Please & Thank You | The Steve Dangle Podcast 

At this rate it’s practically tradition now. “Gather round kids, let’s watch the leafs lose in a do or die game again!”

Narrator's voice: "They did not win the #1 pick."

Difference between the Kane contract and Marner contract is Kane signed his contract after they won 2 cups and during the year they went on to win the third. Marner and the Leafs haven't won yet.

Steve I actually started to root for the leafs after watching your content... I’m filing a lawsuit

Here’s how it is, nobody who’s a fan of another team has ever said. “Oh man, we gotta face the leafs in the first round!? How are we ever supposed to beat them!?”

Ceci was horrendous, no doubt. But let's not forget, without him we could still have 4 more years of Nikita Zaitsev.

Feels weird to say but this was one of my favourite podcast episodes ever lol. I just really appreciate how you guys didn't hold any punches and were brutally honest. It was honestly really cathartic listening to this one.

Steve said "get out the guillotine" thanks I love it

guys, even from Ireland I can feel your pain and i genuinely sympathise, being a Habs fan I can understand that pain respect :)

"Offense wins games. Defense wins championships"-Bear Bryant. Leafs win a lot of games...

Nothing screams professionalism than streaming from your bedroom with an unmade bed 🤣

The shooter is always the goalies. You take away the pass...every time. We learned this when we were 7

Very different from the last LFR video. Steve just seemed to have his hopes crushed. Here he almost shows disdain for the Leafs. I mean, I get it. It's just a side I haven't seen before.

love the fact that steve watches chris smoove lmao

as a devils fan the rangers getting laf has ruined my day so glad i can laugh at the leafs a little, thanks for the clutch SDP boys!

Steve: How often do you tell a team they have to redo their d-core Me: Ask the Winnipeg Jets, They’ve only got Morrissey, Pionk and Some Icey pole sticks

Steve expressed exactly how I’ve felt since seeing the game 3 self destruct mode. Adam’s 100% correct, it’s over!! Thank you boys for airing out exactly how I and I’m sure many others feel.

guys, you have to keep the faith - as hard as that is at times - i'm a Liverpool fan since 1981 (when they were winning everything regularly) and i've just, this season, watched them win the league for the first time in 30 years.... just sayin' . respect :)

The Press L1 comment is gold.. 😂😂😂😂

Agree with most of what you guys said. This team will not go places with how the roster is currently laid out. Blue line needs an overhaul whether that be threw a trade or signings and more physicality and strength in the top 9.

Idk why I’m still a Leafs fan. I’m not even surprised about the loss yesterday.

There is no hockey god for the Loafs, just the Curse of Harold Ballard.

was really hoping a podcast like this wouldn’t happen...but here we are. praying for a big change on that god awful blue line and some more experience up front. until next year boys. let’s go

more years of pain woooooooooooooooooo

Remember early in the season when they said Freddy should win the Vezina

Spezza played with more heart in the last two games then Mitch and Willy combined

I love how Adam and Jesse laughed at Steve when he said if the leafs lose this series, you have to blow it up and thought he was being dramatic at how bad the team really is.

Did Steve just say Chris Smoove? Thats a blast from the past. I remember watching his smoove moves from MW3

You guys are great.. and Steve I feel you man after only watching 3 minutes of this i have decided I can't do it. (I will watch this... but in a few months) Thank you for keeping my passion for this hockey team some company throughout these really weird times.. ✌

Assessing Ceci in a vacuum instead of against Zaitsev is a flawed argument.

Ceci was probably playing with karlsson when he scored 10

47:04 HOW HAVE THE PLAYERS THANKED DUBAS WITH THEIR ACTIONS

I was not prepared for this intervention Steve put us through

The Sharks and Maple Leafs can solve each other's weaknesses. If you catch my drift...

The year Cody Ceci scored 10 goals... i could be wrong but im pretty sure it was Erik Karlsson as his partner, like when he wasn't injury prone and was like one of the best in the league

Never pegged Steve as a hockey atheist.

That’s putting it very nicely about Jack Johnson Steve.

Jesse with the logic ... THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!!!!!!

Such a well thought out discussion today guys! It's so sad that we as a fan base had so much excitement 4 years ago and things have only gone down hill since. Who would of thought?

as much as i'm looking forward to and happy that Montreal are in the playoffs, i'm realistic enough to know that it'll probably be a short ride but hey... it's the playoffs, anything can happen right. hard to listen to the pain but enjoyable show as always guys respect :)

Bang on with the analysis, guys. This was hard, heavy but everything you said was fair. Mitch has fallen from grace and it's the doing of his own camp - he tries really hard but that contract demands the moon and stars. Morgan, from my vantage point on my couch, has been the captain for several years now - no piece of fabric will signify otherwise. I would love to see Spezza back. Freddy has been great but he is not the answer going forward - sell high and sell now. I would be completely okay going with Jack Campbell next season - I thought he was really fun to watch and just why not?

Steve was reminiscing about THE 2013 MAPLE LEAFS. That’s how you know it’s bad

The show was mentioned on Tim and Sid!

People don't like Marner because he wants 11 million AAV and he's a 8.5-9 million-dollar player. I'm sorry but the Marner we saw this year and in the playoffs isn't even that he was a 7 million dollar player and Nylander is an 8-9 million dollar player. I didn't foresee that but I said when Nylander signed his contract that I was fine with Nylander's contract and I said over and over that I was concerned With Marners contract because everyone was assigning him value based on one season. This argument about Marincin is stupid because He's not a full-time player. For a fill-in guy on a 2-way contract He did fine but you guys think what you want. He's gotta be good enough to fill in and clear waivers. The entire team refuses to play a system. They want to play the NHL the way people play the AHL. No direction, no plan, no reasoning, no communication, no defence. They are directed by the coach on how to play and they vehemently refuse to play that way. Whoever is the biggest problem with taking the direction and you sink their career. It sounds bad but they are screwing up this team so you put them in the press box and leave them there an if it's Mitch you pay him 11 million dollars to sit in the press box and you ask the rest of the team who wants to join him. Make sure he doesn't train or do a damn thing until he will never make another team ever again and you buy him out. Strike the fear of God into the players and say this is your coach and if you won't be coached we will end your career. Willy tries hard, wants to play, listens, and takes direction. If you trade Nylander trade Everyone including Matthews because you're rebuilding again because you're trading one of three guys who will take direction and no other player is. Matthews, Nylander and Rielly take direction.

Mathews played that must win game like he was at a morning skate

Ayyyy, Steve with the Smoove shoutout

Top ten goalies RIGHT NOW: 1. Hellebuyk 2. Rask 3. Vasilevsky 4. Bishop 5. Markstrom 6. Kuemper 7. Korpisalo 8. Gurbauer 9. Merzlinkins 10. Holtby

We're all guilty of hyping up the new analytics-driven, Dubas philosophy of building a hockey team and we have nothing to show for it. What a reckoning we face.

Congrats Jesse on your engagement. Very happy for you and the future Mrs. Blake. Best wishes.

Rewatching during the Leafs first round against the Habs in order to prepare my soul for their inevitable upset elimination

LoL " LOOK AT ME LEAFS WIN WAS HALF MY LIFETIME AGO " 🤣

Great show as always guys..I think you dissected this series, this season and this team perfectly. Terribly disappointing, hoping for some changes before next season.

26:00 Steve wonders who Ceci was playing with to get 10 goals? That is 100% a byproduct of the sens running there entire offense through there right side D at the time. Reason? Erik Karlsson played like 30 minutes a game. I just checked, and based on ATOI alone... it would have been DION PHANEUF

AYYYY I LOVE THE CHRIS SMOOVE REFERENCE STEVE 2:15

You can trade Tavares. Several teams almost signed him for equal or more. Marner isn’t unmovable if you moved kessel

A question I have is why don't you fire the goaltending development and start over. Which goaltender have they given the tools to be the best they can be.

From an outside observer, this is exactly what every other fan base told you when you first signed Tavares and then gave Marner and Nylander their extensions, you put all your chips into your offense and said we will just outscore everyone and have a patchwork defense and we will win. The problem is that some other NHL teams can shut down your top line from time to time and what happens when they do that. The Leafs showed they don't have depth scoring. When you don't properly address your defense, you end up with Cody Ceci as one of your defenders. I get that Muzzin was injured but still. I didn't think Berrie was bad but Ceci and Marincin were dreadful and when you add the fact that Columbus was able to shut down your scorers for two games out of a five game series, you have problems. The Caps went through this when we had Semin and some decent pieces but when teams like Montreal shut down our best scorers and top line, we didn't have depth scoring to make up for it. We also didn't have a very good defense. We had Green but he was more an offensive defenseman than a defensive defenseman and we had Tom Poti who was okay but wasn't as good as we thought he was. We thought we would breeze through the playoffs with our offense and win a Cup...and then he ran into a hot goalie and a stifling defense and we were out in the first round. You guys did the same thing we did and I distinctly remember Steve's video when the Leafs signed Tavares where when people brought up the lack of defense he said that they would just score more goals than the other teams. The Leafs have a good core but they WAY overpaid for some of them and now tough decisions need to be made or this team won't move forward. I would love to have kept Mike Green, Mike Knuble, Marcus Johansson and many others but we couldn't because of the cap. The Leafs need to make some tough decisions. I think Nylander is the most likely person to go. You'll probably find a taker for his contract and he has value. I don't see anyone taking Marner, not for his cap hit. The Leafs WAY overpaid him. I wish they had won because the Toronto fans deserve to have a winning team but they have painted themselves into a corner and now they need to figure a way out and the only way out means making some tough choices.

I agree with you about only Matthews being the players you don’t trade. TOR needs cap desperately though, and even if they wanted to, I don’t think any team will want Tavares, Marner, or Nylander (51% of total salary cap- with Matthews) at the price they are signed to- at least not in a deal that TOR would see as beneficial. There are some teams that would take them just to gain a good player, but it would have to be treated like a cap dump at their prices. The only somewhat likely option is a trade that slightly favors the other team, but the Leafs would have to retain between $2.5-4m- which the Leafs won’t do. I’ve been looking over this a lot the past couple days... the Leafs have $4.1m next year to re-sign: Mikhayev, Ceci, Barrie, Clifford, Malgin, Dermott, Spezza, and Gauthier. Jack Campbell’s salary goes up by $1m next year. Dermott and Mikhayev I assume they want to re-sign at least. Dermott will probably get $1.5m (650k increase), Mikhayev will probably get $5m ($4.1m increase), and all of those other players would have to be replaced at league minimum- and they’d have to move some money still. Ceci and Barrie are the only two who make more than league minimum out of those guys, but their $7m total doesn’t make up the $14.3m over the cap that the Leafs are right now, and is already factored into the fact they’ll only have $4.1m in cap space. If you were to sign other players to fill Ceci and Barries spots (assume 2nd pairing), you probably save from $0-1.5m. If you want to keep any of the league minimum players, they probably get small increases, but even if you re-signed all those positions at league minimum, the Leafs are $16.3-17.8m over the cap if they want to re-sign Mikhayev (assuming $5m) and they need to sign 3 D, and 4 more F in addition to him.

I think I have to agree with Alyssa Hope here and say that, what the leafs are missing is a mixture of Depth and a funny little thing called Grit. Grit and Depth are the main difference between regular season teams and playoff teams

i thought it was play-in, not play-off, for this round

We knew this was going to happen. Adam was saying that they would do the podcast around leafs games, but not for long because Toronto probably wouldn't last long. We knew.

Despite what these bums have to say, Andersen was the deciding factor in this series. Before you all scream about his numbers being decent, the game winning goal in game 1 and the second goal in 1-0 game in game 5 in the third period were soft goals that sunk our team. Regardless of how he did the rest of the game, the guy across from him did better on both those occasions, and let in 2 soft goals, and in a series were we got outscored 10-9 at 5v5, it was the deciding factor that titled it in Columbus' favour. Moreover, go look at game 7 in 2018 and 2019 against Boston as objectively as possible, and just count the number of soft goals that he lets in. He's the main reason we cant win a clinching game, consistently giving up soft goals in untimely points will cost us

The Experts Agree----A diamond encrusted Lambo+First round exit Is Better Than A gold-plated Lambo+An extra 4 Million dollar D-man.

Offensively gifted talent is also incredibly expensive contractwise. Those stacked defensive teams seem to have an easier time with salary structure

I don't think many of you understand that during playoff hockey there isn't many of these pretty goals. goals are scored by throwing the puck low on the goal and crashing the net hard for a rebound. That is something the Leafs are not built for and you see the result. It's just facts. Most of CBJ's goals were either deflected off someone or the crash the net hard. That's how you're suppose to score goals in these close games

Fully agree with the point about liking your group! Penguins get swept by the islanders and we curse them out but we still like the group and their identity. They lose to the Habs, we curse out decisions, certain players, certain plays, but i still like the group. I like the Jets group, i like the Stars group, i like the Isles group. Who doesn't love the canes group? theres something rotten in the leafs group and i don't know where it stems from but they are not likeable

Do we have to? Adam kicking this pod off with a bang.

1:37 Steve: "It was supposed to be the summer of George"

Sorry guys, I don't understand how the Chris Tanev/Canucks celebration to knock off the Wild didn't even get a mentioned here

I would take a look with the leafs at what the flyers had to do 3-5 years ago. Start drafting and bringing in a couple strong prospect defensiveman and surround them with a couple good vet d men. Give up those 3rd line forwards to relieve cap space and start building for 2022 and 2023

Most "emotional" fan base

You know who Toronto could have used in that series? Connor Brown... oh wait that's right he was a toss in piece given to the Sens for Ceci. How'd that workout?

I needed that like a backpack full of weights

At 25 this is all i know. No need to be depressed, its just another year

Having a gripe with Andersen because he's not top 10 is a wild take, all i care about my goalie is that hes top 31 (soon 32), obviously higher th ebetter but as long as goalie is a clear starter its just about them getting hot at the right time.

trading away players that genuinely put an effort ex. hyman is one way to drive the respect of your franchise to the ground

No sleep squad! 3:27 am here in Russia. This should be good

I say it takes 5 years to build an nhl team... leafs should start again from top to bottom and see who wants to really commit to the teams legacy Lets honestly see if Toronto Maple leafs can be a successful franchise in the modern era.

Everything happens for a reason

Just wondering. Leafs took on lehner’s cap hit of 1.5m fro him to head to Vegas. Since the leafs have paid out a lot of the players salaries up front. Can they move portions of players cap hits to other teams in trades? (To teams that won’t need to actually pay money out, just absorb the hit)

My most anticipated Episode personally

I strongly believe Hyman is one our best players he completes a top 6 line and needs someone to help him imo him Matthews and Morgan stay

Here’s what I’d like to see next season. Soup/ Tavares/ Marner Mango/ Matthews/ Hyman Roberson/ blank/ kappy Engvall/ spezza/ blank(grinder) Extras bracco/ brooks Rielly/ blank Muzzin/ liljegren Sandin/ holl Freddie/ Campbell I say trade Willy or possibly marner for a parayko type guy who can play with mo. Throw in dermott/kerfoot/bracco if that would get it done. Would like to see dermott stay but if it means we got a big upgrade like parayko I’d do it in a heartbeat. Also keep mango for now while his value is low and maybe trade him next deadline if he’s still not working out and move Robertson up at that point. We need another stud defence man desperately and they can’t be smaller puck moving guys. Also wouldn’t hate if Clifford stayed on that 4th line if it didn’t cost much salary but that second round pick is steep for a replaceable guy. No idea what to do about that 3rd line centre but a tough defensive style guy would be ideal for me

"What is it that about this team that cannot weather the storm?" LEADERSHIP

To remind you, the Justin Holl signing on New Years Eve was because the Leafs were @ Minnesota and Justin Holl is from Minnesota. Dubas and Keefe both like making meaningful moments. It was the exact opposite of the Babcock/Spezza Home Opener vs Ottawa. So quibble about price+term if you wish, but the date was pretty reasonable.

I disagree with Jesse. You can't compare the NBA to the nhl when it comes to seeding going into the playoffs. Looks at last year. The blues were the worst team in the nhl the first two months, turned it around got into the playoffs and won the cup. La kings first cup of there dynasty they were the 8th seed in the west. When was the last time the 8th seed won a NBA championship? I agree the leafs aren't good but you can't use the NBA to draw that conclusion.

Who was the coach that they said should come run Toronto's Offence? I remember it happening, I forget who they said and I can't find it.

ceci gets paid 4.5M 🤣🤣🤣🤣 lets all think about that 😂😂😆

WE LOST TO A ZAMBONI DRIVER!

Mitch Marner scored 26 goals, 94 points last season | 4 points in 7 play-off games Mitch Marner had a pace for 22 goals, 93 points this season... | 4 points in 5 play-off games Points are not everything, duh! but...saying that you guys should trade Mitch Marner because his season sucked or something.....yeah no....soft or not, or what ever, your team didn't sucked because of Mitch Marner!!!.

Nylander for Ellis. Speak it into existence

And we can also see what Mac Howell is all about to for the defence players to

Glad Laine signed that bridge deal...

i think, and youll never catch my defending patrick k*ne ever again, he still produces on his own.

Marner's contract is absolutely movable to a floor team once his bonus is paid. And in fact, this.. the SECOND year of the deal is actually the easiest year to trade because he makes league min and actual dollars paid for every subsequent year is much closer to market value, below 9M. Marner's camp couldn't imagine a scenario where he could be considered a trade piece after 1 year but now he definitely is and they need to cash out on him immediately.

No leafs hater could ever possibly hate the leafs as much as a leafs fan hates the leafs.

Shoutout to Chris Smoove!!! Anyone else remember his COD videos?

So, if you CAN’T move Marner or JT’s contracts... don’t you HAVE to move Matthews? Changes obviously NEED to be made, so what do you do?

Yeah man people always talk about our high powered offense and it was completely invisible this series. Couldnt play defense or score... its time to make a huge roster shake up, this isnt working.

The leafs big contracts are so heavy front loaded that in actuality there is not that much actual money to pay but teams that have trouble spending to the cap floor! And trust me marner will get the most back for