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Pinarello Dogma F10 

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As the ink was drying on my review of the F8, I started to hear rumors of a secret new bike from Pinarello. Froome was probably on something new and different in the 2016 tour, but the official word didn’t hit the press until January of 2017: yes, there IS a new bike. And yes: it IS a step up from the highly decorated F8.
With the F10, much of the tech and materials remained the same: Toray T1100K carbon with nano-particled epoxy that adds strength and durability…asymmetric construction…and aerodynamic tube shaping…BUT…in the two years since the F8 hit the scene, the collaboration between team sky and Pinarello was at full throttle behind the scenes, and as a result, the F10 has just graduated from the school of Incremental Gains at the top of its class.
And, here’s what’s improved - it’s the 4 pillars of bike engineering: Power transfer, aerodynamics, weight, and compliance. It’s 7% stiffer, 6.3% lighter, the main triangle is 12.8% more aero…and when ridden side by side with an identically-equipped F8 there’s a small, but very noticeable improvement in the way it soaks up road chatter.
Probably the most noticeable change is the “FlatBack” downtube and the “Fork Flaps” up front. The flaps reduce drag by 10%, but the downtube has a more welcome affect on the bike: it makes the frame more stable in crosswinds, both on paper and in real life.
Now, that’s all pretty cool. But, I’m sure the question you’re asking is “7%? 6.3%? Really? Is it really worth it? I mean, how different can it BE?? Right?
Well, let’s start with this: the F10 only costs 4% more than the F8. Four. Percent. And after spending 2 years on the 65.1, and a year on the F8, I feel like I know the Dogma. So, I can honestly say this: it’s worth it. You see, one of the big complaints about the F8 was that it was a purebred racer and that the 65.1 was a better all-rounder. And I can validate that: the F8’s a demon. It’s the fastest race bike I’ve ridden, and it’s on a knife edge. And, at times, that can be a bit much.
The incremental gains of the F10 give it balance. On one hand, it accelerates and climbs better than anything - including the F8, but on the other there’s a slight but very noticeable improvement in the overall smoothness of the frame - just enough to peel away a layer of nervousness in a choppy corner. And while the backside of the downtube may look a bit unconventional, it makes the front half of the bike surprisingly less twitchy and more controllable when you’re riding no-handed or in a relentless crosswind.
Admittedly, I was skeptical that there would be ANY difference between the two bikes and the F10 took me totally by surprise. It’s literally better in every way, and you can definitely feel the difference. Honestly, I think you’re getting 15% more bike for 4% more money.

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Комментарии : 45   
@simonjagassar
@simonjagassar 7 лет назад
Glad to see you back Andy. Would love to get one. But it's big bucks
@coldforgedcowboy
@coldforgedcowboy 7 лет назад
Welcome back Andy, glad to see some new reviews.
@dickmartino9933
@dickmartino9933 6 лет назад
Pinarello are so associated with Sky that many don;t think of them as bikes that are attainable for cost reasons.
@mrromero3219
@mrromero3219 7 лет назад
he's back!
@jerome27100
@jerome27100 7 лет назад
Stopped watching when I saw that silly placed Garmin. All those aero improvements shattered with that thing angled as if it is going to take off any minute.
@AndyClarkRealReviews
@AndyClarkRealReviews 7 лет назад
Right? What a Fred.
@panospap1
@panospap1 7 лет назад
Andy.... in 2 years from now there will be a pinarello F12 ! the point is....all those bikes cant stand in time! (except you are a pro so they are free!) BUT there are some bike worth their money.....like Colnago Master!
@raphaeltiziani7476
@raphaeltiziani7476 7 лет назад
I have a Pinarello Gan S 2017 with Ultegra groupset. Would like to have a F8/10 but it costs to much for me right now. However Im happy with the Gan S. Could you maybe review also the Gan line?
@rbradominican
@rbradominican 7 лет назад
the point is not the improvement, the point there is the looking. what a nice looking bike. who cares about how fast. you have to have the legs to make fast not the bike!!
@keeganjohnson-meyers6142
@keeganjohnson-meyers6142 7 лет назад
i think you would be surprised
@cyclejockey4397
@cyclejockey4397 7 лет назад
Sweet ride for sure !
@user-rc8eq9jq4f
@user-rc8eq9jq4f 7 лет назад
can you tell me if there is a way to tell if my pinarello f 10 is a fraud? some of my riding buddies said that some are a fraud?
@tyson1ize
@tyson1ize 7 лет назад
this review is about 20% worse than the last one lol
@BioStuff415
@BioStuff415 6 лет назад
will it take 28mm tires?? preferred the F8 to my S-Works Tarm. Want a frame for 28mm... will go back to Spec is F10 only takes 25mm.
@vivoslibertos
@vivoslibertos 7 лет назад
And how much the price percentage?
@christophernixon8445
@christophernixon8445 5 лет назад
How much is this worth today?
@gpanoutsak
@gpanoutsak 7 лет назад
Perfection
@johnworldgames6240
@johnworldgames6240 6 лет назад
Linda bicicleta, eu quero uma 😃❤👍
@Dantas171Ts
@Dantas171Ts 4 года назад
60 mil c pega uma
@Blah-blah-sure
@Blah-blah-sure 6 лет назад
Hey Andy you're gonna run out of kidneys!!! 😀
@AndyClarkRealReviews
@AndyClarkRealReviews 4 года назад
I know. Good think I have three #deweycrowe
@josejimenez9395
@josejimenez9395 7 лет назад
genial,increible..
@solidstream13
@solidstream13 7 лет назад
Where is that ride? Looks like Northern California.
@AndyClarkRealReviews
@AndyClarkRealReviews 7 лет назад
Yep. 6 miles west of Novato!
@JP-et4fw
@JP-et4fw 5 лет назад
The fact is that none of the people reviewing these bikes are going to have to file for warranty when the frame fails. I checked the reviews, great; opinions, great. BUT NO ONE TOLD ANYHING ABOUT WARRANTY. Much less that Pinarello is one of the worst in the bike market, plus they never talk to customers or deal with clients. If a client files a claim for FAILED CARBON FRAME and at the end you don’t get the response from Pinarello backing the failed product......LIKE ME, YOU’ll BE SCREWED. I bought an F8 and carbon failed. Applied for Warranty, PINARELLO DENIED IT... My lost. All I can do is advise potential buyers about this and recommend them to do their homework before buying a Pinarello. Vig disappointment
@borisdodig2433
@borisdodig2433 7 лет назад
best climbing but after TARMAC.
@josorzo11
@josorzo11 7 лет назад
I'm only 1% convince.......most rider won't notice much improvement.
@Pr1vateer
@Pr1vateer 6 лет назад
if only i have the money 💰💰😀😀
@mogglie
@mogglie 7 лет назад
is andy back!
@AndyClarkRealReviews
@AndyClarkRealReviews 4 года назад
Well, kinda.
@Timtimzi
@Timtimzi 7 лет назад
Looks like marketing hype. You can save a bunch on an F8 frame depending where you buy it. I took a whole another route and went with a sworks venge vias lol.
@modernmedicine2562
@modernmedicine2562 7 лет назад
shit advertising..4% more than F8 is not like paying with potatoes..i mean come on F8 is already up to £9k..for 7%? kiss my holy ass.
@keeganjohnson-meyers6142
@keeganjohnson-meyers6142 7 лет назад
keep in mind these small gains make a large difference in professional situations.
@physiciansassist1
@physiciansassist1 6 лет назад
Waste of money if you don't have legs and heart
@orhanmertdogru5082
@orhanmertdogru5082 4 года назад
you look like steve buscemi
@AndresMUy-vd2fy
@AndresMUy-vd2fy 7 лет назад
todo chucu. unas formas lindas un poco de negro mate y rojo especial y el resto es bla bla bla y MARKETING
@johnnyjack1552
@johnnyjack1552 6 лет назад
I Have A Dog
@jamisdelsol5761
@jamisdelsol5761 5 лет назад
all in english nothing in italian or french langage ????pffffff
@AndyClarkRealReviews
@AndyClarkRealReviews 4 года назад
I only speak one language...and I don't speak it very well! :-P
@Keflynn63
@Keflynn63 7 лет назад
This bike is very heavy.
@Noone-zd7gi
@Noone-zd7gi 7 лет назад
Kerry Flynn really. I think my bike is heavier than pinarello dogma f10. Weight of my bike is 15 kg.
@paulbata6459
@paulbata6459 7 лет назад
carbon anything on a bike is a total WANK
@paulbata6459
@paulbata6459 7 лет назад
pro level riders ride what their sponsors supply them! cadel evans doesn't ride a 'bmc' in australia. he rides a 'baum' cromoly frame.
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