in all caps (and even if you count REDACTED as a piece of Gaster, he speaks in all lowercase, not proper case). Therefore if we’re determining the author of the entries simply by writing style, Gaster can be dismissed right from the get-go. 2.) Alphys straight up says that SHE is the one who isolated determination. If Gaster were the one who wrote initial entries, then she would have at the very least said that she and someone else isolated determination together. And the notion that Gaster was forgotten and thus Alphys forgot that he was actually the one to discover determination cannot explain this, since it’s made clear by the Gaster Followers that Asgore remembered Gaster’s brilliance and that’s why it took so long to hire a replacement, and the existence of the early entries would make it easy for Alphys to deduce that someone else had made the discovery. So while Gaster did design the blueprints for the DT Extractor, it’s unlikely that he ever got to use it or even build it himself, since he had decided to explore an alternate route to escaping the Underground (the strange machine). 3.) From what we know about Alphys, it’s made pretty clear that she was pretty much a nobody before she built Mettaton and attracted the attention of Asgore. Had she worked with Gaster, she definitely would have used that to try to gain the position of Royal Scientist, yet we don’t hear about her doing any such thing. 4.) Gaster is implied to have been Royal Scientist a long time ago. This can be deduced from what the Gaster Followers say about Gaster, as well as the apparent timeline of his inventions. The CORE and the phone system are indicative of a time of peace in the Underground, when Gaster’s main priority as Royal Scientist was improving everyone’s quality of life. The DT Extractor and the strange machine are indicative of a shift to a time of turmoil and despair, when Asgore was desperate to find a way to escape the Underground. This means that Gaster was Royal Scientist for some time before and some time after war was declared, which we know happened a long time ago (likely at least a few decades before the game took place). Alphys wouldn’t have even been born then, so it’s impossible that she could have been working with Gaster. Sans is also implied to have arrived in the Underground relatively recently (no one says anything about Sans having been around for any lengthy amount of time), which goes against the notion that he worked with Gaster. --------- Also we already know what Fun stands for. Toby revealed it on his Twitter a while ago on his Twitter: “F is for friends who do stuff together, “U is for you and me, “N is for anywhere at any time at all.” While this may appear to be nothing but a lighthearted reference to Spongebob on the surface, there’s likely more to it than that, considering how the line “anywhere and any time at all” matches up with how the Fun values affect both time and space. This is made more noteworthy considering how Toby cut off the last line of the song (“Down here in the deep blue sea”).
@psychopomp4135
@psychopomp4135 3 года назад
@Ik Exactly. It wouldn’t make much sense for her to not be the one who created the Amalgamates.
@Spubbily01
@Spubbily01 3 года назад
I have a pretty straight forward theory: The goners are not gaster followers, the gaster followers are goners. Note the similarities between them, they're all grayscale, they're all visible only through fun values, they're all variants of in universe characters, it just makes more sense for the gaster followers to be goners rather than the goners being gaster followers.
@axeburger
@axeburger 3 года назад
What? Both ways would be the same just worded differently
@Spubbily01
@Spubbily01 3 года назад
@@axeburger Calling them gaster followers implies that they're well... gaster followers, people who talk about gaster. The goners don't talk about gaster yet alone know about them, so there's no point in calling them that.
@Jenb13171
@Jenb13171 3 года назад
Well every one of them is a character in grayscale we have monster kid the guy that became unused in that unused waterfall room the thing from Deltarune the person who bought a doughnut all in grayscale and I don’t know about the clam girl what her name is
@GODofTimewaste2
@GODofTimewaste2 3 года назад
@@Spubbily01 I'm assuming this is referring to something later on in the video that I've not watched yet, but in UT atleast, the goners/Gaster followers definitely do know about Gaster, going as far as to namedrop the fella _multiple times_ . I don't actually even recall any other NPC speaking about Gaster by name.
@hiobio1713
@hiobio1713 3 года назад
so you mean people who followed gaster before but are now gone because they are tied to gaster and since his existence was erased now they are erased too or something
@sammysam-sam4141
@sammysam-sam4141 2 года назад
Well, as a Swedish person, I want to point something out. If you interpret Gaster as being the Swedish word Gäster, then that actually means guests, plural. Just thought you might like to know
@mjdxp5688
@mjdxp5688 3 года назад
Goner Kid and Goner Clam both show up in Waterfall, the same place the Mystery Man is. Could this mean the Mystery Man is actually a goner himself? Since Gaster was shattered, that could have turned him into a goner.
@wimberlen
@wimberlen 3 года назад
I am of the belief mystery man is a goner but not gaster
@grillygrilly
@grillygrilly 3 года назад
I have always asked myself what that ghost like creature was that said "REDACTED" in Wingdings font. What is up with that?
@Tycitron6000
@Tycitron6000 2 года назад
@@grillygrilly yeah people seem to overlook that lol
@flatwoodscryptid
@flatwoodscryptid 3 года назад
I'd also point out that the DT Extractor is... Weird. It feels like it's what the "Using the blueprints, I've extracted it from the human SOULs." line is talking about but...if that's the case, why would you need to consult the blueprints to figure out how to use a machine *you* made? Either your entry list could be wrong and 5 was Alphys, or the DT Extractor predates even Gaster
@SPYROSTSABOURIS
@SPYROSTSABOURIS 3 года назад
To be honest.... I wouldn't be surprised if literally everything in the game was connected to gaster
@LoonyLemonJeff
@LoonyLemonJeff 3 года назад
IS THAT A JOJOS REFERENCE?!
@pimpslime759
@pimpslime759 3 года назад
no
@amber2778
@amber2778 3 года назад
No, why would it? Breathing is not a reference either.
@kaknorii9213
@kaknorii9213 3 года назад
At least some things should be, maybe not everything
@grillygrilly
@grillygrilly 3 года назад
Amber Breathing is a JoJo reference.
@justmerepanda7721
@justmerepanda7721 3 года назад
I'd like to add that during the asriel fight, sans and papyrus are both referred to as "he" while asgore and toriel are referred to as "it".
@jullivan1212
@jullivan1212 3 года назад
Jevil's theme uses Gasters theme. specifically the melody. Jevils theme even spells GASTER in the melody, if you assign scale degrees to the alphabet... (715654) EDIT: Gaster's motif is also in Spamton NEO...
@NickriePlays
@NickriePlays 3 года назад
Whoa Really?!
@kevinm5940
@kevinm5940 3 года назад
That spells 'GAEFED"
@ethanotoroculus1060
@ethanotoroculus1060 3 года назад
13:34 Actually, we do have some leads on who that character is! In the Japanese translation, the speech patterns used in that sequence heavily parallel the dialogue of Chara. We receive the text in the backdrop of a black background, with no text box. In both instances, the speed it scrolls at is slower than the game's default settings- and when it _does_ scroll, there's no audio. Not even the default sound. I think it's safe to say we know who's speaking here.
@theallmightyfish3027
@theallmightyfish3027 3 года назад
Jevil: CHAOS, CHAOS *talks about random nonesense* Spamton: I’m about to make you look sane
@БелянцевНиколай
@БелянцевНиколай 3 года назад
"Don't forget" is also what some charecters in Mother 3, same series as Earthbound (Mother 2) tell you in the Darkness after Dark Dragon awakened, "The End?" sign appearing and you as player being able to move sign around and talk to characters who recognize you by the name you chose to play the game. It's interesting that not only they say don't forget, but you as player are in the Dark as in you can't even see the charecters, they just talk to you. "Don't forget, I'm with you in the Dark".
@Charlee-lk7vn
@Charlee-lk7vn 3 года назад
this might seem a little obvious, or maybe not. regardless i havent really seen this talked about but i think that deltarune takes place in an alternate universe where the monsters won the war instead of the humans, and now the humans are all underground without a way to get out. or theyre all dead, but since kris is around it makes more sense that theyre still alive somewhere. maybe kris got out somehow and ended up getting adopted by asgore and toriel, making them sort of like a parallel to chara. again it seems sort of obvious but no one ever talks about it
@sunny-ql9ll
@sunny-ql9ll 3 года назад
Never really realized that clam girl was a fun value character since i got her in my first run
@Poketom-ob1dl
@Poketom-ob1dl 3 года назад
Fun fact: Jevil, Spamton, Flower, Ralsie, Mettaton, Kris and presumably Gastor are the only characters to have or have their voices mentioned in game (beyond laughter sound effects)
@LavosTheOneEyedTick
@LavosTheOneEyedTick 3 года назад
Heyo, thanks for featuring my discoveries about the Chrono Trigger/Gaster connections! In return, I will present another set of cool Gaster's Theme/Chrono Trigger parallels for ya: "Another Him" uses the same Chrono Trigger sample that's used in Sealed Door and Gaster's Theme. It is the only Chrono Trigger sampled song in Chapter 1 - However, in Chapter 2, the song "The Dark Truth" samples a different piano, which is possibly "pianom" from the Chrono Trigger soundfont that Toby has been confirmed to use. Also in chapter 2, if/when you find the moss, a Chrono Trigger sample also plays there. Perhaps a connection as that room also contains a hint to the man with the egg room in C2, but it's a stretch. Another thing about the egg man - The person who gives you that important time egg was called *Gaspar*, and is the Guru of Time. Belthasar, the character who created the Ocean Palace, is the Guru of Reason. Gaspar resides in the End of Time after being thrown out of his home kingdom in the same disaster that stranded fellow Guru Belthasar across time and space. As Gaster was supposedly split into multiple fragments, that could be interesting. Another person, Janus, was thrown out due to the same event - and that character is the one which the "Black wind howls" line referenced in both the wind file name and during Undyne The Undying's Fight - "The Wind is Howling" - I know this is a lot but another important side note: Undyne the Undying's battle theme starts out using the same Chrono Trigger piano sample as Gaster's Theme. Once again, thanks for featuring my discoveries! (Also thanks to The Advertisement for informing me that you shared my findings)
@moss5356
@moss5356 3 года назад
14:00 it says it’s in all caps, it says “handwriting.” all the capital wingding characters use hand symbols
@swampy725
@swampy725 2 года назад
14:23 That's probably just Flowey being Flowey The handwriting is weird cause it's a flower using roots to write
@Quitting.Byeeeeee
@Quitting.Byeeeeee 3 года назад
The "The Lost Soul stands there" thing is.. literally because it's flavor text for the battle and wasn't written specifically for the Sans and Papyrus Lost Souls battle. EDIT: I fear as though the "typer value 2 " in Deltarune being someone else theory isn't a very good one. The typer values aren't directly related to the character writing them. It's just used to determine that the text needs to look the way it does. Sans writes differently when he's being threatening. And the writing is different outside of the dimension where you create your character, because you may not be as close to whoever is saying all of this anymore, so now it uses a different kind of text.
@snowy7730
@snowy7730 3 года назад
Wait… “dark world”… you know what else is dark? The void, a place where you can make up things that don’t exist, gaster is generally related to the void, maybe the dark worlds are all made from the void itself hence why when you create something and bring it to another area, or another “level” of the void, they can’t survive there and become statues. But that’s just my take and no one will probably see it 👀
@SeanTxty
@SeanTxty 2 года назад
I think, probably, the themes of "light and dark", "overworld and underworld", "human and monster" are likely all different ways of talking about the interaction between creator, player, and creation. The "holy trinity" of the game world. Light, overworld, and human all being metaphorically "the real world, players, creators" and the dark, underworld, monsters being creations. Undertale drew that divide very clearly, but Deltarune shows some idealized blending between overworld/underworld - human/monster... but even within that there is the Darkworld. A further imagined world within an imagined world. The meta-problems explored by these games cannot be resolved, resolving them ends them. Many characters want you to play, to maintain the existence of the imagined world, because they don't exist without the observer/player. They are "in the dark" and by being observed they become illuminated. Has anyone other than Kris (or possibly the player?) been identified as a lightener?
@epicdude3659
@epicdude3659 3 года назад
i'm watching this instead of trying to do Jevil's fight right before chapter 2 releases. priorities, people.
@WinEntity
@WinEntity 3 года назад
24:47 2 ^ 6 = 64. [Typer Voice 2] to the power of [the 6th Goner] = The player character. Might be a stretch, though.
@Bendyman09
@Bendyman09 3 года назад
when you were talking about how gaster got himslef shattered across time and space. it made me think about the shadow crystals in deltarune chapter 2. could these 2 things possibly be connected?
@stef__an
@stef__an 3 года назад
Great video, just wanna point out something. I doubt the first few entries are written by Gaster, and here's why. 1. Regular capitalization and regular line breaks contrast Gaster's signature all caps and line breaks for emphasis text. 2. Toby is a smart guy, but he ain't no genius. I doubt he wrote Hapsta's diaries alongside Alphys' entries with a timeline in mind, and it's a bit of a stretch to say he did. While the implications of it are interesting, the more likely scenario here is the Shyra [name of Shyren's sister] reference is a thing Toby put in to flesh out the world, without thinking of the timeline implication. Plus, proper punctuation returns later, and as long as I didn't miss something in your video, that isn't explained. edit: Oh, also, if those entries are Gaster's, that means the amalgamates are his creation, and he injected them with determination. So then, why does Alphys not only blame herself for them, but also talks in lowercase entries about injecting MORE stuff with determination... Other than that, great stuff as always!
@link_team3855
@link_team3855 3 года назад
19:40 maybe he tried to make a teleporter? maybe know using souls on the barrier directly would dissolve them, gaster tried to make a teleporter to pass through the barrier. first designed HOW to teleport, taught it to sans. and then got a machine to do it. and.. he teleported to nowhere.
@thepopeofdope7713
@thepopeofdope7713 3 года назад
In vol. 1 at 9:13 he is talking about spectograms and tries to see if the frequencies of mus_smile draw anything and they absolutely draw Lancer's Dad's face. He also mentions in this video at around 39:00 that the alt code for 6 is a spade. I thought these were interesting details I caught on to while watching vol 1 and 2 back to back
@Treyway31201
@Treyway31201 3 года назад
In chapter 2, when back in town, Kris and Susie can visit the shelter in the south of town. After an interaction with monster kid and the other guy whose name I forgot, it's heavily hinted (if not downright stated) that Kris went into the shelter and came out a little weird sometime ago. If the shelter is connected to Gaster, and we do create a "goner" (possibly a "goner" version of Kris?) at the beginning of chapter 1, then this could mean that Kris and the fact that we control him could have something to do with Gaster.
@RavenLuni
@RavenLuni 3 года назад
Another point of interest is that Gerson is dead in Deltarune - which conveniently precludes any loose ends involving his experience of the war between monsters and humans.
@DaSheepKiller
@DaSheepKiller 3 года назад
Gaster is (possibly) split into 7 pieces. There are (likely) 7 Shadow Crystals. What if the Shadow Crystals are pieces of Gaster?
@Pascll
@Pascll 3 года назад
7:06 also, it says lost souls right there, plural. with sans and papyrus. so, the lost soul singular with them is definitely an error.
@RTDelete
@RTDelete 3 года назад
I can't quite place my finger on it, but the humor in these videos has increased massively recently
@B4K4xNi
@B4K4xNi 3 года назад
Just seems weird to assume "him" refers to Gaster when the track "His Theme" is Asriel's leitmotif, not to mention all references to a "vessel" in Undertale refer to the flower that housed Asriel's soul, ("I sent the SOULS back to ASGORE, returned the vessel to his garden...") So when we create a *vessel* in Deltarune- *Another Him* - well, it just seems like there might be another explanation.
@just_inker2584
@just_inker2584 3 года назад
Asriel's theme called HIS theme, while Gaster's called mus_HIM, its just "HIM". You know there is a difference between HIM and HIS. So another him is another Gaster theme, also on deltarune website page with windings called him.png, so HIM is Gaster. Also vessel creation called Goner maker in game files, and Flowey isn't goner.
@leedlelel2373
@leedlelel2373 2 года назад
Im sorry but just because toby used the word "vessel" 2 times doesnt mean theyre connected, and the vessel in deltarune would be weird if it was gendered
@trashking471
@trashking471 3 года назад
26:52 "Fucking Universe Number" Until Toby Fox deconfirms this 😡
@Bob-gu9qc
@Bob-gu9qc 2 года назад
28:30 I know I'm late but I have an idea for how this could link to Sans & Gaster. The word search is Sans's "puzzle", and the word search relates to Deltarune with "Ice-E" not showing up anywhere else in Undertale. Meaning that Sans could have had the word search on him when he was brought to the Undertale world. So not only would this explain how the word search relates to Gaster, but is also another piece of evidence that Sans is from Deltarune.
@matthewcurl1837
@matthewcurl1837 3 года назад
My theory for the acronym of Fun is functional universe number. Since that is the current universe that is functioning in time and space.
@evervirescent
@evervirescent 3 года назад
i heard that one somewhere, i don’t remember where tho
@lukausedsteal1026
@lukausedsteal1026 3 года назад
Personal guess but “FUN” might stand for “Finite Universe Number” as there are 100 of these “alternate” universe numbers and Deltarune is seemingly an entirely different reality.
@underplayer420
@underplayer420 3 года назад
I know there will be a lot of theory and easter egg vids of the new DeltaRune Chapter 2, but I hope you make a Chara summary video some day. She's so misunderstood as just a mindless killer, while she's more of a punisher/executioner. They punish the player for what they've done and make sure that you know that there are consequences to your actions. Sans is the judge, the monsters are the jury, and Chara is the executioner. Or you can interpret it as you corrupting her as she tries to get you to spare as much as possible and calls you a monster if you kill, until she starts becoming as merciless as you. People blame her so they dont have to feel guilty, but it's all the players fault for Genocide. Sry for long comment
@dimples9746
@dimples9746 3 года назад
I kinda interpret Chara as a parallel to Flowey’s story. Flowey had experienced the same timeline countless times, and at some point he got curious (and thus he went postal) hypothetically, the same thing happened to the player- they wanted to see what would happen if nobody was spared. also Chara’s shirt is similar to Asriel’s, which could imply something. idk I’m not matthew “fnaf vid 999” patrick
@thefortemfortispandorian8333
@thefortemfortispandorian8333 3 года назад
@@dimples9746 I think the similar shirts are due to both being children thus having striped shirts and, well, maybe they needed azzy's shirts due to falling from the surface and not having a good one, and they are siblings
@underplayer420
@underplayer420 3 года назад
@@thefortemfortispandorian8333 I agree. I think Flowey is supposed to parallel the player, seeing them as just a game to mess with.
@noahwilson3809
@noahwilson3809 3 года назад
"Housing a piece of Ghaster" Kris tears his soul out from his body, leaving him empty. Could it be Kris is the vessel meant for the Ghaster fragment?
@meanpersona4686
@meanpersona4686 3 года назад
I think there was something in the japanese translation that solidified Gaster as a character speaking in the "Create a vessel" section of Deltarune. In japanese there's something called honorifics. They change depends of who your talking to etc. They can signify your character too, beacause it changes how you're adressing yourself. I know Game theory did a video about it, but they weren't talking about Gaster specifically. For the life of me I can't find the post talking about it, but I guess I just wanted to sorta let you know.
@TokyoDrift456
@TokyoDrift456 3 года назад
as soon as "the knight" was mentioned, i figured Kris had something to do with things since he's the only one dressed in knightly armor
@alsartsavience3512
@alsartsavience3512 3 года назад
Even before Chapter 2 is out great job, 2LT.
@KikiCatMeow
@KikiCatMeow 3 года назад
Something interesting with the number 7 There’s supposedly going to be 7 chapters of Deltarune. So far, we have two, each with a secret boss. Jevil in Chapter 1, Spamton in Chapter 2. Both Jevil and Spamton are very clearly…off. It’s confirmed through in-game dialogue that Jevil came in contact with someone who caused his insanity, presumably Gaster, and it’s theorized the same thing with Spamton. The idea of an experiment is very commonly brought up in relation to Deltarune. We design a “Goner” at the very start. Maybe Gaster is using characters like Jevil and Spamton for an experiment of some kind? And we’ll likely have a new character for each chapter, my theory being that the final chapter will either involve Kris, or the Goner we created, meeting Gaster. There also seems to be an Egg in each Chapter so far. Who knows if that has any significance. Just something to think about for the people with a lot more theorizing ability than I have.
@kinggraham5183
@kinggraham5183 3 года назад
"Head Canon" was actually a pretty good joke!
@SteamedCraw
@SteamedCraw 3 года назад
One thing to note with deltarune chapter 2. The “gaster fade” appeared again when you let lancer out of your inventory in queens castle. Does this disprove the theory… or imply something more?
@leedlelel2373
@leedlelel2373 2 года назад
It... Doesnt... Thats an entirely different sound...
@mistybreeze205
@mistybreeze205 2 года назад
From what ive heard from other people, there is ONE other time typer 2 is used. And its used in chapter 1 when Susie threatens kris's face in the school hallway. This means that its very likely that typer 2 is not given to one single character, since it wouldn't really make sense that susie would talk to us the player. Which means that the whole vessel scene was all one single person. Likely Gaster.
@Lokye54
@Lokye54 3 года назад
it's been 1 day dude...HOW DID YOU FIND ALL THIS IN ONE DAY?!?!
@unknown_acc8389
@unknown_acc8389 3 года назад
Hello I'm a french viewer and I wasn't expecting to see Captain Hype's channel, it was a nice surprise ^^
@GippyHappy
@GippyHappy 3 года назад
Graeme: "If you want to read into numerology-" Me: "I don't." Graeme: "And regardless if you want to, we're gonna" Me: 😮
@Danieh12
@Danieh12 3 года назад
***SPOILER*** Talking about the secret boss under the queen's castle. If You come back to the place of his shop after defeating him, you'll find some creepy guys talking about his past. One of them says that the guy's got a strange call and when that creep man went to the phone, it sounded just a garbage noise. Well, that garbage noise is actually the same thing the Game tells You after using the phone in the dark world. (I'm spanish, sorry for my bad writing) Poor guy man...
@Neganerd
@Neganerd 2 года назад
Poor Spamton :'(
@TheAdvertisement
@TheAdvertisement 3 года назад
Tons of new Gaster stuff to unpack in this one! Quite a few of the Undertale and even some of the code-related Deltarune ones I knew (typer was my favorite), but I put my own findings on the backboard for a while. Little did I know you'd bring em in the meantime! 1:52 Many people thought it was the two Gaster was referring to in Entry #17, but it's heavily hinted to actually be Sans and Alphys. 3:08 akshdsj TOBY HOW DO YOU KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!? I swear the egg likely being a Chrono Trigger time egg reference and all the secrets behind it was already so much, but no he adds _another_ layer! 6:52 Not to mention all known pieces of Gaster are connected to fun events and with the Gaster followers. 8:19 Also we can find Shyren in Deltarune Chapter 2 now! She's in the hospital, and yes, just a head. 14:15 Oh, I always thought it was supposed to be Flowey. 14:38 ...Alright, you've me curious about this one. I thought it was just Alphys getting scared but, the timeline does seem to reflect different characters. 16:03 What makes you think Shyren's sister wasn't rounded up with everyone? Mettaton meeting Alphys later confirms she couldn't have been gathered before then, and monsters stay comatose when they fall down for a while. 19:55 I always thought it was Sans and Alphys trying to undo his erasure. 20:26 Ehhhh this one pushes it, especially since the entry directly before is Alphys panicking that no one's waking up. 21:48 Ooooh I never connected that. 22:05 Wait wait wait what if... you know those Shadow Crystal that the secret bosses (so far only Jevil and Spamton, but it seems like it's going to become a theme through the chapters) give you? What if those are Gaster? What if, similar to the cobalt star in M&L Partners in Time, once we connect all (7? It looks like there's gonna be 7 chapters in Deltarune, and therefore 7 secret bosses) the shards, we reconstruct Gaster and free him? 22:18 While the actual three called _followers_ are in Hotland, the picture's a bit misleading. Goner Kid and Goner Clamgirl are both in Waterfall. 23:38 Ooo perhaps we are actually creating a follower! But then we get tied to Kris... I wonder, were we supposed to be separate all along? And if so, who were we supposed to be tied to? 24:26 I think this is just that Toby want all these things between 60 and 66, and the three Gastrr followers were supposed to be at 6(1), 6(2), and 6(3). 26:00 Determination lmao. I do believe these are coincidences, 64 ties to too many things. Plus horoscopes and I'm guessing numerology always have one trope of every type to try and hit all its bases and rope people in more. 28:14 _It's all connected._ 30:30 Considering some of your theories so far I fully believe this one lol. Also it's important to note that the mystery man hallway is a room between rooms that you have a random chance of getting, just like the egg man room. 30:57 I've done tons of research on Memoryheads! I'm excited for this one. 31:50 Oh neat, I never connected that! 33:45 ...Good one Toby. 34:55 And considering the fact that Toby ends up using mus_smile for a literal dial up tone in Deltarune! 35:43 I consider it to be literally filler, like the purpose of the text is, because the memoryhead isn't able to say anything because at the moment, it isn't there! So it's filled in automatically by the universe. 36:50 Yooooo Lavos my man! I know that guy! :D 37:47 It is pretty significant you bring the main character back to life lmao. 38:27 I consider it being the other Gaster that exists in Deltarune. 39:20 How do I never find out about these lol. 40:25 Let's go Sweden coming in clutch. 40:29 Or perhaps Gaster is a guest as in, not unique to this world? 41:04 Haha pretty sure this video is longer than 17 minutes.
@flashywastaken1379
@flashywastaken1379 3 года назад
nice! also im here early! i really like it when you make theories!
@Blazehunter-wx7xp
@Blazehunter-wx7xp 3 года назад
32:50 "bad memory full heals if you have 3 health." If you play on a true pacifist run and get no EXP then it is healing you 17 health
@kUHASZ
@kUHASZ 3 года назад
Pov: you are still waiting for the last part of "Finding the References"
@kirbywithaknifeisawesome6028
@kirbywithaknifeisawesome6028 3 года назад
Think he did it already
@kUHASZ
@kUHASZ 3 года назад
@@kirbywithaknifeisawesome6028 he said he will do one more for things he missed.
@StarWalker-si4nm
@StarWalker-si4nm 3 года назад
I have a question. Isn’t that “Gaster” voice noise the same exact one in Deltarune chapter two when you use your phone?
@naatikata8018
@naatikata8018 3 года назад
I was helping out (a very little part) for the gaster theories and subtitled a part of the videos for Captain Hype. We're currently theorizing on deltarune since the team really shred down. It s a funny feeling doing this all over again 5 years later ! Anyway incredible video.
@PajkaEagle
@PajkaEagle 3 года назад
"skeletons cannot smile" 8:15 Now if you think of that, skeletons always look like they are smiling. Like if you search skeleton on google or anywhere and look at any picture it looks like they are smiling. (unless you are looking on one which has broken jaw or something lmao) So maybe they weren't actualy smiling, but because Frisk is human, she/he/they might have assumed that they are smiling because skeletons always look like they are smiling. *But maybe in undertale world those aren't human looking skeletons or something but I still kinda wanted to point this out* :}
@senri3125
@senri3125 3 года назад
One thing I'll mention: In entry 17, it talks about darkness, 'photon reading zero'. My theory is that Gaster managed to open up a Dark Fountain, and that log was about the experiment that lead to it.
@exammole4545
@exammole4545 3 года назад
Thought it was interesting, google says dreaming of eggs means “abundance, well-being, prosperity, fertility, life, universality, rebirth, renewal, strength, vitality etc.” I dunno lol Edit: Maybe Gaster will make a chance appearance in Chapter 7*?
@rodaki9408
@rodaki9408 3 года назад
I'm extremely sure that the leitmotif from Gasters theme is in the song that plays when you fight Queen in chapter 2 of Deltarune, tho I could've misheard it
@dourdaur
@dourdaur 3 года назад
"That Gaster is divided to seven pieces." ... Me not staring at the seven chapters menu and making up some theory behind it.
@ConvenientlyShapedUsername
@ConvenientlyShapedUsername 3 года назад
You can seemingly collect one egg for each chapter too! Seven eggs..
@vuikun
@vuikun 3 года назад
@@ConvenientlyShapedUsername also a secret boss in every chapter, and they each drop a shadow crystal, so seven shadow crystals too
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