Pokemon Unite with a side of salt 

Yup, it's a Tencent game, which idk if it's better or worse... I'm inclined to say worse knowing its record of crimes against gaming, altough those crimes varies between partners.

In addition to the fact that Uniteis run by Tencent, dont make the mistake of thinking pokemon= nintendo. Nintendo explicitly has no creative control of pokemon, which is why travesties like sword and shiled are allowed to happen.

@@denjamin2633 I agree with most of your sentiment. People do make the mistake of conflating pokemon as a first party nintendo franchise when it is it's own thing. It is important to not however that Nintendo owns the majority of shares in game freak and also hosts game freak in nintendo owned offices. Saying that nintendo has no control over pokemon is just wrong because if they didn't like it then they could influence gamefreak. The pokemon franchise as a whole is larger than just gamefreak of course. So nintendo's say isn't as big as the last paragraph implies.

I don't think that's a good thing, not that Nintendo fans are toxic, some are sure, I don't think the Zelda or Mario fans are much. Pokemon on the other hand is so diverse and toxic listening to fans might not be a good thing, it's one of if not the most toxic fanbase right up there with Sonic and Fire Emblem fans.

@@ovrsurge4689 Not that Nintendo would be against an infinitely milkable pokemon game

Why do people think Venusaur is bad, i always mvp when i play as venusaur, he can do much damage and defeat almost all pokemon.

Before the patch, venesaur wasn't that viable, even in non ranked but now, you can easily meme in randoms and have fun with it. I still wouldn't consider venesaur in ranked though, venesaur isn't bad, there's just so many better options

He is just trying to use Venusaur only himself

@@Beeedolbh Because he’s bad lol. He’s playable sure, but he just does not hold up to the rest of the cast

@@illusionaryheart3325 as someone who plays venusaur every now and then I can safely say this is incorrect, with X attack and razor leaf with a combination of the weird glasses ( I think what that item is called) bulbasaur at the start of the game can deal so much damage and once you evolve enough to get mega drain and solar beam that very same combo of items can lead to basically almost killing entire teams if lined up and giga drain is actually a big help to keep him in the field without having to retreat all that much

Great job! Were you fighting bots? :D

I got MVP a couple times as the fat flower frog. Whats the big deal with it tho? Is it hated?

@@FoFo_1300 it was on the weaker side, but got buffed a few patches ago

@@Kilesfactor it was my very first ranked match but i got MVP again some matches later

Of course I’ve seen a Venusaur do work! His name was Me.

Love to see my boy winning

Those were the days... until petal dance got nerfed, but still usable none the less

Venusaur now: **still big tier**

step 4: win literally every match despite not knowing shit.

@@zetafish7347 step 4: use venusaur to last hit zapdos?

Step five: Spend 150 dollars

Step 6: get drednaw

@@THGMR-ox7sd only 99% of the time, you’re right

None of the "baby pokemon" are used in Unite. (smol versions that evolve through friendship)

I think it's because Riolu evolves by friendship

It's the same deal as Mr. Mime, Snorlax, and Pikachu. Riolu is considered a Baby Pokemon, and there aren't any Baby Pokemon playable, so that's why you don't start as Riolu.

I dont know why game freak acts like Raichu doesnt exist but here we are.

@@colesnead4061 it’s almost like Pikachu is the literal face of Pokémon. Of course Raichu isn’t going to get as much attention

Yeah, Communication in general is a fucking nightmare, and even less people listen to the Communication. Eldergoss can 1v2 almost every lane for at least a draw due to the insane healing, but if you have a Lucario or Zeraora against you, better clench your buttcheeks

its the opposite for me, we dont all need to be on the bottom path like jesus

The item system has problems, but I feel like the biggest advantage you can actually get is playing with friends on a discord call

Which is why I straight up don't choose paths, I follow whoever is going alone

It is even worse to get your first Pokemon Stolen by the jungler and then being left alone for the next 4 minutes

Me too 😂

Me three

Me four

Me five

Me six

Another step closer to becoming a furry

@@thethrongler3070 pog I guess?

That thing will haunt my nightmares

@@rubiconprime1429 "nightmares?"

@@doomclasher9287 forever starring that ravenous stare and breathing disturbingly heavily

Bruh, the video just got uploaded

* insert overused jojo joke here *

Salt and SlowpokeTail. Mhm

It's a moba, of course we need the whole fucking ocean.

I definitely wouldn't mind another salty vid

What information they gonna steal, your play time on Mario odyessy?

@@pointe3347probably Any personal info attached to your nintendo account you can link with and probably sell off the info as this is Tencent we are talking about.

@@MizuFujimori highly doubt this is the case since this is one of the few games that doesn’t require a Nintendo online subscription to play online

@@pointe3347 it has trackers on it… look up on Apple store they tell what info they’re taking from you and there’s no way to stop it… it’s pretty fucked up.

*nuggets

For maximum hate of yourself go for dota, for maximum hate of other monkeys go for lol, imho

@@nightly2005 league of legends is so fucking funny when my botlane goes 0/15 collectively then complains that they didn't get a single gank when jgl was down there over 5 times desperately trying to save their lane

@@justswift5369 Alternatively: your whole team shouting at you for having terrible damage because you’re underfarmed. Meanwhile, you’ve been camped by the jungler and midlander for the last eight minutes and your jungler only visited to steal minions.

@@DiggerPat a league classic!

"not scientifically possible!"

SOLAR BEEEEEEEEEAM

Well he’s like the best in the game now, so good on you for sticking with him

@@TNTmasta07 yeah uh, he’s been nerfed no more op venasaur.

@@Samuel-qi7in his giga drain was nerfed, but Solar Beam because a bazooka blast that can erase so...

@@truewhissan just started playing venasaur, he’s so fun with solar beam. (Not op but fun,)

It's golden, it wins you the game and there is no point in doing anything else

**Laughs in Grudgby**

if i could, i'd show you the screenshot where a team got zapdos against us twice, and still lose somehow. But that kinda scenario is like 1 in a million.

@@marlikbudvergard You missed the fact that both of them also fly.

@@thefunnyaerialman TRUE

This video made me want to main Venusaur, it's already the Attacker I use the most, but I main Wigglytuff.

Jokes on you I already main that

Do it in fact when you win mob as venusaur post the screenshot on Scott's twitter and discord to prove to him that venusaur is viable

Pick my favorite starter ... Ok

Noted

I thought that was true with the regular games as well. Viable Pokemon > Sleeper hit > Venasaur

@@PrincessSunbutt venasur still the best starter for kanto playtroughs

Venasaur broken now, what the fcuk did you do??

@@thebookless3381 i guess now it's kinda like brawl meta knight

venusaur becomes several times stronger than the strongest pokemon currently in the game, allowing any team with a venusaur on it to effortlessly stomp any team without one, and having any game that does have a venusaur in it turn into a fight between two venusaurs while the rest of the team dies in the crossfire

@@aldar8240 so… Gengar a few weeks ago?

@@iisnothere never played unite, I was just coming up with a general monkey's paw solution to the wish

In the balance patch Venusaur actually got some pretty big buffs that led to him being tested in high ranked play! Sludge Bomb/Solar Beam Venusaur can actually do something now, but he's still pretty bad. Especially given how stacked the attacker roster already is with Cinderace, Greninja and Ninetales.

Perhaps unpopular opinion but the win-rate of a 5 player team game is...pretty much the same as a lootbox, because, tbh, if at least one enemy is as good as you alone, you can't carry and you vs a whole team doesn't make any difference (execpt they really suck). So "winning" in these games seems to be based more on luck than on anything else, since "win-rate" doesnt count in your performance, but the average of the team (of which you are only 20%). I've won games where i literally didn't knew what i was doing (since i never played the pokemon before), vs losing games with a pokemon i played over 200 games with, knowing exactly what I'm doing with like being at least every 3rd game MVP. And this doesn't even count in Zapdos...

@@ledpowz the thing with MOBA Games is: to climb consistently you have to be the difference in your Team. Ofc. you will face Players that throw the Game or that carry you through it. But the more Games you Play the bigger is your Personal Impact, as everyone else also encounters both types of Players.

Since squirtle in main series is THE speedrun mon, I have a hope that it will be in this game, too.

@@gameyfirebro9645 blastoise will be released on the 1st of september

@@ledpowz Oh my god thank you. Someone who understands how pointless win-rate is. All it tells you is whether you won or lost, it does not factor in anything else and that's a huge problem with games that base their balance off of win-rate. Just because a specific champ wins more games than it loses doesn't mean that the champion itself is busted, it means that they people playing that champion know what they're doing and know how to use the kit to their advantage so they CAN win. Any game that bases balance off of win-rate needs to stop basing it off that and look at performance. The PERFORMANCE and the kit itself are what determine how busted or not a champion is, not how often that champion wins.

:l

Thanks for throwing games! *jk he's really not bad after his buff

And now Venasaur is top tier.

Imagine, couldn't be me

Is that a thing?

acting like he doesn't already and this is his doctors medical plan to deal with ot

@@Pillmonger ingesting too much of anything will poison you, so yes

​@@supreme_king_obama1158 Though this is actually a cause of death. As it can cause seizures and death in some cases. It's known as hypernatremia.

@@ozura239 well yeah, but as I stated, ingesting too much of anything can cause death too. but, yes, you're right too.

*teammate has 50 points and goes after Zapdos*

Don’t teamfight if you have 50 points, please…just try and score…

Scoring is impossible in this game. Killing someone puts them on a 1 second cooldown and they jump on you before you can run to their goal. Should just be a regular tower moba

@@benevolentdictator9100 Actually though. Sometimes killing an opponent actually hinders a teammate from scoring because they can jump back in on defense quicker.

@@maxspecs yeah it’s the worst.

Thank you for this, I want the Slowbro headband but really really really don't want to play him 5 times

True

Honestly Venausaur is particularly effective against the same type of people who choose to dodge a falling tree along its length rather than to the side. Which includes me apparently but it’s true anyway.

Venusaur got buffed

Right? Solarbeam is sick, and I like using drains to keep in the battle.

Fighting venusaur when he's backed up by a high damage ranged fighter, like pikachu or cinderace, can be extraordinarily painful

I used to think Venusaur was kinda bad. He still is but MAN IS HE FUN TO PLAY AS.

Makes for even more pain if you have a stun with him

I defend goal and save abilities for when they try to score. Crustle doesn't become actually life threatening till lvl 6 and is likely just trying to cheese points.

@@Thougar sometimes for the sheer tomfoolery as crustle i rush as a Dwebble at level 3 to the enemy jungle to fight their level 4 jungler. With a stunning attack and x-scissor i usually manage to take them down, and most times that I don't it's because my actions draws atleast one enemy from the lanes to back them up. Edit: Mostly do it in casual but it's usually worked in the few times I've tried it in ranked too. Currently stuck in Veteran hell getting teams that refuse to rotate to drednaw half the time.

@@defiantasusual4123 If the person knows how to jungle they should not even die like that. XD

🥲

POV: It is crab time

Which is correct if you don't want to work yourself day and night to get enough coins to actually buy another character.

@@ozura239 or Not spend years to get good held I team set

@@ozura239 Having to buy characters doesn't make it Pay to win at all when lot of the top tiers are free while outside of ranked you can use few Pokemon who you don't even own as well...

@@V-Jes I know, but then that would make the ranked mode pay to win if that's the case.

@@ozura239 Except not really because again, you already get lot of top tiers for free so you literally don't need to pay to get a good Pokemon to use...

He made this video when venusaur sucked ass, venusaur is fucking amazing now.

@@AboveW I’m well aware, I just don’t care. That Venasaur was terrible, even excluding the Pokémon Tiers. People who intentionally hold back the team are bad and should feel bad for doing so.

gonna be real thats the smartest thing ive ever heard

Bro this is legit one of the best strategies I've checked.

After reading the rest of this comment section, it's good to know that there are still big brain people on YT

Wait this is a good idea until someone takes your main

@@emeraldskies8254 you need to have multiple mains to climb the ladder. If no one picks a wall, I pick snorax. If no one picks support, I play support build ninetails. And so on.

SAME

Truer words have never been spoken

this is the kind of ranked teammate that needs to be punched irl.

There was one game where my whole team called going Central. I had picked Slowbro and said I was going to the Top, and there was another teammate going Bottom. But there were two who said that they would go jungle and then chaos ensued. We went our own path and eventually won that game for some reason.

All night, no escape from the greninjas.

It’s fine, just double jungle. If whoever is solo in lane isn’t bullied, they’ll gain exp twice as fast and become a hypercarry.

It CAN work... if you guys invade the enemy jungle. But I don't expect that kind of co-ordination from randoms.

Yup. Completely true. There were games where my entire team was sucking the entire time. I was Gengar. As soon as the Zapdos spawns, I run over and solo it, and all of a sudden we're winning the game because of it. It's crazy stupid.

True

It's for exp! Making the zapdos fight eazyer.

@@statik7206 You can dunk more balls than Michael Jordan but if you lose that Legendary battle, the game is over

@@randomrandyphantom9824 Isn't there held object that give boost for how many dunks you did?

this comment offends me more than it should

As a garchomp main, maybe instead of getting mad, get good B)

@@ylussjoel As a Garchomp main I A)approve this message and B)believe that all the effort I put into him would have rocketed me into the stratosphere with literally any other character.

I disagree a vensaur can wipe 60% of an opponent's hp with solar beam

...Have you ever even landed a Solar Beam? It's one of the most damaging skills in the game, especially if you catch somebody in Sludge Bomb beforehand.

I managed to destroy an entire team tacking Zapdos by using the unite move then finish them all one by one before finishing Zapdos, Venusaur is really solid since the patch

Venusaur is actually quite good, he just sucks ass at scoring because he's a super long range mage and is always the furthest back in a fight so it takes him the longest to get to the goal to score

The people who still complain about Venasaur after the buffs are the same people who miss every Solarbeam.

Exactly. It bothers me when people start to justify or deny that a game is p2w with "If you're a monkey you won't get benefits". Cause it's just bs. The items give you a benefit and that is final. Doesn't matter what the skill level is.

I personally have had very few issues with it. I've played the game quite a bit and I enjoy it a lot, but I win quite a bit more than I lose and I haven't spent a dime. Gonna be honest, i dont agree with the system in place and its defo pay to win for some advantage, but it just doesnt feel as noticeable as people try to make it

The stat increases past level 20 arnt negligible, but they also arnt valuable enough to warrant the grind or money. Item effects stop upgrading at level 20, and you're way better off getting multiple items to level 20 than getting one to level 30. It also doesn't really take that long to get multiple items to level 20. The stat increases at level 30 really arnt all they're cracked up to be.

@@Zippyd00da132 That's all well and good and all, but we've moved past the point of an exclusively PVP game allowing you to gain an advantage just by spending time/money on the game. It should be a test of skill, nothing more.

@@Johnnyb3g00d It is a test of skill.

@@Johnnyb3g00d with Monterey boosts

The most powerful card in any deck, even more powerful than Exodia.

The game evolves too fast

I have not realized how much people hated Venusaur until this video, I've gotten MVP before but I am now scared to play it-

Me constantly getting low health enemy snipes from off screen with Solar Beam: **sweats nervously**

Maybe hes just never seen a good Venesaur? Maybe i was just lucky but not only did i get mvp, but also all points and 90% of kills in a quick match.

I MVP'ed as Snorlax

Every single game a venusaur was on my team i lost and made sure to count everytime i see one

That bastard hurts, I hate laning against it

The stat increases past level 20 arnt negligible, but they also arnt valuable enough to warrant the grind or money. Item effects stop upgrading at level 20, and you're way better off getting multiple items to level 20 than getting one to level 30. It also doesn't really take that long to get multiple items to level 20. The stat increases at level 30 really arnt all they're cracked up to be.

@@Zippyd00da132 The stats actually add up, a +10 atk or sp atk here another from this item, +5 here, and at level 1 you have the dmg base of a level 3~4 and it snowballs from here. This is especially apparent in sp atk pokemon as that particular stat is far lower than atk for all pokemon, which makes having access to something like a +30 glass even more valuable.

@@seri-ously8591 the first 3-6(8 if a 2stage evolve mon) in-game lvls those item stats matter on really because of the way lvl up stat scale and how semi quick they get deminishing value with the exception of the %stat items

@@TheRicharizard Yes, we acknowledge there is some diminishing, but it’s only at specific level jump (level 5, 8, 10, 12, 14, 15] where the bonus is slightly less but still having a 3~9% extra dmg depending on the pokemon and level is still very significant when you’re dealing with same level or mirror match-ups where every stats and player decision makes a difference. That’s the main point. Garde at 15, hits 1k sp atk, 30 sp atk from capped item is still ~2.9% but let’s use level 13-14 as those are actually level most will fall in and that’s about 700~800 iirc from the top of head. It’s still a slight ~3% increase. Now let’s take it down a notch to mid game where levels are 9~12 Her stats are 400~500. It is still quite a noticeable boost (5~7%) at these levels. This does not even include the scaling from using wise glass nor Garde’s multipliers/scsling from her attacks which is heavily affected by your total sp atk. It may seem like a small increase but it’s big enough that it makes a difference. This is only using the pokemon with the highest sp atk value, there’s Cramorant who’s sp atk is lower which means there’s even less diminishing, thus make having level 30 items even more worth it.

@@seri-ously8591 But in that calculation you compare a lvl 30 Item with not even owning the Item. Level 20 just Takes 567 enhancers each and already gives you the highest available passive. To reach lvl 20 is not that hard if you use your Tickets

Mercy moment.

I think the ideal is a low skill floor, and a high skill ceiling. So low skill players can enjoy the game and not feel anything is broken, unless they're against someone who can fully utilize the characters, where the high skill players will be able to shine.

Venusaur became a portable and efficient railgun after that patch.

@@agilezero5457 Indeed

It would be terror to see another electric type in the game. It just depends which one, and which category they're in. We have Zeraora as a Speedster and Pikachu for Attacker, an All-Around and Defender would not be very helpful for the playerbase's Sodium Chloride levels.

@@supremeseregios6810 GALVANTULA as a defender with all the annoying kit stuff a bug electric can offer, sticky web roots on impact and leaves behind a slow zone maybe

Would that make galvantula a support because it’s not bulky in anyway shape or form

Zeraora becomes one of the worst Pokémon in higher ranks because he’s not very powerful when your opponents are actually competent. I think in his current state he’s fine.

dude items are not the reason people get stomped in ranked, its straight up the fact that even at veteran rank you can get beginner players on your team, its just like the videos says, you get a lot of dead weight compared to other mobas

@@dreamer1292 well maybe they should have it based on Rank, play time and levels. At least fix the match making somehow.

Nintendo is kinda terrible with matchmaking. In splatoon, why are the teams not balanced by level? I feel like I always am on the side that the game puts all of the low level players.

It's almost as if some of us have to

If you are average but spend that is enough to stomp those that did not swipe though.

Actually just smites Baron from red buff.

You need other qualities besides good objective stealing, Venusaur doesn't have any qualities that can't be replicated by other, better pokemon

@@victorhaydes9065 Aside from being the best long-range sniper in the game due to the extreme damage of Solar Beam? Greninja and Cinderace can't put out the same kind of damage from THAT distance. Even if it does make him complete fodder for Speedsters, even moreso than other attackers.

@@victorhaydes9065 But he can steal Zapdos which wins the game... isn't that the quality that matters?

@@Buglin_Burger7878 He isn't the only pokemon that can do that, and if your sole niche is stealing objectives slightly better than other pokemon, but is bad everywhere else, then it's going to be an overall bad character. I'll put an example, Pirahna Plant in smash bros is a god tier ledge trapper only rivaled by Dedede and the Belmonts, and having that quality is admittingly very good. But the thing is Plant is extremely lackluster in all other fields except recovery, which brings it down quite a lot, you can't just be good at one specific thing.

I hate it when I call jungle and then someone else calls it much later. Like, do I give up and switch off so I don’t complicate the game for my team? Or do I stick to it to show the guy a lesson, at the cost of my team struggling with two underleveled junglers? Normally I just have to switch

Oh my god exactly! Its so awkward for (I feel like) everyone else in the lobby watching it happen as well. Like. does the second jungle caller know there need be only one jungle-er orrr??? I think it just ends up falling to- are they just trolling or are they (pardon my terminology but-) noobs?

I think it's the combination of them being a character you get for free right off the bat and them being a squishy dps caster that dies immediately in a duel or teamfight because new people or children don't understand how the game works at all is what causes all the hate. IMO they really should've given new players an all-rounder that either doesn't evolve or evolves only once early on, that way they wouldn't die as fast or try to duel early game and die as an endgame Poke like Machamp or Garchomp

Because 1 example is proof to prove a trend wrong.

I get this, but for me it's always the Pikachu players.

I hate it when someone picks snorlax or gengar they are my mains

Same with me and Cinderace