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What happened to Pokemon Trainer Red? It seems like Red became a bad guy through the course of Pokemon History. This Pokemon Game Theory looks to explore Red's personality as a Pokemon trainer and his actions that make him seem like an antagonist.
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@Verlisify
@Verlisify 6 лет назад
Pokemon Origins debunks every comment saying "Red is us as the player, so he can't talk" Also in Pokemon generations the other trainers are shown to be much more friendly even without dialogue. Gold smiles at the success of the Lake of Rage Mission.
@pusheencat5355
@pusheencat5355 6 лет назад
Verlisify Wait...Link >from legend of zelda< Is the player,and we get speech options in some games
@aveoki9102
@aveoki9102 6 лет назад
Pokemon origins is different from the games yes it is following reds story but that is a different red since it is not following the game red the generations red is the player red
@yottabite4603
@yottabite4603 6 лет назад
actually this theories has so many holes to debunked but i too lazy to write about it because there gonna be a lot of sentence and word and i sure some of viewer is lazy to click readmore button because of it.
@dhikan4n031
@dhikan4n031 6 лет назад
suck bleach huh i thought i the only one think that this theory full of holes but who i am kidding of course it is. some of theory full of hole and some of it full of missunderstanding or error that why it call theory there no guarantee that 100% true. but you can enlighten us with your debunk comment i sure some of us appreciate your hardwork for debunked this theory for us.(if your not too lazy to writed that is)
@CodeguruX
@CodeguruX 6 лет назад
Red is us as the player. It's been more than 20 years, get over it.
@zeyode
@zeyode 6 лет назад
Or it could just be that canon red is literally mute. Also, being cold, not being talkative, and not being friendly don't inherently make you evil.
@winkading
@winkading 6 лет назад
Very true
@lloydother
@lloydother 6 лет назад
you didnt watch the anime didnt you? red's journey and all that
@kono5933
@kono5933 6 лет назад
Poopergeist nothing inherently makes you evil.
@amurderofdrunkcrows2587
@amurderofdrunkcrows2587 6 лет назад
yes you get it!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
@gregorythestallion2984
@gregorythestallion2984 6 лет назад
He is not mute
@jachariah4694
@jachariah4694 6 лет назад
5:51 Literally just showed a scene where Red is putting Pokémon first and shaming Blue for not doing the same
@LucarioShirona
@LucarioShirona 6 лет назад
Jachariah as a point of Red being a good character, this is also believed to the breaking point. The video does make a realistic point on why Blue decided not to help.
@stacyhigginsya1820
@stacyhigginsya1820 6 лет назад
Jachariah He looks psycho tbh
@grumpypikachu8315
@grumpypikachu8315 5 лет назад
He's honestly probs trolling but he sounds like he doesn't even belive what he's saying
@sharonfalkiner2463
@sharonfalkiner2463 5 лет назад
.
@kris_user7744
@kris_user7744 3 года назад
No hate. Blue does care. He's just scared to face team rocket and like a normal person you let the athorities hadle it. I mean in real life (Wich the video is more likely a realistic point of view) you can't just charge into evil organizations. It might cause a ruckus. Just my opinion though.
@zachywatcher2312
@zachywatcher2312 6 лет назад
blue isn't a dick in the first gen's dialogue. He even gives tips! But garry from the anime in other hand...
@neonbliss1925
@neonbliss1925 6 лет назад
Blue isn't a jerk, he just thinks you smell good and wants to smell you later
@typhos2ndchannel177
@typhos2ndchannel177 6 лет назад
Shiny Flygon lol
@omegahaxors9-11
@omegahaxors9-11 6 лет назад
You would probably change your mind when you see the cut lines. They likely weren't added because they made you hate him WAY too much. Just imagine you slog through the E4 and finally beat the final boss, only to lose to him and have to hear him monologue about how great he is, followed with a "Nice try, loser! Hahaha!" Not adding those lines certainly changed his character, but I would imagine that Red had gone through a similar transformation, only less verbose.
@digestkana2690
@digestkana2690 5 лет назад
@@neonbliss1925 lmfaooo thank u man u made my day
@myristicina.
@myristicina. 5 лет назад
Lawrence Gaming ew
@LouveAsterion
@LouveAsterion 6 лет назад
I actually love what they did, red and blue became so mature
@nebuladog
@nebuladog 6 лет назад
Machore
@rekunya6154
@rekunya6154 6 лет назад
Nebula Dog no it's "mature"
@nebuladog
@nebuladog 6 лет назад
No in English is machore
@inxtinqt
@inxtinqt 6 лет назад
Nebula Dog wtf...
@rekunya6154
@rekunya6154 6 лет назад
Nebula Dog no. It's spelled "mature". Look it up.
@SuperDerrick
@SuperDerrick 6 лет назад
Maybe red is a competitive battler???
@Blazerage
@Blazerage 6 лет назад
Super Derrick 1992 😂😂
@Georgefloydthesneedster
@Georgefloydthesneedster 5 лет назад
Lmao
@ashtongrey6755
@ashtongrey6755 5 лет назад
Super Derrick 1992 lol ikr the guy in this video acts like competitive battling doesn’t exist and he acts like it’s never been apart of reds nature the dumbass 😂
@glassymoone8986
@glassymoone8986 5 лет назад
Tea tbh competitive battler pokemon fans lowkey annoy me because they all use the same pokemon and don’t know how to actually enjoy the games it’s kinda sad.
@salarali424
@salarali424 5 лет назад
nope red has become kaneki from tokyo ghoul XD
@Calpsotoma
@Calpsotoma 6 лет назад
Red always wears a neutral mask. It makes him relatable to the character. He is stoic and cool. Blue was humbled by Red and has grown.
@remnantryku7112
@remnantryku7112 5 лет назад
Blue: “I made it to the end of the game.” Red: “And now you’ll face the final boss: Me.”
@BlaizedAsh
@BlaizedAsh 5 лет назад
I kinda like how red doesn’t talk or smile It makes it feel like this is a true fight
@zenzero4899
@zenzero4899 6 лет назад
but if Giovanni (a bad guy) is calling red arrogant, I think it would be different than Profesor Oak (a good guy) calling his grandson arrogant
@johnfulcher8448
@johnfulcher8448 6 лет назад
collin boyer Giovanni being a bad guy is subjective, I think we are influenced by a sense of morality fed to us by one point of view with not enough information. The Manga really shows Giovanni off as a wise and powerful leader with an open mind and solid ideals
@zenzero4899
@zenzero4899 6 лет назад
right but what I was saying was that Giovanni and red are on opposite sides while Blue is Oak's grandson. I'm just saying it might be a little different
@zenzero4899
@zenzero4899 6 лет назад
but if oak is a kind soul, wouldn't that make him have a HIGHER tolerance for arrogance?
@zenzero4899
@zenzero4899 6 лет назад
so if oak has a higher tolerance, and Giovanni himself being more arrogant, wouldn't that mean that someone would have to be more arrogant for oak to point it out than Giovanni? Calling someone else arrogant is part of who you are if you are arrogant.
@Benjii917
@Benjii917 6 лет назад
Giovanni was a good guy
@Userdoesnotexist.0138
@Userdoesnotexist.0138 4 года назад
Red walking in like: Im about to end this mans whole career
@adnanbey4871
@adnanbey4871 5 лет назад
After losing half my team to Red in a Nuzlocke, yeah- Red's definitely evil. He will never be forgiven.
@wickdolf5692
@wickdolf5692 5 лет назад
Nuzlocke on original gold/silver or soul/heart?
@adnanbey4871
@adnanbey4871 5 лет назад
@@wickdolf5692 Heart Gold
@zoro59611
@zoro59611 5 лет назад
Post that s***
@PremachandranEK
@PremachandranEK 4 года назад
🤣🤣🤣
@fairymairah
@fairymairah 4 года назад
@DAVIN TAYLOR he's a Better Trainer !
@izaya8146
@izaya8146 6 лет назад
Also, you're comparing Pokémon from the game and origins. They're not the same thing.
@__Woomy
@__Woomy 5 лет назад
Ikr I'm lmfaoooooo rn
@greatnessawaits6790
@greatnessawaits6790 6 лет назад
Blue is better then Gary
@myristicina.
@myristicina. 5 лет назад
Jaden Yuki facts
@MonsterGamz-iw6tz
@MonsterGamz-iw6tz 5 лет назад
yOu DoNt LiKe SnAiLs
@Pricklyshrub
@Pricklyshrub 4 года назад
True
@aprilulululul
@aprilulululul 4 года назад
I like gary when he went to sinnoh xD
@fairymairah
@fairymairah 4 года назад
Is Blue a Nicer Trainer compared to Gary ! ?
@fabiancantu1915
@fabiancantu1915 6 лет назад
I think the reason blue was shown in generations was because we had already seen a Red focus in pokemon origins.
@jimmy3922
@jimmy3922 6 лет назад
Spoilers: Red went to mt Silver to heal his hands #manga
@theartoonnerdologist411
@theartoonnerdologist411 6 лет назад
Jimmy then stayed and forgot about his mom and friends
@RicktheInnovator
@RicktheInnovator 6 лет назад
Finally someone understands!
@jimmy3922
@jimmy3922 6 лет назад
I know broski, that's true! Personally i like the mangas interpertation of Red goin to mount silver to heal his hands more then the origin explanation. But that is just oppionins. You say potatoe, I say tomatoe
@nebuladog
@nebuladog 6 лет назад
The red in the manta is an entirely different person. AND I SHIP RED AND YELLOW HAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAJAJAJ
@johnfulcher8448
@johnfulcher8448 6 лет назад
Nebula Dog the Manga definitely kills the anime and games combined in storytelling and captivation I've read pokemon special atleast a dozen times, I have to go back through everytime new gens are translated
@myristicina.
@myristicina. 5 лет назад
5:35 Blue isn’t his friend at that time...
@aeinzalot
@aeinzalot 6 лет назад
Have you even noticed that generations is literally based in the games and so the person you play as would be silent like red, gold, etc. Also we don’t really see his mouth in shot so you can’t say he’s not smiling but you can’t say the opposite. As the player in this situation the only thing that player would want to do IS win. The anime version of red that you showed is just that. A version of red.
@rubikabunkuru3291
@rubikabunkuru3291 5 лет назад
Good and evil aren't split into two clear separate sides. Red's actions depict him as a usual trainer, having their Pokemon get hurt in a battle is nothing new. His anger on the other hand is at others who cause problems or aren't proactively helping if they can. Red *assaulting* Blue was because Blue could of helped, but he wasn't planning to simply because someone else would later. Misusing his abilities and invaluable strength to continue his journey rather than help the Pokemon Team Rocket were attacking. Doesn't sound very humane does it? His support could of made things a lot easier, but he chose the greedy, self indulging path unlike Red.
@bestrusthacks6943
@bestrusthacks6943 5 лет назад
Ya know, you had me there for a second, but the rest of your “evidence” is super bad...
@freakingreninja7790
@freakingreninja7790 4 года назад
Exactly,
@itssaturday1443
@itssaturday1443 6 лет назад
I THINK YOUR REACHING A LITTLE BIT TO FAR
@Verlisify
@Verlisify 6 лет назад
Nah, subtle animation cues and storytelling usually have a snowball of deeper meaning
@Ai_Andrew_
@Ai_Andrew_ 6 лет назад
Heroes of the Summit, and B2/W2 in the Pokemon World Tournament.
@__Woomy
@__Woomy 5 лет назад
@Heroes of the Summit ikr he needs to play R/B/G/Y G/S/C (and HG/SS I guess) too actually see the reason red is at mt.silver
@__Woomy
@__Woomy 5 лет назад
@LightStone1603 dude you just called him out🤣🤣🤣🤣 nicccccce😎
@otex5155
@otex5155 5 лет назад
Verlisify no you kind of are. But it’s your own interpretation. We all have different interpretations, yours isn’t always right you know. Give room for others to have a civil conversation.
@Snqwy
@Snqwy 6 лет назад
You can't call him a villian... *If he has a speech impedament :v*
@DEBlRU-MAN
@DEBlRU-MAN 6 лет назад
Nami? ':v
@__Woomy
@__Woomy 5 лет назад
Dumbass he just chooses not to talk
@theyluvkg7078
@theyluvkg7078 5 лет назад
@@__Woomy So?
@Genobutitsover
@Genobutitsover 5 лет назад
I finally did it I became the champion of the Pokémon league Red: i’m about to end this man’s Entire career
@espada2525
@espada2525 6 лет назад
The games should really give the protagonists more personality.
@Blazerage
@Blazerage 6 лет назад
Carlos Rodriguez ikr
@LucarioShirona
@LucarioShirona 6 лет назад
No kidding, even the trainers of SM suffers this condition
@Hawkkiller2
@Hawkkiller2 6 лет назад
To be fair, With the exceptions of Red, Leaf, Ethan/Gold, Crystal's equivalents, White, Whis, Black, Blake, and kind of Sun and Moon, we actually know the other protag's personalities somewhat through Ash's journey and the Rival protag's personality, since many parallels can be drawn to those characters. Especially since most of them are the same character. Why not Ethan/Gold and co. as well? Pfft, Idunno. Ex: May would have her personality from the show, with a bit more affinity for battles, and Brendon would have his Rival personality. Ex2: Lucas would probably be the partner personality, with Dawn having a similar personality to her anime version. Final example: Calem would take the rival personality with Serena being more of a battle trainer than her Anime version. Of course, these are only assuming the origins of the Anime counterparts are the correct ones.
@foreverwewin
@foreverwewin 6 лет назад
if you want personality read the pokespe manga, every protagonist from every pokemon game is there and they have interesting arcs and personalities
@user-ty6we2sp2m
@user-ty6we2sp2m 6 лет назад
Carlos Rodriguez sun and moon does that alot more than the other ones
@Elseba921
@Elseba921 6 лет назад
In the end, there are just the writers perspective about of Red Manga Red is friendly, anime Red is reckless, and game Red is just as the player wants it to be
@SoulCrusherEx
@SoulCrusherEx 6 лет назад
Live long enough to become the Villain....
@stacyhigginsya1820
@stacyhigginsya1820 6 лет назад
SoulCrusherEx Batman?
@bradymcblox2959
@bradymcblox2959 4 года назад
I think the reason Red doesn’t talk because his bond with his pokemon is SO strong that they can communicate telepathically so why should he talk when he doesn’t have to.
@thoatran6638
@thoatran6638 6 лет назад
Verlis, to be fair, Giovanni had high ass leveled pokemon compared to Red. You should know Giovanni one shot most of his pokemon. Red just didn't have high enough leveled pokemon.
@abenxu8731
@abenxu8731 6 лет назад
Thai Nguyen Great point.
@sansanfajrian3847
@sansanfajrian3847 5 лет назад
yeah so true.. he's charizard is his strongest and i think that charizard is level 50 or more but the other just level 30..
@fairymairah
@fairymairah 4 года назад
@@sansanfajrian3847 he should help his Pok'e'mon to Level up some more !
@マコトオオ
@マコトオオ 6 лет назад
5:34 dude that is an anime cliche
@lockdownhamza
@lockdownhamza 2 года назад
Still though, I think they made it so that Red himself still portrays us, the main character, because he has a more competitive view on battling and has no dialogue, he’s the first playable antagonist anyways, us as the player just force the Pokemon to learn HMs/TMs so we can use them to travel across the region, that’s exactly what Red is doing, I mean what else should he do scout out for danger himself then DIE because he isn’t a Pokemon? Sheesh. And the PKMN Origins Red is already fake enough, he’s super cartoony and talkative in that timeline.
@TutorialAngel
@TutorialAngel 6 лет назад
Red isn't saying anything because he's a ditto and saying anything will reveal his true identity.
@dafable1555
@dafable1555 6 лет назад
but ditto smiles while red is just grumpy
@ralynedin
@ralynedin 6 лет назад
Red could just be a focused person when battling. I know when my dad trains he looks like he is out for blood, but that is how he looks when he is in the zone.
@kimothy7532
@kimothy7532 6 лет назад
We as players don’t really have the “feelings” of Pokemon when we are playing the game because everything is programmed for us. But for the protagonist it might be prostrated differently. When we started Pokemon, our first Pokemon is always the strongest the one we always use, this links to the fact Red was able to defeat a 5v1 only using his starting Pokemon. As the game goes on we players starts to keep on wanting legendaries and more power and once we finish the game we stop playing it this link to the fact Red portrays us the players. When we finish the game we don’t do anything and don’t talk to anyone in the game this shows that Red is alone with nobody. Red can’t do anything if the player isn’t controlling him so technically Red can’t speak because we never see any dialogs on him but then again he can speak to people in the game which means if we don’t control Red he can’t speak. we don’t have feelings of Pokemon because we think they programmed and for Red this is the case. We battle trainers until our Pokemon are weak and fainted this is also portrayed in Red. Technically Red is this hollow husk whom represents the players. Red is us.
@urmum-iv7bk
@urmum-iv7bk 6 лет назад
Pokemon is deep I just wanted to play a freaking game This is More than i bargained for
@junienejiuneabellanosa1933
@junienejiuneabellanosa1933 6 лет назад
IDC
@Fronni_
@Fronni_ 5 лет назад
wow, this is deep
@IshiGray
@IshiGray 6 лет назад
hmm, there is an antagonist but I cant really say Red is a bad guy or a good person. To me Red seems to be an inexperience thinker and can be aloof.
@AlisonClaires
@AlisonClaires 6 лет назад
Recently I read a fanfic with Red that portrayed him as being deaf. Some people who are deaf and don't have hearing aids speak gargled sounding language, because they can't hear or know what they sound like, or anyone else for that matter. And I liked that representation and concept. He knew he couldn't speak well aside from sign language so he wouldn't speak, to avoid ridicule. The game version of Red, that is. Also Bryce Papenbrook as Red in Origins ftw
@nebuladog
@nebuladog 6 лет назад
Whoa I never thought of that!!! Dang...
@anonimata760
@anonimata760 5 лет назад
Could be just ASD since the Pokemon creator have it too
@darthgames3
@darthgames3 5 лет назад
He became quiet,more serious and less caring for his pokemon (besides Charizard) So...how does that make him evil exactly?He never killed anyone,never directly hurt anyone or show EXTREME signs of hate
@fairymairah
@fairymairah 4 года назад
Does this mean Ash is a Much Better Trainer ! ?
@howtodoit8628
@howtodoit8628 3 года назад
@@fairymairah Yup, Of course. Many People are already Pointing this out. They think Red is better just because he won a League. I watched Origins and Generations but I found Red as a Boring Overrated kid. At least Manga Red is much better than all of the Reds but still...
@fairymairah
@fairymairah 3 года назад
@@howtodoit8628 I see .
@dripherobrinelvl8335
@dripherobrinelvl8335 Год назад
Red Evil & Ash Evil 🤔😅
@walkingstash7486
@walkingstash7486 5 лет назад
I always had a theory that Red was like taking what Pokémon is, a fun adventure where your trying to be "The very best, like no one ever was!" and going far to exteme with it. When Red scales Mt. Silver overlooking the Johto region he sees a whole new challenge and world to explore, he's caught them all in Kanto and beat every trainer, he's made his ultimate team. Yet he doesn't stop, he wants to keep going unlike the charaters of other Pokémon games they never wanted more, they beat the League, became the champion and that was it. They didn't want anything else, and past Gen 2 it's impossible to "Catch them all!" without some sort of exploit. Gold stopped Red from trying to be the best, because Red already was...
@leonwolf7010
@leonwolf7010 6 лет назад
4:40 ok for my personal opinion, red is only trying to save the Pokémon that team rocket stole from other trainers and blue just care about his own goals and wants to be a hero. Sure blue sounded so mean to red but that’s to make him stronger as rivals. There has to be both good and evil in rivalry so red is slowly becoming a bad person than blue becomes more friendly towards everyone
@dripherobrinelvl8335
@dripherobrinelvl8335 Год назад
Okay
@scottspeer7516
@scottspeer7516 4 года назад
Red wasent dark or evil he was quite opposite really. He was passionate and a man of action. And their were mutiple times Red was the "hero". Thats why he trained so hard why he faced team rocket alone. Red loved his starter he connected with it he choose charmander to honor his father and he identified with his grit determination and unyielding flames of surrender. Thats why whever he was in a very tight situation he called upon his starter he had complete faith in him. Hes strong silent type.
@julianolivarez4986
@julianolivarez4986 6 лет назад
Red is mad cuz all he got was a congratulations from oak after catching all 151 Pokemon
@ThatWolficorn
@ThatWolficorn 5 лет назад
If you pause it at exactly 3:36 That face is the face I make when I hear my alarm clock
@whyamihere8313
@whyamihere8313 5 лет назад
A spinning blue ball? What
@dripherobrinelvl8335
@dripherobrinelvl8335 Год назад
Ash and Red 😌
@meneermoustafa9346
@meneermoustafa9346 6 лет назад
5:59 the saving the pokemon tower was a idea from red, blue wanted the honor
@ggallqas7442
@ggallqas7442 6 лет назад
The reason Red gets so serious in Origins at those scenes is probably because he’s felt a lot of compassion for Pokèmon. Or he’s grown up and exited to go on and complete his journey and finally beat Blue
@dragasalt7493
@dragasalt7493 5 лет назад
We all know the real protagonist. *Joey and his Rattata.*
@TheBestWanderbug
@TheBestWanderbug 6 лет назад
I’m pretty sure red was emotionless because he saw something that made him snap, maybe that’s because why he was at the mountain. Red is not a bad guy, he has too much of a drive to win in the end, after red takes down team rocket, the talk with Giovanni probably scarred him. It’s the reason he’s not talking, he knows that he needs to care about his Pokémon, he’s trying to come back, black and white you fight red, he’s travelling more and seeing new things. That’s what he’s doing
@minecraftcatmanplusg
@minecraftcatmanplusg 6 лет назад
What if we are reds soul, and when we aren't him he's heartless
@fairymairah
@fairymairah 4 года назад
And yet they say Team Rocket is Heartless !
@downbeatdread
@downbeatdread 6 лет назад
I feel like if RED was evil, the battle would feel a lot different and the battle feel like your trying to save something. You said that he doesnt care about his pokemon, yet, RED has a ESPEON, which can only evolve with high friendship.
@remnantryku7112
@remnantryku7112 6 лет назад
I’m fine with Red being the strong, silent type. No quarrels here.
@jaciewhite7120
@jaciewhite7120 6 лет назад
Also-Red’s the only protag to frown in any of his official art. Yeah, he smiles in his first one, but in his FRLG art he just looks really angry. Really makes you wonder though, if Leaf is supposed to be just a genderbent Red, why does she look happy in her official art and not Red... calling it now, something happened to Red after going atop Mt. Silver that changed him. However, someone (presumably Blue) didn’t let Leaf go to Mt. Silver, saving her from whatever fate Red met.
@edwardleal1171
@edwardleal1171 5 лет назад
Well maybe a grown man doesn’t want to fight a 10 year old? Also maybe he wants to complete every dex for each region so he needs the legendary Pokémon to do that
@gabiruman
@gabiruman 6 лет назад
Ah Pokemon theorists overthinking stuff.... Remember this: Pokemon is still aimed at youngsters there are no secret plots going on in the story, there are plot holes because there are supposed to be, there isn't meant to be an explanation to all changes you spot in animes / games. In this case they're clearly giving us an easter egg about how the character Red was when we played as him in the very first games, even though memes didn't kind of exist at the time, it was kind of a meme between players that our character was always silent and never said a word, we always wanted to "hear" him speak, but we never did, and never will, so his appearance in Sun and Moon backed up by Blue's dialogue is just a little nod to that fact. The version portrayed in Pokemon Origins tried to answer that call, but it cannot be associated to main games in any way, and your interpretation of his character development is nothing more than your wishful thinking that there has to be more to it.... There isn't, it is what it is.
@hiroikkuneko
@hiroikkuneko 6 лет назад
Red is an allegory for the toxic community.
@schaefer76
@schaefer76 6 лет назад
AmphyTheGreat True
@dylanreed2951
@dylanreed2951 6 лет назад
Pokémon? Toxic community? Psycho Mantis? Are you okay?
@marinadelacruz5303
@marinadelacruz5303 6 лет назад
Oh really?! So red was angry at blue couse the pokemon are getting abused. So how did red beacome bad huh... expain it in part 2. If u make one.
@anthonyswann7792
@anthonyswann7792 6 лет назад
OK...to continue my rant....about the Giovanni part....u said that he become good...can you explain the every other instances of him not being a good guy especially in ultra sun and ultra moon?can you explain the gold/silver/crystal episodes of Pokemon generations?you see your looking at certain things in the Pokemon universe not the whole thing.
@anthonyswann7792
@anthonyswann7792 6 лет назад
then again there are multiple universes in pkmn so on some way u could be right about a different red
@skeletastic309
@skeletastic309 6 лет назад
The USUM episode RR villains are specifically versions of themselves from universes where they won.
@whateverifeellike9214
@whateverifeellike9214 6 лет назад
I loved this episode. Blue seems like he’s gotten more mature since the beginning of the game and I don’t think he was legitimately welcoming. He was just being cocky but less that normal and red is just conveyed to be so badass
@no-le1uh
@no-le1uh 6 лет назад
Red forgot to use Pidgey while fighting Brock.
@BigInjun05
@BigInjun05 5 лет назад
Would you smile if your rival beat you to the end?
@kiryuu-yanagi
@kiryuu-yanagi 5 лет назад
Red entering the doorway like a psychopath he's gonna murder blue lmao
@destina6640
@destina6640 6 лет назад
I think red just had a different reaction to his experiences than red. I think because red cared too much that it scarred him which led him to become the person he is now. I don't think he has become the bad guy I just think he's realized the bad in the world which made him lose his optimism
@durk5331
@durk5331 6 лет назад
And this is why throughout Pokemon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, & Ultra Moon, I would do my best to make sure all of my pokemon stayed unfainted, even if I had to revive them, all of my pokemon would be safe by the end of battle.... every battle....
@HallowIsSmol
@HallowIsSmol 5 лет назад
For whatever reason, Red has always come off to me as if he some sort of social anxiety. He doesn’t speak unless a dialogue choice is chosen by the the player themself, and he doesn’t speak at all when he isn’t being controlled by the player. He is only ever confirmed to speak when he encounters the copycat girl (if I remember correctly) so he doesn’t seem to talk at all otherwise, as “yes” and “no” can be illustrated by nodding or shaking your head. It never felt to me that the Red in the games was ever a villain, and he instead has some sort of anxiety.
@TheGoldenConnorific
@TheGoldenConnorific 5 лет назад
Red comes in like I'm bout to end this whole man's career
@brandonzarakpege5069
@brandonzarakpege5069 5 лет назад
Red probably just went insane because he caught all the Pokemon in his region only to find out there were many other regions out there with a hundred more Pokemon each.
@anishsingh2848
@anishsingh2848 6 лет назад
generations is always dark
@fairymairah
@fairymairah 4 года назад
But the Manga is Still Worse ! ?
@primeaffray7245
@primeaffray7245 6 лет назад
Red shows up silently all business and doesn't seem to give a shit as he pummels you and pockets ur cash, quickly moving to conquer the next person. Replaying the game it was a bit more noticeable how the NPC's reactions can be taken in this way. The NPC's see him as a jerk.
@TheBohobemeister
@TheBohobemeister 6 лет назад
Woah. That's deep. Wonderful theory! As always, wonderful video Verlis!
@anjesku6002
@anjesku6002 6 лет назад
i would think that red became like he is due to him learning of more pokemon in the pokedex, and how professor oak never told him this.
@dripherobrinelvl8335
@dripherobrinelvl8335 Год назад
Pokémon Pokedex Pikachu????😔
@zeeshanrahman4288
@zeeshanrahman4288 6 лет назад
maybe Red is disabled and can't talk cut him some slack
@myristicina.
@myristicina. 5 лет назад
Zeeshan Rahman no he isn’t lmao
@Ahmed_0303
@Ahmed_0303 5 лет назад
@@H4Z4RDW4RN1NG the manga proves it.
@failure2946
@failure2946 4 года назад
@@Ahmed_0303 The manga The games and the anime are sepparete universes (sorry for bad english)
@ELMolliez
@ELMolliez 6 лет назад
Plot twist - Red is mute
@gaber659
@gaber659 6 лет назад
Huh? I'm kind confused here are we talking about generations(series thing) origin s or the red from the game cause generations origins and the games aren't connected so...yeah but interesting theory
@roronoazoro4369
@roronoazoro4369 6 лет назад
Blue said I am finally the champion... Red said I THINK NOT!
@Lupinemancer87
@Lupinemancer87 6 лет назад
The whole "Red being silent" thing is kinda strange. None of the other Protagonists speak either, but some do have some speech choices, suggesting they can talk. The only difference is that we don't really see any of the protagonists aside from Red outside their introduction games. Yet only Red gets the whole "being silent" treatment.
@Azuala
@Azuala 6 лет назад
red does this ..... in all the games it is normol
@burnum
@burnum 6 лет назад
If there was a change in Red, then it's only in Origins. Not even in the manga did Red change his attitude in the Kanto region. Origins was made simply for promotional purposes since it had Mega forms in it.
@kevinkrasnov5547
@kevinkrasnov5547 6 лет назад
...What the hell, this whole video was made because you thought him being silent was strange? :D you don't think you're over reacting a little? oh lord...
@akn3103
@akn3103 6 лет назад
Kevin Krasnov he interprets a little bit too much.
@howtodoit8628
@howtodoit8628 3 года назад
I do agree with you. But the only thing debatable to be a bad guy is Origins Red
@funnyfarts172
@funnyfarts172 5 лет назад
5:30 Red just grabs his shirt thats it
@badluckgamma
@badluckgamma 6 лет назад
Woah that’s an intense theory Verlis! You should do more of these!
@darthdino33
@darthdino33 6 лет назад
No he shouldn't. He's not good at em. Blue was never a jerk. Gary was, but they're not the same people.
@badluckgamma
@badluckgamma 6 лет назад
dino stills Okay fine, but can you come up with a better theory? One that hasn’t already been thought of?
@amurderofdrunkcrows2587
@amurderofdrunkcrows2587 6 лет назад
i could he has feelings and he did not say anything about the feelings emotion he said it in plain filth
@grumpypikachu8315
@grumpypikachu8315 5 лет назад
said no real pokemon fan who knows there facts ever please tell me this is sarcasm
@howtodoit8628
@howtodoit8628 3 года назад
@@darthdino33 They are the same Bruh. Blue is actually Gary until the People keep calling him Blue/Green
@jollimaiahtacksworth
@jollimaiahtacksworth 5 лет назад
I thought that red was silent because he had spent 3 years on Mt. Silver with no human contact and forgot all English besides calling out the moves his Pokémon knew
@mannaestrada3512
@mannaestrada3512 6 лет назад
Red you've been my fav but when I hered this I was like 😧😮
@batgoku9
@batgoku9 6 лет назад
there's a theory that said that when red wanted to complete the Pokédex he went to Mt silver and when he went there he found out there was over 151 Pokemon and became depressed because of it and just stayed there and waited til he found a trainer to fight and he died along the process and he's a ghost in Mt silver
@JamesCarter-zv8qs
@JamesCarter-zv8qs 6 лет назад
Red died inside along the way.
@maxerz9140
@maxerz9140 6 лет назад
Honestly I think Red is just anti-social and doesnt say anything and just focuses on winning because all he knows is pokemon battling. Then his experiences made him even more reclusive because he became obsessed with being the best and cannot stop trying to get better. He doesn't care for the pokemons well-being he only wants to win. He is silent because he is always judging someone as an opponent and never as a friend. Right before you battle Blue you can see Red in a thinking pose like he is sizing you up in Pokemon Sun/Moon. He is a cold calculating person that thinks before he acts and is focused on winning and nothing else.
@wj11jam78
@wj11jam78 6 лет назад
But... does origins really take place in the same universe as sun and moon? As far as I understand it, the games take place in 2 universes: the Mega evolution universe and the No mega evolution universe. Do pokemon ever mega evolve in origins?
@EeLyos
@EeLyos 5 лет назад
Or its just that red (the player) doesnt speak..
@rayaya6580
@rayaya6580 6 лет назад
0:17 "hurry up and come" 6 ) 6
@nebuladog
@nebuladog 6 лет назад
Aaaa no red x yellow
@captainjacksparrow1521
@captainjacksparrow1521 6 лет назад
I kind of like to view Red and Blue as foil characters. Blue is sillier and laid back and welcoming while Red is quiet, introverted, serious, etc.
@deadacc6338
@deadacc6338 5 лет назад
Reds LOVE hit 20
@rcho223
@rcho223 5 лет назад
I mean of course red is serious. He’s not joking around and just wants to win. He doesn’t care abt friends, socializing, all red needs is to win.
@pokemontrainergold7650
@pokemontrainergold7650 6 лет назад
Also If Red is a bad guy... Is Gold a good guy? I mean They both did the same kind of things And they battled on Mt. Silver Sooo What, Verlisify?
@Verlisify
@Verlisify 6 лет назад
Gold actually smiles in generations. His legacy isn't portrayed as coldly
@pokemontrainergold7650
@pokemontrainergold7650 6 лет назад
OMG you replied! Honestly, I respect your opinion. Maybe since you did a video about Red, do a video on Gold?
@pokemontrainergold7650
@pokemontrainergold7650 6 лет назад
Also, I am 12. I am sorry to ask this, but, what do you mean by "His legacy isn't portrayed as coldly"? Does that mean he is not as, well, agressive as Red, I guess?
@devbee7396
@devbee7396 6 лет назад
Pokemon Trainer Gold kinda because red was kinda cold hearted when walking to battle blue
@marcel9836
@marcel9836 6 лет назад
Devbee If I were walking up to destroy one of my friend's dreams do you expect me to be smiling the whole time?
@kono5933
@kono5933 6 лет назад
Maybe Red got pushed over the edge when he found out there are more than 151 Pokémon. He was tricked throughout his entire adventure. He was told treated like a master who caught em all, and then he discovered there were way more. He might've never turned BAD, just cold. And he may have lost his passion or a fraction of his soul.
@nyetnyetsu
@nyetnyetsu 5 лет назад
Red is my new husbando. UwU
@DragonLordJesus
@DragonLordJesus 6 лет назад
The problem here is that they gave Red a personalty, where we the player project on to him, so whatever they do to Red will never amount to our perception of our Red. Better for him to be as silent as possible
@lonesailordee3886
@lonesailordee3886 6 лет назад
Hmmm. Seems quite interesting. I’m gonna remain neutral.
@zoeann9694
@zoeann9694 6 лет назад
MylesTheLucario good decision
@kurokaji6232
@kurokaji6232 6 лет назад
Me too. Either way he's still interesting imo
@shyguy85
@shyguy85 5 лет назад
MylesTheLucario neutral just like red
@123Mathzak
@123Mathzak 5 лет назад
It’s because of all the taunting, all the condescending throughout their journeys, Red didn’t forget that even though theyre on the biggest stage, It’s time to give Blue a taste of reality
@jacobwenner4054
@jacobwenner4054 6 лет назад
A genwunner would say Hilbert is evil (the male Unova trainer you play as) because it is required for all genwunners to hate gen 5. Even though it's the best in the series by a longshot.
@shinon5109
@shinon5109 6 лет назад
Jacob Wenner but isn't gen 4 the worst? :^) also gen 5 just suffers from horrible pokemon desings, that's from where most of the hate comes.
@kronos8097
@kronos8097 6 лет назад
Gen 4 is amazing
@nebuladog
@nebuladog 6 лет назад
Hate alola
@bardock126
@bardock126 6 лет назад
Gen 5 was pretty good, although I didn't like most of the Pokemon designs. In my opinion, Sinnoh was by far the worst. The starters are horrible, and just.. *why is chimchar a thing*...
@Pinkcrystals91
@Pinkcrystals91 5 лет назад
The championship got to Red's head and he became boujee. lol
@KiziXKhaoS
@KiziXKhaoS 6 лет назад
I love that I found versify through videos hating on him. My first impression with him was that I hated who he was because of what other people were saying about him. After watching his channel though, I know people are just blowing a bunch of smoke.
@RocketTwurpSLR
@RocketTwurpSLR 6 лет назад
Gabe Khaos definitely
@scottrohrbeck7672
@scottrohrbeck7672 6 лет назад
I found him while I was looking up stuff on Sun and Moon, around when the games were new, and wanted to learn more about what there was to do in the game. At the very time I didn't know he was so hated on because of what he was calling out, but alas. I noticed unusually high amounts of dislikes, though.
@lusarima
@lusarima 6 лет назад
Scott Rohrbeck there are reasons people hate him.
@lusarima
@lusarima 6 лет назад
Gabe Khaos there are reasons people hate him. it’s not for nothing.
@blastketchup4953
@blastketchup4953 6 лет назад
What’s the reason?
@JessycaLunawoona
@JessycaLunawoona 5 лет назад
Here's who Red is, an introverted and realist person. Blue is an extroverted and optimistic person. Just because Red doesn't smile or talk much doesn't mean he's evil. Heck I personally don't smile or talk much IRL, doesn't mean I'm evil. P.S: Generations, Origins, and the games are different Canon universes. The Red in each of these series is technically a different character.
@dripherobrinelvl8335
@dripherobrinelvl8335 Год назад
Ash Evil 😳
@Oppargangnamestyle
@Oppargangnamestyle 6 лет назад
I think Poke logic disabled his voice XD
@meneermoustafa9346
@meneermoustafa9346 6 лет назад
5:10: team rocket took over the lab where they are making the master ball, red wanted to help, blue didnt
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