"Pokémon Sword and Shield Art Style is better than Pokémon Scarlet and Violet" | Pokémon Discussion 

I prefer the texturing and detail of Scarlet and Violet, the grass, water and trees look great, but I think I prefer Sword and Shield's UI, it has more energy to it. Scarlet and Violet looks too "anatomical" to me, if that means anything. Also I significantly prefer battling in Sword and Shield's stadiums, with the lights, music and the cheering. In SV, you're just on the top floor of a school.

It's such a weird argument. That being said, I do like that Sword and Shield knew what they were. The graphics, environments, and performance were consistent. (At least once you're out of the Wild Area)

Been preaching this since sv came out. Say what you will but the game is simply not as polished as swsh

From the Switch era (so far) I think I enjoyed the artstyle of PLA the most. What makes it so enjoyable to me is that the game doesn't try to oversaturate its creatures and environment but gives it that subtle shade which I feel is very eye-pleasing and makes things look more natural while still being stylized. Overall however, I still firmly believe that Pokemon as a series shouldn't have gone 3D. BW had a very intrinsic design and is what I'd like to call the predecessor of HD-2D, which we nowadays see Square use to great effect in their titles. There's even some amazing design concepts by fans that show off what it could look like but sadly this will never turn into reality.

The textures of SV are p nice. But uh… yeah no the overall SWSH art style and aesthetic in comparison were way way better.

I think most of this discussion comes from the technical issues that SV has, if we got a bugless release many people would be praising the new textures and details of the game. I agree that each game has its own art, SwSh focuses more on the stadiums and battling while SV is open and focuses on adventuring.

I just miss the vibrancy of pokemon sprites from older games :(

I prefer SwSh graphics! Scarlet and violet might have a better texture but that's it. Also let's not forget about Ballonlea city in SwSh ❤

TBH I wished they kept the PLA design but fluff it up a bit more with extra details like Magnezone actually being metallic! That’s my opinion at least. 🤔

0:20 Nah. You wrong. The biggest problem people had back then was "Wild Area Looks bad" Wild Area and the memed OOT trees. The routes and towns looked pretty good. Just too empty and linear but VISUALLY pleasing.

Dude! I've been saying this since SV came out! SwSh looks so much better than SV!

The semi realistic textures in SV is what I find the most repulsive, because Pokemon is in anime aesthetics, and putting detailed textures on literal blobs without cel-shading looks horrible (and it's probably the reason why the game performs horribly). Games like Genshin have cel-shading, outlines with simple textures and they look infinitely better than SV. SWSH really starts to look good next to SV. SWSH and Let's go games are probably my favourite art-style-wise, because they don't try to pretend something they're not.

The art style in Sword and Shield had a more cel shaded look where as Scarlet and Violet were trying to be more realistic. A lot of this has to do with much the fans complained about how the graphics in Sword and Shield weren’t as up to modern standards so they tried to rectify that by giving Pokémon better textures like fur and metal and making the environment’s overall look more realistic. I mean it’s a video game series about cartoon animals fighting each other, and fans want it to look like Red Dead Redemption 2! Pick a lane, people!

I think considering the hardware that the games are meant to be played on, the graphics style of sword and shield worked a lot better and felt more polished overall. Scarlett and violet just feel unfinished to me. The pokemon look great most of the time and the people look fine but things such as the environment textures just look bad.

I just don't want the games to look and work like they're falling apart 😢

Scarlet and violet gave some people (including myself) motion sickness Sword and shield completely destroys SV when it comes to graphics and the art style of SV is a bit ugly they tried to make it “realistic” but at the same time mixed in the cartoony style of old games and it looks really bad

I used to shit on swsh so much but after playing sv i realised that it really isnt that bad and i way prefer it over sv. sv was just laughably lazy with the designing and aesthetics. Like wtf was that windmill?? That whole town just made me laugh from how bad it was. Theyre all just the same building copy and pasted 5 times. Even just the way the towns are layed out is sooo much better in swsh. They need to rehire eveyone on that old designing team asap

Everything looks better in SWSH imo, but the Pokémon models, I like them in sv

Artistically, SwSh is waaay more COHESIVE. SV have the problem of using multiple artstyles in the same game.

Zelda always has a different art style and all games except Twilight Princess look amazing and yes I count the 3DS remake of Time and Mask

I think artistically all the 3d titles are good. My primary issue with SV is that I don't see the art style as much as I see the lack of polish in the game. Arceus even ran into this issue but to a lesser degree. SwSh while not looking the most flattering in some angles, used it's art style to work with and even mask limitation of the hardware to make a great game visually (In a similar way to BOTW actually), with its more oil painting-esque aesthetic. That being said, I do love the art style of the DS titles. It felt like a diorama mixed with the old GameBoy games 2D pixel graphics, and I kinda want that to return.

0:13 "i hate sword and shield" I thought you love sword and shield.

I like both artstyles. The issue with Scarlet and Violet is the performance issues and bugs. I love Sword and Shield despite the stupid hate it gets from other fans. SwSh looks good, plays good, has decent content. Plus excellent DLC. Personally, I feel Sword and Shield are unfairly hated.

We all like different things, my friends! Well-polished different things! Thanks for watching! 😁

I love and agree with everything you said! Thank you!

Hi Ace, This video is great since I think it is now time to talk about that one last time and then put it aside for good. You know how it is important to me for a game to look nice to the eyes. Graphically, I loved every single pokemon from gen 1 to 5 and then, like you said, troubles began around gen 5 to 6. Gen 6 started to look a bit empty a little here and there but nothing too embarassing. In my opinion, Kalos was great (and I don't say that because I'm French. In fact it is the pokemon game I spent the least of time on). Then came gen 7 and WHAOOH ! Alola looked awesome and still is ! Wild Areas in Gen 8 started to show us the limit of Game Freak, really, like I said to you on Twitch, SwSh was only half-beautiful because of that. But now, in gen 9, Paldea look so empty... OK, I get it, we all need to ride our Miraidon/Koraidon as fast as we want without too much obstacles but d*mn ! It made 90% of the area looking ugly. It's a fact. In Paldea, Pokemon are great and almost look surreal for a Nintendo Switch, but everything around is meh... My last thought about all this is the following : for 25 years or so, I saw Pokemon RPG core games becoming more and more interesting, more and more complex, more and more enjoyable for so many reason. Gen after Gen I saw so many good new add-ups coming and going and on and on... It's great to grow and get older with the franchise (and the people at Game Freak). It does not excuse everything but I am thankful to witness what Pokemon has become nowadays. It is probably way better than what I was expecting when I start playing back in 99 since I thought Pokemon was going to die after gen 3, honestly. I was just not expecting ScaVi to be this good and so bad at the same time for so many different reason. Because of this, I stay 50% happy and 50% sad. That put a lot of expectation for Gen 10 for every pokemon lover. It will have to be epic and good-looking AF to shut the haters and trolls mouth up once and for all. Cheers!

As someone with mild sensory issues, the look of a story is really important to me. Mostly in the sense of whether or not what I'm staring at/surrounded by for the duration of the experience hurts my senses. Bonus points if it jives with my preferred 'flavors' and 'textures'. Anime, and pokemon by extension/especially, tastes a lot better than most things to me. 3D games rarely taste good to me. And pokemon's art style was super consistent for years, also a huge bonus for me. Gen 3's art style tastes bland and had a bad texture to me. Gen 7 I adore, but it straight up looks and plays like an entirely different series. Gen 8 continued that, plus used an awful color pallete and empty world. I love Gen 9's color pallete and return to toyish cartoon look, but its clear it was mostly accidental, which is a bummer. Swsh tbh looks a little better a few years out, weirdly enough. Both Gen 8 and 9 would look better if they were more populated and looked more watercolor. Btw the best tasting 3d games are lets go and bdsp. Xy and oras are close second. The best tasting games overall are a tie between platinum and lets go. Hgss aged well until a few years ago, and now they feel funny. Aesthetic is a weird science.

SV has better art direction, but SwSh looks slightly better since ir isnt as low poly and low quality imo Lets Go still is the best looking mainline game tho

the only thing i prefer from SWSD is the stadiums for online battles

for me its sword and shiled and scarlet and violet

Oh yes let's give pokemon a pass once again. No point of trying to critique since it's an opinion... oh well, as long as they make money I doubt anything we dislike will change. On that note, the graphics aren't the best, but they are the least of my concern when considering the magnitude of issues I find with the franchise.

It should be pointed out that E3 2019 served a *critical* role in escalating complaints and debates about graphics in Pokémon games to the degree it's been since Sword and Shield. If it weren't for that, being the removal of the National Pokédex, people would have not cared nearly as much about how these Switch titles look.

As far as at style goes. I like the art style of Arceus and Hellboy web of wyrd. Also i like the retro themed style as seen in Lovecraft untold stories and in Children of Morta.

No ones saying art style is necessary to have an enjoyable game. Otherwise what about pokemon Colosseum

It isn't the art-style for me, it's the total lack of time and polish given to them 😢

Well I'm not surprised that sword and shield looks better because THEY HAD MORE PRODUCTION TIME AND IT SHOWS. Arceus looks better than Scarlet and Violet as well AND IN ARCEUS THE MAP WORKS. Let's Go still is my go to have when I'm in bed of a break from Arceus lols.

SV don't draw my attention as much as SwSh. I hated Arceus at first, but after playing SP I grew to love it. I'm not a pokemon fan, I grew up with the og versions so I played them, then tried the second gen, but I couldn't be bothered until the remakes came out and now I can't stand Let's Go either now. Again I'm not a pokemon fan, but I really love Sword and Shield. Arceus now comes second to me. I don't think I'll get into any more new games coming out now, seen as SV bores me.

Half agree. The main thing that makes graphics 'bad' is if the graphics (style, etc) and expectations clash. Think bad cgi in older movies. It takes you out of the experience. I do think that can objectively be measured. The reason why older pokemon games, especially the 2d ones, don't have this problem is because it didn't present things as more than what was expected. The sprites could show character, attack animations the action. There is no 'scene' where they show those, tho. That scene needs to be imagined and no one expected more Now, when you have 3d animation, you suddenly have so much more information that needs to be filled in. The suspension of disbelief, that gap to be crossed, becomes larger and larger. If my character shows emotion, why don't my pokemon? If I can walk around in smooth animation, why can't my pokemon do so in fights? Think old style jrpgs. From ff7 onward there was a character that moved when attacking. ff7 came out in 1997, if memory serves me right. From that moment on, we expected more. And these latest games just don't give us that. So I disagree that it doesn't matter. Almost 25 years of expectations came before today. We lately see so many additions to pokemon outside of battling. But are those additions what people expect? No, they're fun additions. But what if those fun additions get added before expectations are met? Then they become a source of irritation. I stopped playing after sword and shield. I can't do it anymore. And I've played all games up till then. But the gap between what I expected to see and what we got became too large. And I don't blame others for having the same conclusion. I fear that pokemon is on the cusp of their downfall. I hope they course-correct in time.

NO MORE DEX CUT IN ALL THE FUTURE POKEMON GAMES!

I better Pokémon gen 10

theres no way you actually think that

Scarlet and violet are the best

Okay, this topic is rather interesting for me to cover, since I grew up playing both. Here's my take (If *'Read more'* appears, then click. This is gonna be huge): Pokemon Sw/Sh & Pokemon Sc/Vi both have great artstyles in thier own ways, I'm sure everyone loves the cosy yet lively feel of Sw/Sh, or the vibrant and adventurous feel of Sc/Vi. I'm willing to add to this debate by saying this: Sword and Shield are better overall. Scarlet and Violet had an excellent artstyle, sure. What it didn't have, compared to Sword and Shield, was proper optimisation. However, this is to be expected, because it's so huge and brand new. Sword and Shield's artstyle was still great to me (regardless of the Wild Area) and they weren't so poorly optimised. The fact that Sw/Sh were the cames to get me into Pokemon was just a bonus and Sc/Vi's bugs and glitches did indeed f*** me up once by softlocking me in a Tera Raid. Going a tad bit off-topic, but I just wanna tell you right now that this is why playtesting and optimising is so important, so for any of you out there who wanna make games in the future, all I can say is to *NOT RUSH ANYTHING.* Perfection takes time, but it'll pay off (Game Freak, I hope you're listening). If Sc/Vi were properly playtested and optimised, however, then I could say that I'd enjoy the majority of what Sc/Vi had to offer, aside from all the school stuff. I get the theme of Sc/Vi is the whole "you gotta learn about Pokemon" thing. However, the whole 'school' motif felt highly unnecessary. Like, weren't we literally doing that and enjoying it in Sw/Sh? I know I was. I want to love Sc/Vi as much as Sw/Sh, but I can't look past the whole school motif like I could look past Sw/Sh's Wild Area. What I also hate is the fact that you essentially unlock Legendaries through one of the academy classes (History class to get Treasures of Ruin). School is just super daunting for me at times, sometimes to a point where I just don't wanna think about it, then Sc/Vi is here to remind me about it. Whereas with Sw/Sh, I don't have to worry about that motif, so that's some major stress relief. Also, battling in stadiums did feel more exciting than just... battling in school. It felt more final, more climactic and more exciting. I'm... the least excited by school environments, so Sc/Vi didn't have as much impact on me as Sw/Sh's epic stadiums (where I got to see my Cinderace KICK A$$ on the battlefield. SO F***ING HYPE!). I will give both games a point, and take one away from them. The point given is for the music (THE ***GODLIKE*** MUSIC!), because I swear I ascend when I hear Professor Sada/Turo's battle them in Sc/Vi, or Eternatus' phase 1 theme from Sw/Sh. The point taken away is for the fact that THERE'S STILL NO VOICE ACTING! Like, apparently Game Freak says it "Takes immersion away" from the games, but I completely disagree. Actually getting to hear the characters' personalities through spoken dialogue. How is this done perfectly in spin-offs like Masters or the Pokemon Anime, yet completely squandered in the mainline games?! It's nuttier than Greedent, in the worst way possible. In fact, I can make a case for when VA came in and made something mainline Pokemon related immersive. Anyone remember Iono's trailer where she showcased Bellibolt? Iono had full, japanese voice acting. In Sc/Vi, she's quieter than a mouse, completely mute. If anything, hearing her enthusiasm would just make her more likable and the game would've been more immersive. Same thing with Sw/Sh (Leon's "Champion Time!" quote, Piers mute singing before his Gym Battle in Spikemuth, etc.), I would've loved to hear the personalities of the characters through spoken dialogue! It would serve to make the games *EVEN BETTER* than before! At this point, I'm gonna joke about how "Oh, Game Freak is able to make excellent Pokemon games, yet is too poor to hire VAs for them?" because it's funny and true, but also frustrating. Also, why did Pikachu and Eevee lose their voice lines in Sc/Vi which they had in Sw/Sh?! I loved laughing at hearing *"PEE"* when Pikachu Gigantamaxes. Now you just make them generic Pokemon cries?! Preposterous! My final verdict is that Pokemon Sword and Shield beat Scarlet and Violet by a landslide for me. In fact, I always wanted to bring Pokemon from Sc/Vi back to Sw/Sh to use them there (E.g: Tinkaton). Hate how Pokemon's moves change when you transfer them to Pokemon Sc/Vi, from Sw/Sh and vice versa. Anyway, that's me just about done with my essay. Sorry if this looks like a clusterf***.

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I agree that Pokémon let’s go Pikachu and Eevee look the best. definitely not my favorite game though.

The Scarlet and violet CGi realistic face is not good to me In MY Opinion, But Not Ever Hate Pokemon The New Ones Like Scarlet And Violet I Love The Cartoon(Anime-Like Tasty Epic Cool Soft And Awesome Style Than The Scarlet And Violet's Realistic, Lippy Lippy Lipstick, Realistic Skin And (Yuck!) It's Too Realistic It Needs To be Beautiful Like How Sword And Shield And Sometimes Arceus Looks Like Than Trashy Faced Characters Why Do People Hate Sword And Shield I Don't Think It's Bad It's So Perfect And Delicious Nothing Is Ba d About Sword And Shield Artsyle Graphics It Looks Wonderfully Epic And Deliciously Cool I My Opinion The Scarlet And Violet Human Characters Except Pokemon Are Too Much Realistic Nah "But Don't Hate Pokemon Always Love The Pokemon Anime Movies(1st Place) And Anime Series(2nd Place)"

I hope your trolling if not your probably going blind