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Pogačar Does The Greatest Performance Of The 21st Century | Tour de France 2024 Stage 14 

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Tadej Pogačar was better than ever on the Tour de France Stage 14 with UAE Team Emirates pacing hard all day for their leader. Pogačar dropped Jonas Vingegaard on the steep Pla d’Adet gradients, winning his 13th stage in the Tour and extending his already large lead in the general classification.
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@Chiller11
@Chiller11 Месяц назад
I don’t want to miss any Tour de France action so I do 7.02 watts/kg for 30 seconds when I sprint from the basement man cave to the first floor refrigerator for snacks and drinks. Then I go full gas on the descent trying to hit the apex of the corner at the bottom of the stairs back toward the chesterfield in the man cave where my 52 inch flat screen is turned to the Tour.
@GaiusPrimusMatius
@GaiusPrimusMatius Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Real28
@Real28 Месяц назад
Bruh it takes you 30sec to get up the stairs at 7.02 w/kg? How deep is your basement?!?!! 😂😂😂😂
@tonyg3091
@tonyg3091 Месяц назад
That;s a hell of a deep basement 😂😂😂
@kimsejrskildnielsen6369
@kimsejrskildnielsen6369 Месяц назад
To win the race in classic Vingegaard fashion, namely by wearing down Pogacar, requires a team that is able to put hard pressure on Pogacar before last climp, instead Visma left the Tourmalet, to UAE big man Nils Politt !! Team strength and Kuss are missed..
@levislevitas
@levislevitas Месяц назад
it's mostly about fueling. pogacar tends to underfuel and get fucked up late. it's a big issue that's somehow still not fixed.
@DaM.1
@DaM.1 Месяц назад
​@@levislevitas It's more complex than that
@welanduzfullo8496
@welanduzfullo8496 Месяц назад
irrelevant, they rode the same w/kg (pogi a bit less bc hes heavier) on all the previous climbs, vinge got dropped bc he got dropped ie not being able to ride the w/kg of pog 🤡
@welanduzfullo8496
@welanduzfullo8496 Месяц назад
@@levislevitasbro what are you even saying man
@markuswiig4707
@markuswiig4707 Месяц назад
@@welanduzfullo8496 Different pacing plans can have an impact on the outcomes of races if a rider has better fatigue resistance than another. Is it the case that you don't believe a hard pace increases the fatigue of the riders, or that a rider can have better fatigue resistance than another independent of a difference in w/k? Not saying that it would have made a difference today, just that pacing strategies in fact can change the outcomes of races if the situation is right.
@GregBecker
@GregBecker Месяц назад
Thanks for the content and insight. I note that TP performed very well in the first week, incl. on the 2200m Galiber... and he did a lot of training at Isola 2000...
@marcotromp2610
@marcotromp2610 Месяц назад
I think we forget the situation this time is way different. When visma had wout,kuss, primoz and jonas it made tadej react to way more attacks than he is now. I really don’t think jonas has the team around him this year to help him beat tadej. Also having wout not at 100 and not staying on the bike is rough. Normally he’d take that superdomestic role to help vingergaard go on attacks on those big climbs but this year they’ve been cold so far
@WattPolice
@WattPolice Месяц назад
The time is making an absolutely minimal difference
@LeeLee-fi7mx
@LeeLee-fi7mx Месяц назад
Insane performance that blew away the field, right up there with Jonas's time trial performance last year! Visma's domestiques should have emptied the tank right before the steep part of the final climb, setting up a Jonas attack, but perhaps Jonas just doesn't have the legs this year after the crash recovery.
@WattPolice
@WattPolice Месяц назад
Jonas shape is great tbh. Pogacar just added two gears since last year.
@LeeLee-fi7mx
@LeeLee-fi7mx Месяц назад
Agreed that Pog has made incredible gains. But I'm amazed at how he was he able to make so much improvement. I saw an interview of him last year saying something to the effect of that as he's getting older, gains and improvements are much harder to come by as compared to the previous years. But based on his stage 14 performance and the time trial for which he was only 10 seconds behind Remco, he's on a totally different level than he was in the past 2 years.
@umaduro
@umaduro Месяц назад
The biggest surprise for me is that Jonas was second today and second in GC. That if you have any understanding of a punctered long injury and recovery it needs. If Tadej does not win the tour this year with this UAE team vs this Visma team then either did they did something strategically very wrong or Jonas is superhuman
@Real28
@Real28 Месяц назад
These guys arent human. Tadej is an alien. So thats like, mid 400s for watts assuming the 60kg? What. The. F$&k. 😮
@jademermaidmusic
@jademermaidmusic Месяц назад
He’s not an alien, he’s doping
@dgasmd1
@dgasmd1 Месяц назад
How this performance at the giro and now doesn’t scream as loud as possible “juiced up” I guess it is beyond me!😮😮😮
@user-ui6kv2np8i
@user-ui6kv2np8i Месяц назад
And JV wasn't juiced up last year for his TT where he was taking 8 seconds a km out of WVA ON THE FLAT !! Sour grapes are sour grapes
@jademermaidmusic
@jademermaidmusic Месяц назад
JV is juiced as well… Pogacar and JV are both cheating
@RTDKRunner
@RTDKRunner Месяц назад
​@@user-ui6kv2np8ithey are nearly certainly all dopers
@dgasmd1
@dgasmd1 Месяц назад
I never said nobody else was juiced. I said it should be obvious. Of the top 10 in yours in the last 30+ years, the one common and very OBVIOUS trait of “juiced to the max” has been a stratospheric performance with a face that says “I just got out of bed”. Look at his face and rate of breathing in the last 300 M and look at Remco and Jonas. The last 2 have their hearts coming out of their mouth. Tadej is barely breathing, much less being labored. That is not physiologically possible at that level Of effort. Just an opinion in the internet. I didn’t test him for anything!!
@ShawnStradamus520
@ShawnStradamus520 Месяц назад
Today Pogi GOTCHA!! 🤙🤙🇸🇮💛🇫🇷
@WattPolice
@WattPolice Месяц назад
W/Kg article with more details and stats: lanternerouge.com/2024/07/13/pogacar-possibly-does-the-greatest-performance-of-the-21st-century-tour-de-france-2024-stage-14/
@00100Matt
@00100Matt Месяц назад
Tour. is. over. Pogacar is so good now it's crazy
@lachm328
@lachm328 Месяц назад
hi, new to cycling, just wondering if eW/kg is the same as W/kg? also, if riders don’t post their power on strava how are you calculating it? cheers
@WattPolice
@WattPolice Месяц назад
eW/kg is w/kg for the standard weight of 60kg we use in calculation. more here about it lanternerouge.com/2023/02/07/watts-primer/
@J-cz7yv
@J-cz7yv Месяц назад
Why not adjust based on estimated weight. Jonas is for sure lighter than everyone else.
@WattPolice
@WattPolice Месяц назад
Iit woud be so hard to guess anyone's weight as it changed during stage with hydration and glycogen. Or even to know exact rider's weight in morning. Every calculation is done with 60kg standard weight, which is the best solution
@S9999Frank
@S9999Frank Месяц назад
@@WattPolice How can calculating data with all riders set at the same weight be the best solution, when it is very obvious that Tadej is a much heavier rider than Jonas ? The best solution would be to at least go by the weight they officially have, although not 100% correct, it will be closer than setting all at 60 kilos.
@na1chaca889
@na1chaca889 Месяц назад
​@@S9999Franksetting all at 60 is best way to compare everything which is most important
@welanduzfullo8496
@welanduzfullo8496 Месяц назад
yeah lets just guess some weights instead of normalizing the weight component 😂
@S9999Frank
@S9999Frank Месяц назад
@@na1chaca889 Not really, they should not even pretend that they talk about watt per kilo if the kilos are 100% wrong. With watt per kilo also being an indicator of doping, it is ridiculous to claim watt per kilo based on all being 60 kilo. 6w/kg for a 60 kilo guy is just 360 watts. Look at Abrahamsen he posts his data, and did just under 360w normalised power for a whole stage. He is doing 6w per kilo then, because we cannot be sure that he is heavier than 60 ?
@deanpesci8484
@deanpesci8484 Месяц назад
Uh, I don't think so.....Lance's "no gifts" climb will never be outdone......love Pog though!
@Real28
@Real28 Месяц назад
Lance who? The guy who had all of his stuff invalidated because he got popped? I'm an American, too. But that is _exactly_ where the doping made him who he was. Not in the flats. In the climbs. Nah, when he got popped, everything is deleted. If tadej gets popped, his gets deleted too. But he wasn't been caught cheating yet. Lance was.
@tysonogloff
@tysonogloff Месяц назад
except it's been out done
@jono1457-qd9ft
@jono1457-qd9ft Месяц назад
It's not 6.85 watts per kilo, that's just silly. These numbers are exaggerated bad bad calibration and everyone is afraid to say it.🤦
@WattPolice
@WattPolice Месяц назад
Over 2min faster than Armstrong and 90s legends Indurain and Rominger. Watts isnt exaggerated
@ShawnStradamus520
@ShawnStradamus520 Месяц назад
@@WattPoliceare the cda/wind conditions accounted for in these calculations?
@TellusJD
@TellusJD Месяц назад
Lantern rouge is quite exact, probably the most precice you get. They take everything into consideration they use the same methods to calculate old climbs. The hardest part to calculate is if there is flat sections on the climb. Compare to the doping eras the calculations work the same. And this performances puts Pogi in top 3 performances of all time only put among dopers. Only equal is pantani, riis, and romminger. But actually the only one beating him is Riis 1996 heutacam.
@tysonogloff
@tysonogloff Месяц назад
it is 6.85 w/kg, and it is indeed silly
@jono1457-qd9ft
@jono1457-qd9ft Месяц назад
@@TellusJD It's bad calibration. The best athletes are more energy efficient. Do you people not understand this basic principle?
@ryanphelan6861
@ryanphelan6861 Месяц назад
Its sports what pays off is pedigree and oreoaration. Youre not a tadej fan I et it I heard you say jay vine and sjelmos were better climbers ....your words. Tadej been racing sincebefore 10 he eides uncycleshes a prodigy. Jonas is cut from cloth of lance 2.9, froome, high cadence,high knees,spinning gear tadej wins on every surface everyfinish short ofschediprijs. He an athlete on a bike hes best ive ever seen. Its a myth to "gwo into tour' its actually a way to tell who actually does endurance cycling not just pleasure efforts inscenery. Thereis a ratio aftera training block thatbbpdy needs to heal muscles than loosen and become supplebefore you get benefits. Its why people use tour to train for olympics nobody strengthens over tour its insane idea. Eveeryone fatigues on slidinig scale. Idea jonas is week 3 mastyer is delusion. There are big mountains in week3 and he likes those but lets live in reality. He can win but utwill tajke badluck, illness, crash he isnt outracing tadej . Every year there is a favorte for a reason uninterupted trainingand showing form before tour. Everyone weakens in tour its on sliding scale based on peraration and attrition. Last year tadej had injury so held strong but week 3 faded in his posture, powwer, on his face. Same happening to jonas this year its sports science not rocket sciemce no matter what you guys want to think. Heres what hapened today its longest climbs after hard dayall tour so nowheree to hide the good condition or cream rises jonas was empty and tadej had poser. Long climbs, heat, JV having massive team to have kuss with JV and usually wout up road to offer reprive is difference for jonas. Hes never climbed alone from close to foot of climb hes lie paret-peintre except paret peintre face lookslikea person jonas lookssunken and pow. Not making aciussations but obvious observatoins. You guys are surprised and thinkingnnastiest things about tadejs erformnace one guy wins everything his training for this is a hell of a lot more that tirreno and tadej had matteo and full out trying to win tour jonas as leadoutd that he launched from and tempo to top. What did you expect? Been watching for 35 years someguys like stefan schumacer eyes bulging are freajs but this is cycling when you sit on doms breaking climbing records and then acceleerate from them you will break climbing records. Tadej wins everythnig and while hes lost a few ks he hasnt had metamorphisis like lance, levi, even jonas from 2021 is insane you cant carry that leanness and do those efforts on ketones he looks like UFCfighter cutting wieght for fight before the most intense enurance effort in spotrs. Any jonas fans should be pointing the thumb not the finger if anything. I dont care either way but ive been in same crahses as jonas one on each side actually and when your body heals it doesnt stay lean you have to eat to heal. His body chemistry is absurd nevermind performance for someone supposedly shoulder injury I wont even entertain lung injury. 35 years of watching this and read of all the others be pouliidor, ocana, coppi, bartali, merkcx, gimondi, van looy, devlaemick etc. Saw hinault, fignon, hererra, lemond. Enjoy race keep observing and formnig your own opinion its best way by far Tadej was classiest rider since2019 amgen, slovenia ITT, Veulta podium with 3 stages against primoz and valverede. Nobody has ever had such a postureon a bike facthe messes around on unicycle for fun he lives on bike hes just throw bck like merckx and de vlaemick where he wants to win everything in front of all sorts of fans ratherthan peak eery year for one race thats not sport thats an exibition. Give it time you guys dont realize how lucky you are no two have ridden at this level. Bartali and coppi were teammates then it was done by country. Tadej is the complete rider reminds meof coppi hes reclusive but rides like a romantic and will retire without caring at all about recordshe will retire when its not fun. He gives his trophies to his parents for CS. Lance was a triathlete not even [ure bike rider nevernmind cliimber I grew up in 90s he finished 2 out of 5 tours he attempted thats absurd. Tadej won l'avenir at 17 in 2017 hes always been best and podiumed vuekta 2019. You really need to get these stats and accomplishments down before you embelish them for some "alien effect"
@TellusJD
@TellusJD Месяц назад
Im sorry pogi has no buisness beating almost all the doped performances, I think the only one ever who did a better result was Bjarne Riis, there is possible arguement pantani also but pogi has no buisness beating these watts. I lost faith now. People have been talking about Jonas Doping, he was still on the edge of what I could believe in. This performance of pogacar is about 5% better than his best ever and more like close to 10% on his normal level of climbing when he still goes for it. He has never all the former years shown anything close to this level. Its like a sprinter in 100 m suddenly improves with half a second like if usuain bolt suddenly did a 9,1 sprint in the the later part of his career.
@christianmunk-christensen6568
@christianmunk-christensen6568 Месяц назад
how is it possible to beat the previous record set but uberdoped Armstrong by a whopping 2 mins? I don't think doping alone will enable that.
@eudyptes5046
@eudyptes5046 Месяц назад
Maybe Armstrong wasn't very strong without doping.
@michaellarsen6844
@michaellarsen6844 Месяц назад
@@eudyptes5046 Pogi full of dope
@FedericoG-p3w
@FedericoG-p3w Месяц назад
New bike, new nutrition, new training..why are footballers running 5x times those in the 80s?
@jademermaidmusic
@jademermaidmusic Месяц назад
Pogacar is doped to the gills
@NeverUkraine
@NeverUkraine Месяц назад
😂 "it's all natural" and i have some ocean front property in the Sahara Desert I would love to sell anyone who actually believes that.
@welanduzfullo8496
@welanduzfullo8496 Месяц назад
I highly doubt sola made any difference and the Inigo zone2 + 2x15min zone4 memes are bunk to begin with. Inigo's training probably looks comparable to Sola's, training is not the differentiator, top coaches cook with water, he probably just does a bit more tour specialized training and peaking compared to 2022/23 and nothing else. There is no magic training that elevates him from 20/21 to 22/23 to his form now in 2024. Its just natural performance progression from progressive overload, not some irrelevant coach change ...
@WattPolice
@WattPolice Месяц назад
maybe you're right but definitely Pogačar wasn't 100% happy with Inigo and wanted/needed some changes
@MeesterJ
@MeesterJ Месяц назад
A new training style definitely can make difference, what is this guy talking about? He got more explosive every year and trained on his bursts. They are less insane now, but his long duration climbing became better. Also on altitude. Thats why in Giro he could go on and on without falling still.
@welanduzfullo8496
@welanduzfullo8496 Месяц назад
@@MeesterJ 1. he didnt get more explosive beyond regular progression which really started to plateau anyways 2. His burst are not magically less insane, they are a bit better than all previous years 3. he progressed on long climbs as much as on short climbs, bc pogis power curve was never that steep compared to jonas's curve anyways. 4. Just bc he couldnt do the watts on Granon in 2022 and Loze in 2023 doesnt mean he was bad at altitude 5. The giro was just a limit test for pogi, nothing else. No competition, no meaning, just a hard training camp for pogi ... 🤡
@welanduzfullo8496
@welanduzfullo8496 Месяц назад
@@MeesterJ And to the first statement of your comment, no, unless you didnt train for regular ass climbing in the first place, detrain bc of injury or overtrain like crazy TRAINING WILL NOT BE THE DIFFERENTIATOR and I know you cant comprehend this ... 🍋
@out_spocken
@out_spocken Месяц назад
not the greatest in history. best in the tour no doubt. There's plenty of other better climbs that have happened in the tour. I get the hyperbole though lol It was epic!
@WattPolice
@WattPolice Месяц назад
All the top top climbing are from the 1990s before the Festina scandal/50% rule
@out_spocken
@out_spocken Месяц назад
@@WattPolice Ahh..I just re-read the title where you say performance. So yes...maybe based on watts the best. But I guess I think of a performance as more than watts and that it encompases the actual situation of the attack. There were some incredible attacks between 2000-2010.
@WattPolice
@WattPolice Месяц назад
@@out_spocken yes, I agree. climbing performance/single climbing performance would be more accurate but takes too much space in the title
@out_spocken
@out_spocken Месяц назад
@@WattPolice haha.. yes yes. gotta keep them titles as punchy as the climbs themselves lol love the break down and analysis !!
@MeesterJ
@MeesterJ Месяц назад
Contador Verbier was nr 1 since 2009
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