@@Yomasi Possible explanation: Someone noticed the missing move in its learnset, but didn't know that it was accidentally put elsewhere, so now both have it.
@@Yomasiyes, but they could have looked at scream tail after making said mistake and then adding it to scream tail, but didn't notice it was on tusk or they just didn't care (game development under crunch causes things like this to happen)
Not trying to ruin the fun, but as someone who makes fan games and has seen decompiles of Og Pokémon games, the way Pokémon are handled in the system works like this Name Stats Ability Moves TM moves Tutor moves etc And can easily changed by just typing in a new move or ability, which likely means they just wanted to give great tusk random coverage moves like how 90% of gen 1-3 Pokémon have.
@@joshuabergman3292 uhh... Idk where you got the idea Copperajah was an Artificial Pokemon (Steel Type does Not automatically mean Artificial btw), I could not find a single thing pointing towards that, lists by people who care more about Artificial Pokemon do not mention it whatsoever, and the Pokedex Entries for it nor Cufant imply that instead actually going against it. "They came over from another region long ago and worked together with humans." "These Pokémon live in herds." Also states they apparently "know more than work" based off their personality mentions below... "Copperajah are prideful, cantankerous Pokémon. Specimens with vibrant green skin command the respect of others of their kind." The Green Skin being important to them also disproves the Artificial bit more as otherwise they'd just ask for a new can of spray paint every once in a while. (That mental image is actually pretty adorable 🤣) I don't mean to keep dragging this on but also, even if they were artificial, why would that stop them from being considered smart or at least capable? Every other Artificial Pokemon has appeared to have at least the same intelligence as any other Pokemon if not more in some cases such as the computer interfacing/dimension traveling Porygon line or the Psychic Type hyper intelligent Mewtwo... 🤷
It's even funnier when u realize that psyshock hits the physical defense. So it isn't even special coverage. It just uses its 53 special attack stat instead of its 131 physical while also having zen headbutt as an option.
jolteon has one like this, it can learn false swipe in SV only. False swipe is TH57, which before SV always used to be charge beam. i would bet money they accidentally screwed up and meant to give it charge beam.
Jolteon has also always had access to multiple tail-based moves while basically not having a tail, but that's the result of inheriting them from Eevee which did.
@HeraldOfOpera Jolteon only has full access to tail whip, this is ultimately because eevee knows it. Iron tail is only introduced as a tm or tr in like three generations. So unless you’re going out of your way to get the move put on your jolteon I doubt most people will see it being used. That being said it does have a tail. It’s the main spike in the middle.
@@hux0rd That being said, is Area 51 alien stuff that prevalent in Japanese culture? I know things like the Hopkinsville aliens are (hence Sableye), but I’ve always felt like Area 51 being associated with aliens was an American thing for the most part.
@@hux0rdit was originally a reference but it made sense in its moveset before, they likely forgot to remove it from their moveset and then thought hehe 51 and didn't remove it because they forgot it was steel wing under it because they didn't check
Or Smack Down, which is what I feel like is the move being reference in its entry. Smack Down makes flyers and Levitaters touch the ground, which is theoretically how Tink finishes off Corviknight.
This is bad, but Alolan Sandslash not being able to roll into a ball yet learning rollout and defence curl by level up will always piss me off more. That and Oddish having chlorophyll as an ability when it _gets sick in direct sunlight_
Past gens movesets sometimes were pretty random lol. Every gen 1 and 2 pokemon can learn sunny day, Charizard couldn't learn fly in R/B but I think they fixed it in Yellow. I don't remember but some pokemon also learned moves like Leer when reaching the 50s in levels 😂
@@MrZahsome When i hear somone say "they rushed the combat system" i laugh: "alright, we got the map, dex, items... Oh crap, the gameplay!" Yet you can find proof in Rhydon the snats' learnset...
Gen 1 had several examples where they very literally gave the Pokemon the wrong move. One famous one is how Lance’s Dragonite knows Barrier when it should almost certainly know Reflect instead; it’s a move that replaces a level-up move, which are otherwise only TM moves in Red and Blue, and Dragonite has never ever been able to learn Barrier outside of an event Dragonite that references this one. Another, much more tragic example is Moltres, the worst of the legendary birds both in-game and competitively in Gen 1. One of the many reasons for this is because its level 51 level up move is terrible; Articuno gets Blizzard, Zapdos gets Thunder, and Moltres gets Leer. Leer happens to be exactly ten indices off from Flamethrower, a move that would have made vastly more sense (note that Fire Blast is a gym leader TM, and Pokémon did not naturally learn gym leader TM moves in Red and Blue). This leaves Moltres completely unable to learn the move because it’s not a TM in Gen 1. If you didn’t save the Fire Blast TM, Moltres is probably not accomplishing much offensively, though it using Fly is still all right in-game at least.
Fun fact: there's actually a Japanese-exclusive downloadable PWT tournament ("The Legendary Rotation Battle!") that has a trainer with a Moltres that knows Leer.
Elgym/Beheyem could learn steel wing through TM in I think X/Y and ORAS because in the previous gen that TM number wasn't Steel Wing, but a move they're actually supposed to be able to learn. It happens sometimes.
For a more infuriating example of misplaced moves, Indeedee-F is bugged in raids where it can have Trick Room which isn’t in its natural moveset. This one bug is what managed to make Armarouge and Indeedee so damn annoying for early Gen 9 competitive (aka just before Flutter Mane was legal in Reg B)
@@regulargoat7259 it also wasn't the only raid exclusive move that was later just made able to teach, Magnemite raids could have Electro Web which Magnemite originally couldn't learn either
This ain't the first time this has happened (Steel Wing Beeheeyem my beloved) but it's always funny to build around moves that Pokémon probably shouldn't get
Steel wing beeheeyem was a pun. At the time, Steel Wing was TM **51**. A reference to area 51. They sorta just lost the joke later b/c they couldn't commit to the bit enough
I went to check the Japanese move name to see if it makes more sense, but it really doesn’t “Insect Opposition” Maybe it’s a pun? “Oh, you thought it was opposition from the insect, but it’s actually opposition TO the insect!”
I think you’re thinking of Alolan Sandshrew, and they are shown in the anime instead curling laterally to spin. Alolan Sandslash doesn’t mention anything about not being able to curl
this is likely for balance reasons, might make the strat too strong. Dangerous moves like that can easily break the game. Zamazenta didint get body press last gen, and now its the best restricted in the game even after a stat nerf.
@@Marvlousoin what universe is perish song bad? You use it to force a switch or to nuke their final mon. Max Revives exist (weird to think, we all been playing nuzlockes too much). Not to mention, you can firespin (keeping them trapped) perish song and then arena trap with a switch. Now your skeledirge is safe and they are trapped.
Nowerdays Beeheeyem knowing Iron Wing is a weird holdover. (It used to learn it because it was TM51 (Area 51) but then TM numbers changed and so now it still knows Iron Wing. For no real reason)
@@AutumnWoodham Well, it originally getting Steel Wing when it was TM51 absolutely was a reference. I think it still got the new TM51 in Sw/Sh but I'm not sure. But I think it keeping Steel Wing was an oversight
This reminds me of some infamous Pokedex entries where pokemon with extreme claims in the entry like "appears/heralded by tornados" can't use anything to actually create one like gust/twister/hurricane/whirlpool/etc.
Staraptor learned to learn Strugle bug so they can mimetize with their prey. And now I'm picturing Staraptor disguised as a Caterpie, getting ready for murder xD
Or Shedinja learning Rest, Final Gambit, and Substitute. Or Umbreon learning synchronoise even tho it’s a dark type. So many 😂. Idk if they still learn these moves but the fact they ever did is crazy 😂.
@davidstratton696 lmao it does make you wonder what they was thinking over at game freak sometimes. Don't even get us started on some of the stats, obviously they try to balance it for competitive reasons but like Onix done so badly poor thing has less base attack than god damn Ditto 🤣🤣🤣
@@Degenerate5909 Poor thing has base attack then many things (including baby and unevolved Pokémon). Like it has less base attack then Oddish and Oddish is a special attacker. And sure it’s got decent speed and amazing physical defense but that defense doesn’t mean much when your 4 times weak to both water and grass and not only are those quite common but most of the time they are special attacks. And especially in the first 3 generations before the split where all water and grass moves were special. Like a water gun would take it out. Honestly wish they would’ve redone his stats. Not only to make it actually usable but it doesn’t make sense that a giant Rock Snake that looks super intimidating to have less attack then something like Oddish.
Both of these I’m fairly sure come from the TMs in BDSP, as the moves with the TM numbers present in SV make a lot more sense using the numbers that match up with their BDSP versions (I believe it’s rock blast and roost respectively but don’t quote me on that)
Gamefreak messed up giving Indeedee F Trick Room when it's supposed to be a move exclusive to the male. This isn't intentional either because pre DLC you could only get an Indeedee F with Trick Room through Tera Raids and it and Electroweb Magnemite are the only Pokemon to get this treatment. And then Gamefreak doubled down and made it a TM move.
Mankey does in fact have a tail which is why primate and anhilape get it while Cooper gets punches due to quagsire having arms similar to lastly getting all the elemental punches dispite being an orb
@@alexskocy9948doesn't make primeape annihilape, wooper, or ghastly learning those moves any less funny/stupid. Especially wooper and ghastly, just save the moves for quagmire and haunter.
@@roguecloud5674 actually hunter and gengar can't learn the elemental punches because they aren't TM or Tutor moves they are egg moves which means if you want the punches on your gengar you have to get them as a gastly
This has always been a funny thing in Pokemon Incineroar can't learn Incinerate. Yanmega, Gyarados and Gliscor can't learn Fly. Neither can Garchomp or Druddigon despite the fact that they are shown to and referenced to be able to fly many times. Sandaconda can learn Hurricane...huh?? Entei and Zekrom can't learn Earthquake, but Spheal, Dunsparce and Politoed can. Gastly can't learn Poison Gas. Malamar can learn Thunderbolt, but not Thunder. Reuniclus can learn Thunder Wave, Thunder Punch, and Thunder...but not Thunderbolt??? Rhydon, Rhyperior and Golem are all Rock Types with abilities that benefit recoil moves, yet they can't learn Head Smash. Even though Sudowoodo, Corsola, and somehow Aegislash and Hydreigon can. Also Marowak and Aerodactyl, who also have Rock Head also can't learn Head Smash. Weird how they gave it to Steelix recently but noone else. But hey, it's the Rhydon line, who needs Head Smash when you have Tbolt, Blizzard, Fire Blast, Surf and Dragon Pulse? Garbodor can learn Drain Punch...but not Poison Jab. It also gets Psychic somehow. Cryogonal gets Attract, everyone has heard that one...but it also gets Solar Beam and Poison Jab...as a Snowflake Pokemon. Eelektross randomly gets Dragon Pulse, even though it has nothing to do with reptiles or Dragons. Same thing with Arcanine. Skarmory gets Dark Pulse. Insanely random. Skuntank gets Explosion. I'm sorry, how does a Skunk blow itself up to the point that it faints? Ferrothorn can't learn Spiky Shield. Swanna can learn Ice Beam, but not Blizzard. Keldeo gets Icy Wind, but not Ice Beam or Blizzard. It is one of the only Water types period to do this. Also Toxicroak gets Icy Wind, so that means absolutely nothing. Buzzswole can't learn Megahorn....but somehow Celesteela can?? Blaziken gets Brave Bird...it has no wings!! Amoonguss can't learn Leech Seed, even though every other Mushroom Pokemon does. Xerneas, the Life Pokemon...can't learn Recover. Conkeldurr once got Defog...how?? How does it create enough wind to blow away hazards and screens?? Golem can learn Fire Blast...why Lanturn and Ampharos can't learn Tail Glow..when Manaphy does? Scrafty can't learn Sucker Punch. Dugtrio gets Aerial Ace...and so do Slowbro and Maractus...how? Tauros and Slaking get Solar Beam. Gosh I hate it when my Bull and Sloth suddenly start harnessing the power of the Sun. Bronzong, the Bell Pokemon, can't learn Hell Bell. And finally, despite beings birds, as well as flying types for the first two stages of the evolutionary line, AND learning both Roost and Brave Bird...the Decidueye line can't learn Fly...bruh. So yeah. Pokemon Move distributions are absolutely fucked.
And some odd moves make sense from a design perspective, such as Dugtrio claws them from underneath for Ariel Ace but somehow does the same to those high in the air. Blaziken leaps at speeds relative to flight. Apparently Palmer's Rhyperior is so unbeatable as he claims that it can afford just Rock Wrecker as its sole physical. Grimmsnarl is just it's english name. It's original name makes no Snarl reference whatsoever. Perhaps Incineroar is the same? Them mosquito antennae attached to what seem to be eyes are probably too sensitive to use Megahorn compared to solid steel and bamboo. Gorebyss shell smash breaks its bra? What does Huntail Break? Others, probably balancing power. A megampharos with Tail Glow is just a buffed Tail Glowing Xurkitree minus the beast boost. Xerneas Power Herbed/Z Move Recovering Geomancy is just "kill everything in your way in 1 move...without help." Yet more may make no sense whatsoever. If Scizor has trouble flying, give it to Scytherand remove it on evolution. As a blade user, Kartana gets Air Cutter as a Useless Useful spell. Very good against terribly high physically defensive targets who'd laugh off a physical move.
Iirc dugtrio getting Arial Ace is due to wordplay that doesn't translate to English. I imagine some other moves and the reason for their distribution also get lost in translation.
I looked up what the psyshock TM used to be and it used to be false swipe which tusk cant even learn anyway Pre emptively editing for smart alecs: yeah it used to be flash cannon in specifically LGPE but please think for 2 seconds before saying that
Yeah LGPE was wack with its TMs, having the elemental punches there for the first time since I think gen 2? Also Pay day and Metronome TMs like in OG gen 1, why not
No. It is a special move that targets physical defense stats, just like psystrike and secret sword. If it was physical then it would proc counter (which it does not)
@@davidstratton696No, cause there is a distinct difference. It is still categorized as Special Damage, just targeting Physical Defense. This distinction is important for things like Burn, which only halves Physical Damage (even if it uses another stat like Body Press).
@@DemonVermin Bruh it’s still saying the same thing. They legit said it’s based on the special attack. When they said it uses special attack that means it’s not affected by things like burn and anything like that so brining that up makes no sense. Just because they said it does physical damage doesn’t mean they said it’s a physical move. They legit said it’s a special move. It is a special attack that deals physical damage to the enemy. Like I don’t get what your problem is.
I think it's because Fluttermane's dex # is right after Great Tusk so I bet someone just fat fingered the move object in the code for which pokemon IDs could learn it.
Uh, no it isn't. Flutter Mane is #987, Great Tusk is #984. You mean Scream Tail, right? Cause Flutter Mane is a Ghost/Fairy type. Also Scream Tail can also learn Psyshock, so that doesn't make sense. Pokemon is just weird sometimes. For instance, Happiny can learn Seismic Toss, which makes no sense whatsoever. And they could starting in Kalos and up until it was removed in Paldea. So it wasn't some mistake.
Seeing Pokemon have different moves in different generations made me think of the headcanon that they evolved different movesets in different regions - like very minor regional variance.
Struggle Bug might be intentional because they've done this before with Bug Bite (Carnivine and Heatran being very clearly not bugs that learn it - they're the ones biting the bugs). Psyshock is weird for sure though
Heatran is like a weird, four-legged lava spider thing (it walks on celings and walls), so I guess it makes a tiny bit of sense if you stretch it. Still weird.
Struggle bug in Japanese translates to "Insect Opposition" so it relates to Flying being strong to Bug atleast Also Psyshock is "Psycho Shock" which is read as "Saikō Shokkū" and Saiko could mean "Psycho" or "Awesome"
Slurpuff line having sticky web as an egg move is an absolute mystery to me. Most people still think its a bug exclussive move but nope, the fucking whipped cream gets it
Don’t forget about everyone’s favorite pokemon that through Tera raids could have the wrong move and was by the official rules technically aloud in competitive play
