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Sakha is the home to Pik Pobeda, the highest mountain in Siberia, and where apinists Tamara Lunger and Simone Moro attempted the first ever winter ascent of the frozen monolith. Discover more: bit.ly/TheNorthfaceYT
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@Sporty_Charters
@Sporty_Charters 4 года назад
The dude who jumped in the river to dig his bus out with no gloves was the most interesting thing that happened.
@Wizzm957
@Wizzm957 4 года назад
Pretty sure he met them at the peak wearing only a hawaiian shirt and flops.
@eladioredin2124
@eladioredin2124 4 года назад
Humilliating climbers not even trying to do so =D
@bizzybugseverywhere7801
@bizzybugseverywhere7801 4 года назад
he knows if he dosnt get it done quick , the problem will grow , theres no choice . get it done
@katieverhulst9182
@katieverhulst9182 3 года назад
yeah,,,how did they just breeze over that so quickly??!
@karakich
@karakich 3 года назад
he had no other chance to get out from the ice trap. becouse in such situation the count goes for minutes
@abhijit_birje
@abhijit_birje 4 года назад
3:40 The driver is wearing a t-shirt! 😯 Such a badass!
@aestheticsabotage5098
@aestheticsabotage5098 4 года назад
Dude, it was *only* minus 5° in the car
@tamisbraaf5591
@tamisbraaf5591 4 года назад
@@aestheticsabotage5098 dude, like only -5. That's nothing... Here in Belgium it rarely goes below 0 and if it does I'm still freezing in my hoodie, t-shirt and jacket. This dude is in a t-shirt in -5 degrees, that's badass
@lucabevilacqua1001
@lucabevilacqua1001 3 года назад
Incredibile!!!!😳😳😳
@Jaro.Travel
@Jaro.Travel 3 года назад
summer for him...
@frankblangeard8865
@frankblangeard8865 3 месяца назад
He's in a vehicle with a heated interior. @@aestheticsabotage5098
@BRACALONEBORDINTEAM
@BRACALONEBORDINTEAM 5 лет назад
What a man, moving ice blocks with bare hands and water until your knees could kill you in 3 minutes. Not him, i think before jumping in the ice he said hold my beer please.
@turnpike
@turnpike 4 года назад
*hold my vodka please
@joshlockie9285
@joshlockie9285 4 года назад
Wim Hof has proven this wrong. Just breathe.
@sofers2069
@sofers2069 4 года назад
@@bixby9797 а ты где живешь?
@bizzybugseverywhere7801
@bizzybugseverywhere7801 4 года назад
he didnt say please
@artyparty_av
@artyparty_av 3 года назад
@@joshlockie9285 Just breathe, like lmao bro its just hypothermia (/s...)
@MichalOlender
@MichalOlender 4 года назад
incredible guys, well done, thank you for taking us with you.
@finnblu3002
@finnblu3002 5 лет назад
What an environment - The local population seemingly merits a separate dedicated focus
@manadaalpina
@manadaalpina 5 лет назад
Tamara and Simone you are the best... Thanks to share this adventures with us... frome México!
@mmorbiolo
@mmorbiolo 3 года назад
PLEASE, more videos from Simone Moro expeditions, and great Respect to Tamara Lungen. GRANDIIII
@lucabevilacqua1001
@lucabevilacqua1001 3 года назад
Beh Simone e Tamara si conoscono sono dei grandi si sa, ma il tipo che guida il furgone a 3:40 che e' in maglietta? Ne vogliamo parlare? Assurdo! Ciao.
@katief7047
@katief7047 4 года назад
It’s really mind blowing how large Russia is
@LightSpearX
@LightSpearX 4 года назад
Did you know that departing from Montreal, Quebec, Canada, it is faster to get to Paris, France than to get to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada? Really put the scale of country in perspective. :P
@katief7047
@katief7047 4 года назад
Fuseey I know Canada is big, I never said it wasn’t, but Russia is about 2x larger lol either way they’re both impressive. I mean the US is large too..about the same as Canada, but it’s just hard to comprehend having THAT much land as Russia does
@cvn6555
@cvn6555 4 года назад
@ElijahMFearon Well most of theirs is covered with ice 364 days of the year and totally useless. They have always had a need for warm-water ports.
@cvn6555
@cvn6555 4 года назад
@@LightSpearX Great Circle Route? You're also flying opposite the Earth's rotation rather than it working against you.
@BigBadSerbianWolf
@BigBadSerbianWolf 4 года назад
Almost 2.5 times the size of US
@andreaskrause
@andreaskrause 5 лет назад
You can see two Western-Europan people, fully geared by Northface and still freezing, while the locals just have non high tech stuff and seem very comfortable. :D
@michaelshoyhin512
@michaelshoyhin512 5 лет назад
Andreas Krause they are most likely more acclimated to the temperature
@marycaats
@marycaats 5 лет назад
Locals are using completely different materials for their clothes. Only natural materials like animals' fur, leather, wool and down are able to save local people from extreme temperatures and wind. Such clothes is extra-warm, but usually is very heavy and not really suitable for high activity like sport.
@Eric-ux7uy
@Eric-ux7uy 5 лет назад
@@marycaats years of living in that climate develops substantial brownfat reserves. Their bodies are much more resistant to cold
@0fg4
@0fg4 5 лет назад
Just to be fair, if I ever go climbing such mountain, I'll take lightweight high tech stuff over warm but heavy fur coat.
@pikiwiki
@pikiwiki 4 года назад
you could say the locals live there and were used to it. As opposed to others coming from close to sea level..
@loameer
@loameer 5 лет назад
I liked the video but I wish more were said about the people living in such harsh conditions
@Mordwand
@Mordwand 5 лет назад
The documentary Happy People: A year in Taiga is exactly what you are looking for :)
@REVOLUTIONS51
@REVOLUTIONS51 5 лет назад
Yeah, I'm Shure with proper training those could summit Everest like it was a stroll in the park...
@temaz3334
@temaz3334 5 лет назад
In a few words: they has a stallion balls)
@sofers2069
@sofers2069 4 года назад
@@Mordwand ГОд??? один год?? так мало? я тут всю жизнь живу
@MrSafer
@MrSafer 4 года назад
north face don't give a shit about the dirty local natives. they wanna sell their china made bullshit jackets to tweens
@a.s429
@a.s429 4 года назад
moro n1, un alpinista incredibile, ti segue da tempo e rimango sempre sorpreso quando vedo un tuo video! continua cosi piccolo GRANDE uomo!!!!!
@osotniellopez4
@osotniellopez4 5 лет назад
Nothing better than getting home from work and watching some TNF expedition videos😌
@TheMountainRambler
@TheMountainRambler 5 лет назад
Amazing challenge! Great adventure in our modern times.
@maddrunn
@maddrunn 2 года назад
From start to finish, this was amazing!
@michaelmontalvo5757
@michaelmontalvo5757 4 года назад
This video is an inspiration. Thank you.
@RahulBonnerjee
@RahulBonnerjee 5 лет назад
I'm gonna stop complaining about the cold in Detroit now. Thanks for the perspective y'all! XP
@Friendsshare
@Friendsshare 3 года назад
You live in Detroit. You get a pass.
@nall8387
@nall8387 5 лет назад
-71.3°c... Sometimes in the morning it gets as cold as 19°c and I won't leave my bed...
@johonanandrewgomes7593
@johonanandrewgomes7593 4 года назад
Well that's not official the official record is -67.8C
@SB-kz9mq
@SB-kz9mq 4 года назад
it got to -36.1C where im from earlier this january
@GiulyZanga
@GiulyZanga 5 лет назад
Fenomenali a sopportare un freddo simile! Quello che impressiona di più è che questa montagna è "fuori dal mondo"! Grande impresa, bravissimi! Un saluto Giuly Zanga
@poco2s
@poco2s 5 лет назад
Magic. So inspiring!
@leannhenley7949
@leannhenley7949 5 лет назад
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@gabriellaminelli2717
@gabriellaminelli2717 2 года назад
Bravissimi Tamara e Simone che posti lasciano senza fiato
@Tony-fp7cg
@Tony-fp7cg 4 года назад
Inspirational to say the least !!! Thank you for sharing.
@graficadelfin
@graficadelfin 3 года назад
Fenomenali a sopportare un freddo simile! Quello che impressiona di più è che questa montagna è "fuori dal mondo"! Grande impresa, bravissimi! Un saluto Giuly Zanga
@thedavidbrother2
@thedavidbrother2 4 года назад
Nice video! Great and exotic surroundings, I could feel the cold all through the screen....
@andynguyen3837
@andynguyen3837 3 года назад
You can see two Western-Europan people, fully geared by Northface and still freezing, while the locals just have non high tech stuff and seem very comfortable. :D
@ettoreruggeri5863
@ettoreruggeri5863 5 лет назад
Spettacolare!!!
@francarenda
@francarenda 5 лет назад
Siete fantastici...vi invidio e vi stimo!!! Quando rinascerò mi darò anch’io alla esplorazione 👍😀👏
@gunjanisalien
@gunjanisalien 5 лет назад
Impossible to think an attempt like this, that you achieved. Salut.
@user-nr3if2ly5e
@user-nr3if2ly5e Год назад
Thanks for this video, it's amazing:)
@doruksimsek3636
@doruksimsek3636 5 лет назад
Nothing but respect..
@amyril
@amyril 5 лет назад
Great advice from the living legend.
@nets_sten
@nets_sten 3 года назад
Maravilloso ! Tamara, all the love for you!
@epincion
@epincion 5 лет назад
Stunning thanks.
@ellisbrigham
@ellisbrigham 5 лет назад
Amazing exploration!
@NERODIA3
@NERODIA3 5 лет назад
che invidia ragazzi, sia per il posto che per la vostra performance!!!!!!!!
@darcyoneill9377
@darcyoneill9377 2 года назад
Well done; and so beautiful there.
@DMWBN3
@DMWBN3 3 года назад
It is a balmy 55 in England today, and my friend & I were sat outside having a coffee. We moved indoors, as we found it a bit cold when the sun went in. Proper weather weaklings!!! Respect to these adventurous people. "Your car is broken, maybe you are dead"
@GhostX42
@GhostX42 4 года назад
i would love to live there. 10 months of winter? sounds like a dream.
@sdgagnon2297
@sdgagnon2297 5 лет назад
absolute mad lads!
@matte_ferro
@matte_ferro Год назад
Amazing!
@jhman9901
@jhman9901 5 лет назад
Sei eccezionale, anche con quella pronuncia! Sei uno dei miei pochi eroi.
@fiveten5.108
@fiveten5.108 5 лет назад
Thanks simone an friend for other peak you inspire me to push harder 🇬🇧
@science4fun
@science4fun 5 лет назад
Bellissimo!
@TheMountainQueen
@TheMountainQueen 3 года назад
Another Interesting Mountain!..
@altboy79
@altboy79 4 года назад
Great adventure, thanks a lot for sharing nad giving courage to others ;-)
@ThatEssentialAttire
@ThatEssentialAttire 5 лет назад
Incredible
@danijelmakar2097
@danijelmakar2097 4 года назад
Best video ever..
@kobyoku6110
@kobyoku6110 5 лет назад
Amazing video! This really does encourage me to do more with my life.
@catherineromero5837
@catherineromero5837 5 лет назад
Coco
@garrettk7166
@garrettk7166 4 года назад
1 year later: what more have you done with your life?
@akshaynarwade7655
@akshaynarwade7655 3 года назад
Excellent question 2 yr and still busy doing I guess
@nicoladegiuseppe8354
@nicoladegiuseppe8354 4 года назад
Bravissimi, complimenti
@Rashid-un2ql
@Rashid-un2ql 3 года назад
From the Karakorum. Love and support
@glorious_help
@glorious_help 4 года назад
WELL SHOT.... WELL DONE TO THE CAMERA GUYS..... AND THE EDITORS
@sonny5068
@sonny5068 5 лет назад
Beautiful
@thomasdecarlo8543
@thomasdecarlo8543 Год назад
Nuts … absolute crazy with brave …kudos … you are trailblazers ..
@555gtx9
@555gtx9 5 лет назад
Привет из России! )Шикарное видео !)
@richardtodd5418
@richardtodd5418 3 года назад
-40 and the drivers wearing a t shirt...tough guys live in those conditions yearly...love it
@lucabevilacqua1001
@lucabevilacqua1001 3 года назад
Incredibile!! 😳😳👍
@vascoamaralgrilo
@vascoamaralgrilo 3 года назад
Thanks! I´ve been to Peak Lenin Camp 3, and it was hard... However, the experience unlocked states I am not used to, which I find interesting.
@monomadventures
@monomadventures 3 года назад
Woa, great adventure
@LRafdan
@LRafdan 5 лет назад
Magic
@simonbrizard3426
@simonbrizard3426 5 лет назад
Unreal.
@jhojanrueda6393
@jhojanrueda6393 3 года назад
Me ha encantado, hermoso documental de estas personas en uno de los lugares mas inhóspitos de la tierra, los admiro, saludos desde Colombia.
@danielr.7137
@danielr.7137 5 лет назад
What a great place for climbing. Thanks for sharing your awesome story with us.
@MelindaGreen
@MelindaGreen 4 года назад
Yey, we were the first to climb this mountain, and this monument put here by others, proves it!
@Astr0b0y8
@Astr0b0y8 5 лет назад
What an adventure!
@nerdpirate
@nerdpirate 4 года назад
So here's a question. At 1:35 it looks like Tamara is wearing the Summit L3 Down Hoodie, but it seems this is either a prototype or something that's just not for sale to the general public, because her jacket has the Gore-Tex logo. As far as I know, the Summit L3 doesn't have Gore-Tex, which is a real shame because the lack of a waterproof membrane is the only drawback from a jacket that is otherwise the pinnacle of perfection. In fact, that's why I returned mine. So my question is: TNF, why aren't you selling this to the public?!?!
@000cpike
@000cpike 5 лет назад
Pik Pobeda (Пик Победы) is in the Tian Shan mountain range in Kyrgyzstan. This mountain correctly translated from Russian should be called Pobeda Mountain (Победа (гора)). It is also not the highest mountain in Siberia. Belukha Mountain (Гора Белуха) in the Altai range is 4506 meters. Munku-Sardyk (Мунку-Сардык) in the Sayan range is 3491 meters.
@deannilvalli6579
@deannilvalli6579 5 лет назад
Thanks, I was about to point this out. I was there a few years ago.
@kto3412
@kto3412 4 года назад
The mountain in the Tian Shan mountain range is called Pik Pobedy. In the video they did not say it was the highest mountain in Siberia, but in the Siberian Artic Polar Circle. Then in the description they got it wrong obviously...
@MrSuperAtaman
@MrSuperAtaman 4 года назад
@@kto3412 Not. Still Victory Peak, which is located in Yakutia in Russia ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0_(%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0)
@MrSuperAtaman
@MrSuperAtaman 4 года назад
ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0_(%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0) Пик Победы и Пик Победа - это разные горы.
@ProSpeedflying
@ProSpeedflying 5 лет назад
So as I understood the bulldozers are staying everywhere in Siberia and ready to help? :-)
@megachel999
@megachel999 5 лет назад
most likely the bulldozer is always here. Earn money by helping cars
@makeaneffort3775
@makeaneffort3775 5 лет назад
...and then there was a bulldozer.
@aha8718
@aha8718 5 лет назад
Pro Speedflying No, they are not everywhere, I even could say that they are not there at all. I think it was made for the film
@alexanderdeyev8697
@alexanderdeyev8697 5 лет назад
@@aha8718 it was sarcasm :-)
@93Pietro2009
@93Pietro2009 5 лет назад
There was a river unfrozen with craks, and the bulldozer was trying to make a "ground bridge" so that the car could go trough, thats why the bulldozer was there. Everething is explained in the book of Simone :)
@delightrie
@delightrie 5 лет назад
Wow!
@kornvondorn5275
@kornvondorn5275 5 лет назад
Hey guys from NorthFace! Pobeda is NOT the highest mountain in Siberia. The highest mountain in Siberia is Belukha, 4509 m. Pobeda is the highest point of Yakutia (the region of Russia which is geographically not even Siberia). Guys, you should be more careful with data.
@astrodomine708
@astrodomine708 5 лет назад
Well, if you wanna talk about data, Belukha is not the highest point in Siberia. It's a volcano in Kamchatka Peninsula.
@user-gp2no9fw8r
@user-gp2no9fw8r 5 лет назад
@@astrodomine708 Kamchatka is located in the Far East region. You could be surprised but Far East is not Siberia. ​So Кола Бельды is right and Belukha is the highest mountain in Siberia.
@astrodomine708
@astrodomine708 5 лет назад
​@@user-gp2no9fw8r You're right too, but Siberia is also a geographical region and its highest point is indeed that volcano from Kamchatka.
@user-gp2no9fw8r
@user-gp2no9fw8r 5 лет назад
​@@astrodomine708 I know that people beyond Russia often don't see the difference. And maybe traditionally the Far East could be called Siberia too. But it is some kind of stereotype now. Actually we distinguish these two terms in Russia :) And people from the Russian Far East can be upset about calling them Siberians :)
@astrodomine708
@astrodomine708 5 лет назад
@@user-gp2no9fw8r I understand that there's Siberia as a political region but Siberia is also a much larger geographical region (just look it up on Wikipedia), maybe not accepted by everyone but still...
@dmitryzhukov9420
@dmitryzhukov9420 5 лет назад
There is another Peak Pobeda in the Northern Hemisphere - in Central Tyan Shan. And it is also the coldest among 7K+ peaks.
@mirekkowalski2284
@mirekkowalski2284 5 лет назад
Clicking on this video I was expecting that one!
@p4v31
@p4v31 4 года назад
Они хотели подняться в полярном круге.
@albertorip
@albertorip 5 лет назад
Fantastico.
@rageoid
@rageoid 4 года назад
Whoa - TOAL before you even get to the real trip - yes, mind indeed blown !
@piotrmarek1982
@piotrmarek1982 5 лет назад
Driver is a hero! He shouls go with You 😃
@shabixs
@shabixs Год назад
I'm watching open mouth this episode! 😮
@qutodiamum
@qutodiamum 5 лет назад
Amazing 😉
@leoingson
@leoingson 5 лет назад
Thanks for the (german) subs!!
@Bettarunner
@Bettarunner 5 лет назад
Bellissimo! Mi sarebbe piaciuto un film vero e proprio 👍🏼
@g.w.7893
@g.w.7893 4 года назад
01:55 - You can SEE the cold.
@R3n0_0
@R3n0_0 5 лет назад
Приезжайте на Урал ❤
@awanderer9000
@awanderer9000 3 года назад
Observations of how locals live there are more interesting than the climb itself...
@andreaviviani7980
@andreaviviani7980 4 года назад
AHHAHAHA apro il video senza guardare chi fossero i protagonisti e sento chiaramente una pronuncia bergamasca. Mitico Moro ahahah
@IvoMarcos1
@IvoMarcos1 5 лет назад
É muito bom ver isso!
@FantasticalRahul
@FantasticalRahul 4 года назад
Nice journey
@travelwithadeel
@travelwithadeel 4 года назад
You guys are amazing "love from Pakistan"
@speakofhisgrace
@speakofhisgrace 4 года назад
Watching on my heatplanket
@fergalfarrelly8545
@fergalfarrelly8545 4 года назад
I love this climate. It's very much like Canadas north here. Yet we had two weeks of minus 35 to minus 40°C and now its only -5°C. It warmed right up and is slushy not dry. I prefer the cold and dry weather. We dress for it. We prepare for it. The muskeg wich is swamp in summer is hard and frozen in winter and the land opens up to us wich is inaccessible in summer. All logging is done in winter. All the winter roads open and are maintaned. We can cross all rivers and lakes. If the car breaks down we have preperations for that. You just need to prepare properly and the land gives us what we need. A small portable shelter and wood stove can work miracles.
@giggilatrottola825
@giggilatrottola825 5 лет назад
Simone moro sei un treno !!!
@romulus7739
@romulus7739 4 года назад
I wish all big climbs were more of an adventure like this. Something that isn't simply a well beaten path that you follow and do what so many around you and before you have done. That is why I might do the Annapurna circuit one day, but EBC or many other paths have little interest to me.
@27bressi
@27bressi 5 лет назад
TOP!!!!!
@1963skanz
@1963skanz 5 лет назад
Fantastica serata ieri a Sesto San Giovanni, con Simone e Tamara a raccontare questa straordinaria avventura in un luogo pazzesco. Bravissimi e umili, per niente "gasati" e disponibilissimi nel dopo serata a fare foto con i fans e firmare autografi. Grazie Sergio
@monikaschnabler8872
@monikaschnabler8872 4 месяца назад
CONGRATULATION
@abyju05
@abyju05 4 года назад
Simone..Simone...love u man
@winu1981
@winu1981 4 года назад
I normally start to feel the chill at 22’c in my city , @ -71 ‘c I would be frozen dead like a glass bottle in a minute 😂😂
@user-xp1cr1sz5g
@user-xp1cr1sz5g 4 года назад
grazie
@williampowhida572
@williampowhida572 4 года назад
Molto bene!!
@mahibisht5065
@mahibisht5065 4 года назад
Nice
@aquaticborealis4877
@aquaticborealis4877 5 лет назад
That's a stunning place. Somewhere I'd love to visit. Any polar bears up there?
@onurvrc7614
@onurvrc7614 4 года назад
The north face 🐾🇹🇷
@emiliosantonatos5696
@emiliosantonatos5696 3 года назад
He must be very KOURIOUS
@Rain-jx1po
@Rain-jx1po 5 лет назад
Beautiful video, but it would have been nice to know how cold it was at the summit. It would also be interesting to see how it compares to the temperatures at the summits of Antarctic mountains.
@REVOLUTIONS51
@REVOLUTIONS51 5 лет назад
Much much colder. Really.
@erinc9391
@erinc9391 5 лет назад
Alan arnette blogged about it earlier this year. www.alanarnette.com/blog/2018/02/05/historic-k2-and-everest-winter-climbs-staying-patient/
@IacopoCutino00
@IacopoCutino00 5 лет назад
-70 c
@pikiwiki
@pikiwiki 4 года назад
how enjoyable to hear Italian people speak English with Italian expressions
@Karthik-kt24
@Karthik-kt24 5 лет назад
It's December (winter) and it's 24°C here and I complain that it's very cold 😅😅
@joshuaforester
@joshuaforester 4 года назад
-73C on Denali. Both mountains cooooolllllldddd
@imdmotcm8953
@imdmotcm8953 4 года назад
-78C on Logan Canada.
@andynguyen3837
@andynguyen3837 3 года назад
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