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Podcast 173: Navigating Narcissistic Relationships with Psychologist Dr. Ramani Durvasula

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In this podcast, I talk to professor of psychology, licensed practitioner, international speaker, consultant and best-selling author Dr. Ramani Durvasula about the many facets of narcissism, how it damages relationships and leads to abuse, how the culture of narcissism and entitlement is making the pandemic worse, and why we are so fascinated by stories of narcissists and psychopaths. We also discuss what to do if you find yourself in a relationship with a narcissist AND how to help your children NOT become narcissistic.
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Podcast Highlights
2:50 How Dr. Ramani went from health and wellness to dealing with narcissism
4:38 High-conflict, antagonist personalities and narcissism
5:36 What is narcissism?
8:38 The culture of entitlement and narcissism in our world today
13:05 Entitlement, Narcissism and COVID-19
20:51 How collectivism can enable narcissism
23:50 The two most important tasks of a parent or guardian
27:00 How narcissism and entitlement can out the brain and body into toxic stress and cause brain damage
29:14 The definition of narcissism
32:20 How to deal with a narcissistic person
45:00 Cognitive dissonance and narcissism
46:00 Trauma-bonding
55:00 What causes narcissism?
59:22 Dirty John, psychopaths and narcissism
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@lifecoachlesli3647 4 года назад

Two very smart women talking about a very important subject. As a survivor of narcissistic abuse, I LOVE that this is creating more awareness about such a destructive component of our society and culture, especially here in the US. Bravo and thanks for having this conversation!

@janaevans1634 4 года назад

I cannot believe you two have come together! I am currently working through a 21 day Switch on Your Brain program, and Dr Ramani has been my lifeline to understanding narcissistic abuse. You two are a GIFT from God. I haven’t even listened to this yet! Can’t wait!

@mfish3190 4 года назад

I’ve been following both of you for quite a while! This is fantastic!!!! You’ve both helped me massively for so long. Thank you!

@atiba1630 4 года назад

Dr. Leaf and Dr. Ramani, I am so thankful that you are discussing narcissistism and how it affects our mental health. I listen to both of you regularly.

@rachelwise3135 4 года назад

I am a school teacher, and I do deal with parents and students that think due dates and classroom rules don't apply to them. Sadly, this sense of entitlement is affecting our education system in more ways than you might realize. Over the years, I've learned how to work with these types of individuals, but now I have a whole new perspective. Thank you!

@bobanname2045 3 года назад

Thank you for the work that you do.

@marylindasmith8503 2 года назад

I was dealing with that back in the 70s! These attitudes have been developing for quite some time. Dealing with these types of people is one of the reasons I left the teaching profession.

@JD-jc4ck 2 года назад

WOW!! This was by far the best convo on narcissism I have ever heard! And I have listened to many because I was married to a narcissist and six years later still in the divorce process. Thank you ladies ❤️ this convo will save people. I owe my life to my therapist who recognized the narcissist and told me to run from my marriage. It took a year after that but eventually I did. Thank you Dr. Ramani ❤️ Thank you Dr. Leaf

@loveinthematrix 3 года назад

Her brilliance brings me peace. She is razor sharp and she has deep empathy which makes her a powerhouse. Her mind is just, damn her intelligence goes hard.

@dr.chrisperry7757 4 года назад

A riveting talk that brings so much understanding to help people surf above narcissism to find freedom. Thank you both for being global leaders of compassion and wisdom. Blessings from Wales.

@corissaeubanks1725 4 года назад

I listen to you both separately, but to see you working together WOW

@victoriaogletree4669 4 года назад

Thank you ladies soooooo much for this podcast. My biggest takeaway was how I was raised in trauma. I'm 62 years young and found my Mom is narcissistic. It was impossible caring for her. Now the ball is swinging my direction again-NOW I know better!

@kayakins1709 3 года назад

We all have these traits because we are flesh and live in a fallen world but when it’s a pattern and chaos and it’s mistreating people it is flat out wrong !

@cindymurray12 3 года назад

I thought it was a good video until a comment was made that Narcissitic people can’t change. What a downer and limiting that is, which is so different from Dr. Leaf that sends the message of hope.

@StephaniRoberts 3 года назад

What a refreshing combo! I appreciate Dr. Ramani’s perspective with the addition of the brain mapping and neuro discussion. As always Dr.Ramani has the most grounded acceptance of narcissistic relationships and how tricky they can be. Not Eve very one can leave and even when you do the entanglements endure when children are involved. Learning how to protect your energy is critical. Thank you Dr. Ramani!!!

@ericamorrison3079 2 года назад

This is an amazing gift 🎁 to have two powerful women together. Dr. Caroline Leaf I was blessed to hear speak at Word of Life Christian Center in Honolulu, Hawaii. I respect both of you ladies. God Bless you! Excited to listen ♥️🙏

@nurtured-channel2953 4 года назад

So glad of all the topics and collaborations Dr. Leaf has been bringing to her platform . Dr. Ramani is brilliant...and expert in her field and have helped me tremendously.❤ I love God , wisdom and science.

@juliesunnydaze 4 года назад

Thank you ladies. Brilliant minds at work. Empathy...compassion...reciprocity...mutuality. Enlightening🌻

@nataliablair9973 2 года назад

These two together - - - GOLD!!

@Joe502J 2 года назад

Both of you have saved me. Thank you. I have a long way to go but now the journey to healing begins. You guys are saving lives

@Christy7434 4 года назад

Once the "If you don't wear a mask you're a narcissist," talk started...PEACE OUT.

@elizabethbrown9400 4 года назад

Dr Leaf, I’ve always benefitted so much from your podcasts (and books), but this talk really disturbed me. There is so much conflicting information right now with COVID, misrepresentation by the media and the government (admittedly - Covid stats are being skewed). The statements that “conspiracy theorists are narcissistic” and people who don’t wear masks are narcissistic seem inappropriate and borderline abusive in a time where everyone is trying their best to figure out what’s right and best - without succumbing to fear. Especially with what has come to light about Bill Gates, etc. I’ve been a follower for a few years because I was thrilled to find an intelligent, articulate woman of science who was also led by the Spirit. But I’ve wondered about the balance of that recently. You do you, but that’s my two cents. ✌️

@jenniferhumby4449 2 года назад

My two favourite woman to learn from. ❤️

@AleighAleigh 2 года назад

I am a little confused at how the conversation turned into a broad over generalization and labeling, just short of diagnosing, a subculture that has developed in our society because some have grown skeptical of questionable practices and players within our governments. How can you call government officials narcissistic and even psychopathic (which had been suggested in the past), yet not understand how some in society have grown distrusting. To overgeneralize and label as narcissistic such people after creating a straw man argument is unfair, unprofessional and beneath the level of these two admirable professionals. I have come across many intelligent, empathetic and educated people who could easily be labeled as “conspiracy theorists”, by the mainstream definition and it is a shame that the ridicule of such people has so pervaded even into this conversation. Political talk and narratives do not belong here, in my opinion. And people who are listening are trying to heal. Very likely to be diagnosed and labeled themselves apparently, if their own political views are not in alignment. That being said, clearly this current political climate is fanning th narcissistic and self-righteous flame.

@dshall801 2 года назад

I agree with you I would say I'm the least narcissistic person but I totally distrust our governments. Probably because I believe the Bible and there is a world agenda for One world government. I also am disappointed that this turned political. I listen to very many doctors trying to educate myself on this virus. There's a lot of doctors that said the virus is so small it would go through the mask at least the mask almost everyone was wearing. So who's not following science??

@DebKSmith 4 года назад

Dr Leaf, I admire your work and thank you for all the podcast interviews during this horrible pandemic time. I never write reviews but I know I need to this time. I listened to your interview of Dr Ramani on my plane ride to Florida to spend time with my grown children and husband of 35 years. My marriage has been a rough one but we have stayed together all these years. There is no denying that I have my share of faults for sure! We made it through infidelity. My teacher daughter told me she thinks her dad has asbergers syndrome which made sense to me on many levels. And helped me accept my life better. But I wish I wouldn’t have heard your interview with dr Ramani. It has torn me up..my husband fit so much of what she said. He always has to win, and doesn’t care who it hurts, cognitive dissonance is so who he is, no empathy. But she said there’s no hope for them to change. I can’t believe this. It will kill me! I am a prisoner of hope and believe there is always hope. Did I miss something?

@stephanierothwell 4 года назад

Debbie, I’m not a professional but I believe there is always hope. I‘m not married to a narcissist but I have a couple narcissists in my family and I can relate to your Aspergers comment as I’ve wondered this myself. It helps me to know that even if they can’t express it well, they love me. I hope this encourages you.

@DebKSmith 4 года назад

@@stephanierothwell thank you :)

@cynthiaihej9913 4 года назад

Hello Debbie, I can relate very well to what you’re going through. Your life sounds so much like mine. During my newfound journey of self awareness (since I lost myself raising my 5 +3 children and in trying to be everything my husband wanted), I have recently learned a lot about Narcissism and people who have the traits. At first I was terrified (and really torn up) that my husband does have some traits, but my education has given me a new perspective, and now knowing what I’m dealing with has sort of freed me in a sense. I now have more understanding and compassion and I feel sad for him. But at the same time, I know I must protect myself and continue to educate myself. It would kill me too if changing were not possible. I am also a prisoner of hope and believe there is always hope and that is PRECISELY what has kept me above water in my marriage. I am not a professional but I think with a plan, self education, setting some healthy boundaries and wisdom we need to protect ourselves. For me, I don’t want to become more and more depressed. I don’t want to die from this. I recently realized that I had reached my mental capacity to deal with the pain and that I can’t do it anymore. It’s a very new, dangerous and scary place for me to be in. I was always the one to counsel others...even my elders...now I need the counsel. Please take care and know you’re not alone. I’m sorry I don’t have more answers. 💜 The only thing I’m sure of in this life is that Our Lord can touch, change and heal ANYONE!

@MsSongbird716 4 года назад

@@cynthiaihej9913 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

@MsSongbird716 4 года назад

I know how you feel...I'm coming into this same realization. I am not a fan of hopelessness but I refuse to practice misguided hope either. This is awesome information that we learned here...if you are a praying woman, find its purpose/application for your situation and your personal strategy through prayer! I will remember you and your family in my prayers! God bless 💗

@stephanierothwell 4 года назад

As someone with narcissists in my family I’m concerned that this discussion makes them out to be terrible people and that if you’re married to one the only solution is to divorce or find a way to cope. From my experience relationships with narcissists are very challenging but not impossible. It should also be noted that narcissism is a spectrum so it’s overly simplistic to lump all narcissists together. I look forward to a follow up discussion on the topic where hopefully some of these things are brought up and given clarity.

@ThePossumone 3 года назад

Yes agree If we stay in our lane Are self aware Live our own dreams snd passions Me get out of the blame game - we can give fine with one !!

@mommyput 3 года назад

@@ThePossumone Some narcissists are so controlling, they don't allow you your own lane. Some don't allow passions or hobbies. They sabotage any effort for their wives to be their own person. Some narc parents don't help or allow their children to get driver's licenses or use the family car to practice driving. They control so much that it is truly impossible to live with them.

@CamperEra 2 года назад

@@mommyput ♥️ thank you

@jessicarocha-slemmons6561 2 года назад

I was thinking the same thing. Like can anybody think about themselves can any culture be forced south and for others? Yeah I had a slight problem with what was being said as well. Especially in the conversation where the doctor was kind of insulting these other people yet saying they don’t have empathy. So do we not have empathy for them? In some sort of capacity without saying how bad and awful they are? And the whole culture!? Thank you for your comment Stephanie

@jessicarocha-slemmons6561 2 года назад

@@mommyput and that is where she saying there’s a spectrum. Because what you are Saying is true. And that fits on the spectrum.

@annesmithsmith2835 4 года назад

I find in 2Timothy , chapter 3, that these narcissistic characteristics are signs of the end times....does anyone agree?

@lifecoachlesli3647 4 года назад

Although this is listed as a component of the end times, interestingly enough, it's ALL through the bible, OT as well. Think about King Saul and a LOT of the other Kings. Even Saul/Paul was a huge not only narcissist but psychopath with how he remorselessly slaughtered Christians. It took a smack up side the head for him to even be self aware enough to recognize Jesus actually was the Messiah but then after that it was 14 years before he was healthy enough to spread the gospel. That's how deep seated his selfishness was.

@victoriaogletree4669 4 года назад

Ann Smith, you are spot on. Thank God for Holy Spirit that helps us when we call. Now I understand why I had toxic people around me all my life cause where I grew up, this stuff was normal. I believe I'm coming up and out of this situation and will be patient with the process. My later will be greater than the former, Joel chapter 2.

@victoriaogletree4669 4 года назад

To Life coach Lesil, because of the transformation Paul experienced and the revelation he recieved, he began to spread the Gospil immediately. It is the work of the Holy Spirit at work that transforms, you don't negate that. Minister Jesse Duplantis was ministered to in a restroom of a club and was converted immediately. He was a rockstar.

@lifecoachlesli3647 4 года назад

@@victoriaogletree4669 I have different information. He was studying for at least 3 years and then was in other places before he was officially starting his ministry 14 years later. Paul couldn't go to the Jews directly because they knew he was a murder! Having had personal experiencewith people who call themselves Christians but are actually narcissists and sociopaths, even in instances where God divinely intervenes and tries to get their attention they resist and don't want to change. They have a know-it-all attitude and they look down on people and are not teachable. Paul is a bit of an exception but God doesn't change people overnight, they have to want to change and I see that in real life as well as throughout the Bible. Including with Paul. Here is a link in case you want to reference that. I think you may have erroneous information about Paul's ministry. Blessings 🙏 biblehub.com/nkjv/galatians/2.htm

@nurtured-channel2953 4 года назад

....lovers of themselves...

@lt827 2 года назад

What a great addition to the psychological viewpoint of Dr Ramani to have the physiological consequences of being narcissistic explained.Thanks Dr. Leaf!

@Sandy-to1vg 3 года назад

Please bring Dr. Ramani back soon for more insights and sharing--this is so rich and helpful. TY!

@freakuency6842 4 года назад

The lady on the left who wrote all this about narcissistic tendencies is a narcissist herself. Listen to the way she speaks as if her words are all important and she has "the juice." Everything Caroline said she had to talk over and give her opinion. This conversation was very enlightening nonetheless. Thank you, Caroline. Thank you other lady.

@Christy7434 4 года назад

Agree! So obvious.

@bbraskey8521 4 года назад

Agreed. Generally speaking only, It's amazing how many twisted "Dr."s are in the psych world. Some of the very people who are supposed to be helping others are actually power hungry, sick monsters. And, NARCS can certainly be Dr.'s who love to abuse their patients & twist the truth.

@marie-louisekadogi6552 4 года назад

God bless you Dr Leaf and your guest. Someone has explained in great details of the kind of relationship I’m in. I’m sorry I married one of this Narcissist a year ago. My heart is broken and I can see a second divorce now. Though I said to myself never again.

@micahangeles4210 3 года назад

So enligthening talk! Truly it is better to give up a narcissist. There is no hope in us fixing them. Just leave them to God and pray for them because only God can truly change a person!

@mariselamoreno5787 2 года назад

Excellent conversation!!! Dr. Ramani is the expert in Narcissistic behavior. 👍🏻❤️😊

@leahflower9924 2 года назад

Finally someone talked about how individualistic society vs. collectivist society harms people, the way we live isn't natural or even close to how our earlier ancestors lived.

@yvettetrespalacios 4 года назад

Scripture speaks of things to come. We must be wise and alert, not fearful.

@inneke1905 3 года назад

I respect both of your work and amazed by surrender to Christ (mind management has humbled me so much and deepens His words for me). there is hope for narcissists to change. i am certain of this.

@yeahyeahyeah307 3 года назад

Wow I have immense respect for both of these women. So cool to see them in a video together!

@prodigaldaughter6732 3 года назад

And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

@anndredove6500 4 года назад

Oh my gosh, after 98years my mother's rule ended and then I realized she was a narcissist. I am finding many narcissists around me.

@patriciasegage499 4 года назад

I have so many questions. Three generations, and each generation a product of their specific times. In the country we live, no one in the field understands. Listening to the both of you have opened our understanding. 2 generations have been diagnosed with depression and ADD / ADHD. But there is still some thing missing.

@candiceaustin6937 2 года назад

Very Enlightening & THANK YOU on educating on this topic. More awareness on Narcissist gives the person who has been blind sided victimized can start to awaken and heal. You both are brilliant women

@ProfessorNorris1 4 года назад

I love you both. Like attracts like:). I'm excited to see you both together. And so thankful for your work.

@gracekennelly8534 2 года назад

I love to see you two together! You are each my favourites. Together is amazing 🤩

@paulakyle8146 4 года назад

Fascinating interview. I learned so much. Excellent.

@yvonnemaistry9239 4 года назад

This was most enlightening- I didn’t want it to end! Grateful for these amazing women who have taken the time to passionately grow in their fields so we could benefit! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽♥️♥️♥️

@freakuency6842 4 года назад

Another comment to show an opposing viewpoint Narcissists can change. Only if they want to though. Only if they realize what is going on inside of themselves. I've seen it many times. Suggestion: Get the self aware narcissist to do some work in solitude. Possibly even a monastery for a short period. It works.

@delmariecharlene9671 3 года назад

Please tell me more

@freakuency6842 3 года назад

@@delmariecharlene9671 what more is there to tell? Everyone has the capability to change.

@camilegend 3 года назад

well we the conspiracy people were right about so many things. one has to assume that science is always right so we need to wear masks etc etc and even though science said there are only 2 genders everyone wants to be inclusive and it’s ok to be any gender and call yourself anything you like.

@willybranlund 4 года назад

This is great! I’m a single dad, I know unheard of, and I teach my kids “old school” morals: respect, honor and integrity. A lot of my peers are always telling me “you need to evolve.” I usually say, “fuck off!” I think respect, honor and integrity are becoming lost arts and so is compassion. I love what you both talked about, so great!

@sozohealthandfitness 4 года назад

I’m not sure your response to them is respectful or honoring but I agree that coming back to the basics is a beautiful thing.

@willybranlund 4 года назад

Sozo Health And Fitness Mimi Kroger I think what their saying pertains to what I’m teaching my kids, to put others before yourself. Before you you open your mouth, think a bit! And to anyone trying to tell me, as a single father, that traditions like “honor, respect and good morals” are out of style. They can fuck off!

@cynthiaihej9913 4 года назад

I think in order to be honorable, you might want to lay off the extreme curse words. Then your children can learn from you. I hope you don’t just read this, but really hear it. Those curse words undo everything you’re trying to say. I hardly ever comment, but here it is. You can’t be respectable whilst cursing like a sailor. Kids see right through those things. We aren’t invisible to them and they emulate us.

@willybranlund 4 года назад

The last Shall be first / 1996-2008 I served in the Middle East, you of all people don’t have the right to speak of honor.

@debrawinrow7443 3 года назад

What an Awesome time TY Caroline❣️

@aerobuild 4 года назад

I would have really enjoyed this podcast, but throwing in not so subtle political opinions undermined the message!!

@chi9153 2 года назад

I agree....

@born4thstime 4 года назад

Dr. Caroline Lear is miles beyond Dr. Durvasula in her thinking.

@sozohealthandfitness 4 года назад

Why do you feel it’s important to make a comparison?

@loveinthematrix 3 года назад

She is in absolutely so incredible

@douglaswaineo1315 4 года назад

Thank you!! Excellent information.

@azsunburns 3 года назад

To see you both together. Amazing!

@tashalodge1340 4 года назад

Ahhhh 2 of my favorite ladies ❤️❤️❤️

@lisacobb2311 4 года назад

Thank you please have her back!

@jillh190 3 года назад

I’d really like to share my story with you. In 2019 I took a new role in a new job working for a narcissist. I watched him misuse money, people, and company assets to a degree that was frightening. As long as he needed me, he treated me like a Queen but then he changed right before my eyes. Medcircle kept me sane and helped me to recognize what I was going through. Unfortunately my coworker fell hard into his trap and is suffering from his abuse. My church helped me navigate through this vicious form of spiritual warfare.

@mariejames3670 2 года назад

you go Dr Ramani

@christinesullivan3867 4 года назад

Jesus can change anyone!

@cynthiaihej9913 4 года назад

Christine Sullivan oh I love this comment

@Christy7434 4 года назад

ABSOLUTELY.

@nurtured-channel2953 4 года назад

Jesus can change anyone that wants to be changed...

@DebKSmith 4 года назад

I have to trust in Him as well!

@eaglesview888 4 года назад

@@nurtured-channel2953 That is a fact !! Do they desire change ? or are they enjoying the ride

@yeahyeahyeah307 3 года назад

I love these women....wow

@lisakosies5966 4 года назад

I'm surprised that with this hour long podcast, the focus of some comments were on her perceptions on wearing the masks. She said "some people". No individual names were targeted. Narcissistic people were. The doctor also did illustrate how narcissism affects others, and coping skills. Despite the mask issue, she also talked about starting children to learn empathy and self awareness. Let's not take any of this personally. Let's just find tools to cope and influence in a positive way.

@mommyput 3 года назад

I wonder how they feel now after we know masks made zero difference and "science" backs it up. Science never showed masks did anything to stop any kind of virus.

@susanmunoz7688 2 года назад

@@mommyput So true!

@leahflower9924 2 года назад

i'm surprised people can't understand the concept of looking a the bigger picture and the main point, if her examples don't work for everyone that's normal but the point is narcissism and how hyper modern society can help build narcissism.

@marylindasmith8503 2 года назад

Their comments were unnecessary, especially since so much talk about "the science" is anything but. Calling people who disagree with their own superior (the look on their faces) viewpoints conspiracy theorists and narcissists is divisive, as this entire topic is so controversial and wrought with fraud. That was total turnoff to me, and I'm not fond of conspiracy theories.

@wendy911 Год назад

Hi Caroline , You are a teacher and believer that we can overcome all set backs . 2 Timothy 3: 1-5 what is the scientific explanation of Narcissism . When does Demonized come into a the picture ?

@patandemy 4 года назад

DSM removed it, stating in was so common it’s the norm. I was told a few years ago. I guess it was replaced or put back in. I know this type well.

@meribethlarsen6669 4 года назад

Some of the churches are doing church online or in their Parking lot via an intercom.

@ISing4Jesus6353 4 года назад

So interesting! I've been saying this for years and I'm not even a psychologist. I'm just very perceptive and intuitive. I see people hogging the road and speeding and not following the rules and thinking...aha! that person is not a team player. They don't care about anyone but themselves. I've also been saying this about people who refuse to wear a mask...they don't care about showing respect for others. And when these people talk their favorite words are "I" and "me". It's like they found themselves in a change curve and they're stuck in the denial/me phase. But I never would have classified them as narcissistic.

@johnbaker3180 Год назад

Hey, I struggle with Narcassism. I was completely blind to it and it’s cost me my family. I understand I have to own my choices and outcomes, but is there a path to full recovery?

@humble.pie. 2 года назад

2 of my favorite Dr.s Loved this

@rustymaeblassman2038 2 года назад

When they get older and are no longer successful, famous ness, and worthiness makes them even worse and more dangerous. What I have learned is surprising to me… A narcissist is actually afraid to be alone and therefore needs to make you afraid to be without them. They are happiest in a hospital or in a rest home where they are cared for like a baby. Which is what they want from you and I. When they don’t get it they come back with… I’m not like the rest of these. They can be dangerous and will accuse you of abuse and even call the police on you. I’m long winded…😊😊😊

@bethfrawley451 2 года назад

I would love to hear both of your perspecitives on the mask and covid issues now, 18 months later.

@allenhernandez3422 4 года назад

Yo I'm not wearing a face diaper

@carmenkieu1315 2 года назад

I enjoy Dr Ramani's work. But disagree with the hard labeling and the argument that the brain is fixed like that. To me it contradicts with Dr Leaf is teaching that the mind could be limitless and constantly changing.

@corissaeubanks1725 4 года назад

Blessings thank you

@rubinaminassian6127 3 года назад

Yaeee two of my favorites

@kayleenirwin4630 3 года назад

No one truly changes without repentance of sin. Our carnal nature cannot change without being born again. I didn’t feel your sense of mercy and love for the people with Narssitic personalities. All things are possible with God. Many Many. testimonies of God changing people through repentance. Just recently Dr Leaf. I feel you are drifting away from the truth of Gods word.

@rannen24 3 года назад

Brilliant!!

@Philip-jv9uk Год назад

Indulged!

@nokengkawong3531 2 года назад

How to get rid of them without divorce 😥

@marybradbury4108 2 года назад

I have been listening to Dr. Caroline before and this is very helpful - although I have a question. Is it possible for a child to have this issue, with traits started in childhood and full-blown in adulthood?

@erhisakpojaro8536 3 года назад

Learned si much today thank you so much for this!

@erhisakpojaro8536 3 года назад

@@reneekelley4279 So sorry to hear this. Get lots of support around you as you are going through this. You will survive this!

@kirstenshindler7767 3 года назад

How did I miss this? Get to see it now! :)

@barastrunc6455 2 года назад

Dr. Leaf, I am a mom of a small child. Could you please help me to find more information on this part you talk about in this video: 23:50 The two most important tasks of a parent or guardian. I think I live in a mild narcissistic relationship and my partner would like to cooperate in self-awareness and self-change. I do believe you when you say the brain can be changed because of its neuroplasticity. And I would like us both to be good parents and partners and people in general.. Thank you so much.

@Philip-jv9uk Год назад

"Cults" of " personalities"

@suesimms7013 2 года назад

Oh my I have been feeling and thinking this, like this is God reset so we can change, I can see exodus and kings and more in all that’s going on in the world. It’s like I’ve woken up to myself, but always knew deep inside this is a narcissistic world. I thought I was the crazy one, just like narcissism does!

@candie5150 3 года назад

I binge watch Dr. Ramani because she so accurately and articulately communicates the state of fallen mankind. We all know Trump has the narcissist traits, like many (if not all) of his predecedsors. His lack of performance in the empathy arena will always be regarded by those who don't agree with his policies (and by some who do). But to face the core issues in government. The love of money and power. It's going to take someone who's willing to stand between the most crooked and perverse narcissistic politicians who could care less about you or I, and say NO MORE, not on my watch. We're the one's exploited. They'll stop at nothing to remain in power, even if they seemingly give us what we want. Let Trump support their policies, and they'd somehow excuse away his behavior because it would benefit them. You can't have it both ways. The fairytale that we could all agree to what the 'greater good' is, will always be just that. A pipe dream. Until then, we all just need a heart transplant (spiritually speaking). There's a heart issue at the core of every human being. Definitions of Good-Evil, Right-Wrong will always differ. One day when we all stand before our Maker and give an account. Hopefully, we won't have studied Adam so long and what the devil did thru him, that we completely miss the greater good of what Christ did thru Jesus, and what He'll do thru one surrendered soul who places their trust in Him. It takes looking at these behaviors that bears the question, how can we be saved? Can a perfect God use imperfect people, whose performance is ever evolving? Or do we just need a new heart altogether? This divided nation (and world) needs a breakthrough. Dr. Ramani is definitely part of that breakthrough. A gift from God to help us all understand that Adamic nature in all us, and how desperately helpless we are without a Savior. How are we going to escape? But that's another comment for another day. Dr. Ramani you're helping many people (including me) see how desperate we all are.

@janicegavin6169 Год назад

Uplift community by wearing a 😷 ?

@leishaleslie44 4 года назад

I am disappointed- where is the hope of Christ in this? Where people are new creations- where they can be transformed by the renewing of their minds?

@mommyput 3 года назад

These people rarely change. It's so rare that we can safely say it's practically never. They have to want to change. Because they lack self-awareness, they don't see anything to change.

@delmariecharlene9671 3 года назад

I am also so disappointed and thought the same thing. Christ can change anyone

@karenunterreiner4655 2 года назад

@@delmariecharlene9671 I respect your belief that “he can” change them. However “can” is different than he “does” change them. Evidence strongly upholds that these people hold firm to their abusive ways. As you will pull a child in from a storm to protect them, we need to get victims away from these people and not to tell them to wait for a change.

@m.cypher1471 2 года назад

N.s think that they are right. They cherry pick scripture to justify themselves & lambast anyone who dares to oppose their every thought. Pride is huge as they pretend to be humble. God's word is quite specific about pride, (i.e. Pharisees).

@KoolT Год назад

Everyone isn't Christian. This goes world wide. This is medicine.

@kayakins1709 3 года назад

Yes they like to brag on their kids and etc accomplishments.. They take it to extreme and live through their kids cause it gives them attention and validation.

@leevik6 Год назад

The whole wearing a mask subject, is a way of shaming folks here, which is gaslighting. I think folks have the right to choose personal medical care and any apparatuses on their bodies. Cloth masks (fashion/political wear) do literally nothing to protect from illness. Medical masks do help but are not meant to wear on your face for prolonged periods of time, hindering our only natural orifices we use for air exchange. I have battled cancer and still feel.its a personal choice. I am more curious about those folks who have been in a long term relationship with a narcissist, that they have developed or mirrored use of this behavior as well, and are still not aware of it, this is a topic needs discussed more.

@rubijenn 2 года назад

I have been listening to these two amazing women for some time. I have Great respect for them both and am also incredibly indebted to them for their past profound insights and knowledge. However. I am also deeply disappointed on their ill informed discussion here on this controversial topic, and their sheer lack of research, critical thinking or insight. Dr Ramani it was unworthy of you to label, malign and poke fun of people who wish to question the malevolent mainstream narrative we are being forced to endure. Many PhD’s on mass, across the globe are refusing to accept this, this mainstream narrative or the demands of government. As you know, and if not not anything else, PhDs know how read, research and think critically. And they seek out patterns. You say those who go against the mainstream are selfish and narcissistic, for challenging the advice of epidemiologists and yet these sort of people who do are “barely out of high school” - You then belittle and talk about them as if they are ignorant uneducated red necks. Please be careful here Dr. Read the clinical trials in Pubmed on masks and listen to some of the most highly cited and qualified drs and scientists in the world! Even the uneducated know how to be discerning. Please, do the research instead of parroting stereotypical rot. Research OUTSIDE the mainstream to start with on how many tens of thousands of young people are dead or maimed for life, after being forced by totalitarian governments and corporates to have the shot. Even the official figures are getting beyond belief. Then look at the class actions suits from tens of thousands of Drs around the world while your gazing at global numbers... and start considering those real narcs who control the power structures at every level above govt leaders. Research where many of them gained their start. And who funded them. Research who is in control (this is your area) ABOVE the pharmaceuticals. Cross reference the Boards of big pharma and the MM. This is rather revelatory. Follow the money Dr. as they say. Consider the profound research of Dr David Martin and Dr Peter McCullough. We the people must become very aware of narcissism and psychopathy and where it truly lives and how it controls us, mere mortals. When you do your research I suggest you don’t use google.

@corissaeubanks1725 4 года назад

Oh Lord help me

@Philip-jv9uk Год назад

Pandemic of narcissism ! (?)

@Philip-jv9uk Год назад

" world"/ " worlds" mm

@janicegavin6169 Год назад

I would think you both would understand that yes you are responsible for yourself...I cannot be held accountable for everyone... seriously..... disappointed in both of you...masks do not evaluate wether someone who is narcissistic...😣

@janicegavin6169 Год назад

You are actually appearing very arrogant by degrading those who don't wear masks...

@Marinheiro994 4 года назад

1 hour in to the conversation, Harry and Meghan I think fall into this category.

@shawnpeddy2218 4 года назад

Over reaching!!! Totally disagree with the comment that mindsets can’t change!!! Being Transformed, by the renewal of the Mind- Must be a Believer in JESUS!!!

@bylliedawn 2 года назад

I agree!!!! Jesus can change anyone who’s willing

@janicegavin6169 Год назад

Very disappointed....

@acharich 4 года назад

21:18 Empathy has to be cultivated.. 🔑 Man, this whole parenting link is fascinating.. 🤯 I'm really considering getting into CBT, what do u think..? 🙏🏾💭 - @Acharich

@lifecoachlesli3647 4 года назад

Why are you considering CBT? It has its place but its not the most transformative of therapy styles out there. It's not helpful for abuse recovery or deeper emotional issues. Depends on what your situation is.

@nurtured-channel2953 4 года назад

The Kardashians came to mind 29:20

@kayakins1709 3 года назад

I do believe though that the Bible is fulfilling itself.