Point shooting is the only way to fire in close proximity to the the target, Day or Night. No need for lasers, night sites and so on. Additionally, one can start firing immediately once he pistol is out of it's carrying configuration and before attaining the arms extended stance as depcited here. Master!
I read a lot about point shooting when I was a kid- back when gun magazines actually had articles worth reading and taught you something. Fairbairn, Sykes, and Applegate all wrote articles and books about their experiences in Asia (Hong Kong, if I remember) and how it was absolutely necessary to learn how to draw and point shoot as police and military. I practiced a lot with a Crossman semi auto BB pistol, and got used to shooting like that. After a while, in the 90's, this was highly frowned on and even not allowed at the ranges I went to. I was an outcast, ostracized from the "normal" shooting community. I had to learn aimed fire (and still stick with the Weaver stance) all over again to feel normal. Eventually, I got back into point shooting (another BB gun- a Walther PPK/S look-alike) in my apartment's basement where I would not bother anyone, and had 7 yards to play with. I utilized a BB and pellet trap, that I still have today, mounted to the wall at chest height. It took a little bit of faith to point shoot after many years of not doing it, and was pleasantly surprised to see the shots hit the center of target at three, then five, and ultimately seven yards. Now I don't feel so bad about point shooting anymore, maybe it's time to come out of the basement and back into the open range... Thanks, Jerry!
I wouldn't recommend doing it defensively unless you had a good backstop behind the perp. 🤣 I agree it has its use cases and people should practice it.
Point shooting is likely to be necessary in a defensive event. When I can I practice shooting from retention position with wrist pinned to my side just above the hip. You cannot go to your gun until aggressor has clarified their intent and capability, at which point you are likely to be in physical contact. If you present gun to classic target shooting position, you are just handing it to them. Even if you create a bit of space, shooting from this position is very accurate at three yards - even for a mediocre shooter like me. Cuts draw to shoot time significantly as well. If you have space but not time, can start shooting at this point in your draw stroke, you can get multiple shots off before gun reaches sighting position. As John on ASP says - in a gun fight the first to put shots on target usually wins. Even if you muck up and put first shot into their leg, it will slow their attack, possibly providing time for your next shots.
When I was trained in instinct shooting back in the 70s I was instructed to start close to the target and to memorize how my arm and elbow felt on my side in relationship to the hit on the target. Then watch how slight movements in the arm altered the point of impact. When I could hit the ten ring regularly I moved further back and repeated the process until I was able to get solid hits as far away as ten to fifteen yards.
At first I was trying to figure out what the heck you were talking about then the lightbulb went on above my head and I was like oh duh lmao. Maybe Jerry should have been invited to show them how it's done lol
As other viewer mentioned, that was Mr. Jerry. If you just starting to learn these 2nd and 3rd Skills, you’ll always hit low. So start slow, as in all drills. I have “ not ” put the amounts of round down range as Mr. Jerry, but did start my formal training in 1977 on Paris Island, and have been practicing ever since. Yes even olé Marines need to practice and train often. And that’s what Mr. Jerry is referring to “Get Some”, and he does remind us safety start with ourselves ( and chamber Flags ). God Speed, Stay Safe, and keep em in the 10 ring,,,,,,, Semper Fi,,,
I think instinctive shooting is an important skill to practice. It'll only help improve all aspects it shooting. Sometimes you may have to shoot while acquiring your sights, or wont have time to even properly aim.
The speed at which you shoot accurately always boggles my mind. Also makes me feel better that even at 31 I still have a decent amount of time to keep getting better! If I'm 80% as good as Jerry Miculek I'll be happy haha
Wouldn't it be great if Jerry was cast in a supporting role for a western film someday? He'd make a great cattle rustler/gunhand, would be lots of fun.
I don’t know if it’s possible, go through the Jerry’s school of shooting. It appears Jerry can get along with anyone. Experienced, professional, and seems to be wonderful down to earth gentleman.
My dad always swore by point shooting. I've grown to train a hybrid. Assuming self defense distance, I shoot 1 or 2 as I present, then bear down on the sights
I remember reading about people who had the experience shooting, like Bill Jordan, who were able to perform fast draws and using point shooting to hit targets as small as necco wafers and even aspirin tablets!
Agree with many of the other comments, you made it look easy! While I may never be that good, I can improve! That's what I took away from this, I was able to improve a great deal after watching Jerry teach the Gould Brothers about speed sitting. Thanks Jerry! Keep it up!
Having grown up with the likes of Bill Jordan, Charlie Askins, and Jeff Cooper I shoot many styles. From hip shooting from the belt to two handed sighted fire. They all work but some, like hip shooting, takes buckets of ammo to get the index right. I am glad Jerry here used the cardboard block to demo true unsighted fire. Even when we use 'point shooting' we use our peripheral vision to 'see' the index relationship between the firearm and the target (roughly.) I find if you use dummy guns to practice technique in the house and garage (drawing and manipulation of the gun) and then live fire using .22 versions of the firearm and then transitioning to larger calibers works best (and cuts cost!) Do your gun drills in the house first with dummy guns till you are very confident of your skills then to the range and SLOW DOWN. Right come first, fast comes later (to paraphrase Hanny Caulder.)
So many people put all the cards down on being able to aim. When in a fight you may need to keep both eyes on target, you may not be able to aim. Point shooting and instinctive shooting should be in everyone’s bag of skills.
Jerry you are a treasure to your community, and I pray you’re continued blessings longevity and strength. Thank u for enlarging the minds of firearm admirers world wide #StayPlinkin
I usually think of point shooting like when I played a lot of paintball, didn't have sights so we look down the side of the barrel, did that for a few close range, high speed stages when I shot idpa years ago too
Yeah paintball is basically without aiming in general and you use the paintballs almost like tracer rounds. I don't think I ever tried to aim with them, always just lift the gun up to face level and let the rounds fly.
I grew up with b.b. guns, slingshots, guns, rocks, football...... instinctive shooting is learned early on... I still got it when I go out in my fifties.
There were SOG guys that trained this way in Vietnam, "quick kill" they called it. From what i remember hearing, they'd start with a bb gun from the hip shooting at little disc's that somehow were tossed up in the air. Then they'd move up to a real firearm like a car-15 or m16 or whatever. Then the disc's would get smaller and smaller as they improved. If i remember correctly it was man called "Dynamite" that said he was able to hit a silver dollar sized target at 20 meters at one point. It definitely helps when you have literally all the ammo you could ask for at your disposal. But in the jungle that split second could mean everything. The one whos quicker on the trigger is usually the one who walks away.
Actually the snowflakes are the people who worries about the dislikes lol You do realize that the likes and dislikes all work in favor of Jerry and his channel?
I saw a Master Class shooter use the instinctive shooting style in a match. I had to drop prone to see the targets, he kneeled down and looked around. I was in awe ! Still am. As a D class shooter that was a lesson in shooting for sure.
It was so nice to hear someone say point shooting is something you should learn there may come a time you may need it thanks Jerry of course aimed fire would be preferred
I did point/instinct training from 4 meters/12 feet with a retired dia officer. He was pretty good, he taught to lock eyes with the target tucking your elbow into your firing hip. If you felt the bone on bone from elbow to hip your alignment was good. Got pretty good results from it. Once you got good you can adjust from there to your liking. In the army we would do finger point shooting at 25 meter targets with the m4. Also effective.
Point/instinctual shooting is how my father taught me to shoot for self defense for many years and I was given constant grief from the firearm community at ranges, in gun stores, even later in life on websites for using it. I never understood why people hated it and claimed it was garbage. Even after I kept telling people that I only planned to use my handgun in self defense and don't plan in being 50+ feet away in some Hollywood movie-style shootout endangering lives, especially if it is at a distance I can just leave to safety. The comments in response to that are always posturing about how they would never run away or saying that they would engage in some long-range shootout anyway.
I trained in point shooting too. But the answer they gave you was very clear, they will go in to the fight meaning they have time to aim and they prefered the fight in long range. My solution was I trained them all but I would prefer the rifle in long range. Suittable tools and suitable tactics always make things easier.💚
@@anonymous.369 Its for very close to close range, its easy to practice, and its for outdoor practice. Treat the slide/barrel as if it were your finger and you are pointing. Your eyes should always be on your target and never drift to your handgun. You don't look at your finger every time you point your finger. He made sure, every single time we went shooting, to reinforce to me to treat the slide/barrel as if it were my finger and I was pointing that finger at the target. Then, practice. Bring your handgun up but don't try to aim down the sights since you are treating it like you are just pointing your finger at a target. I would advise to not use it at any real distance - it is really only good for immediate reaction self-defense distances and also for low-light to nighttime. Almost 95% of self defense shootings are within 3-5 yards. Outside of 5 yards? Don't use point shooting.
1:48 Soft focus is VERY important and not brought up enough. It's generally only ever mentioned in fighting but it's more important in for example driving.
Most of the people I've tried to teach that stuff to have managed to pick it up. However, they always want to know more about how I do my shooting; "What's my secret?".
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Be interesting to see Jerry move back 3 yards after the different methods of shooting. Until the results are so bad that you must use your sights to make hits. Wonder what the distance would be ?
Great Job Jerry !!! Bill Jordan would be proud !!! I did catch the other video, it's about time Lena does one.. Home made armor not so much !!! LOL .. Stay Strong and Be Safe !!
@@rottiesrule5285 yea I loved watching him do his quick draws..the one I loved the most was where he shot 2 balloons with what seemed with one shot but was 2 shots while doing point shooting
I think point and instinctive should be the most important type we practice. I'm glad Jerry showed this. It is under taught and under practiced. if you're in an altercation at that distance it's the only thing that makes sense. You don't have time to futz with red dots laser or even iron sights. Jerry's so fast his aim is faster than everyone else's instinctive but ours isn't like that. We need to get it out and get it firing and get rounds somewhere in that attacker. As you see even Jerry the best shooter in the world can't guarantee where with that style.
I got great at point shooting my lever BB gun as a kid, because I could see the BB's path. I'll bet dryfire practice with a laser would be great to calibrate your eye to arm muscle memory.
