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I love that they live in la and are always dressed like its 15 degrees out

I forget that Jenna majored in Psychology sometimes

I have a conspiracy that Jenna has never had a basketball game

It's actually easier to think that Jenna has travelled to an alternate universe or dimension than it is to process that she's left the internet indefinitely

"I've never done meth." I'm so proud of you, sweetie, you're doing great.

Jenna- "I could never be a police officer, i'd be sad all the time" Me- *literally listening to this podcast while working for the sex crime division* Me- pretty much yep.

Julien: reads mysteries Jenna: *Visible distress*

"Hopefully you're not eating now" *Me stopping mid bite*

When they started talking about ad...😭 #RIP❤️#ad

Anyone else re-watch these podcasts when they need a Jenna fix?

Make a dog bed out of Irish spring so Kermit can rub his body all over it

*sees title of video* *longest hell yeah ever*

I love when jenna talks about psychology and sociology it’s so interesting

Jenna: “This was in the United States?” Julien: “This WAS in the United States.” Jenna, under her breath: “.....shit.....”

PLEASE. DO. MORE. OF. THESE.

This is random, but the way Jenna has changed over the last 5-10 years is insane. Looking at her back in 2011-2013 vs. now is CRAZY. Her personality is so different, in a good way! Julien is so good for you, boo.

Btw the Jamison’s dog lived and was fine after getting found :)

I was at the Cecil the same weekend that Elisa went missing, a creepy guy tried following me into the hotel and toward the elevator, and the front desk got SUPER alarmed and intercepted him while I ran for the elevator. I was creeped out by the guy but even more creeped at how alarmed the front desk people were as if they knew him and he'd tried this before... all I did was glance at them and mouth 'help' when I walked in. Then this whole crazy thing went down and found out she went missing at the same time... I always wonder if that could've been me.

This went from 0 to Shane Dawson real quick

am i the only one that gets hella paranoid watching these even though they’re not ghost stories??

The background combined with your clothes makes it look like you guys are in a horror camping movie.

Where is my conspiracy podcast with Shane???

When Jenna and Julien talk about Ad they sound like parents that's three other kids were flops and Ad is the only one that turned out right. . . . I guess he really was #ripad

The death of Elisa Lam absolutely freaks me out and the video footage is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen. But I did some research and now I am pretty convinced that she had a manic episode and climbed into the water tank by herself (for whatever reason, probably hallucination or maybe "just for fun" in her mind). Here are some things I found answers to: - why was the elevator door not closing? very simple explanation: by looking outside all the time she was constantly triggering the sensor that caused the door to stay open. Obviously it closed once she walked out and no one was triggering the sensor anymore. - why does the video footage seem altered? This is just a theory but there might have been another person with her in the elevator at some point (who then walked out again because they were scared by her behavior) who had absolutely nothing to do with her death. Naturally the police wanted to protect the identity of that person because obviously the public would have developed wild theories without any actual proof to back them up (which obviously backfired). - how did she get into the water tank? Contrary to popular belief there actually was a ladder on the tank, like a fire escape or something. And the lid itself wasn't impossible to lift either. And she would have totally been able to lift it, especially under the high influence of adrenaline caused by her manic phase. There is a video by a chinise vlogger who visited the hotel, climbed on the roof (without any alarm going off), he went to "her" water tank and the lid was even OPEN. So it certainly doesn't seem impossible anymore. - why were her clothes floating next to her? It's likely that the lid closed itself (because of gravity) after she opened it a little and slid through. So at some point shortly after she must have realized that she'd made a huge mistake. Or maybe she didn't and her following actions were just out of instinct. You might know that wet clothes are extremely heavy. That's why when she jumped into the water tank and her clothes were basically causing her to drown, her first instinct was obviously to take them off. The cause of her death was drowning after all. Opening the lid from inside would have been impossible after a while she must have ran out of energy to continue swimming and just drowned. The saddest part to me is that her manic episode might have been over at this point, so she might have been clear again, and there she was, trapped in a water tank where nobody would hear her scream for help. This is horrible. My sources for this were the wikipedia page and a reddit post that linked to the toxicology report and other documents. On a different note: I think the story about the man from Taurid is totally made up. There is no official proof of any of this ever happening and the only source for this is a magazine (or book) that appeared in the last century that was about urban legends. So... doesn't seem legit to me at all. It's a fun story though. Sorry about any grammar mistakes, english is not my first language. I hope it's still somewhat readable.

"big methy meth fight"

I always forget that Jenna has degrees in psychology

4:27 - Jameson family 19:57 - elisa lam 36:44 - man from torrid 44:27 - fart

Unsolved dinksteries

I'm kinda sad naturebox isn't a sponsor because when Jenna said "I need a snack too" all I could think was MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR A SEGUE

Y'all should make a pillow fort and do a podcast in it. Like it could either be a fun nice cozy one or a conspiracy one like yes fam scare the shit out of us while being comfy

Its been a year please make another unsolved mysteries pod cast PLEASSSSSSSSEEE! We loved this video

wow i love buzzfeed unsolved, ryan and shane who?

One (of the many) thing I love about you two is that you're clear when you are unsure about something. 'this is what I think, but check that', and then fact checking during the podcast. We need more of this, of people saying "I'm not sure, let's find out, but even after we look it might still be unclear".

Deffiently more !!!!! This was one of my fave podcasts - 💋💗💗

I was feeling like shit today, thank you for existing.

Jenna: why would a cult leader wanna kill their members?? Me: YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF JONESTOWN JENNA??? HELLo!

I literally just looked for another conspiracy podcast and then u upload THIS HELL YEAAAH!!!

i love watching while i eat lunch

Imagine if that Taured guy disappeared from the room, and woke up in his bed. His dream was our reality.

Wasn’t it also found later on that water tank case that she had a tumblr account and had written a bunch of posts indicating that she felt she was being followed by someone days before it happened?

I need more of these!! I'm literally drooling for more! That last one was awesome holy shit

Buzzfeed Unsolved is quaking

OK I was hoping you'd look at Elisa Lam. I looked into it a lot since I relate to her and because of how tragic it is. As Jenna said, bipolar disorder is both a mood disorder and a psychotic disorder, with psychosis more common in manic episodes. From the toxicology reports we know that she had been taking her anti depressants but not her anti psychotics - this is a formula for a severe manic episode. This was likely because she had this big trip planned and didn't want her depression ruining it. That in my opinion explains her strange behaviour, although I know a lot of people disagree. Also, in the research I did, it appears the water tank is not as inaccessible as some reports claim. The pictures out there also are from an angle where you can't see the way to get up there - there is access. People have worked out the weight of the lid and it's light enough for one woman to open it factoring in the hinge. Also, people have gone back to the hotel to see whether they could get on the roof and they could do it with no issue. This was something that I would say was the hotel covering their back - they claimed it was impossible for guests to access the roof so they wouldn't be liable, when it is possible that a staff member just left a door/window open that should have been kept locked for example. The fact that the door stayed open - she needed glasses and wasn't wearing them. This could be due to the bipolar thinking she doesn't need them. But she ended up mashing buttons because of this. Many elevators have a hold button that will keep the doors open for a while, for example for some staff needs this may be handy. I think she pressed this and it was a sick coincidence that it closed just as she left. It may have saved her life otherwise. Since the doors weren't closing, she thought she'd find her own way up to her room and ended up using the service ladders outside, and got on the roof. From there her psychosis explains why she wanted to get in the water tank. Who knows what she was thinking, and a manic person's thinking doesn't necessarily make sense outside of that state of mind. She seems like an amazing young woman who met a terribly tragic end. I wish she was still with us.

This is the scariest "unsolved mystery" of my life, I don't tell this story to many people because I'm scared they won't believe me, but it's terrifying and we never came to a solid conclusion to what was going on. I was 16 at the time living in a trailer with my Mom and 3 siblings, in a small trailer park with about 10 trailers in total. The park was sandwiched between a homeless shelter and a gas station so we met a lot of weirdos. Our neighbor was a sweet old crazy cat man with disabilities that made it hard to walk and he had like 20 cats always outside hanging out, we had been his neighbor before we moved here too so just for preference there's no way it was him. My mom worked the night shift from 11 pm to 7 am and got a 1 hour lunch break at 3 am. It was summer so me and my sister would stay up pretty late watching RU-vid and ironically most of the time it was scary stories or horror movies. The only tv was in my mom's room at the very end of the trailer towards the side that's near the gas station. There was only one window in her room and it was on the side of the house facing my neighbor's home, and we had a small air conditioning unit sticking in it. If you've ever been in a trailer or even outside of one you will know that you can hear everything outside and if you're outside you can hear everything going on in. I think this started within the first week of summer break, me and my sister would be watching scary stories and when 2 am rolled around we would hear heavy footsteps outside of the trailer. Starting from the front of the trailer and stopping right in front of the window. The first time it happend they were only there for about 3 minutes before we heard the footsteps continue and disappear, we woke my brother up and he walked around the trailer looking for anyone. He said it was probably just one of the cats but me and my sister both agree it was heavy human footsteps. Not tiny cat steps. When my mom came home in the morning we told her about it and she said it probably wouldn't happen again but it was creepy. It kept happening over and over again and I would keep track of the time that they stood outside of the window and it kept getting longer and longer. It was disturbing you could hear the person breathing some nights, or shifting their weight from one foot to the other. Some nights we would go get my brother as soon as we heard the steps and he would run outside and no one would be there, other nights we would call my mom and she would come check on us at 3. One night my sister had fallen asleep early and I was the only one awake when the footsteps came, this night I heard something being moved around on the ground under the window. It kinda sounded like something being dropped or tripped over, this scared the shit out of me so I walked over to the window and yelled that I was calling the cops, but I didn't hear anything. I called my mom and she still had 30 minutes before she went on break and I waited the entire time by the window waiting for the footsteps to start again, my mom drives a loud car with bright blue headlights so it's a dead giveaway when she's coming home because you can hear her and see the blue through the windows. This person must have done this enough to recognise it because the footsteps started and I heard them sprinting away. Like 5 seconds later I hear my mom running around the house, she came inside and said she didn't see anyone, but it's insane to me because she barely missed them. Maybe that was a good thing though. In the morning we found that the paneling underneath my mom's window had been pulled off and there was a huge gaping hole showing underneath our trailer. My mom eventually got a different job and it stopped happening as soon as she was there at night. It's creeps me the hell out thinking about it, especially because we never got closure. And yeah we called the cops once but they basically said it's not illegal to walk around at night and it's probably nothing.

Me: I don't believe in ghosts. *after the podcast* Me: GHOSTS ARE REAL AND AFTER ALL OF US OH FUCK.

There needs to be another podcast with Shane where you guys talk about creepy things/conspiracies

When I woke up today, I told myself that I was going to go to sleep early tonight. That was, in fact, a lie. It's two AM and I'm on my third one of these creepy ass podcasts wHy Do I dO tHiS tO mYsElF

Watching this in 2020 and crying over Ad and Jenna it’s fine

Kinda late here but for the first theory....my dad used to be a heavy meth user. His delusions were crazy. And he would try to convince me of these delusions and go to great lengths to prove to me that they were true. He would talk about people following him, planting poison in his food/polluting his air. He once thought the neighbors were spying on us and stood on a table to look over the fence, the table fell through and he cracked his head open. Meth causes such crazy dilutions I can see them leaving the money during a delusion and running from "someone watching them". Maybe getting lost in the woods, or being so "strung out" after the high they slept there until they died. My dad could sleep for a full week after doing meth. Or they could have overdosed. Idk but it is definitely drug related, I don't think it was a murder.

I have a conspiracy theory that Jenna wants everyone to get EXCITED about their LIFE

*Conspiracy theories?* 😀

I came here after the Skinwalker podcast. And that part from 7:15 - 7:23 freaked me out coz that bark sounded weird AF!

I knew that they recorded this ep in advance but tbh i was kinda expecting a solo Jenna podcast and I was totally ready for it

Home alone and freaking the fuck out! But yall have to do more of these lol

Julien: "I hope you're not eating..." Me: slowly stops chewing pasta.......

JULIEN LOOKS SOOOO GOOD

When Julien said “i hope your not eating” i was in the middle of biting my hot Cheeto.

I CAME AS FAST AS I COULD IM READY FOR THESE UNSOLVED MYSTERIES

I love julien at 17:31 where he goes “as a meth user “ and then just stops talking

You know you spend too much time on the internet when you’re familiar with all of these mysteries before watching this podcast lol

Jenna you've got to listen to the podcast Rabbits. It's a fiction podcast about an alternate reality game, secret societies, slipping dimensions, etc. It's cool as fuck; I loved every second. Give it a try!

that one dislike is jacksfilms

Julien: We’re obviously not gonna solve these Jenna: *SOLVES THE ENTIRE MANDELA EFFECT* (probably)

Meth users also don't sleep or eat for days on end, like 5,6, 7 days sometimes. And that is what causes the delusions. Meth also lasts a really long time. Around 6-8 hours or more depends how much you do. They were probably on a long 6 day meth binge running on no sleep and no food and suuuuuper paranoid, tried to "escape" with everything they had. Daughter, dog, cash. Such a sad story, tho :/

I NEED A PART 2 AND A PART 3 AND MORE!! Scrolling through that twitter thread was mind-blowing and terrifying. I need J&J's opinions on all of these mysteries

Here's an unsolved mystery: THAT CROOKED PIN RACK!

when he snapped his fingers and said: "disintegrated"... ha this came out months before Infinity War

YO THAT PASSPORT ONE FUCKED ME UP BUT I LOVE IT

big methy meth fight

Julian: hope you’re not eating right now Me: *looks down at my sandwich* nope

Julien gives us no consolation in the transition to each story “the next ones fucked” 💀

Another thing I noticed about watching the elevator footage, was she CLEARLY pressed the “open door” button multiple times. I 100% believe she was out of it enough to not realize she was the reason the doors wouldn’t close. They do finally close when she walks away because enough time had passed for that bypass to finish. If you haven’t seen the footage I strongly urge you to. I absolutely smell foul play, and EXTREMELY creepy shit happening, but the doors, I have to say, are her fault.

Can you do more google deep dives ?

In a parallel universe, Jenna and Julien are doing a podcast about the Unsolved Mystery of the man from Taured how mysteriously disappeared at an airport in Japan.

when you remember that Jenna has a degree in Psychology. Also what if the elevator door didn't close because she kept blocking the door every five seconds?

Jenna is so intelligent 🤗 use that psychology otter

Just wanted to mention there are a few things about the water tower case that are important. So she was there with classmates who noted she had been displaying (what we know now) manic behavior, to the point that she had to switch rooms. She had been on medications to treat bipolar disorder, but toxicology confirmed she was off of those meds though, at least some of them. There were water issues _prior_ to their arrival, so imagine her already being manic (and paranoid because she was hiding her disorder from her school and classmates) and then becoming paranoid of the water source and having hallucinations. So most likely sequence of events is that she had a manic episode that caused her to become paranoid of the water, and likely the hotel itself based on the hotels history (elevator clips), so she finds her way to the water tank. The tank itself did indeed have a maintenance ladder on the side according to reports, though the tank lid was incredibly heavy which is where people become skeptical. However it is has been stated by psychologists that it would absolutely be possible for a person within a severe delusion and a paranoid manic state to to do something of that natural with the amount of adrenaline they’d be pumping. Most likely she climbed into the tank to discover what was wrong with the water and got trapped. Edit: Also wanted to mention that the elevator not closing is easily explained by her continually triggering the sensor by leaning out, leaning on, and generally messing with the elevator. So it closed when she walked away because no one was triggering the sensor anymore. I am a fan of and general believer of paranormal things, but I think that case is just a really sad case of a mental disorder causing an untimely death to a sick young woman.

I feel extremely certain there had to have been an employee out of view of the camera. Keeping the elevator open by repeatedly pressing the button. Bipolar does not make you hallucinate. The security footage was edited. Who else would have access to the roof without setting off an alarm? I highly doubt she would be strong enough to lift the lid, and how would she even close it once she was inside? It makes me really mad. I wish Elisa could receive justice. Poor girl.

When they were talking about alternate dimensions “Do you really think this world is real? You’d have to be an idiot not to notice all the sloppy details” -Rick Sanchez

with the first story i bet they were experiencing extreme paranoia(maybe from a different drug) and felt like they needed to take everything and leave and thought they were being followed and jumped out of the car and ran into the woods to hide and maybe turned on each other or something.

hey what’s up you guys yes. welcome back to another conspiracy theory video

I bet this guy shifted back into his dimension and was like "yooo what a weird dream". Like what if we shift dimensions everytime we dream?

Hear me out on my theory about Elisa and the Cecil hotel for a sec. So I’ve read in quite a few places (this comment section included) that the hotel was known to be in a pretty bad area of town a and that there were one or two crazy people in the area known to the hotel for following young women in there. Something I’m pretty sure a hotel would never want the public finding out about. So, let’s say Elisa is followed into the hotel by one of these guys and there’s no one at the reception to help her out so she gets in the elevator and tries to get to her room, but sometimes hotel elevators tell you which floor has been chosen on the outside, so the guy following her goes up the stairs to the floor she chooses, and when she goes to step out he is there, so she gets back in and chooses a bunch of floors so he can’t see which she has chosen but inevitably it opens at the next floor and he is there again. She stays in the elevator and he knows there are cameras in there so he doesn’t follow (he’s done this before maybe) he just stays out there pressing the call button for the elevator to stop the doors from closing. She hangs out the door and has an interaction with him but we don’t see what she says because the hotel have clearly doctored the footage, taken angles where you’d see her killer out and pixelated her mouth so you can’t see what she is saying to him. Eventually she gives up and gets out the elevator, perhaps at gunpoint er threat and is made to go to the roof with him, he forces her to get naked and kills her then throws her into the water tank, throws her belongings in after her and removes the ladder, replacing it where her got it from. When the hotel realises there is a body in the tank, they check all the footage, see this shit go down and realise they are culpable for not having someone on the front desk, and for not doing something about this guy who is chasing their customers, so doctors the tape, not handing over any footage to the police where you can see the guy (or again maybe he knew where the cameras were so avoided them) to make it look like she is talking to herself, claims she is crazy and fashions the whole thing into a mystery.

What bugs me out about the passport story is, if he got on a plane from Torrid, there had to be other people on the plane, it had to go into an airport, how did just he get misplaced? Wouldn't an entire plane from Torrid have entered the airport? Or even if it was a private jet, him and a pilot? Maybe other people witnessed this, did they not question people from his flight? Unless Torrid uses another country's airport/don't have their own airport? Or he was traveling from somewhere else in Europe? Ah it's so crazy! Love it!

Tiny pet peeve - Julien keeps saying "toxology" instead of "toxicology." Lol.

schizophrenia is often misdiagnosed as bipolar at first because it takes a year at least to diagnose schizophrenia. just some extra info.

Watching old podcasts to fill the Jenna sized hole in my heart 👁💧👄💧👁

Julien lookin like a SNACC

YES I LOVE SPOOKY PODCASTS

"I like stuff like this cause it's not dark. Nobody disappeared... well some guy did but he's probably fine." I fucking love you guys

Lowkey through out the whole podcast I thought the shadow from Julien’s mic was a stain on his sweatshirt. Smh I need to go to bed

Apparently the toxicology report showed that she was taking her antidepressants (one the day of death, the other recently but not the day of), but hadn't been taking her mood stabilizers. Someone with bipolar disorder who takes antidepressants by themselves can push the person into a manic episode. I believe they also found on her blog/social media that she had been very depressed within the past few days, so it's entirely possible that she stopped the mood stabilizers because she /wanted/ to be manic, so she wouldn't be so depressed. Also, the physical strength thing: it's been documented that, during a manic episode, people with bipolar disorder can show absurd physical strength (kind of like with adrenaline and people being able to do crazy shit like lift cars because their kid was stuck under it), so it is entirely possible that she found some way up there, got in, and for whatever reason closed the lid. Maybe she thought she was hiding in there :(

JENNA!!! I don’t remember which podcast it was but I remember you told a story where in college you went to class and your notebook was all filled in and that class hadn’t even happened yet? And then you knew the plot of a Cheaters when it was new that night? What if you experienced the same thing the Torrid guy did but on a less substantial level. Holy fuck I’m freaking out rn.

For those wanting to know a little bit more about the Elisa Lam case: 1. Elisa herself had never had an episode where she would hallucinate or act as she did in the elevator footage. Her family and friends both validated this. 2. She was in a good, happy place at the time she first went to this hotel. Her parents confirmed this as she would call them everyday and tell them she was having a blast travelling. Even in her blog where she posted regularly it was noticed that she was posting positive thoughts and quotes. 3. When she traveled to the hotel however, she went there alone and most likely met up with a love interest she had been in contact with online. She states this on her blog. 4. After being discovered in the tank, police and investigators took a long long time to release the autopsy results. When it was released, the case was marked as "accidental". However 3 days later was changed to "suspicious" before hastily being changed back to "accidental". 5. Her autopsy shows she hadn't been taking any drugs, only had minimal alcohol in her system and additionally had been taking the correct medicine for her bipolar disorder. 6. Her death eerily is very similar to a movie horror called Dark Water where a dead woman is found in a hotels water tank after complaints about the water. 7. In L.A, after Elisa Lams death, it was reported thousands of people in the same area as the Cecil Hotel were infected by the highly contagious TB. A name for the test for that sort of TB is called Lam Elisa: Lipoarabinomannan (LAM) Enzyme-Linked Immunosorbent Assay (ELISA). 8. At the time of her death, the Cecil Hotel was under new management and was re-branding it. 9. The footage of the elevator has been heavily altered. First of all, the time stamp is corrupted so it is almost impossible to see the amount of time she was in the elevator for or to piece separate footage in the right order. Secondly, sleuths were able to somewhat fix the time stamp on certain parts of the footage and found a whole minute missing. And thirdly, the frame rate was slowed down to 15fps instead of it's original 20fps. 10. Reportedly, the last person to see her alive was a hotel worker. 11. While she was staying in the hotel, three registered sex offenders were also staying there. In fact, many criminals stay and go at the Cecil Hotel. All of this and more can be found on the RU-vid Channel: The Paranormal Scholar as they have done a documentary for the Elisa Lam case.

The Jamison family I think they might’ve gotten into an argument. That would explain why the money, phone, and dog were all left in the car. If She walked off with their daughter he could’ve chased after them. What if the drugs made things escalate. Sherilyn had enough and shot him, with the reality of what she had done setting in, she allows her and her daughter to die in a Murder-Suicide scenario. If someone else was involved, the money would’ve been gone in my opinion.

I know you may not see this comment, but I figured I would give some insight since you guys were curious regarding the mystery of the girl in the elevator. I am diagnosed type 2 bipolar, which means I spend most "episodes" in a manic state of mind. Mania is usually not accompanied by the odd behaviors she was exhibiting, like talking to herself, the constant checking of the hallway etc, however, if mania goes untreated, it can very easily become psychosis. Psychosis is a mental state shared by people of many mental illnesses, but is notable in people with bipolar and schizophrenia. Once a person who has bipolar reaches this state it is possible for them to exhibit otherwise unusual behaviors, like auditory and visual hallucinations, extreme paranoia, irritation, rage, and most interesting in thia case, intense strength, similar to that seen in people who get that "adrenal rush" when someone's in a burning building, or trapped under a car and they save them. If it is the case that she had bipolar, and was in fact in a psychosis state, its entirely possible she was seeing things, hearing things, and paranoid she was being followed. As for the door, isn't it possible she was pushing the "door open/hold" button when she was frantically hitting buttons? She may have been fleeing from something, but accidentally holding the car open in the process. But back to the strength aspect, it is possible, unlikely, but possible she was able to hoist herself up and open the lid herself due to her increased strength and hyperparanoid state, and died in the tank, unable to reopen it. That's just my two sense and personal thoughts.

You guys need SHANE for this.

for the first story; i used to dabble in hard drugs, and any hardcore addict couldnt even make $32k. no dealer would even trust them with that much to pick up like, a few pounds. for the wife writing angry letters, thats normal, its more of like a venting thing, but its not an act/plan to hurt someone. Since the child was involved with this, I think that they managed to get clean, had money to move, decided to have one last high on the road trip to buy a house, and ended up going into psychosis. the parents probably died by getting hurt from running around nature and possibly just exposure to nature with a possible argument + OD. The little girl was probably left alone and ran for her parents, or was left alone after her parents died. since it showed she was malnourished, she was most likely the last one alive.

I miss you Jenna

julien: *moves mike enthusiastically* jenna: wHat aRe yoU DoInG