[PoE 3.23] Trappers are Still Really Good / New Transfigured Gem Breakdown (Leaguestart Testing) 

video was a trap

Yes! Traps lets gooooooo! For what it's worth, the damage reduction from the overlaps is closer to 20% at the center point of the trap because it's partially offset by the much higher base phys hit of Explosive Trap of Shrapnel. In most real situations the actual dps uptime is quite a bit better than the normal Explosive Trap gem as the overlaps calc is reliant on the trap being thrown directly on the target, but with Shrapnel you get some grace in where the trap actually lands (which is why it "feels" better than the normal trap even for bossing damage when using a Sunblast). The other important thing about Shrapnel is that you can cheese more damage out of it than the normal gem by contracting the secondary radius where the smaller explosions occur. In invitations and Uber Maven, for example, you would throw your traps against the wall where they spawn in and can realistically roughly double the dps. After playing both skills for long periods of time I strongly prefer the Shrapnel gem over the normal one even for bossing.

I've started on ET of Shrapnel, never had a reason to swap gems while having really good damage and clear is godsent

We should also understand the fact that Ice trap of hollowness have way higher Single target potential, since duration is 2 sec and we can stack Throw speed with Sunblast way farher than on default trap (So almost 2 times more damage in this aspect)

What a great breakdown for the new traps. Keep it up.

Explosive trap is actually so cracked for leveling. You do SO MUCH DAMAGE! I was already planning on league starting it in SSF, maybe I’ll make that my project next league to farm a sunblast.

You can get mana using a mana flask where it instantly applies at the end of the effect. Then with a flask craft, you get a flask suffix that is always up.

next league tinkerskin and sunblast already feeling the economic impact of a single video

Sounds insane, deffs going to try something like this next league

Good stuff! Was already thinking about what i could leaguestart in the upcoming league and especially the Fire Trap one got me intrested. Think i can make this a good Sanctum farmer/bosser.

I want to start as ascendant next league, would you recommend traps for league start? Not as a permanent build, but something I can use to transition into another

Damn I was hoping you'd mention ET of Magnitude too. I've been playing in a .1% Private league (we all use 0%-.1% playrate skills) and I've been messing around on the various traps with a Sabo. Ice trap of hollow has def been my favorite so far. I think late game I'll go power charge Lightning trap of sparking

I love me some mines/traps and I love me some Palsteron guides. Next league sounds like a banger!

I didn't know that they finally fixed this. Thanks!

One thing to note with Trickster is that if you’re using Sunblast, you’ll need another source of frenzy charge sustain since charged traps requires your traps to trigger, e.g. the searing exarch frenzy charge implicit on your body armour. This is especially awkward at the start of a map when you’re at 0 charges. The wiki also says that skitterbots can still gove you the triggers and we'd run that anyways since it's a 10% more damage multiplier.

Surprised no coverage of the new transfig lightning spire traps

There is the Architech's hands that provides traps to benefit from cast speed such arcane surge, also sabo could run set ups with Vaal Righteus Fire to pre-load traps over the boss and get this massive buff from VRF. You should keep an eye on Witch-Occ Ice Trap of Hollowness with the Sun Blast set-up as a league starter, shea has BIG AOE, more ice dame, tons of critical strike and all in one choice

Are you planning to upload some gameplay of BLoS? Looks really nice. Had a busy week so pretty much missed all the streams.

I'd love a Ball lightning of static build/leveling/guide. never played top right of the tree and having difficulty finding an ele trap leveling guide.

I played saboteur with fire trap of blasting with ignite prolif, and it was a lot of fun.

so is the node that gives traps 10% chance to trigger an additional time just a 10% damage boost? if so i gotta get that lol

I am a kr user. nice to meet you. I was intrigued when I saw your Ball Lightning of Static trap. Do you have any plans to upload a video of the upgraded or research results?

Impressive to know this game so deeply...

Traps are my favorite playstyle on PoE not many people know but there are skills such as voidsphere and infernal cry that fix all of your cleaspeed on small zones such as temporal incursions, harbingers, blights etc. My current combo voidsphere + infernal cry + a single trap cast and the whole screen explodes I will only use this combo if I'm running slavedrivers and high cast speed otherwise it could feel clunky af... Also always use frostblink since it lets you keep throwing traps while dashing though monster packs, on high monster density maps you can actually frostblink throughout the whole map

i league started lightning trap of sparking was visual pleasing but hat no single target dmg. ( maybe it gets good with nimis but thats not a league start item)

Still waiting a video about ball lightning of static trapper build.. Also a link to a VOD in the description would be helpfull

saving this for next league lol

Would love to hear if you think blade trap of greatswords has any potential. Might league start it as an energy blades trickster or inquisitor.

Awesome video. More people should actually test things in game instead of writing them off based on pob alone.

Even without your video, I was going to start traps/mines next league. Probably ice trap, but maybe icicle mine or explosive trap.

Sounds like Fire Trap of Blasting is rounding AoE to the nearest 1m instead of the nearest unit (0.1m). Shame, I'd noticed the damage numbers looked silly.

The firetrap of blasting seems giga busted on saboteur with pyroclast mines of sabotage. Increased effect of mine aura means you need a lot fewer mines to hit the added damage cap from the mine aura.

From Hardcore Totems are very strong, you need to invest 10 times less in defenses in comparison with Traps, and with Ascendancy to make totems taunt when cast it’s very hard to a monster to target you, in this league the Primalist charm “totem taunts for 2 seconds when cast” along with the “Heals for 12% the damage totems take” makes it extremely strong even without using armour, but if you do find a way to get good defensive layers, Saboteur might work with a very high damage

As the current 1st BL Static on poeninja I have pob the build over and over when I wanted to try it with trap support I was really disappointed of the skill being that bugged. Now I've done some test and I think it's gonna be way better than the totem version I currently have. This skill is so amazing to play !

Cries in lightning trap

played both ice trap and explosive trap in gauntlet, felt very good. it had enough base damage and easy scale to get me to red maps. but sabo just has not enough defence and you kinda have to be at least on the top/right side for traps. i never seriously tried to win, but if i would have gotten to the point, i would have respecced into assassin and tried to at least oneshot the normal bosses. you can also invest a few points into trigger area and balance your actuall skill aoe for ice trap of hollow. the aoe basicly has to be slightly lower than the trigger and you have to find out the sweet spot for throwing. you get used to it, especially when sabo traps chain-trigger. this way you dont have to sacrifice that much aoe/clear with conq effect and still get a high dps. this can be useful if you want to use a different belt like mb.

Ice trap looks gewd!

I did a league start test run with Lightning trap and it was pretty good, given Heatshiver nerf it might be viable. Nimis is a huge upgrade even though it is very expensive.

same thing happens when you trigger ball lightning of static with kitava's thirst, the lightning ball is positioned wrongly, really far from the character...... it's not been fixed!

Never understood why trap playstyle is so hated in general :( That BL trap looks juicy

Isnt Ice trap of Hallowness only with 2 explosions isntead of 3?

are you gonna make ball lightning of static league trap league starter guide?

@palsteron Ball Lightning static trap leaguestarter build guide when?

when next leag start? and this leag end?

i need a ssf hc build version when the guides come

Im actually pretty interested in doing a ball lightning of static run before league start now, hell, probably trying most of these lol Side note but I feel like im the only person who appreciates sab's explosive expert notable. That node is consistently 25-30% more damage on my builds.

I just gave ball lightning of static a test run. The damage feels criminal, i think i have never had this much dps during leveling. Only shame is how squishy sabo is, I think i might cook something with pathfinder instead. Maybe i will finally click that flask consume node to double dip on a diamond flask for huge crit

No love for Lightning Trap of Sparking or Raider? :D Both feel amazing. Almost like playing spark, so insanely good clear, especially indoors. DPS is nothing to scuff at either. Scaling "traps trigger an additional time" is pretty fun.

Yeah but the problem is that you would have to play traps :/

Explosive Trap of Magnitude is also good, becouse of the 30% less Trap throwing Speed we can bypass by going Mine Support, High-Impact Mine being the best I believe. Combo with Swift Assembly now giving 120% More DPS insteed of it's only 60%

i have played explo trap this league and i tested base gem vs of the shrapnel, the dmg on of the shrapnel felt almost the same, if not slightly better, regardless it was a lower lvl gem, i have a vid about it on my channel

Underrated lol, too dps charts are traps

I'm playing fire trap of blasting sabo, already have 200,000+ million dmg on a budget, with solid 120 effective hit pool Started late this league and this skill has carried me all the way through the end game and 34 challenges atm

Is there a tier list for traps? Which one does the most dps

there's an interesting mechanic doing traps into mines, with trap and mine damage support it double dips and overcomes a lot of the downside from the damage reductions imposed by putting a skill into a trap/mine, paired with tremor rod and the trap masteries for additional trigger you can potentially get more bursts per throw 👍

Can someone ELI5 why you want CDR when running BLOS traps? dont the traps just cast one BLOS and then dissappear, so I feel that CDR should be useless (which it isn't).

Hmmm.....donuts.

Something I've been really wanting to do is wintertide brand. It was already a good skill but some of these quality changes are just slept on. It went from a flat 10% cold dot multi to 5% more damage per stage. It has 20 stages. It went from 10% multi to 100% more damage. It's one of the largest gem buffs they've done in a while. Pair that with even a min-rolled ashes and you just have rediculous scaling from a single item.

i love trap

I feel like Lightning Spire Trap of Zapping should be good. No CD, duration and AoE skill, one duration cluster doubles the amount of zaps that each trap does... But I never see people mentioning or playing it

someone summon trap enjoyer :p

If they don't fix performance, I don't see myself playing again and if I do then yeah trapper/bosser would be my choice Edit: I feel most builds are underrated until a content creator shows them up. Thank you for the video Pals 😊

I played explo trap of shrapnel with almost a mirror of investment and it was flat garbage. I still couldn't 1 phase bosses, and i died in maps often because damage was so delayed from the time of casting the trap. You need to be really tanky to tank mobs while you are waiting for the traps to blow. Ashes was a trap too. Its a good starter as its a big spike in DPS and clear for the few div it costs, the extra explosions are not worth it compared to something you would would be able to use in a +2 or simplex.

mhmmm, maybe RF with firetrap of blasting as single traget ? ;)

I really don't like MF it makes me feel like I can only play whatever is the best MF build otherwise im wasting my time.

Traps are no good on Xbox due to not being able to choose a spot for them to land.

New league when tho?

This vid not a bait. It is a trap.

No one wants and icy donut, there i said it.

Traps are so good your not playing a trapper. Seems legit

ayo

Traps always were good in terms of damage, it's just vomitous gameplay that always part of traps build

Trap league

Traps are stupid, not underestimated. Most visually and gameplay unappealing mechanic to ever exist. Like, who the fuck uses traps in a world that allows you to shoot nukes???