Pilot Ignored The Warnings (Vietnam Airlines Flight 815) - DISASTER BREAKDOWN 

I’m eating Vietnamese noodles while watching this what a coincidence 😄

Have you considered doing a video on BOAC flight 777?

Please do the Air Koryo plane crash.

cambodia was basically anarchy after the khmer rouge because most of the educated and skilled labour were wiped out along with the previous government; schools became non existent and the new generation grew up barely surviving.. thats what led to becoming a hellhole

​​@@po1ariserbut now it's a little better because the new young generation are getting better education

Just be happy you weren't born there in the 1970s/80s.

This happens in other "Third World" countries, as well. Anything that looks like it can be sold for cash disappears.

thanks to perpetual impoverishment. And there are plenty of uneducated idiots who think third world living is better.@@richardlahan7068

I kept up on the Joplin tornado news, and my jaw dropped when I read that a firefighter and four National Guard soldiers were one and the same of the pond scum looters (that, among other things, they were tasked to limit/prevent) after that horrific event.

@@Charlestonthecool41 jesus, what a hellhole...

@@Charlestonthecool41 Wow. I always think of that being something only seen in poor countries with people desperate to find food for their kids once every day or two, but I guess people are people, and there will probably always be a certain percentage of us who will do such things.

Given the poverty in Cambodia at the time, it doesn't make my blood boil. I can't really blame them for taking an opportunity when it presented itself. The ones who recognized the data recorders were especially industrious given they probably knew the government would pay to recover them, which it did.

You need to understand the historical and the political context-- there is ancient enmity between southern Vietnamese and the Khmer/Cambodian people to begin with, but then what happened during the American invasion? Cambodia (and Laos) were bombed heavily and their western-aligned governments did nothing, leading to their overthrow. In the case of Cambodia, by the Khmer-Rogue who theoretically should have been allies ideologically with the Vietnamese left and independence movement, and except they ended up having a much more nationalistic and racialist bent and their leader was a raving lunatic who thought anyone with eyeglasses was plotting against him, and we know what followed... but what westerns are NEVER taught... is who STOPPED the crimes against humanity being committed by the Cambodian communists-- it was the Vietnamese communists. They are the ones who went in and deposed that government-- and then the USA and the west CONDEMNED AND SANCTIONED Vietnam for it and said "how dare you! only WE get to do that! That genocidal government should be put BACK in power!"..... and so you see a brief period of liberalization backsliding into fascism in Cambodia today...... and a lot of Cambodians now in part blame Vietnam for their ills even more than before...

Whenever I picture a stopwatch I also picture B-17's flying in formation at night

Marc, being experienced you know that in an environment where the Capt is next to God and there is a total lack of CRM there is no question if an accident is going to happen, the question is just will i be on board ?

@@pascalcoole2725 Hmmm...in the old days sure, commands to a first officer from a Captain were ......Gear up, flaps up, and now, shut up. CRM has been excellent for decades. (crew resource management) At the airlines, it's core part of training, and then development in the field. New pilots are paired with top Captains, all of whom stress safety, and that CRM is a core component of safety. "Egos have no place in safety", etc. Sadly, it did take a few instances when a junior pilot did not confront a captain, and it led to tragedy.

@@MarcPagan Although i'm not that old, aviation for me is twenty years ago, and at the time i have seen some stuff indeed. Thanks for your response.

Is it history, his story or both?

This accident was caused by the pilots and the airport equipments, not by the airplane. So changing to new airplanes has nothing to do with such accidents.

@@jiankang813 newer = safer standards Age of the aircraft may not have been a factor in this crash, but retiring old aircraft for new is certainly a step up in terms of safety.

@@underwaterdick yeah and they probably updated other stuff too at the airport etc. Every country is going to have their ups and downs and as it’s still somewhat a relatively new thing for lack of a better adjective. Means of conveyance. 😂 unfortunately so many of the safety protocols we have now were put in after terrible accident showed us or actually the engineers etc. And the maintenance crews and whomever, depending on what accident were talking about, that this, or that was a problem that could become a huge problem. And then it gets fixed so it becomes a non issue.

​@@rachmunshine9474unless it's a Boeing problem.....then, the FAA just pushes it under the rug

​@@jiankang813this is true, however what is also true is that Vietnam airlines hasn't had a fatal accident since. So clearly the airplanes aren't the only thing that changed.

My condolences to you and your fellow countrymen. Tragic all the way around 😥

I would like to see a video about this crash. I've seen one on Mayday. Very tragic! Think this is when Korean Airlines started being more safe. They hired a guy to help make their Airlines better. My condolences!

The majority of those 21 were medical student on their way to donate medical equipments to Cambodia

​@@farhanatashiga3721 That's so tragic. I hope they RIP and that their loved ones have been able to find whatever peace they can.

Thanks for the info. I always appreciate corrections from native speakers :)

Poverty is common in Cambodia

some of the looters probably ate some of the victims

The former, given the state of the Cambodian economy at the time. There is no evidence that the looting interfered with rescue efforts. The crash was severe, so the fact that 5 people initially survived is remarkable in itself.

So a running theme is two crashes in your mind? I think you need to reevaluate that line of thinking as there probably hundreds of thousands of crashes in this area of the world 🌎.

Wasn't there one in Central America also?

@@DevilSurvivor69 Maybe you need to stop doing drugs, hundreds of thousands of crashes? What in the holy fuck planet are you living on???

It isn't a running theme. What IS a running theme is that when people are in wartorn countries with little to no food, they do anything they can to survive. And that part of Asia was screwed from the war, and more. Operation Babylift: The plane crashed in a rice paddy right where North Vietnamese had been fighting the night before, right in Saigon. 100 South Vietnamese had to protect the survivors but no one could protect the site at night once the survivors were gone. The US had to buy back as much as it could before finding out the issue was a design issue. This crash: Cambodia led a genocide in the 70s until there was a war with Vietnam. After that, Vietnam became their defacto ruler until the SAME year as this crash when a coup was held and governments changed. I can't imagine how desperate these people were. If there was looting by cops as people died, that's beyond wrong. But in that case I'd just say they should've made a perimeter with guns, saved as many as they could, then looted. I doubt government jobs ran by the country you lost to (who also was in shambles due to the amount of bombs we left everywhere among manyyyy other things) paid much. These people were starving. Edit: Lauda 004 apparently dealt with people looting jewelry and electronics. It doesn't appear like it was many airplane wreckage parts, especially as Niki Lauda flew to Thailand to see for himself what happened.

@@DevilSurvivor69 hundreds of thousands plane crashes..Surely not

I was thinking the same, might just be for scrap metal but you would think it would take time to remove all the stuff mentioned. Perhaps people were bribed to turn a blind eye?

Imagine a genocidal dictator seized control of the military, abolished money, forced everyone to work on farms and killed anyone who gave them problems including all of the intellectuals and teachers. Then your neighbors invade because the dictator attacked them but they just install a puppet government and the UN sanctions them. Now have that invading country's plane crash in the middle of your farm just a few years after you finally got them to leave. So irritating.

You may survive the crash but you can't escape the looting in Cambodia. So sad.

the dead people were cut up and sold on the open meat markets as "dog meat".

A man tries to land a plane on some people’s homes and your takeaway is “how dare they loot the crash site?!” LoL, ok, kid. I dunno, maybe he shouldn’t have attempted to murder them with his flying deathmobile. It’s a shame the survivors weren’t helped by the first responders who showed up to do nothing as usual, but to whoever got paid for the black boxes, good for them. Look, airlines, if you don’t want to me to ransom your plane back to you, don’t put unqualified incompetent murderers who are going to try landing your plane in my living room in your cockpit, and then you’ll never have to. Simple and easy. Because once your pilot attempts to murder me by crashing into my town, yeah, I’m gonna want my payoff too, just like everyone else involved. Capitalism 101. They need it and you only have it so give me $420 million, that’s only one 747, Boeing, and I’m just doing what any CEO would, including Boeing’s. “Me first and fuck you, the consumer, to death.” Ah, what a wonderful system. Unless it’s not you benefiting, of course, then *”HOW DARE THEY PROFIT OFF OF AN AIRLINE’S INCOMPETENCE?!* … like all the other local airlines did….”

It is yes! Very impressive turnaround from Vietnam Airlines!

Modern planes and good training Soviet planes are not bad, but they are work intensive

Ok Vietnam Airlines, nice try

And I still won't fly on it.

@Bảo Châu Yeah, but it was more like a threat made by a guy on crack or something than a actual shoot down/terrorist attack

Yes it's happened in our incidents

It happened even recently in Russia and Russia is a first world country or at least professes to be.

Arrogance that got others killed

I'll look into it

Yes he should start doing some maritime disasters too

Chloe? Disaster breakdown is female?

@@EvanBear yeah she is

It was an insurance fraud. They swapped ships.

Almost everyone was dead except for the 5 who were rescued. It's not surprising when you look at the photos of the crash site. Cambodia was very poor at the time, so I can't really blame them for taking an opportunity to feed themselves and their families when they saw it.

Let's hope and pray the training is topnotch and also, good luck, doesn't matter what position, good luck

Yes I agree- good luck! You got this!

No problem 👍

You do realize English is the language of all airlines. Yeah the pilots might talk to each other in their native language but not with Air control.

@@wyomingadventures Yeah English is the Lingua Franca of Air; and Sea

It would be probably in English wouldn't waste your breath on it.

I won't be so sure as you all above me, when the route and airline is regional it's entirely possible for the language of communication to not be English, just look at aeroperu 603, the communication of that flight both in the cockpit and with ATC was entirely in Spanish.

@@farhanatashiga3721 yep. VN Airlines 815 in this case, all three pilots were VN’ese. They would not have spoken a word of English. If Anything, they would have been occasionally using the Russian names of the various cockpit/aeronautical systems terms, since there might not be a word in VN’ese . It would be interesting to hear how they spoke and handled the flight in the last 15 minutes. Often times on this channel we get to hear cockpit voice recordings. Apparently not available for this crash. Note to those with poor reading comprehension (Wyoming Adventures)- yes we are all aware that when no other common language is shared between the two parties then E is the default. Cockpit to ATC obviously is in E both ways and obviously not what I, a Vietnamese interpreter said I was interested in listening to.

@Danny Lam Columbians at a crash site: hold our beers.

Yeah he's heard that a couple hundred times now.

@@wyomingadventures she but it would be nice if a comment was pinned making small corrections

Thanks for watching!

Quick access recorder, as I understand it, it is there so that some specific datas can be extracted from the plane for certain scenarios without having to cut through the whole tail for the two main boxes.

@@farhanatashiga3721 Thank you!

Just incase someone loots the other two

It’s Russian , there’s your answer .

He made a mistake. And said he appreciated someone telling him that. Comment above

Thank you!

The type of "scumbags" that have lost their humanity due to prolonged starvation. Hunger makes you do things... Of course we will never fully understand because here we are with our bellies filled shooting off what we please on the world wide web. Pity.

The people who are given not enough resources to live normally eh?

@@txb870 I was born two (ish) weeks after the fall of Saigon, and with the help of the internet, I've been able to do a deep dive on something barely touched on in my schooling, and that which none of my adult family (particularly the vets) were ever keen to discuss. The hell that Southeast Asia and its people endured (it was all horrific, but especially Cambodians...holy sh*t) was one of the most difficult things I've ever learned about in my 47 years on this planet.

@@Charlestonthecool41 War is hell. My family lived through the fall of Saigon and told me horrific stories of what the commies did to our family and other South Vietnamese.

@@txb870 I imagine that the term 'traumatic' doesn't even begin to describe what they went through. It's depressing as hell that in the nearly five decades since (not to mention the entirety of everything that came before) we still haven't worked out how to share this rock of ours, given that there's ZERO choice in the matter. Nor will there be for the foreseeable future. I hope you and everyone in your family are happy and thriving.

Imagine a genocidal dictator abolished money, private property of any kind, literally forces everyone to wear the same clothes, killed all the intellectuals including a lot of people in healthcare then sent everyone to work on farms, or to death camps. Then he attacks your neighbor who retaliate, and forcibly occupy your country. After you finally oust their puppet government and one if their planes crashes into your farm. Stuff like that can change your perspective as to what is and isn't reasonable.

it is a word.

Sure added to the list. There's only a couple hundred now. I'm joking. Someone has done one on it. But I can't remember the channel name. Type it in and you will find it.

Until the investigation report is complete there isn't anything to cover. That typically takes a few years.

I've got a couple on my to do list

@@DisasterBreakdown cool, but will you make a non plane accident about MV dona pz

@@senabecool7232 not asking for much huh😄

Imagine the government abolished money and forced everyone to work on farms and if you didn't do as they said they either executed you on the spot or sent you a death camp. Now that dictator who ruined everything attacks your neighbor so they invade and install a puppet government under their control. Now, after decades of oppression by this foreign power, just a few years after you finally force them out, one of their planes crashes into your farm. That's just a level of desperation I hope neither of us ever have to experience.

The folks responsible had been decidedly non-blessed in every conceivable way for two (plus) decades up to and including the time of this crash. Ways that are every bit as gut-wrenching and dehumanizing, which came full circle with this event. Read up on it. No doubt, the looting was horrific, but perhaps a bit of context might help with some understanding (not condoning) of the situation and mindset of those responsible.

happened in thailand too, involving an austrian lauda air boeing 767

True. It was in Cambodia, so all the people were Khmer.