Pokémon Unite is PAY TO WIN and it's Disgusting.

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Pokémon Unite is PAY TO WIN (P2W) and I have proof. It's a gross practice and I hate to see Nintendo and Pokemon allowing it to happen | Speaking of P2W, help me Pay To Win & Go to expressvpn.com/beatemups and find out how you can get 3 months of ExpressVPN free!
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01:22 - What is a MOBA?
02:21 - How ITEMS Work in Pokemon Unite
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05:17 - My ITEMS
06:03 - How much it Costs to LEVEL UP Items
09:45 - How long it takes to Level Up for FREE
10:44 - Testing my P2W in Practice
13:54 - Testing my P2W in RANKED Games
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@BeatEmUps 2 года назад

Edit: I shared some final thoughts in a Twitter video: twitter.com/BeatemupsWood/status/1420465515663867908?s=19 Comments saying ''I haven't paid anything and I still win", there are so many factors to consider there. For one, you are on a team with 4 other players. There is no way of knowing the ratio of players that have paid for content vs those that do. Your whole team might have level 30 items for all we know. Second, just because someone paid for the items doesn't make them a good player. You might be a really good player yourself, even without items. But Skill vs Skill, if you meet a player with the same pokemon at the same skill level as you, they will have the advantage. There are so many millions of situations and combinations in this type of game, it's impossible to predict what COULD have happened if a player had different items. But every time an enemy JUST gets away, or you JUST die in a fight, those situations could have been affected by paid for content. There is no way to have an equal playing field across all games and players while some players can pay to move quicker or have extra health. Not when it would take over a year and half to earn the same rewards IF you played every single day in that time. I tried my best to explain why a game like this can be so easily thrown out of balance by even the smallest of stat increases, but it's hard to explain to people unfamiliar with the genre.

@allen2reckless676 2 года назад

Wow a moba game that isn’t fair what’s so ever skill vs skill but with the item advantage they win. Lmao. Like u said team game there will never be a time you are 1v1ing cuz people are always coming and going. So their is no way if your a smart play to be alone and “1v1”ing. Especially in this game where the lanes aren’t that long. People will come team or enemy either way. You need to play smart not hard. You can play hard and that will get you far but never get you all the way. You guys are just hot garbage at the game. Period.

@ThatVirginian 2 года назад

I believe a lot of the disagreement has to do with the idea that because there is a max lvl to the items people will eventually be able to catch up. it is different from what most people see as pay to win. currently people who disagree see it as pay to get ahead. but it is not like other games where there is a pay wall. there will be a day when anyone who wants to be competitive will have all lvl 30 items, because of that the game maintains the validity of a competitive atmosphere. many people might see it like buying a boost. yes you get to lvl 30 faster, but eventually everyone else will get there too. so maybe you get a high rank season 1, but then season 2 comes and everyone has lvl 30 items.

@NailtiqueEmi 2 года назад

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@BeatEmUps 2 года назад

@@ThatVirginian eventually SOME players, after a year and a half of grinding, will get there. Yes. So for every new player is that the expectation? See you in ranked matches a year and half from now, whenever you start playing?

@chillmon7478 2 года назад

I am a f2p and spent not as much time in the game as some may think yet I do have a couple lvl 30 items, paying accelerates it but f2p players can catch up

@JmKrokY 2 года назад

Every MOBA ever: Gets money from skins Pokemon Unite: gets money from ITEMS

@FirebladeXXL 2 года назад

and skins and trainer cosmetics and battlepass

@nostalgiavlog9766 2 года назад

You don't even need to pay for those to win

@akashrakshit2657 2 года назад

you forget mobile leagend

@kaiji4788 2 года назад

@@nostalgiavlog9766 True but having those still makes you win more

@Pacman-rf7ro 2 года назад

IMO u shouldn't be able to buy skins

@PabloPinya 2 года назад

Why get a Masterball when you've got a MasterCard xD

@SuperPeterok 2 года назад

Haha nice. Beware my Visa boosted Machamp

@kuroryuken 2 года назад

"Dunking on the enemy team, Priceless. There are some things money can't buy, for everything else there's MasterCard" XD

@josuemartinez7131 2 года назад

Card of the Master

@cuzzlightyear0 2 года назад

Stolen comment…

@uriel9777 2 года назад

@@cuzzlightyear0 right? Every pokemon unite video has this comment at this point.

@blue_storybook3230 2 года назад

I thought the entire concept of MOBAs is that everyone starts at equal grounds and work their way up to the top and by the late game, your skills and teamwork matters, whats the point of a competitive MOBA if you already can have advantage pre game?

@mellomoose_ 2 года назад

nintendo doesnt like competition

@blue_storybook3230 2 года назад

@@mellomoose_ Then why make a MOBA? Which is one of the most competetive genre out there.

@Unicorn_Crusader16 2 года назад

That’s why MOBAS in general are just absolute dog water, if you’re not dealing with unhinged balancing; you’re dealing with more unhinged people and developers. LoL is probably the best yet unfortunate example. That being said though, Unite is at least better than LoL personally (Probably because it doesn’t have an actual text feature to make things more hostile). And while I find P2W crap despicable, it doesn’t affect playing without paying for anything too much despite the imbalance as you can still be strategic. If anything it adds some challenge, and the satisfaction of unlocking everything without having to use a shortcut makes things a lot more earned. So anyone who buys their way to the top are missing out in like more than 80% of the whole experience, so really they’re not playing the game at all mostly. At least that’s how I look at it. The only thing more toxic than that really are people who feed and idle all game, though those things are at least reportable. Edit: Just saw another comment talking about how even if you play without paying, when things get nerfed you have to play another hundreds of days to get another viable Pokemon up to snuff… I guess at least that’s more experience and practice, even then though I can see how it’s too easy to pay in now. P2W needs to be removed from any and all games, even if people already brought things and crap they need to be removed…

@ahmadghazaliizaddien588 2 года назад

@@Unicorn_Crusader16 this man really made a whole research just to reply someone in the internet absolute mad lad

@wintertriggersme6304 2 года назад

@@mellomoose_ Competitive Pokémon tournaments, Super Smash Bros, and Mario Kart: “Guess I’ll die”

@Craeonkie 2 года назад

When you have thirty level items and you haven't spent a single cent and are still rich game wise

@Feurigel1806 2 года назад

Meanwhile Bandai Namco: Here take this Pokémon Snap DLC for *free* !

@loturzelrestaurant 2 года назад

And if this does not include a Link, youtube probably messed up again... But if you can see the Link and use it, then tell me: Shouldnt we report such toxic-hyper-toxic people?

@leevisxd5166 2 года назад

@@loturzelrestaurant you tube messed up again

@loturzelrestaurant 2 года назад

@@leevisxd5166 ...RU-vid is... youtuby... if you know what i mean... RU-vidy... that shall be a new word now...

@MrBigwhite20 2 года назад

But the Game wasn't free! And I haven't spent a dollar in Pokémon Unite. And I am Master Rank and have all the Pokémon that are top tier!

@MrBigwhite20 2 года назад

@Artifice it's called patience... Like Resident Evil remake 2/3 and Re8... You can unlock everything with time and patience. Or pay to unlock all bonuses. It's only pay to play if you have no patience. I've unlocked all top tier Pokémon and made Master League all free. Research is key. They give you most good Pokémon just for logging in and doing challenges

@MrGollysnake 2 года назад

It should just be pay for cosmetics only, they’ll never change anything now people have dumped money into it!

@hotbritain 2 года назад

One way to help it is no daily coin cap

@majintv24 2 года назад

If the game was 60 bucks, had offline play available, and only had money go towards clothing and dlc characters then awesome but like it's not that and it makes me feel like I'll stop playing within a few months

@calvingomes2601 2 года назад

The Genshin effect.

@faridmahdis8909 2 года назад

@@calvingomes2601 genshin is a pve game tho

@LaNoir. 2 года назад

@@hotbritain Worst thing you could do, you ruin lives with unlimited farm time

@ReProjectSD 2 года назад

"Outpaid" I'm taking that. That's a perfect term.

@thekeksmilechef5658 2 года назад

Welp 1 month later pokemon unite released on mobile and now giving away 3 30 grade upgraders (i think thats what they're called) from doing something with held items but you just need to use them wisely

@andrepatricio6251 2 года назад

but its a moba, items are always going to be buffed and nerfed, you can upgrade an item thats good now, but in a month it can be unviable meanwhile whoever can afford it can have all the items full level all the time. its still an unfair advantage

@Bamblagram 2 года назад

Andre Patricio they completely removed buying items. You literally can’t purchase item enhancers anymore

@Raft-Rider 2 года назад

Even before mobile release thia game wasnt pay to win. Most items cap at level 20 after that they dont really get much better for example focus and muscle band

@sylphyx3573 2 года назад

@@Raft-Rider ikr its not exactly as a hard p2w the crystals are only need to buy pokemons or to buy held items and skins for u and for ur Pokemon and I'll be honest this video ruined my day

@P1car0 2 года назад

@@sylphyx3573 I got all items for this game in a week without paying This game is 100% NOT p2w

@andresburton2130 2 года назад

Me, a Legend grinding for 2 years to get my lvl. 30 Items: At last, my long quest is done... Tencent: To celebrate Pokemon Unite's 2nd Anniversary, item levels have been increased to 45.

@Mr.LooseLeaf 2 года назад

Im freetoplay at master rank...no money spent at all...items i actually use or at least 15 to 20...wood used a broken pokemon to prove this point as well which didnt help anything. But once again why do you need to upgrade all the way roght off the bat...just play and learn and get gud...im literally master class...completely freetoplay

@joshuasaunders7369 2 года назад

Two years? You really need to look at the ticket rewards again. It would take 17 months of just logging into the game

@bangalgar 2 года назад

If it takes ya two years you're doing something wrong

@Gummybearkillerr 2 года назад

@@Mr.LooseLeaf i rlly like the game but even i can agree it takes wayyy to long to progress and getting new pokemon is such a hassle its so expensive

@Sairus.1234 2 года назад

(Translate this italian-english) questo gioco non è paga per vincere... Io ho gli strumenti al livello 20 e non ho mai comprato niente dal negozio... Se vuoi potenziare gli oggetti gioca le classificate ed arriva almeno a veterano... In modo tale da comprare con 10 000 ticket 1000 strumenti per potenziare gli strumenti

@MrSweetPrince 2 года назад

I feel like people who don’t play mobas don’t understand how broken this can be.

@hteekay 2 года назад

Yeah I don't play nor care to understand game like this

@captainsoarineagle 2 года назад

It's really not that deep. The stat difference does nothing compared to skill.

@cheiftainvulpix 2 года назад

Don't really need to play MOBAS to understand. I've been there before.

@cheemslord9917 2 года назад

it true

@rudrickvalewalker615 2 года назад

@@captainsoarineagle But when skills are about the same, then the one with higher numbers win

@gilt-topic Год назад

Accurate for its time but now it’s much better now and I know cuz I am a free to play player, also I have maxed all my items I I have been playing since January 2022. I want to clarify that this is not a hate comment it’s an informational comment

@Teachermook Год назад

Seems like things have changed now...

@nelehrivera3095 2 года назад

Unrelated to the video but, can we get an update on “my riding stables 2”? I NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO JERRY.

@Clecle486 2 года назад

Dido

@idunno5536 2 года назад

Wat

@afibuffygirl 2 года назад

I 2nd this!

@tomp8260 2 года назад

@@Clecle486 My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why.

@timothyalexanderlewis 2 года назад

Same

@MonkeyDLouie999 2 года назад

They should matchmake based on item level. Get all the lv 30 users to play each other only.

@RadarHawk 2 года назад

That would be great but it won't happen. They want people to feel that their purchase was justified. I wouldn't be surprised if the game actually matches you against crappy players after you purchase something so you feel like your purchase was worth it. Kind of like that Activision patent from a few years back.

@coltman5562 2 года назад

Plus you would never find a game

@unofficialhotel 2 года назад

@@coltman5562 I’m positive you would dude the amount of people I see rocking the, what is it 30 dollar cinderance skin? I’m sure those fucks have maxed level items

@ronaldblanco1650 2 года назад

This could be a solution in fact…

@LukeGJPotter 2 года назад

They'll need to implement a Drafting system first. As the current matchaking is random.

@AndreRees 2 года назад

I disagree some what with this video. I am playing Pokémon unite for 1 week. I am almost maxed 4 items without paying! And I don’t play that much. There is loads of opportunities to get free upgrades and coins for upgrading

@pratishahn 2 года назад

Same, I have been playing for 1 week 1 day and I got 3 maxed items and 1 almost maxed items without any payments cuz I'm poor.

@91tik 2 года назад

Plus you get 3 tokens to max out 3 items within the first week easy

@pratishahn 2 года назад

@@91tik that wasn't in the game when this vid was out im pretty sure

@bahrahfahofficial1158 2 года назад

I've been playing the game for a couple of months and it's hardly P2W. And if anybody has been paying to win, I hardly knew about it. The benefits are so small. Anybody claiming P2W on this game either sucks or hasn't actually played it.

@AndreRees 2 года назад

@@bahrahfahofficial1158 exactly, this video is completely wrong in its assumptions of this game

@Peterphoskytos 2 года назад

Dude Pokemon Masters went so heavy on monetisation it was insane. I was enjoying the game grinding a fair amount, i was even thinking "damn with all this grind im gonna be OP for a while" all of sudden in 4-5 battles i hit such a huge pay wall and I realize the amount of money or time I'd have to spend to even do anything i just dropped. And it was also a shame because I was enjoying that game too. And as much as I don't like Tencent, i dont think they are the ones to blame for that one

@jeebus5063 2 года назад

14:53 this clip is insane. Not only did the boosted defence let you live to run a little. The bonus speed let you run long enough to not get hit. and the faster cooldown let you actually attack at the same time that the enemy caught up. Quite literally every item right there saved you without them you would have lost in 3 different ways.

@BeatEmUps 2 года назад

Somebody who can read MOBA 🙏

@chillmon7478 2 года назад

Alr that's bullshit, I am free to play and had plays like that

@cosmicseal7977 2 года назад

@@chillmon7478 Having the same type of plays doesn't mean anything.

@GoCrazy69 2 года назад

It’s unfair on a lot of levels

@chillmon7478 2 года назад

@@GoCrazy69 I'm f2p and I have 2 lvl 30 items and 2 lvl 20 items just using the ticket currency from the daily missions, battle pass rewards, leveling rewards and event missions so idk what you are talking about

@adrianflores4036 2 года назад

Well, when your name is Ten Cent, I would charge for everything too.

@mastaw 2 года назад

50cent 👀

@draxoz7949 2 года назад

The whole dollar

@lyianx 2 года назад

They skip the nickling part, and just straight up Dime you. Its in their name!

@benmatthews9129 2 года назад

it is EA all over again

@mouselim72 2 года назад

You see, the strategy of Tencent is to give the game away free, frustrate you during gameplay that you're not performing as well as you should and then take money from you through upgrades...that's how it is with Genshin Impact too... my nephew already spent more than $200+ on the game. Honestly, I rather put down $50 for BOTW.

@sifar1857 2 года назад

Good stuff. All the maths really makes you realise how expensive all of this is. I like how you mentioned that different characters need different items meaning you need to spend more if you want to play as different characters… Add on to this the fact that patches come out and modify how the items work making some items better and worse, this effectively means you have to keep paying money to stay relevant in different metas.

@AniGaAG 2 года назад

[DISCLAIMER: None of the below "absolves" Unite; the business model is bad, it does qualify as "paying for power", and the game doesn't deserve anyone's money. I'm just saying you can play and win for free perfectly fine _in spite_ of those things. And I encourage anyone to *_NOT_* give the game any money. Now, with that out of the way:] Things _changed_ since this video was made. The game's now balanced to where a new player can, without paying and within the a few weeks, obtain one desired Pokémon for each role, and equip all of them with one LV30 item and two LV20+ items (LV20 is the _important thing,_ where the item's special effect reaches max rank; from there to LV30 is a minor stats plus). Meaning, the way the game is _now,_ you can get competitive-ready within a few weeks without paying.

@diegoyoung2916 2 года назад

Yes you are SO correct

@serily4524 Год назад

Nope u aint

@AniGaAG Год назад

@@serily4524 I literally did it. And I have no stakes in lying, I never spent a dime on this game. And never would! I still think it's not an okay business model and therefore doesn't deserve money - so I'm not actually trying to encourage anyone to give this game money; I will _discourage_ people from doing so. But just _playing_ it without spending, yeah, I stand by it, that works like a charm.

@serily4524 Год назад

Game still p2w, wether u like it or not, the game isn't gonna get any better

@AniGaAG Год назад

@@serily4524 Does it have a disagreeable business model? Yes. Does it qualify as "paying for power"? Yes. Does the game deserve money? No. Does any of that mean you can't play without paying and unlock stuff and win relatively comfortably? Nope, you totally can. Just... y'know, _don't_ give the game any money. Just don't.

@logicalfundy 2 года назад

The big problem I have with "but you don't need to pay" - it literally takes well over a year to get to the same point as somebody who spent ~10 minutes and almost $200. Same thing with virtually all other F2P games.

@Kittsuera 2 года назад

the big issue here is we are comparing NO items to Max items. not lvl 1 items to lvl 10 or lvl 1 to lvl 20 or lvl 1 to lvl 30 or lvl 10 to lvl 30. level 10 for all items wont take over a year, shoot, it wont take even a month. you do not need to pay to win in order to have all the items you need in a week. and even then it would be fairly hard to not have at least 3 at lvl 10 which imo should be a baseline comparison.

@jaypharoe2662 2 года назад

@@Kittsuera that’s why I feel like these p2w vids are a lil disingenuous… it doesn’t take much to get items to lvl 10/20 and the difference between lvl 20 to lvl 30 isn’t that significant. They act like f2p players are all running around with lvl1 items.

@ovinophile 2 года назад

@@Kittsuera Exactly. When the difference from 0 to 30 is that you cross the entire map 1.5 seconds faster, 99% of players would never even notice that. Let alone comparing level 10 or 15 vs. 30.

@TheLinkhawkins 2 года назад

@@ovinophile this is true. I have not paid for any item upgrade tokens (I did buy the season pass). I have a level 20 item and two level 18 and a couple level 10's.

@Spyritic 2 года назад

yes but its actually making people pay on purpose because they give you a start with absolutely nothing and most things are overpriced

@SuperCred1t 2 года назад

I absolutely hate monetization like this. They should leave it at cosmetics only.

@silverhawkscape2677 2 года назад

Tencent sadly.

@dylansequeira3906 2 года назад

how you gonna add cosmetics to pokemon

@jeffreygrio3828 2 года назад

@@dylansequeira3906 maybe a skin like make the pokemon shiny or dress the pokemon up

@idk8912 2 года назад

@@dylansequeira3906 they did already put cosmetics

@xxcalibur 2 года назад

Add shiny variants as cosmetics

@martinkubat9193 2 года назад

Reminds me of runes from LOL when it was beggining. It was very grindy, but at least achievable. Now you have luckily 3 max grade upgrades for new players, so it isn't that bad

@jokokid4785 2 года назад

Thank you, I just started playing and was getting so confused that sometimes I could easily win a fight against a Pokémon but others against the same Pokémon in a different round they would curb stomp me despite me having an advantage and knowing I have easily won fights against that Pokémon before. It’s a shame I really just want a competitive game without lvl progression that makes a character stronger permanently. I understand a lvl progression that comes from playing but not from spending something

@praggodey 2 года назад

You can do missions and get three items to lvl 30 and 4 to 20 in a week Without paying you need one weeks patientnce and know laning

@jokokid4785 2 года назад

@@praggodey thank you. so far I got 2 lvl 30 items and a lvl 25 one because of the new lvl 30 item enhancers

@lgmsgmabolz8039 2 года назад

yep, those lvl 30 item enhancers are rlly useful

@Lord_Rowlet 2 года назад

Most lvl 20 item are the same as lvl 30 item except lvl 30 is more expensive

@Penneradio 2 года назад

You need to take care about lvl difference. And a item lvl 20 is enough good to roam. I have now 20, 18, 15, in my items and i rock hyper league with no problem. Tomorrow i gona lvl up to next league 👍 and i have a win of 83% but maybe this is my experience from heroes of the storm. By the way i like more because of more lvl up skills in a different way ✌️

@xSeb7780 2 года назад

I've been playing ranked games an going up without paying with my main being greninja and literally got to a point where i lose 1on1 situtations because of the item level diff, you still can win without paying but it gets way harder the more you rank up

@MayC23 2 года назад

What rank are you?

@SaitouMikey 2 года назад

How do you know the enemies item level?

@luckywright7285 2 года назад

I have gotten over that hump now. I have maxed items now, without paying. It was a little grindy. But, honestly, calling it pay to win is so disingenuous. It's a free game that's a little grindy. If you want loads of characters and stuff, sure, you might have to pay a little if you don't want to grind. But, it's literally not even that grindy. We are a week in, and I haven't played A TON of hours, and I'm nearly out of "Great" Ranking. I'd say that's not that bad. The real problem is not pay to win, it's that the characters are pretty unbalanced.

@StreetSharts 2 года назад

I've made it to expert lvl 3 without paying a dime so far

@divakaranchandrahasan7249 2 года назад

@@luckywright7285 Yup, Zeraora, Gengar and Gardevoir is totally broken. Thats what ruins the game.

@joury900 2 года назад

Wood: I played DOTA 2 so much - 1473 hours. My gf: 7000 hours.

@an3582 2 года назад

I know lol thinking 1000 hours is a lot in dota is so naive that i dont know If I could take him seriously

@e-man1916 2 года назад

I'm at 3000 and still learning

@mohdfarhan1389 2 года назад

I got 10k hours in dota and I think now i need to get a life.

@mandriluy 2 года назад

@@mohdfarhan1389 yup you just lost 416 days of your life In front of a screen doing clicks

@joltsy4935 2 года назад

@@an3582 You would that's enough experience to understand what moba's are the point here is that pokemon unite is p2w compared to other mobas you don't even 10k hours to know that

@riggo6830 2 года назад

It takes you like 3 days to get three lvl 10 items and less than 2 weeks to have them up to lvl 20, which is what most players are still running in masters. Having these items any higher does not increase the main effect any further but only gives you some more base stats. So you can use money to get an advantage (which is dumb) but it isn't that bad^^

@poonampandey6966 2 года назад

Please can anyone tell me When we will go and open this game for first time after downloading, will they ask to download additional data inside of 500mb or more less

@arielgomez8361 2 года назад

All you have to do is to get paired up with 4 other players that spend money, and you win.

@Borzogo 2 года назад

They pair up players based on experience, so newcomers don't get massacred as soon as they get the game. So to get paired up with other spenders all you have to raise in the ranks.

@matthewstubblefield7337 2 года назад

Right haha

@kennardcarig3373 2 года назад

@@Borzogo if there's money involve some smurfs finds a way to get that

@ELITECMDR666 2 года назад

Good luck with their broken match making

@77819 2 года назад

Wtf you don't need money to be good at the game lmao

@joiizzal 2 года назад

So true. I'm playing organically and when I lose I take it. But there is people that kill me in like 2 to 3 hits it annoying, that I don't even play anymore

@captainsoarineagle 2 года назад

Question, do you pay attention to enemy levels compared to your own? And kills? It's easy to blame items when items have a minor effect in the grand scheme

@phillipsherbrook5179 2 года назад

Items don't do that they are not that strong.

@phantomhearts5577 2 года назад

That’s more like level system.

@saysamnang9851 2 года назад

Just quit the game it disgusting pretty sure this game is going to died a moba that putting money allow u have 500+ state is consider pay2win and moba pay to win never succeed trust me it gonna died

@phantomhearts5577 2 года назад

@@saysamnang9851 how the fk do u get 500+ stats just from item lolol.

@johail3510 2 года назад

Not going to lie i came into this assuming it might just be a drama video, made worse with the ad but then i saw tencent and i knew something was up, and your examples and math were quality. You paid to win the game but you earned this sub

@DiamondFlame45 2 года назад

The scary thing is that many games are transitioning to this model of gameplay because it’s much more profitable. Think about it. A standard switch game costs $60 and normally people wait a year or so to find another game. Mobile game currency costs that alone for a bundle and developers don’t have to worry creating a new game.

@lacrouse3182 2 года назад

Thank you for the honesty. Some creators won't talk about these kinds of things because they fear offending big companies. Thanks!

@jonathanrodriguez209 2 года назад

I'm master and haven't spent a cent also,y just played a lot

@gorillasmoothie1585 2 года назад

Actually most creators who do play the game do talk about the pay to win and say it's not pay to win. And I think some may not wanna talk about this because it's negative and not because of a big company who might take down their vids

@ericklestrange6255 2 года назад

but u team up and a paid might just rank without a team

@HenryAshleyCooper 2 года назад

@@InfinateRadiant seems you totally missed the point

@u13erfitz 2 года назад

@@InfinateRadiant yes it is. A 1 percent chance is still an advantage. It’s an unbalanced game determined by money and not chance.

@AllDayWong10 2 года назад

Love that your brining this to everyone’s attention, but the comps I’d like to see is LEVEL 1 items vs MAX ITEMS (think this would be more accurate of the P2W argument). I think this is P2W but at the same time, ANY item is going to to have an advantage over no items…

@c0llinPM 2 года назад

I completely agree that we should see this. I know these items give a great advantage but it doesn’t feel too huge tbh

@andydevoe490 2 года назад

Actually i would like to see a comparison between level 10, or even 20 items and max level items. I payed like only 20 bucks on this game and have almost all level 20 items. And anyone can easy get items to level 10 and not may a dime

@theunknown7441 2 года назад

The best thing to do is wait a year to play rank lol

@c0llinPM 2 года назад

@@theunknown7441 if I’m honest, ranked is ruined not by items but by zapdos. Y’all act like this game has no strategy involved in it at all

@StreetSharts 2 года назад

There are vids on RU-vid of RU-vidrs who actually did different comparisons like this. Like 20 compared to 30, because that's where it gets insane to level them up without buying. And the difference is crazy minimal. People complaining they are getting destroyed by a team only because of item level difference, need to practice more.

@letlemon. 2 года назад

The title “and it’s so disgusting” is so true

@TehWrongGuy 2 года назад

I would love it if the ingame cash ajd stuff was cosmetic, then if they'd adapt the items to be bought when playing game like DOTA or League. Maybe I'm just complaining because I get stomped on by people who are able to fully max their items and I can't

@ToonfieldAnimations 2 года назад

"It feels really weird that it's Pokemon" *regarding pay to win* I guess you never played the Trading card game :P

@mr.j4924 2 года назад

I play tgc online and you dont need to spend a fkin dime to be good. There a video of a guy making a new account and getting legit card thru the in game trade system.

@Xcoolydiego 2 года назад

your a lowkey dummy haha

@hasaki_oce4611 2 года назад

@@mr.j4924 I am pretty sure there are many guys who dont spend a dime to be good in this game too XD

@tyheavenlywings7760 2 года назад

This is nothing like the ptcgo. That game is not pay to win in the slightest

@danansatwika326 2 года назад

@ltb1345 2 года назад

Repulsive. Imagine if Splatoon was like this.

@goonerOZZ 2 года назад

Yeah because splatoon cost $60 to buy to play. Should we call it pay-2-play?

@nlmod 2 года назад

@@goonerOZZ yes that's exactly what it's called....

@opensauce04 2 года назад

I don't want to

@coltonkleins 2 года назад

Been playing for almost a month now and never spend money in this game, and still good at it, if you want to pay and get the items first ? Sure go for it, but if you dont ? You still can get those items from level up, the most important thing in this game is teamwork not items

@Petite1993 2 года назад

Im not really an addictive player lets say that i could only play like 2 hours in 1 day and that is such an struggle to me

@martinarias4468 2 года назад

I'm in masters lol never paid once have all the items... only leveled up ones I used

@serily4524 Год назад

Still p2w regardless if ur f2p

@BenP227 2 года назад

Liked and subbed was gonna check the game out but now I’ll just leave it! Cheers for the vid!

@nathestelenlaer361 2 года назад

This is exactly why I avoid any game that's heavy on the microtransactions.

@yeahbabyhiyoamazingpeoples4247 2 года назад

da mony gos too ninetendo so itz goode

@7Write4This9Heart7 2 года назад

Same!

@Darth555 2 года назад

That's exactly what I do.

@andreasCH22 2 года назад

Extactly

@mojo2781 2 года назад

come on bro you cant say this game is heavy on microtransactions! Have you played the game? Because i have and it hasn’t affected my gameplay at all.

@o0RoboticChicken0o 2 года назад

I was so confused, thank you for explaining all this. I didn't realize you can actually exchange gems for tickets. That's why I didn't understand why people could get the item upgrades with the gems.

@Lord_Rowlet 2 года назад

If you want to save money level them to lvl 20 because lvl 30 is a waste and cost $30

@makemebad153 2 года назад

and yet you get tickets for free by playing the game. therefore = not pay to win.

@makemebad153 2 года назад

@@Lord_Rowlet leveling my items to 30 cost me literally nothing. Not sure what you're on about.

@Lord_Rowlet 2 года назад

@@makemebad153 I am saying to level to 30 it is stupid. $30 for 10 extra defense is not worth it

@zeusbolts5965 Год назад

@@makemebad153 leveling the items to 30 is useless it just raises the bonus stats

@Jahomies 2 года назад

They added super enhancers that you can get a few of for free they max the items instantly to level 30 and they are again FREE

@someguy1315 2 года назад

I do remember some one defending this game. They comparing to level 20 to level 1 gear. But they didn't compare a level 30 gear to level 1 gear. I later find out damage they can do over times. Like crazy.

@Chibilisous 2 года назад

All this, and not to mention the severely limited amount of coins and energy they let you accumulate per week 😔 I'm loving this game so much but the thorns it has are so SO apparent it really hurts.

@Alfredo-lol 2 года назад

It's very grindy for sure but every 2 days I get like 4000 coins and I try to complete the events and challenges..... and I play a decent number of games

@Chibilisous 2 года назад

@@Alfredo-lol it's the same for me, but the game's only a week old and I can't help but wonder how much of that boost in coins was due to tutorials and beginning player bonuses. Also, I've been trying to look it up with no luck, but do you know if the coin boost card boosts the amount of coins you get outside of battle as well?

@leinardesteves3987 2 года назад

@@Alfredo-lol thats because you might still have the beginner tutorial quests. If you're done with that you get absolutely nothing apart from the quests which gives a sliver of gold. It takes a whole week to get a single pokemon, not to mention the upgrade system is just flat out stupid

@TheSacha83 2 года назад

Aaaaw like a beautiful money rose 🌹

@PaulLorenzAguirre 2 года назад

sadly the limit you earn per week is not in tencent or Nintendo's control. it's due to china's (where tencent is obviously based) anti addiction law where they require game companies to put limiters to their games

@0293holder 2 года назад

Of course this is after the young crowd to get there parents to buy.

@lyianx 2 года назад

and since its not "Gambling", it wouldnt fall under that restriction, (if there WAS one, like their SHOULD be).

@goonerOZZ 2 года назад

Wouldn't it be the parents responsibility to limit what their kids can or cannot buy? Wouldn't this be the same as the "kids buying GTA" argument?

@0293holder 2 года назад

@@goonerOZZ In a normal world yes. But in this messed up world where parents can't watch there kids the companies know how to make money. I can't be mad at them. If I had a money making app I wouldn't care who's money it is....lol

@goonerOZZ 2 года назад

@@0293holder you can't blame companies on you being a lazy parent. Again this is the whole GTA is harmful to kids argument. I know what my kid is spending his allowance money on, and I review EVERYTHING he buys online. And it's not even time consuming or hard, I mean we have google at our fingertips! So no, even in this not perfect world, you being a lazy parent still counts as you being a lazy parent.

@0293holder 2 года назад

@@goonerOZZ Not sure why you are so negative but my kid is grown. She played every game I did. Including GTA and all horror games. And she turned out fine. If a game or a movie makes you do something dumb then you have mental issues to start with. Look on the news. All these parents expect the school system to raise there kids. And honestly I can blame who ever I want. I live in America. Remember a few years back all the parents wanted a refund from apple for in app purchases? Well they were lazy parents. I'm glad you are not but not my point. And pay to win is only targeted to people who have money. No way around that.

@mrfivehead258 2 года назад

It's the same with a pokemon game I played before. To get legendaries you need tickets. To get tickets you need diamonds. To get diamonds you either do daily quests or you buy em. You get 15 diamonds when you complete EVERY quest. So, 5 mins a day completing quests and 15 diamonds a day. It took me 65 days to get an Azelf and that was the cheapest legendary at 975 diamonds. The most expensive ones, for example, Groudon, would have taken 250 days as it cost 3750 diamonds.

@Mustangmache23 2 года назад

Wow thanks for doing that research I knew they were making serious money I've always been confused with the 3 currency at the top since I started playing

@EternalReplicant 2 года назад

Anything to do with Tencent should just be avoided in general.

@least.insane.femboy 2 года назад

I think Nintendo had more to do with this than anything. Tencent generally avoids pay-to-win concepts. League, AoV, CODM, and Chess Rush have practically no pay-to-win elements. I find it strange how this is the exception.

@nonofyabidness 2 года назад

@@least.insane.femboy nah bro I play a lot of tencent games since Ive been living in china forever n most of their games are p2w 😂😂 they're literally known for it

@MagikarpMan 2 года назад

@@nonofyabidness to be fair tencent has ownership over so many games it's really hard to avoid them. And not all the games they preside over are p2w. Look at warframe, it's known for being one the fairest f2p games on the market

@N3207H05 2 года назад

@@MagikarpMan lol isnt pay to win either... i could play agianst billionaires and they wouldnt have any advantage

@MagikarpMan 2 года назад

@@N3207H05 yh I said in my comment warframe isn't p2w

@kaneaquino8295 2 года назад

A better idea would have the items level up with your pokemon ingame. I.E., the Natural leveling up stats for your pokemon being boosted by your items that level up with you.

@Tandran 2 года назад

Watching this today is actually really funny.

@CV-lm7pv 2 года назад

Imagine grinding for a good portion of your life to get the Pokemon you want with all their exact level 3 items at 30, just to find out its being nerfted on the next patch.

@digitalshadowfox720 2 года назад

i did on some sort of pay to win game but i forge what it was xD

@CV-lm7pv 2 года назад

@@digitalshadowfox720 For me it was Plants vs Zombies Heroes. A 1v1 card game. My entire paid deck went to the shithole in a single update. That was the last time I paid on a mobile game 🤷🏻‍♂️

@playername9391 2 года назад

@@CV-lm7pv tbh that's just card games in general, atleast the games i've played

@coolbob863 2 года назад

@@CV-lm7pv I haven't heard that name in years

@hotbritain 2 года назад

I grinder Spider-Man Unlimited getting mythics for the game to be shutdown

@TheCreaTaur 2 года назад

The concept of coming in with items isn't that far-fetched considering these are only 10 minute rounds; just not enough time to farm and upgrade items on top of accumulating points to score. The problem is with the upgrade system altogether. Maybe instead of using points to permanently upgrade the items, they could've used a temporary upgrade system in-match, where the items you chose at start are base and passively get better as you level up, then reset at the next match

@royltbescheidenblake6187 2 года назад

So what your saying is the halloween event (super held item enhancement mission) just saved me £110+ approximately good to know

@aurnieferrer8737 2 года назад

mobile legends - emblems pokemon unite - items

@Sh1ne42 2 года назад

The boosts seemed small to be at first, but at the least you showed that they add up and can make you op. I just hope that the casual scene doesn't have to worry about this otherwise the game will die

@squirtleturtle6256 2 года назад

This game won’t die. It has the name Pokémon tied to it and every time people say no the game will die it didn’t. I mean Sword and shield people were not gonna buy and yet people bought it. Then about the PAY 2 WIN thing. All the money does is give those players a boost for a limited time. I and a few other free players I know already have 3 items that are 20 are higher. It’s just a matter of how much you play. I mean if you don’t want to spend money or time then you can’t be made at people that have better items. Then the overall question-How do you even know if the person kicking your butt is P2W or, just a person who spent a lot of time playing and upped their items naturally and also just had better skill then you? Sadly just like any Person vs person game if you lose your gonna blame the game be it they cheated or used real money because people don’t like thinking they just stink so it must be the games fault. Lol

@Dememonigote 2 года назад

worst thing is, his build was bad, if he got the glasses to lvl 30 instead which actually boost sp atk way more, he would deal way more damage with gengar.

@mins332 2 года назад

@@squirtleturtle6256 Idk how you don't question the idea of a moba where players can just naturally have better stats on identical characters before the game even loads in is not a fault of the game but okay lol.

@squirtleturtle6256 2 года назад

@@mins332 I’m not saying it’s not the games fault. I’m saying people that spend money only get a small advantage if any. I mean I’m a free player and already have 2 items 20+ and one at 15. I play a lot. Does that make it unfair when a new player goes against me? How do they know I didn’t as you and others claim PAY 2 WIN? They probably should just do away with the whole held item section then just to keep it fair so it’s only skill based. Then you only can get Skins and characters and is fair for everyone then. I don’t want to get rewarded for playing more then someone else with better items I earned because then it makes others sad. 🙁 That is probably what they will do just like League of Legends did away with Runes. Then you can join the game and be just as good as others who played for months or years. 🙂

@squirtleturtle6256 2 года назад

@szethapologist 2 года назад

Thanks for this, Wood. Not enough folks with a higher profile are talking about this properly and holding the game to account. Really great breakdown you provided especially with the footage that can illustrate to folks who aren't used to MOBAs exactly how much of a difference a couple of seconds can make in these games.

@b4rflady623 2 года назад

Wait a second, shell bell doesnt reduce attack cooldown? Or does it?

@RockeyTheUmbreon 2 года назад

Was playing absol and couldn’t understand why I went from doing great to a match with this enemy three hitting me with basic attacks amd running circles around me

@Zetos 2 года назад

It's been awhile since I've seen a practice of this system. Granted there r probs millions of games put out that're pay to win, but when it comes to bigger releases like this, I'd expect better.

@EpicgamerTp 2 года назад

I've been playing this game since the launch and eventually I am going to get to the point where I'm going to find people that have paid so much money where they're just stronger than me which feels a little unfair but I'm going to try to get good at the game without spending a single dime

@MayC23 2 года назад

What rank are you?

@squirtleturtle6256 2 года назад

I like your post! The problem is even when you do get good then people will cry, “HE IS PAY WIN”. The sad part with gaming is people can’t just lose with grace and dignity. If they lose it must be the games fault or the other player spent money god forbid they think you actually put time and effort in and had better skill then them. Lol Keep up there work! 🙂

@lou7888 2 года назад

@@squirtleturtle6256 but there is literally a set amount of tickets you can earn everyday so therefore its pay 2 win which is bullshit and just a big fat money grab.

@DeathnBloodx 2 года назад

its not like you cant win lol masters here and i only have 1 +20 item. and thats the sp stacking item

@dataroaming8518 2 года назад

@@squirtleturtle6256 Sorry to break this to you but in this scenario players who spend money are a good year and a half ahead of free to plays on every item, skill isn’t going to change that.

@burnoutgirlie 2 года назад

I started to play this game in December and I refused to spend a dime on it. I have 5 itens on level 30 till now, but I don't seem to get as many coins/etc as before. I've had Pokemons that aren't that strong obliterate me and my teammates as if I don't have any itens and it's really annoying. Recently I've been a lot on the losing team to the point where I don't even wanna play ranked anymore

@LKeshaba 2 года назад

true, I play most MOBAs on smartphone (ML, AOV, MSW, Wild Rift), but this one has the most significant boost on pre-battle item effect. I hope Tencent adjust or totally remove the "held item" system. If there is any in app purchases in MOBA genre, it should be cosmetics only.

@praggodey 2 года назад

It is F2PLAY now

@Oldstalk 2 года назад

I actually liked the game, but seeing this made me uninstall the game, what's the point if I get completely destroyed by people that spent 120 euros to get everything at max level

@uppertofu5816 2 года назад

Bro, I’m haven’t spent money and I’m in veteran, items gives very small boost but you can’t hit item lv10 for 5 items in like 3 days

@RRaaattT 2 года назад

@@uppertofu5816 true im veteran rank class 4 rn and two items to level 20 and two items to level 15 and it didn't take long

@RRaaattT 2 года назад

My name is waypastspeed bty

@duncanmacleod6274 2 года назад

This video, like many others at the moment, makes a lot of assumptions and errors in reasoning to overblow the effect of max level items as well as how difficult it is to actually get them f2p. First, a level 20 item is like 90% as good as level 30 at a tiny fraction of the ticket cost. Upgrading to 30 is a bad idea if you aren't swimming in upgrades. He compares level 30 items to no items at all, when he should be comparing it to what free players can reasonably get in a few weeks of play. It should be 3 level 20 items vs 3 level 30, and that's almost no difference. Second, item stats in general have almost no impact compared to player skill and team coordination. Yeah 3% more defense might win you a fight, but 100x less often than using your abilities with the right timing and correctly judging when and where to engage. Literally anything might win you 1 fight if your bar is this low; up to including your internet connection and size of your TV screen.

@ovinophile 2 года назад

If you’re getting my completely destroyed, then I assure it’s not due to anyone having spent money to gain a 3% advantage over you.

@79licorice 2 года назад

In a way it's a lot like being able to buy an extra piece in chess, depending on what tier of piece you want to pay for :P

@shumono3254 2 года назад

That's absolutely fucked if that's the case

@infusionscap 2 года назад

It's nothing like that lol. Half of the items suck and aren't worth investing in. Another big chunk of the items that are good don't even improve that much from level 20 to level 30, and 20 isn't that hard to get an item to as a FTP player.

@jamesbrincefield9879 2 года назад

I miss the days when Pokémon games felt more like games than products.

@Teddyburp 2 года назад

True af

@helio1556 2 года назад

games are products so I don’t know what you really mean

@xcept1281 2 года назад

@@helio1556 Yeah I was thinking that too 😆

@chesburkr5240 2 года назад

I mean… times change, for one. And two: did you not realize this is a placeholder game to fill in time and space before the next mainline games come out? It’s a spin off, its mainly there to fund the new games.

@aaljumaa2279 2 года назад

Currently when you get to level 14 you can get three item boosters that will permanently put your items to level 30

@zamir1430 2 года назад

Yeah and the items dont even need to be lv30

@mikecicciari845 2 года назад

THANK YOU WOOD! I was so upset that there was like no one talking how disgusting their monetization is.

@Lord_Rowlet 2 года назад

Do research it is not pay 2 win it is pay to flex because a lvl 20 item is fundamentally the same as a lvl 30 item but lvl 30 cost 5 time than lvl 20

@mikecicciari845 2 года назад

@@Lord_Rowlet "At Level 20, the item gives a whopping 400 HP and the special effect heals for 40% of the their max HP. At Level 30, the item goes from giving 400 HP to 600 HP. The 200 HP is again a big jump from Level 20 to 30 but an even bigger one from Level 1 to 30. Remember this is just one held item. A Pokémon can hold three at a time." A level 30 item is "fundamentally" 50% better than a level 20 item.. I've now done my research and confirmed it is objectively "pay to win".

@_ykarcaneedits_ 2 года назад

I just played Pokémon first time today! (Pokémon shield)

@waliveroliver5854 2 года назад

Did you enjoy it??

@time2e636 2 года назад

Unlucky

@mondongo_en_salsa 2 года назад

Too bad you had to start with the worst generation

@mu2137 2 года назад

I still never played a pokemon game, I just like this guys' content

@WonderMaker72 2 года назад

@@mondongo_en_salsa It’s definitely not the best and it’s definitely not the worst.

@royltbescheidenblake6187 2 года назад

Well I must be super lucky then because I only started yesterday and not only have they trial level 30 upgrade tokens but also theyre giving us 3 x max upgrade(permanent) tokens just for getting to certain trainer levels. loooool. Thats one character set up straight away I love it

@patrikgasparik8686 2 года назад

Not p2w we got 3 lvl 30max tickets for items so you can upgrade whole set. I recommend upgrading 3 versatile items that every character can use

@aprettydumbperson 2 года назад

I mean ur like a month late so a lot prob changed

@arpatio 2 года назад

It is somewhat similar to the old League of Legends' runes where you have to grind for gold to buy decent runes OR top up to buy full set of runes immediately. I guess pkmn unite is still grind-able but the climb in ranked game might be difficult.

@narutogmbh 2 года назад

You never could buy runes with real money ... Only rune pages

@fakexdd8979 2 года назад

@@narutogmbh he's talking about the old league of legends version my dude

@jaowow6203 2 года назад

@@fakexdd8979 oh he talking about old league. But during that time I'm pretty sure league still on riot hand and dont have any affiliation to tencent

@shia8938 2 года назад

@@fakexdd8979 if I remember you can't buy Runes with RP only IP back then...

@fakexdd8979 2 года назад

@@shia8938 You could

@L0ztZ0ld13r 2 года назад

This reminded me of For Honor when it first came out, you could put 40 dollars more and buy a bunch of legendary Items to kill your opponent faster

@emanmodnar2 2 года назад

I would like to know if the home country still has spending caps or not. A few years ago there was something going around about how the KR and Chinese game market kept shoveling localization MMOs and mobile games to the US because their home country had a spending cap but the USA didnt, allowing them to make quick bursts of cash grabs, because KR had something like a $200 spending limit per month. The math might be more interesting if those caps are still in place.

@GamingIsWeied 2 года назад

Be smart, it’s not pay to win it’s free to try. You just like doing things the easy way admit it

@teddybott3258 2 года назад

When running away from the Zeraora, you being on the slither of health could be down to your defence buff, the Zeraora being that low health before you do the final blow could be down to special attack, and another thing you didn’t mention is when he is chasing you he has used the discharge ability which does damage to Pokemon in the vicinity. You would have 100% died if you didn’t have the speed boost and I think in that situation that’s the most important buff you had.

@teddybott3258 2 года назад

To play devils advocate, there are more ways to get upgrade tokens, other ways to get tickets, and other ways to get gems. So those people who play the game a lot could with some grinding get there probably far far before 400+ days. But there are also other people who don’t have the time to play the game constantly and work and are generally busy and video games are just a hobby. This argument gets brought up a lot when talking about pay to win features in video games and tbh I see the point. These people work all day and come online to a bunch of try hards who have done nothing else but play this game and have OP stuff and they just wanna cash out a bit to be on an even playing field, and if the upgrade item feature wasn’t in the game at all then the people who play loads may not feel like they have something to work towards or see any kind of progression. I have bought gems in this game but until an hour ago I didn’t know you can buy upgrades (my bad XD) but I already have a couple level 20 items and a couple level 10 items I can spread across a few mons, so I don’t feel it’s unfair seeing that I’m only level 12/13 (I can’t remember my level but it’s around there). I am also enjoying the game a lot and will continued to play, and maybe buy myself a couple more levels on my favourite items if I get impatient with my progression XD

@kaiba5271 2 года назад

I really like how that battle pass thing doesn’t have any Pokémon (first 5 levels do)

@GabrielMolter 2 года назад

That battle pass is totally nonsense

@rustyshackleford6633 2 года назад

Battle passes are one of the worst things to happen to games.

@faceless-x-abberation8400 2 года назад

@@rustyshackleford6633 100% agree! Seeing a game with battle pass makes me wanna automatically skip it. I might be a little extreme about, but I just hate it.

@dataroaming8518 2 года назад

@@rustyshackleford6633 I think the battle pass progression system has a lot of potential, unfortunately it’s been mostly wasted by Ten Cent and other free to play games that sacrifice real progression for endless grinds that will only be relived with a credit card

@coltman5562 2 года назад

That’s not a battle pass that’s xp and leveling up rewards

@nikki7057 2 года назад

Na if you know the items you need for the pokemon you choose you can do it without paying. My main is Absol. I did his critical hit build without paying a dime and he's a beast.

@kuntakintae6984 2 года назад

This is regarding when it first launched. It's different now and they made it easy to level 3 items for free.

@nikki7057 2 года назад

@@kuntakintae6984 still good to have this comment incase someone comes across this video.

@kuntakintae6984 2 года назад

@@nikki7057 still p2w af tho if need to play more than one role

@nikki7057 2 года назад

@@kuntakintae6984 I think people who pay have a great advantage over those who when it comes to playing with a couple pokemon for your mains then those who don't pay but with time you can level up other items for other pokemon people just don't have patience.

@OwOIord 2 года назад

@@kuntakintae6984 how f2p player here and I have all the items maxed at 20 (anything over 20 is a waste of enhancers since you get basically nothing)

@wiseman_snap7346 2 года назад

So me and several irl friends (and a ton of discord friends) all made it to Master without spending a single dollar on upgrade tokens. How strange for a p2w game, its almost like you can't buy actual skill and teamwork. Yeah, you can pay to get there faster and people will get thousands of tokens in 2 weeks, so everyone will be on equal terms soon enough.

@zamir1430 2 года назад

I would pay for better teammates

@joshuasaunders7369 2 года назад

Can we talk about how the stats scale exponentially in leveling and linearly in items. The higher level the less impact the items already have.

@ArsontAngelfire 2 года назад

Shh, don't take away from his point.

@mastaw 2 года назад

That's actually the exact problem. If people steamroll you early on they will get exponentially stronger. You are assuming that the other team will even get to the higher levels.

@ArsontAngelfire 2 года назад

@@mastaw The games are 10 minutes. Unlike other Mobas, there's not really any inherent benefit to killing champs. The games are heavily weighted towards getting Zapdos and snowballing the last 2 minutes. Spawn camping can be an issue, but that's map design, not a held item issue.

@klopko249 2 года назад

Doode items in this game are weak. I looked stats on net of pokemon and items and upgrading most of them beyond level 10 is pointless and beyond level 20 completely useless.Those stats make almoust no diference. Yea you can deal like 100 more damage on ability but ability that make 2500 damage defult is not notisible you will kill your oponent in 3 shots anyway. Items do not scale vith levels of pokemon unlike pokemon stats so they are strongest in first fight when you are like level 4. Then they if they are fuly ubgraded make you stong as if you are level 6/7. But that is onli first fight later in geme they make no diference in how many shots you cill your oponent. And cooldown and atak speed bufs, dude those are like 4.5% and 7.5% THAT IS NOTHING. If your ability have cooldown 9 s what do you think 4.5% will change? You dont spam abilities and those who you spam have cooldown resets like Gengar hex. And atak speed 7.5%, it is the same pokemon who have most bnefit from it is Cinderace, Greninja, Ninetails(becouse it pasif) and Zeraora. Others are ability oriented and tise pokemon get faaaaar biger atak speed buff from there abilities.

@ArsontAngelfire 2 года назад

@@klopko249 Yeah, I'm expert class atm, and can't think of a time when a match was lost before the Final Stretch time. Zapdos and double points makes the whole game a toss up. I've come back from so many ugly games just by jungling and scoring at the end.

@SunnyCress 2 года назад

I feel like if they’re going to keep this they should make different tier sort of things so people with say level 1-5 items are in one and 5-10 are in another (probably going off highest score) because this is a disgusting advantage for people who can pay.

@vinceivansantilices9704 Год назад

Idk lvl 20 is Basicslly all u need and they give plenty enough to get them there and im not talking latr game you can get them at 20 after the first couple days

@edwinelmejor08 2 года назад

I haven't spend a single penny and I am in expert rank. I also leveled up almost all of my items to lvl 10 or more just with stuff the game gave me.

@W0lfMan26 2 года назад

I agree, so far, they've been giving me so many freebies the whole 2 year argument makes no sense.

@RephaiahTchazelIsrael 2 года назад

i filled my 3 items to level 30 in less than a week without paying.. but this video is 2 months old now.. maybe the developers made it easier 🤷🏾‍♂️

@augistineaquinas3325 2 года назад

how many hrs did u play a day and do u have a real job?

@Lejss 2 года назад

@@augistineaquinas3325 You get max level tokens that automatically level your items to level 30. That probably was not a feature before... I don't play a lot but my Gengar has all level 30 items rn. I only manage to squeeze a little of my time with my friend every few days to play some ranked and that's about it. So it isn't that hard anymore atleast.

@Lejss 2 года назад

Btw I have not spent a single ticket on Item Enchancers at all since I had no idea you could do that.

@marinko1862 2 года назад

@@Lejss Koji si rank jel bi igrao nekad?

@serily4524 Год назад

Nope, doesn't remove the fact is p2w and greedy

@MrMister5555 2 года назад

Yeah, I've been playing for 5 days now and I have gotten two level 20 items and one level 12 and one level 10, but now it's a slow grind. I've hit expert 5 and I'm sure I'll get into veteran if not ultra league by the end of the season so that'll be a nice chunk of tickets, but as much as I'm enjoying the game I'm also so frustrated knowing people can pay to have an advantage. I even have a few friends who have paid to get level 30 items, It definitely takes away the whole point of being competitive though. It's like if you could go into freaking pushup competition against guys with way more muscle and stamina than you, but just pay for for extra pushups to be added onto your score. It's so dumb and I'm dumb too because I bought the battlepass for the pikachu cosmetics. XD Thanks for always calling out these companies and spreading awareness and I love that you did pay to win so you could prove the point. That was a high IQ move. :D

@jeydomo 2 года назад

Thank you for your sacrifice and time/money spent to find this all out. But I still enjoy playing the game, not paying a single cent. Because yes I understand your getting numbers, and effects to your pokemon but so far I'm finding it more effective when NO ONE leaves the game or afk. Someone who is active, learns the kit and paces correctly can be more useful than an a.i. following me or chilling at base. Last small thing, your winning example of you vs Thundercat, you used hex on a poisoned target. You do hella damage.

@thinkinginsideout4053 2 года назад

I'm with the same boat with you. Just enjoy the game.

@fuffyo3584 2 года назад

@@thinkinginsideout4053 Yeah I'm trying to get zeraora and it's going good. So far haven't paid a single cent.

@Irystocrat1134 2 года назад

Very well made video. I'm playing unite rn without paying anything and I'm in the Veteran rank. High elo and I managed to keep up fortunately with my level 20 items

@Chandela- 2 года назад

You need good skills to be good at this game because half of the time I am paired up with Noobs and they are really so annoying. You are the only one who can change this whole game. I just practiced alot and reached master in just 3 weeks.

@manjusiyag1090 Год назад

The battle items just help you in the battle your skills matter and if you have good skills then you can win without fully upgraded items

@enough_luke9558 2 года назад

Not gonna lie I didn’t even realize you could upgrade the items😂

@iannoga544 2 года назад

Honestly same, I didn’t know till I was playing ranked with my friends and they asked what items I use, and what level, and I was like what do you even mean 😂

@nanaegyirackahtaylor9661 2 года назад

Same here! I was just so hyped and happy that the game came out, I miss a lot until I notice those little red 'notification' dots! LOL

@randomname9723 2 года назад

If it makes you guys feel better level 10 items are plenty enough to get to Master playing solo without an arranged team. The game is still pay to win tho, but it's far from the end of the world if you enjoy it.

@ammariessa7424 2 года назад

To be honest those iteams ll be fully upgraded naturally and the buffs they give is to much worthless to pay 45$ get basic iteams upgraded them to 10 is very simple The advantage fully and not fully is almost to none if ur skilled player u ll win if ur both same skills first hit is the winner those iteams bullshit u can check pants dragon he play at ranks and his iteams are not maxed and still the winrate he have 80%

@Kittsuera 2 года назад

i think you have to be trainer level 8 before it even lets you

@microslavery 2 года назад

Up front, they shouldn't have let you pay to be able to spend on improving your characters performance. It's really the best money maker they have though, since they can easily release new items that are better than the ones there are now - so people will have to dip in again, and again, where as ouftis for your person or pokemon require more time and effort. That said, I'd be interesting to know the difference between level 30 and 20 and 10 in regards to stat bonuses.

@invalidusurper6795 2 года назад

There is no difference from level 20 and level 30. 30 is just where it is capped and you are not allowed to level anymore. 20 is the max for stat increases on items.

@sgarrinda6948 2 года назад

wait then what does level 30 give u? better item passive?

@numbernumber25 2 года назад

@@invalidusurper6795 yeah so if that is the case then why do people want to get their items to level 30. Do you mean that there is not a major difference of stats between level 30 and level 20, or do you mean something else.

@DrakkAlm 2 года назад

@SGArrinda The Held Items Passive gains it's maximum benefits at 20 while 21 to 30 increases the stats the item gives your Pokemon. So for example Muscle Band grants your Pokemon 1/2/3% maximum HP damage on basic attacks and grants increased attack and attack speed. 21 to 30 will only increase the Attack and Attack Speed benefit. Stat differences are huge in MOBAs, so 30 is still desirable, but if you're F2P you should stop at Level 20 as that's the perfect power for your limited currency.

@tremu3731 2 года назад

Think this is perfectly fine. With the events that they normally have up there u get tickets a lot faster I think. Stopped playing a while back due to the lack of characters, but found no issues with using lower lvled items. I remember having a ton of items up to lvl 20 within a week, and keep in mind that the cost to lvl items up increases quite a lot after hitting lvl 20, but the difference in stats from a max (lvl 30) item and lvl 20 isn't humongous (items tend to get extra increases at lvls 10, 20, and 30 btw) All in all doesn't seem bad at all imo Thanks for demonstrating the difference between maxed out items and such tho there, it was very interesting. It's just that I normally only consider games p2w, if it's impossible for a higher skilled player to beat a decent player who has paid a lot, and here it's not the case at all.

@trepstechs5119 2 года назад

The only thing i hate about pokémon unite is the crit ratios on some pokémon are outrageous(absol, gengar, mr. Mime) just being at a base stats they crit way to high, now boost that with insane items(sensors, and razor claw) its so annoying to see those crit pokémons steam roll a 5v1 situation.

@MMooKow 2 года назад

"It takes longer for someone to finish Wood when he pays for it"

@jessiestinks 2 года назад

Loove a call-out video like this, especially if you have young audience that start to think pay to play is normal

@goonerOZZ 2 года назад

Pay 2 play IS normal, I mean how do you get your games? Five finger discount?

@bimg1915 2 года назад

@@goonerOZZ lmao

@orangemint6943 2 года назад

Ozz Lee LMAO LOL

@orangemint6943 2 года назад

I think you mean Pay to Win because Pay to Play is just like buying games(Video game copies about $60 or $45) in a store to play😂😂

@frogg002 2 года назад

In Canada, 6000 + 1100 gems cost about $140 and 60 gems cost about $1.40 plus taxes.

@theholocron323 2 года назад

wow. great coverage. thanks Woods

@parkerdude22 2 года назад

very insightful I was just diving into this game

@mismismism 2 года назад

The second I hear Tencent my butt clenches so hard I could crack walnuts. That alone is enough for me to never touch this game lol.

@KyleEvra 2 года назад

@parlangua89 2 года назад

You play league? Then stfu

@Person-ok3if 2 года назад

@@parlangua89 atleast its better then pokemon unite

@hotdogboi6829 2 года назад

@@Person-ok3if It’s not on mobile, its better than LoL

@Person-ok3if 2 года назад

@@hotdogboi6829 nah pokemon unite complete grabage Literally the worst moba Also poke unite coming to mobile too

@chrisredfield4324 2 года назад

in fairness, this is always how the series has been... In the cards, its a random draw for cards, so you have to gamble to get what you want, and in the games, you've pretty much always had to get a second game to finish your pokedex meaning you have to shell out a whole second price of the game to get all the content.

@thomasmorato5098 2 года назад

Perhaps but the biggest issue is using that mentality to MOBA's who never had these kinds of advantages. (Except for LOL but they have since removed it)

@joocebox8482 2 года назад

I actually didn’t know you could use aeos gems to get item enhancers lol, I grinded to get 5 of my items to level 30 which surprisingly didn’t take that long, maybe because they give out tickets Willy nilly to new players but I’ll keep that a secret