@@CoolCoyote I think they're having a technical chat and talking about the 'top end' of the sound. I.e. the higher frequencies/brightness. It does sound like they've lost the plot a bit though haha
The album was basically finished by this point. These sessions were basically for the cameras to add footage of them at work for the re-release of Live at Pompeii.
@@CoolCoyote Ditto on the RIP......It's quite obvious he hadn't bathed or washed those greasy locks for a day or more but not a call for a shock statement.
I took a master class with Alan Parsons back in March and I asked him if he knew he was working on something special or if it was just another album. His response was (paraphrasing) "It was clear to me that it was their best work to date, but I had no idea I'd still be talking about it 40+ years later."
prikov1, I think David said at the time they thought it was the best thing they’d created until then. However, most if not all artists say that! It’s only in retrospect that they think - oh album X wasn’t that great. In fact, Wish You Were Here is David's favourite.
everything they recorded leading up to dark side was a masterpiece. a masterpiece doesn't just mean popular. no doubt dark side is a masterpiece, so is meddle, or piper, or obscured by clouds, in their own ways. only thing was the mass public couldn't catch on
@@niamhtodd162 I think production is a big factor in comparing these albums. Dark Side of the Moon is one of the most well-produced albums ever, if not the best. I love most Floyd albums but none of them put together masterful songwriting and production like this one. I see a similar pattern with a lot of bands. They have a "peak" album where artistry and production come together. Usually it falls off on later albums (the artistry)
Roger’s the type of bloke who has probably never NOT had an opinion on a topic. He’s also an exceptional writer and conceptualist. His ambition combined with Gilmour/Wright/Mason’s musicality made for one killer outfit
Exactly. We all have him to thank for timeless music. Gilmour is one of my all time favorites, but he needed the writer/visionary to collaborate with bc he isnt as capable on his own. He can take great music to an even higher level though
Fred Gorgenchuck It’s weird that everyone gives Roger the benefit in this regard when it’s 50/50. I think the reason for this is because Pink Floyd went on without him and the quality dropped while still holding the “Pink Floyd” banner. That made Gilmour look bad. But no one points out that Roger was putting out shit solo records for years, many worse than The Division Bell, except he didn’t have the burden of expectation had he released them under the Pink Floyd moniker. When a Roger Waters solo album is good it’s a bonus, but if it’s bad no one rocks him for it as it’s naturally expected that it will pale in comparison to his prior work in Floyd. But “Pink Floyd” is expected to always be good and can only be either a cause for celebration or a crashing disappointment. I’m certain that if Roger Water had been the only founding member to continue under Pink Floyd, the albums would have seemed even worse. Case in point: he’s been flogging The Wall on tour for decades while his former band mates always looked forward to trying new music. Notice it was Roger who played Oldchella. Fuck that shit.
ArkhamInmateE32b Fair point. Roger’s solo career sucked. He started off shaky and only got worse. (I personally didnt care for Amused to Death). Waters and Gilmour definitely needed each other, although I dont think it was 50/50..Id give Waters more of the credit based on how much of the actual writing he did.
All of them had a big role in the group at their strongest phase. each one is part of the magic trick. take one of them out, and the effect is gone. David is a very important person of the group though, not only because of his lead vocals, guitar and songwriting. also a lot of the extra stuff ideas came from him, i.e. the seagull screams on echoes, with inversed plugged guitar effect cables. but, there wouldn't be a dark side like this, a wish you were here like it is and Animals (which was the strongest magic phase of Pink Floyd) without any of these 4 guys.
@@pts5217 Their relative strengths are clear to see from their solo works. Roger has concepts and lyrics, but the actual tunes and arrangements are very basic. The only really musically satisfying contributions seem to be from hired guns like Clapton and Beck. Gilmour lacks lyrics and overarching concepts, but his work is chock full of beautiful melodies and instrumentals. The Floyd catalog might suggest that Roger did most of the writing, but from his post Floyd track record, it appears that he cannot take something from demo quality to polished gem on his own. I'll take Gilmour's solo output over Waters' any day. Waters hasn't put out anything that matches the sheer beauty of On An Island or In Any Tongue.
Only cause you're staring at him through a screen. I'm sure if he was your friend those qualities would quickly switch to 'obnoxious, hot-headed and argumentative'
@@mr.nazareth4501 Nope, the qualities I referred I appreciate them also in real life. I'm bored of dealing with wokes, shills and politically-correct little sheep with no critical sense.
@@CoolCoyote I agree. David Gilmour on guitar is what made Pink Floyd all time greats! Waters always had songwriting, but with Gilmour’s guitar sound it was a sure thing
These aren't actual sessions. This was filmed after the sessions for the album were already complete - they reenacted the recording process for the film.
Lmao, yeah you look at their older versions, like the 2005 Live8 Reunion. Makes you feel like it was written by those wise old music masters. But they were young, talented musicians with a lot of energy.
in the 70-80's there were numerous musicians in their mid late teens founding awesome "supergroups" creating what was then termed 'progressive rock'... what a time! :)
This footage needs to be put in the museum of archives or somewhere where it can be preserved forever as one of music’s most historical moments of the century!
Middle school music theory class the teacher chose this album to breakdown. Funny thing was at 13, I had the album at home and listened to it everyday. There were only 2 others in the class who were already into it... a boy and this one girl, but by the end of the term the whole class was. Thank you Mr Salvas
@@CoolCoyote I mean the video here was recorded when my parents were still a kid themselves, my wording was a bit weird. I agree about the music, I still listen to comfortably numb everyday :)
Young David Gilmour seemed so fucking cool. He was always smiling or smirking in these old videos. Obvious talent combined with looking like a sexy ass rock god with long hair. Even just his line about feedback here is cool.
@@juancarlosgonzalez2537 not as songwriters they didn't Gilmour couldn't write a song by himself to save his life, Wright was pretty good though Rogers solo career proves he was the glue of the group creatively
Well you don’t really want to sound like another band anyways . No one sounded like the Beatles , no one sounded like zeppelin ,no one sounded like Jimi and no one sounded like Pink Floyd . The music around this time is the best in my opinion and I appreciate them all equally.
"It didnt sound quite as toppy" "What?" "It. Didnt. Sound. Quite. As. Toppy." "It didnt sound *as* toppy?" "No." "Well.. it must have been as toppy" "Okay."
What I’ll truly never understand about Pink Floyd is how they heard their ideas in their head. How does one imagine, echoes, crazy diamond, comfortably numb, eclipse. Just how? You essentially had to combine Hendrix, the beetles and the fusion jazz era to even be in their ballpark.
Well, dave says that 'haunting' sound at the beginning of shine on is what triggered it in Roger. I've not heard Roger confirm or deny it. Dave was always pushign for the music to be as interesting as the lyrics, and it was him who was pushign for more 'space' in the songs. Roger clearly granted him that on those tracks. I had a creative spell long ago when young, nothing like this, but there's a reason they didn't produce an album a year for their whole lives. Bob Ezrin tells the story of how he took Dave's music and wanted something 'from Pinks point of view' and told Roger to go write something and two days later he came back with comfortably numb. To get to the nuts and bolts, I've seen enough videos to see the breakdown of songs, and the first draft of CN isn't the classic we know. It takes work. But bob said as soon as he read it it was brilliant, which I'd have to agree with. Art means letting the muses flow through you honestly, and it certainly did in this case.
A lot of the time it's not as easy as it looks. It's HARD work writing music, a lot of what you hear is the result of trial and error (like in this clip you see David Gilmour experimenting with different phrases)
The way Jimi Hendrix described this band’s music was absolutely right. Their music sounds unworldly, like it’s not from this planet. Truly amazing. So glad i found them.
syd set that tone early with that grounding, then roger set the standard, then david set the great heights, but without roger, they wouldn't be where they went to imo, I'm a david fan mostly
@@PaulJonesy But I own all their albums on vinyl and play 3 of their songs live in my acoustic set. I have dyslexia and language, especially spelling, is just not my thing.
Ah, so cute that that's what he was smiling about. He seemed to smile and smirk a lot in these old videos of Floyd though. In their Echoes performance on Pompei when he was singing, he just randomly smiled. Is David the shy (talented) type?
Even at this stage, when Floyd were still a fully-functioning and democratic band, you can see that it's Roger Waters who is in charge of nailing the exact sound that he wants to hear, deciding if it's a good take or another run-up is needed. And the others are content to let him have the captain's chair, because he's enjoying it, he's good at it, and the results are stellar. Nick and Dave would sometimes fight for things that were important to them, but it seems to always have been to do with their own instrument, whereas Roger was in charge of the overall sound of the album because he was the opinionated bugger with the clear vision of what the overall album should be, not just his own performance. It's a shame that relationship decayed, because it worked incredibly well.
I think it’s so interesting to listen to the individual parts of the song. You get a much clearer perspective of all the elements that go into a song. I heard some guitar licks I hadn’t picked up on in the released recording.
The slowly panning camera is brilliant and seems to be a continuous theme with their video footage. Can be seen also in the Pompeii recordings. Theres some kind of cryatal clear and classic looking tint on Floyds clips. Amazing group.
That guitar at 6:00 mins and on would’ve gone great, honestly. I would’ve loved for it to sound like that. Not that I’m complaining. DSOTM is a MASTERPIECE.
Than,you I have been struggling with that for years I've left comme ts and questions about why can't I hear that guitar 🎸 riff in any version of Brain Damage. Maybe its just not been left in there which is such a shame its so 👌 perfect ......
@@CoolCoyote So true. I think it was Hillstreet Blues (not sure) when they first started having "in tight", handheld cameras to make it feel like you were in the action..
For anyone wondering what effects David used at around 3:50 it’s a Phaser and an Octaver (I thinks that’s what it’s called) and maybe a volume booster pedal as well. idk the specific settings but it’s not hard to figure out as long as you play the clip while adjusting your settings so that you can get it to sound accurately
It was Waters and Gilmour. The other two had to deal with their fights and bs. But man did they create the most incredible music the world may ever hear
I think that Roger Waters is a very beautiful looking man. David in pretty in a way but Roger is just striking. It is hard to see in photos but when you see Roger on film it is very different. That beauty comes out in how his face is animated when he speaks.
@@CoolCoyote I love 'em all, but The Who were the most magical and special by a mile-explosive-literally. The Who embodied the spirit of Rock and Roll.
It's so difficult to explain what Pink Floyd is. It isn't like other music, it's more like a code. I get the feeling people like Da Vinci and Isaac Newton would have totally got this music had it been available to them. listening to Dark Side especially feels like you're drifting through space, it seems to give a completely different perspective of the world around you. The images of Apollo 11 going to the moon compliment it so perfectly, and it makes me feel high without having to touch anything. Please tell me other people feel this about this band.
What you describe is the essence of Pink surrounding the Floyd. I would also add Albert Einstein to that illustrious list of luminaries. Pink Floyd is the only progressive-rock band I know of (and prog-rock is my favourite genre...) whose music appeals to such a wide demographic. Regardless of ethnicity, ideology, class, age... My mum - who usually likes classical, musicals and 50's crooners even likes Pink Floyd... Rasta friends from Jamaica like Floyd... Christians like Floyd (!) Even pets like Floyd! . Floyd - especially from Echoes to Animals are the musical equivalent of 'safe house' or 'bunker'... As comforting as sipping a good malt or Bailey's with yer well worn slippers on, in front of a log fire. And their social comentary was spookily prescient. . All Hail To The Floyds of Pink!
@@Deebz270 I can't argue with that, although I want to because like you I like prog, but you are right, they are the only band to really 'cross over' to mainstream. AND although Money was sort of radio friendly, they did it by not appealing to commerciality. Later bands went the route of sticking a radio song on each album, but that kidn of emphasis diminishes the whole enterprise. But Meddle is still my favourity floyd album. You listen to that and go "these guys are out there". However, that was the sixties. I remember Steve Hackett saying "in those days, nobody told you that you couldn't". They were just left alone to create.
Way too much toppy. Only way to have less toppy is to put some more toppy underneath the top of the toppy and make the bottom of the toppy be on top of the toppy.. Really ties the album together..
The best thing to do is turn the toppy upside down! So the toppy on the bottom is now the toppy on the top! And the toppy that was on top is now the toppy on the bottom! It’s not that difficult!
I'd like to know how a group of "Kids" came up with such deep meaning lyrics for the song "Time" (among many others). That song means something different as we grow older, and it's amazing that they could see that at such an early age.
@@CoolCoyote I also got it when it first came out from W.H Smith & they use to write the price in pencil inside the sleeve. Mine is sill readable & cost me £2.50.
@Raven Lilith Allberry Other than his crooked vampire teeth, his nose is long & looks "fixed". The long face and nose is also a sign of inbreeding in England. Look it up!
But Roger next to gorgeous Syd Barrett looks like a slapped arse. Beauty and the beast indeed. But with age, he looks better. Much better than the rest of the band.
I absolutly love watching david playing guitar !! I just love it !! I get lost in myself listening to him !!! I have loved pink floyd sense darkside of the moon ! That is when i first heard them !! I think i was 10 or 11 yrs old. There is no one better then them !!
I love Dark Side of the Moon, I worn that album out!! I listened to Pink Floyd when I was a young teenager, my older brother was amazed that I did, he asked me " you listen to Pink Floyd?" I said he'll yes!! ❤️
Some of the greatest music of all time - so many favorites from this band. But, DAMN I can't get over how gorgeous David was.....it steals my attention every time. Unbelievable beauty.
I'm a bit ignorant on who sings and plays what. David Gillmore sings. He plays rhythm and lead guitar. Then in the chorus its the Roger on bass and Nick Mason and Wright do their bits. Then there's that studio chorus of girls.
I love David Gilmour's voice. I actually think all of the Pink Floyd members have good voices from what I've heard. It's just Gilmour has the smoothest one that for me makes me think of that Pink Floyd sound.
This band was on another level. Their lyrics are from true deep though and out of world experiences. Music is amazing, I get goosebumps just thinking about these guys.
In case you haven't done it yet, I highly recommend listening to the entirety of Pink Floyd's work, beginning with Syd. Some of it isn't great, and a lot of it is incredible. But as you progress through their recordings it is amazing to see their development over time. And I believe you will find that The Wall is not their best work. For me it's not even in their top three or four albums.
Absolutely facinating video of the creative act in progress, the desire to get it 'just right', the patience and professionalism needed to channel and control the artistic energy, just amazing to watch.
Possibly the first time (Not counting the Beatles) the construction of a musical piece of art has been captured for posterity.. You can only imagine being the engineer (Alan Parsons) listening to all this coming together and realising this was not just another album being recorded, then listening to the whole thing when it was finished...
@Joe Blo : Thanks for the input.I have this VHS tape as one of my many treasured Pink Floyd paraphernalia items.Needles to say never gets Old just Better.
@Joe Blo : Indeed, that happens and I know the feeling.Floydians are just a breed apart from the rest.I saw them five times in concert before Roger left. I will die happy by the way, my wife of 35 years loves them and my two sons, 32 and 28.Stay well and keep the Floyd sound flowing through your veins. 🤘🎵🥇🇧🇴🇬🇧🇺🇸
I remember getting an old DVD of this from a neighbor when I was in 7th grade because he was getting rid of old stuff and he knew I liked Pink Floyd so he gave this and a few albums to me. Changed me forever. The part that I’ve truly never forgot, that breaks me every time starts @ 5:58. I heard that over 20 years ago and it still hits me when the best and worst moments of life come to mind.
Life will never be like this again. Enjoy this snapshot! Thank you for sharing this. I watched the directors cut of live at Pompeii hundreds of times when I was in highschool and this was a scene from it. Watching it now has reawakened something inside me that I thought I had lost or forgotten. I feel filled with piss and vinegar and inspiration as if I was a teenager again. Time to go out and doing something amazing!
Interesting note for nerds: The EMI TG12345 MK IV recording console used on DSOTM and The Beatles Abbey Road album was recently auctioned off for 1.8 million pounds. Can you imagine owning that piece of history? It’s still in good working condition too. There’s also a twin of it at a studio in Austria.
Roger Waters was so smart, the way he is talking about the music is so ahead of it’s time, other musicians weren’t talking about it like that maybe Zappa
Ok I'm going to say it, Roger seemed like a real prick, but that being said without his input which david said usually was right we wouldn't have these works of art.
I recently watched a segment about Yes' Tales from Topographic times ... this age of music is without a doubt the best age. Imagination and soulful exploration. I just feel blessed to have been in the notch of understanding ... 'cause i don't feel like most kids these days can access the wonder.
They don't sound as toppy in the latter half of the video as the do in the beginning. When they start speaking to the gentleman off camera they become a little less proper.
