It's not "our bar", it's the bar that Trump and his joke of an administration put down. If you'll allow the reference; if there had been elections in 1940's Germany, you wouldn't have demeaned Jewish people for saying "We'd vote for anyone that isn't Hitler". What I'm saying is that our bar isn't "that low", Trump is just "that bad".
Pocket Heart Please have higher hopes and demands, standards if you will, of your/our leaders than «anyone better than/not Trump». That is not good enough by any metric and is sad to even consider, given how easy it seems to have been for him and his owners (no idea who and not about to guess or care) to drag all our expectations down to gutter level. Come the fuck on, please, good people of the earth. Wake up
@@pianojonathan sorry but it was what the american people did in 2016. Better Trump than Clinton... It's all against Trump right now because of the guy (liar, narcissist, mysogin.. Etc.)
@@pianojonathan its not about hopes anymore, its not about standards, its not about anything other than the choice is down to Trump or Biden, and if u have 2 working brain cells and/or just a tiny little speck of survival instinct and/or any compassion for ur fellow citizens of Earth, that is the easiest choice ever. GET RID OF TRUMP! Then u can start working on the rest. And Andre Cabezas is absolutely right, in 2016 a lot of ppl bought Trumps "what do u have to lose" bs and thought, sure, better Trump than Clinton. Well, hes shown very, very clearly, that every1 has everything to lose with him in the WH. Its not even about ideology or policies anymore. Its literally a matter of life and death to a lot of ppl. So again, easiest choice ever.
The sign of a great man or woman is who they surround themselves with. Biden is already surrounding himself with the best and brightest because he's humble enough to realize he doesn't know it all.
Yes, a POTUS needs to surround himself with an A-team, but he/she needs to be more than a figurehead, a puppet of certain parts of the DNC. Biden has neither the temperment nor the cognitive ability we should demand. Bernie, please standby!!! When asked a valid question by a worker in Detroit, Biden told the man he was "full of sh*t" and he might slap his face!!!! Someone please convince Gov Cuomo to run, even as Bernie's VP.
Diana Nutt In total agreement. I saw two candidates of enormous promise, but the US is clearly a)not evolved enough to elect a women and, b) lacking the courage to elect a democratic socialist
Bernie dropping out wasn't a failure, for sure. Every progressive that runs gets us closer to a Progressive in the WH. Slower than some of us would like, sure.. but slow and steady will wget us there eventually. And if we can get Bernie, or Warren in the Cabinet, or a VP position (even if that is mostly symbolic), it pushes us forward.
Right. Bernie not only launched the Progressive Movement, he still holds a great position of leadership as a senator. With Trump and Biden creating such a leadership vaccum, Americans will continue to look to Sanders for hope and inspiration.
Warren isn't a progressive she has already proven this by staying in the race to take votes from Bernie, and by not endorsing Bernie after she dropped out, over a snake emoji. Which she will now see for the rest of her life. Where the hell have you been?
3:47 most important answer to why Sanders supporters should vote for Biden, even while holding their noses. I’m a Sanders supporter, but I will vote for Biden in November.
"How enthusiastic are you about Biden?" Was I the only one who thought they were trying to convince themselves with that answer? (100% agreed - better Biden than Trump, but I'm not exactly excited about it)
They do all know Biden very well and have been very positive about him as a person, but very critical of him during his campaign. I think they genuinely think he'd make a good president, but aren't too sure he makes a good candidate. And I think that fair enough. I'd prefer a whole lot more progressive than Biden personally, but as a human being he is very decent and I think he's capable (especially when compared to Trump 😅 )
@@MsEgwene I do think he'll be a good president --- that wasn't the question though. Were they excited to have him as the candidate? I think the answer to that is no (though maybe excited to just be done with the primary)
spthibault ah yes the dangers of asking more of the people what they want in the shining beacon of freedom and democracy. Hats off to republicans and their supporters for avoiding such folly
But this isn't necessarily true. When Colorado went to mail in ballots, they elected Cory Gardner?!? It's just a scare tactic to make the Republican base view it as "bad". When I was stationed overseas in the military, I always voted by mail. While I am a liberal, a lot of people in the military are not. That said, I do think it would encourage greater participation, which, historically, is not good for Republicans because they can't selectively suppress the vote (ex. target registered Hispanic voters with purges from the rolls, eliminate polling stations in predominately minority communities, etc).
@@DS-rt1ed yes but when have members of the trump train ever been overtly preoccupied with consistencies like "truth" or "facts"... the object isn't to be truthful the object is to win.
Cam you explain why you guys chosed that guy over plan lady from Harvard and Bernie universal care and wisdom, what is it with you guys about picking the weirdos
Guillermo Peralta don't compare Warren to Bernie,the man actually cares about all the issues he campaigned on, the fact people think being a Harvard professor is a selling point to the working class in a presidential election is why most her supporters are white, college educated people, that's who these kind of elitist credentials resonate with
@@guillermoperalta6659 I think it's sheer terror. Generally people who are older, people who are conservative, are fearful and that forms their worldview. Biden seems familiar and comfortable like walking in an old shoe. Bernie seems like learning to swim. Nevermind that you can feel every rock through those old shoes and the water is rising, learning to swim seems like too much risk.
I'm not US American, but the Supreme Court alone should be reason enough to vote for anything but Trump. Although I understand the grudge after everything the DNC and big media outlets did to avoid and sabotage Bernie.
Thats bs bernie was the front runner for the nomination since 2017 he had years to reach out and get votes. It wasn’t something owed to him that was denied it was a fair race and he lost stop blaming the “establishment” or the “media” your boy had time, money, people and enthusiasm on his side and couldn’t get it down.
As an average citizen I admit I never was into following politics. I never thought about it. Issues here and there but, mostly I trusted my government. But since Trump, it's been obvious we've been in danger.
To be fair, the government is always incompetent and slow to respond, any large organization is, and considering we have to work for 40-60 hours a week to keep food on the table, and politicians have to politicize for 30 hours a week, its no surprise we can't keep up with them. But yeah, Trump has really shined a light on how bad the swamp can be when you assign family and friends to positions of power and responsibility. Funny nobody learned from the Mafia in NY
Very enraging to watch Trump's meetings. I need isolation And cool down time during/after I watch them... I watched the queen of Englands public announcement and it was short, sweet, and hopeful... I'm not saying we should have a monarch but damnit I wish we had a level headed leader that could inspire hope and instill realism in a graceful manner... I can dream, can't I?
@Catherine Kirkpatrick I am from India and we might let lot of things fly but when it comes to our rights, we take to the streets, we shut down economy. Even now our pm just shut down the entire country with any qualms. We are billion people yet somehow the rate is down. If we disagree with our leaders we storm the roads.
@Catherine Kirkpatrick no system is perfect. People have to be hyper vigilant. If we allow a bad thing to happen it snowballs. That's the problem with US, they are bamboozled with so many things that they can't concentrate. They have forgotten what their founding fathers said. Democracy is a gift and it has to tended by all means fair.
trump; straight out of the Horror version of Idiocrazy! coronavirus; straight out of an Apocalypse movie! This duo proves beyond doubt that reality is more ominous than fiction...
President Camacho from Idiocracy is smarter, more eloquent, charismatic, competent, self-aware and empathetic, also not a narcissist and not a sociopath.
Swae Ocean Trump is creating conditions that are literally (yes, really literally) causing people to die who would otherwise have lived. He is proving to be a genocidal maniac. TDS is not what you think it is. Look in a mirror.
I rooted for Bernie all the time, and I am not even an US citizen. Bernie is a man of vision and energy. I don't think you have any real chance with Biden. He is a lukewarm, borderline senile old man. You need a fighter.
Daniel Ryslink I voted for Bernie Sanders in the Primary, and Joe Biden may not be the perfect choice, but he is the Democratic candidate for president, and so I will support him.
I'm not a huge Biden fan, but I will vote for him over the guy who threw kids in cages and called Covid-19 a "Democrat hoax". That said, I think Biden needs to pick a feisty VP like Stacey Abrams. With her on the ticket, they would be unbeatable, IMO.
Been hearing that Gov Cuomo is way ahead of Biden in the polls. We apparently don't deserve the perfection of a Bernie Sanders, but we need a much better choice than Biden. No plans, no enthusiasm for anything (especially debating) but primaries and setting up the convention. A tRump clone. A puppet of those who would cut Soc Sec, etc.
I’m sick of the framing, “What does Bernie have to do to bring his supporters around to Biden?” How about “What does Biden have to do to bring around Bernie supporters?” What does Biden have to offer *anyone* who is not elderly and white beside not being Trump? Does anyone know what he really stands for? Biden is the luckiest schmuck ever. His campaign was lackluster, and he did next to nothing to win the nomination. People who pay little attention to politics voted for him because they were afraid, and Biden was Obama’s VP, so a known quantity. Obama made some calls, and he got some key endorsements at the right time. So Biden shouldn’t be too cocky about his win. No one is excited about him. I mean, a ham sandwich would be preferable to Trump.
@Kissed By Firewyrms EVERY WORD you typed was pure gold and what I would have said if I had your gift. Every single word. Thank you. Stay with us, Bernie. We need you now as much as ever.
@@MrRogersTrolley So good to read your thoughts. You get right down to the bare truth of this whole disgusting way the DNC works its nasty tricks. Biden has so many "flaws," a smorgasboard of issues the GOP will no doubt use against him. He even acknowledges only 5 of 7 grandchildren, whether he's forgotten 2 or still hasn't claimed the child Hunter fathered with the dancer. She had to prove he was the dad with DNA possibly. I realize this makes me a gossip, but we had a man with impeccable character and it really sucks that he was shoved aside again.
You know twitter isn't real life? There's a reason he beat Bernie and Warren. He commands much more enthusiasm among everybody over the age of 25 than those two.
Normal gave us Donald Trump. Obama gave us Donald Trump. Biden helped. The DNC made a terrible choice by helping Joe Biden become the nominee. Bernie was that change that we needed.
I still have Bernie Sanders in my profile picture since early 2016, and it pains me to see the US doesn't deserve such a great leader. But as an immigrant with his application taking forever due to Trump administration like many other legal immigrants (and coronavirus doesn't help either), I reluctantly support Biden as he can't fuck up immigration this bad. Obama helped me keep my legal status for a longer time, and Biden is no Obama, but he definitely isn't Trump.
Ok, I now am emboldened to pander, briefly, to the trivial aspects of my nature despite the enormity of the issues being discussed. I am fascinated with the homes of people on current you tube clips~example~Jimmy Fallon OMG!! I wanna slide down his inside slide, camp in his birch room...explore all the games in TYT's John...last name is victim to my quarantine burn. For these guys, I want to know if two live in the same condo or if they share a decorator. I have no judgement, just fun curiosity, I reassure myself...
@@Ambrosha385 'better than trump' is not a difficult bar to beat. 'better than trump is a given - ALL of the dem party candidates could manage that (yep even Bloomberg).
@@MirandaScully : no, I'm saying that any black woman he picks willed be seen as his black female photo op partner. Her qualifications will be the least of his considerations. Just like when he was picked as Obama's VP is was so obviously based on optics, not qualifications or even similar world view.
He will not give him any position or if he does, it will be toothless and just to lure in Bernie voters. They already have what they want, a president that wouldn't fix or change anything.
Jim Heeren educate us on youtube comments then. tell me top 3 why i should vote for him POLICY wise please because i definitely do not want to vote for impeached peach
@@blahber222 Try being an informed voter, go to his website and take a look. Stop being the typical american, educate yourself and then ask questions if you have them.
Love these young men! Gives me hope that chump may not be re-elected. Get the message out to other young people, guys! Get them out there to vote. Good luck.
Roginello 1 don't listen to these clowns, they're part of the Democratic establishment who's committed to not rocking the boat too much to protect the interest of their donors, they may be young but their politics is that of the older generations, they supported fucking pete Buttigieg, the most hated by young voters. Listen to Chapo Trap House instead, they are in tune with young Democrats, this is the future of the Democratic Party
@@morenitomoreno1282 Chapo Trap House might the future of Democratic party, but Crooked Media guys and gals are the reality. Don't you want to know what the establishment thinks and are doing today, m?
I get being realistic and supporting a candidate, ANY candidate, who isn't a narcissistic, insane, sociopathic criminal. But honestly, these guys do come off a bit like apologists for Biden. He's a necessary move, but please let's not be blind like Trumpists.
I wish Biden were as empathetic as they are saying he is. But his record is problematic. And what about the women who have accused him of sexual assault? Do we just sweep them under the rug, after saying "believe women" for years? He has admitted that he has no empathy for younger people. What about his vehement refutation of M4A and the Green New Deal? Where IS he in this pandemic? I wish I could feel could feel comfortable and safe voting for him in November, but he hasn't earned my vote yet. I want Trump out. But I don't have any faith in Biden. Not to be the candidate who will beat Trump or be the president we need at this moment in time. There are too many questions left unanswered in my mind. Where is Uncle Joe, to comfort and guide a country in fear, searching for a real leader in troubled times? Nowhere. I don't see any evidence that he cares. Or that he can beat Trump. His nomination will hearken 4 more years of a wannabe fascist dictator. Hillary 2.0. And, no, I am not a Russian bot. I am a very concerned American citizen, with family members on the front lines in peril of the current crisis who I love and worry about every day of my life.
Laura Cordes I echo your concern and thanks for your heartfelt message. Can’t say that I am enthused about Biden either in fact I seriously worry about his physical health. he seems more often than not confused and I think Democratic Party are knowingly attempting to insert a man physically unfit for office into the WH. There are also the allegations about sexual harassment which the media do not want to cover. 2020 will be a difficult issue for me. Biden or nothing because there is no way that I can vote Trump. I’d rather die first.
It comes down to who do you want picking Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court? Donald or Joe? Let's give the poor woman a break as she can only hold on for so long.
Jesus H Christ, I've lost a ton of respect for Stephen with his "What does Bernie have to do". Biden is the nominee not Bernie, it's up to Biden to work to build a coalition with Bernie's supporters by listening to them and making real policy decisions. So far, Biden has failed. Even Clinton offered more. Lowering the age for Medicare to 60 what a pathetic crock of crap.
The fact that you have a thing called “Super Tuesday” should make you think how much elections are like a reality show. And as all reality shows, they are nothing but reality.
"How enthusiastic are you about Biden?" Was I the only one who thought they were trying to convince themselves with that answer? (100% agreed - better Biden than Trump, but I'm not exactly excited about it)
Yea.... Ask Anita Hill how kind and empathetic Biden was for her.... Yea, yall, I'll still vote for Biden over Trump. It doesn't mean he isn't a shit candidate. He's just the lesser of two shites because the DEMS NEVER LEARN.
Anita Hill spoke about this over a year ago. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/anita-hill-says-of-course-she-would-vote-for-biden-over-trump/2019/06/13/8f40d922-8e24-11e9-8f69-a2795fca3343_story.html
@@sabsin5606 You know, saying "yes I'll vote for him over Trump" says exactly nothing about his character except that she thinks he'd be better than Trump, right? It even mentions that she still holds him accountable.
@@DS-rt1ed Did I SAY Trump was better???? If you have a choice between eating dog shit and mud it's pretty horrid either way. But ya still go with mud!
15 states didn't get to vote in the primary? The primary system needs to change. It's completely unfair. That's why many people don't value their vote.
Election officials in Kent county Michigan are fantastic keep them safe at home. Get your absentee ballot. (Choke on that Betsy DeVos and extended family.)
Yes, Biden is the obvious choice, but I heard "kind" used twice to describe him. I don't know if that's a good adjective for Ol' Joe. I'm mean, we can rally behind him but that doesn't mean we have to stop being honest.
4 years ago Biden wasn't running but his name came up constantly in conversations on the podcast as they described working with him on many different initiatives. They always heaped praise upon him and talked about how one of the best parts of being in the White House was getting to work with Joe Biden. It seemed a little over the top to me as it felt more like hero worship. They explained it by saying the gaffe-machine you see in public isn't the guy you meet in person. Unfortunately, the public can really only get to know the image, not the real person. Oddly, despite all the good things they say about him, I do suspect they all voted for either Bernie or Warren but said from the beginning they'd support whoever won the nomination. It is always weird that Biden was the only Democratic nominee to not appear on their show. I suspect that will change soon.
Still don't like Biden. He will never do what Bernie Sanders would do. WE NEED MEDICARE FOR ALL. Biden won't do that. Still, we have to get Trump out of office. Not happy but I will vote for Biden, only because I have to.
UGH. LOVE seeing these guys on here!!!! I listen to all of their podcasts, and they educate me and give me hope and make me laugh. Appreciate them so much.
You said it, Bernie fought for the SAME IDEALS his entire life, you CAN'T say that about Biden, we don't know what were getting with Biden, WE did with Bernie. Yes it's Trump or Biden. Sad we have to put it that way.
I’m behind Biden. But seriously, I can’t believe that America passed up the chance for real change, for policies this will actually help the country’s residents en masse. Past behaviour is the best predictor of future behaviour...Trump exemplifies this. The only choice was Warren.
As an Independent voter, my choice would have been Bernie, but we cannot afford to split the vote with a write--in for him. Please, people, don't sit this one out or the trump travesty will continue. Support Blue, no matter who !
@@Sikosm I think the right has another new tactic. They pose as "sanders supporters" to instill doubt. You will find several such comments everywhere now, most of them will be Trumpists.
I live in Washington state where we vote, very comfortably, by mail. Is there any legitimate reason why every state in the Union should not be adopting this practice? I’m legitimately curious, please share any thoughts.
@@Karideplov I completely agree. But did you hear what they said? They did not say that. They said hes a good man and knows the system blah blah blah. Biden is half dead. My grandpa on his deathbed was clearer minded than him. Biden a year ago... Different story. But he is not in good condition. Let alone when he is, is not what America wants.
@@quiropracticoecuador1 he is not what You want. Joe is what uninformed, moderate majority wants - a nice guy they sort of know, he's friends with Barry, knows how to shake hands nicely and won't make wawes and threaten the comfortable life. 😐. Shit. Y'all could have had Bernie. And now, even these podsters are trying to fake Biden enthusiasm. Cause sad reality, even demented stuttering Joe is better than malicious narcissistic also demented Donny...
Listen to this, fellow Bernie supporters. We have to support Biden now. Biden needs us and we don’t need Donald Trump! We can keep moving forward under Biden.
Oh god this makes me want to hurl. 11! Kind and empathic (They read it like a script), has his own MeToo credible accuser. Joe for the Pandemic fight... Hmm who to vote for to deal with Pandemic, Trump who opposed the direction of the "WHO" not to travel restrict china and secured the boarder, or a democrat that advocates to giving stimulus relief funds to illegal immigrants. But when they gush about Bernie, now you see the real respect but Bernie will not be the President... and So will Joe, drop the ball as well. Bernie is the only Democrat worthy of respect. But he does not have the power to change the minds of others
You describe a candidate's personality when you can't point to their policy leanings. I mean it's lovely that there is a 'kind' person out there but the US needs someone 10000% determined to get big, radical changes through......and Biden ain't that guy.
@scetch - (deep breath) TRUMP DID NOT CLOSE THE FUCKING BORDER. Entry to the US from China was NOT banned. Flights from China to the US were NOT banned.
I appreciate what these guys are trying to do, but... hard to understand the enthusiasm for Biden outside the context of opposition to Trump. Biden might be marginally more competent than Trump, but he's not a very impressive candidate. I don't see how one can so easily jump from Sanders to Biden. I might change my mind based on who Biden picks as a running mate, and who he decides to place around him as possible advisors/cabinet members, but I don't feel nearly as much passion and determination coming from Biden compared to Sanders. Seems to me like Biden's just going to be more of the same (gaffes, poorly thought out policies, etc.). Sanders promised some real change. If I vote at all, now, it will probably be for a third party. Biden, at a push, but with an enthusiasm level of like 1 or 2, and not because I think Biden is a good candidate; just because I think he'd be slightly less awful than Trump. Though I'm not sure he's got a good shot at defeating him anyway. I wish I shared these kids' optimism
👍well said. I can't stand Biden at the best of times. I know the dnc hates Bernie, but couldn't they have come up with a better candidate to push?! Joe "gaffe machine" Biden, new & improved with added dementia....
Any vote that doesn't go to Biden, is effectively a vote for tRump. Because any vote for a third party candidate only takes votes from Biden's pool, not from tRump's pool.
I want you to take a look at what you've said. I agree, and if you'd listened to the pods you'd see that these three have also been very critical of Biden during the primaries. Lovett all but admitted he voted for Warren and suggested his mum vote for Bernie. But at the end of the day, your vote for a third party (which might as well be a non-vote) means you're allowing trump to win. It means that everything Bernie has fought for dies with his campaign. In fact, it means that your privilege will ensure that vulnerable categories will face acrual death (be it illness or starvation) because they have nothing to protect them from four more years of Donald Trump. When you vote for a third party, please at least admit that your privilege and 'ideals' come before the millions of Americans who can't afford to wait four more years for a progressive president.
How many gaffes has he had? If you add them all up, will they make it to one day of Trump's lies? Jesus Christ, your "purity tests" are not worthy of thought.
Will all due respect for the senior democrats, but my God: Was this the best the Democrats could offer? they’re 70+, they should know when to hand over to the next generation.
As far as I understand it.. there are more options but.. not really. it's really just the republican party with bully in chief and the democratic party with Biden. There's another party but their candidates barely get like 1% if at all in general in elections.
@@Svengali764 I don't know if they legally COULD do it.. but it wouldn't be of any help. They already missed most elections (to get delegates) and didn't do any footwork.. (idk but the USA public really is into the candidates going from one state to the next to decide who they vote for). So.. I doubt anyone is going to do that, but I can't answer you if anyone COULD do it.
