Paper Mario: The Origami King with a grain of salt (Trailer thoughts) 

Nintendo like to make everything have durability nowadays: Links gear, Mario's weapons, -Joycons- , Villager tools, etc.

People: Man, the durability was unique and different Miyamoto: YES THE PERFECT IDEA, EVERYTHING WILL BREAK

Scott:"I don't believe that throwing hats on characters makes them Interesting" Mario Odyssey was a bit interesting

Paper Mario Fan : * cries because they can't get what they want * Mario & Luigi Fan : * cries because they can't have anything anymore * Mario and RPG just doesn't exist anymore

0:18 I love how shooting them turned them into Toads. Detail did not go unnoticed.

I'm surprised Scott didn't comment on the literal Inflation Dragon. It's at 3:20 if you're wondering.

Imagine how a tape boss would be in the first three games, though. They would at least give him cartoony arms, big shoes, and angry eyes. And he would call in reinforcements in the form of pencils, and the pencils would be color coded according to their stats - red would have higher attack power, blue would have higher defense, etc. God that would be a good fight.

Maybe they'll finally go back to its roots in Paper Mario: The Skyward Scissors sigh

Something I liked about classic PM was that we knew it was paper, the world was like a diorama made out of paper and cardboard, but the characters didn’t act like they were paper. And when I played it, I forgot it was a paper world half the time, it was just a world with characters, being paper was just a visual thing. Now it’s all, let’s fold ourselves, let’s use real world things that effect our paper world, etc.

I imagine this will either end up being a gallon of salt or a pinch of salt with no in between

I'm going to guess that in the end, Bowser betrays Mario, get the magic macguffin, and the final boss will be bowser with the magic macguffin

Bug Fables: Hey guys, how’s it go-

Everything breaks even your left joycon thumb stick

I'm not liking how when older Paper Mario fans never bring up SPM's fantastic character designs, only TTYD characters. So many new unique character styles and only 1 toad in the whole game!

Meanwhile, Fire Emblem has been doing durability for 30 years.

Coming back after playing through the game completely, I gotta say, this one is definitely a sure step in the right direction. While it is lacking in character diversity at points, *cough* audience *cough* it does make somewhat of an effort. The item durability didn't really get in the way most of the time and oddly enough despite having massive numbers, the coin economy was actually somewhat balanced, with me having to consider what accessories to buy and which to come back for later sometimes. My personal favorite area had to be Shogun Studios, mainly because of the diversity between toads and minions, and that damn good song it has after you've completed it. The game had a lot of charm, and despite the toads being almost all the same besides color, there are a good number that you can pick out based on how you rescued them (such as the guy on the fountain in Toad Town being the one you rescued in the sewers before he floated away on a plank of wood.) Overall I'd say Origami King shows that the Paper Mario games could finally crawling out of their dark age, and I welcome it with open arms.

Nintendo: dO YoU lIkE ToAdS ?!? Me: Yeah but- Nintendo: Here are 20.000 of them, all red

I recently went through The Thousand-Year Door for the first time in a decade. Absolutely worth it. Such a wonderful, quirky, and surprisingly dark game. I don't want *"just another"* TTYD; I want a game that is in the *"spirit"* of TTYD.

Personally, I don’t think one can pin all of the blame on Miyamoto. Tanabe, the producer, for instance, said he had wanted to get rid of experience points for a long time in an Iwata asks interview. I think he had a big part in forcing all of the changes onto the development team. But then again, I’m not sure.

6:00 they have different shirt colors, that makes the different characters -Miyamoto at some point

Ah yes, my favorite Nintendo franchises. Zelda, Mario, Animal crossing, and T O O L D U R A B I L I T Y.

What frustrates me about these games is how, for all the dev's talk of wanting to "innovate" and "not remake the old games", they haven't really added anything to the series, besides stickers, paint and origami. 95% of the changes to these games are just subtractions. "The old games had partners, so we removed them", "The old games had FP, so we removed it", "The old games had badges, so we removed them", "The old games had EXP, so we removed it", "The old games had unique characters, so we removed them", etc. If you just remake Star Wars, but take away every character except Luke and Vader, and every location except the Tatooine and the Death Star, you haven't made something innovative just because you also put stickers and paint over everything.

People: Oh, things break in Zelda now, interesting. Nintendo: Break, Break, Break, Break...

“Even you can break.” Ha, I’m already broken.

Yet another series that’s alienated its fans over time. I wish people were more eloquent and calm about their opinions. Great video and take on the events as always, Mr. Scott.

Super Paper Mario is NOT the reason the series went downhill, it’s that the development team changed.

Paper Mario stopped being good when unique characters weren’t a thing anymore. Say what you will about the gameplay of Super Paper Mario, but it had a charming cast and had an amazing story along with them. Now were stuck with generic toads, no party members, and terrible gameplay gimmicks that won’t last and are just padding to try and act like they’re proper replacements for what made Paper Mario such a strong title in the first place. I have no faith in this game because it’s clear the Paper Mario I love died a long time ago and Nintendo has been trying to replace it with what they think is better for years since then.

I liken the idea of the origami people being like higher dimensional entities. Because the paper Mario characters are all flat 2D images, where as the origami people are taking that and folding in on themselves to form 3D looking things that can manipulate and literally fold space on itself. Kinda like if as 3D humans would, meet a 4th dimensional entity. It could probably fold space/time on itself just like these guys can. Funny thing is Mario already has dabbled in this ability in the other paper mario games. This is just its logical conclusion so not sure why he denied Peach in the beginning as if it was a bad thing ya know? Unless this paper folding power is akin to some kind of dark art or something.

I know this is impossible. What do you think would be the reaction from the Paper Mario devs if Bug Fables were to somehow outsell and overshadow Paper Mario: The Origami King?

I'm still shocked that... *ONE OF THE BOSSES IS A FRICKING TAPE*

Scott : "Durability" Me : Peace, see ya in three years when they try Paper Mario again

"Don't worry I won't do anything super stupid like take a 5 minute trailer and turn it into a 2 hour video" Gamexplain: T R I G G E R E D

“Everyone loves forced motion controls” that line gave me so many flash backs to those stupid botw shrines that you had to be super precise with the motion controls.

"Everyone loves forced motion controls!" Vietnam starball flashbacks

I can say that Paper Mario The Origami King was one of my favorites, it was one of the first Paper Mario games I beat so it holds a special place in my heart, sure it has its down but I really enjoyed it.

I hope they add the Febreeze™ boss as paid DLC. Maybe they'll put in that color toad I wanted!

Fire Emblem Three Houses also has weapons that break. This Nintendo breaking realization is bothering me Also Smash online breaks Edit: FE always had this, I was making a joke about Switch games. Please forgive me 😔

Fire emblem: I have a sistem with breakable weapons that make me special plus other mechanics. Other Nintendo franchises: WE HAVE

How much salt ya want Scoot:only a spoonful (pulls out abnormally large spoon)

"I'm gonna tape your mouth shut"? More like "I'm rollin' over here!"

durability in Nintendo games has become .... weird like Zelda: Oh huh,my sword broke,interesting. Looks like I'll have to plan out how I go about baddies to grab their drops and not ruin my good weapons. Animal Crossing: wait huh? Oh....kay? so my axe broke .... I mean it kinda makes sense? It is an island survival setting so I guess i'll make a new one ..... wait I can just buy a new tool? so then what was the point of this? Paper Mario: I'M WEARING SHOES ALL THE TIME IN THE OVER WORLD AND NOW YOU BREAK?

Inb4 "OH NOW BOWSER WAS ORIGAMIED AT THE END OF THE GAME AND NOW YOU HAVE TO FIGHT HIM WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS!"

2:51 I lost it at this part where miyamoto is just wanting everything to break. 🤣

"All the characters are becoming so stale an-" *Bobby freaking commits suicide*

At this point I've given up arguing about how Nintendo has changed over the years for better or worse. For those who are hyped or cautiously optimistic, I hope you end up enjoying the game when it comes out. It does look like fun still, but I also know that I'll probably end up with buyer's remorse.

So... since you spin the stage around during fights... Does that make it turn-based combat?

ok, the Stream convinced me to buy the game. Buying Bug Fables on the Nintendo Switch on July 17th

the funny thing is the characters are all memorable

I loved super paper mario Dimentio is a wonderful antagonist Thanks for all the likes, this is the most I got

I’ve never understood their obsession with putting real world objects in these games with no real explanation, especially since no one in universe actually questions their existence, and since it’s abundantly clear that the Paper Mario world knows they’re made of paper, so you’d think a non-paper giant object would be pretty alien to these paper characters. Like if you’re going to be emphasizing the whole paper aspect, at the very least keep it consistent. Kirby’s Epic Yarn and Yoshi’s Wooly World doesn’t have this problem, literally everything in those worlds are made of their respective material, and it stays cohesive because of it. All the game elements fit the established setting. The Paper Mario things don’t, which is especially jarring when no one questions it!

To elaborate on your point of "it's going to drop the creepy tone very quickly", one of the official trailers mentions that it's "Mario's funniest adventure yet!". Multiple times. And in the Nintendo Minute on it, the hosts had a very light tone, and only mentioned very specific, obviously scripted times where a creepy aspect of the game is shown off, also, most of the promotional material is all bright and colorful, so all that leaves me to believe that it's going to have a happy and/or playful tone, and only get "creepy" in some specific cutscenes and scripted encounters.

“Everything can be broken!!” Like my heart

Koops was a great character design. He and Bobbery were my favorite teammates. Their personalities really shine through in their designs, like Koops is obviously a wimpy kid, so put him in a hoodie and slap a bandaid on his nose to show he gets bullied for being a wimp. Bobbery is a gruff old bob-omb who sails like he controls the sea itself, that's why he has a scraggly stache and a weathered captain's hat. Ms. Mowz is a cat burglar, despite being a mouse, so she wears a mask and heels, and her personality is flamboyant and confident. The only one I could really criticize is the blowing lady, the only thing I remember her for is Mario gripping her boob to make her blow air.

Paper Mario TTYD: original and unique characters Everything after sticker star: T O A D S

4:08 Kinda funny that the Thing Bosses DID actually end up being quite memorable characters. ESPECIALLY Tape, for that matter.

Yeah that joke with Miyamoto did not aged well at all, especially after hearing the recent news that Miyamoto had very little involvement with Origami King's development.

It still baffles me that nobody in the Nintendo higher-ups seems to have realized that people want a style closer to the originals. And like the video mentions, even different gameplay can work if the characters and story are good like in Super Paper Mario (minus the 1-dimensional assistants that aren't absolutely central to the plot). Papercraft can work if it remains an aesthetic and not a gimmick, like how Kirby's epic yarn was basically a Yoshi game (to a weird degree) that worked pretty well, but Yoshi's crafted world was just... not good. Unpopular opinion time: That last point is similar to why I actually found myself disappointed in Super Mario Odyssey, as the hat mechanics felt too gimmicky for me. In comparison to Super Mario Galaxy, the gravity mechanics never felt too intrusive to gameplay, and I never found myself stopping to think "why is this being implemented in this way again?" There's also the collectible inflation that basically makes the tough moons just as worthless as the ones you can buy, find in garbage bins, obtain by kicking a specific rock, etc, but I digress. There are games where gimmicks are fine, like Mario Kart's transition to gliding, underwater, and hover style in 7 and 8, or the wisp mechanics in Sonic Colors, but so far, Nintendo has simply taken these ideas too far, from interesting ideas to making the game fit the gimmick instead of making the gimmick fit the game. Don't get me wrong, sometimes that formula works, such as the creation of Pikmin to fit the idea of controlling an army of little guys in real time, but that should be saved for new IPs, not established series that would need a formulaic upheaval to make the idea work. Sorry I began ranting *again*, but I needed to get this off my chest: I'm concerned for the future direction of the company, as it has become simultaneously too reliant and not nearly reliant enough on its IPs.

So we went from fighting (just to name a few but not all): bootleg Ninja Turtles, an ancient Pharaoh, an Ice king spirit, a general shy guy in a giant toy tank, the heart of a ghost eating monster, multiple giant dragons, a tricky doppleganger, a guy who sucks the life force of low tier fighters to make him all powerful, skeleton pirate king, and a LITERAL 1000 year old DEMON along with a dimensional jester and count dracula romeo.............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................TO A ROLL OF FREAKING SCOTCH TAPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"You can break" SCP-173: its free real estate

I don’t see any problem with the series being more focused with paper, I think it adds a ton to the series, including good jokes, beautiful scenery, and a bunch more. I don’t see why people are so peeved off about it.

Paper: _breaks_ Miyamoto: ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)

I got kinda depressed when I saw the poll on twitter for “who is your favorite boss so far” and they were serious about the boss names.

4:26, "all the characters have become so stale and boring with almost no variety to liven things up." Ok hear me out. While the character design has been extremely poor every release after Super Paper Mario, the dialogue writing has not suffered because of this. For example, a certain section in Color Splash with a Shy Guy that takes the time to level with you and play at the Mario vs minion dynamic that has existed since the beginning of the series overall, was actually a really charming moment for the new games. There are other, similar charming dialogue threads sprinkled around in Color Splash making the game exceptionally entertaining. Despite not having the more unique character designs of the first three games, Color Splash and (most likely) Origami King are nonetheless charming experiences. Overall, I want them to return to the RPG roots of the series, but it's good to see the story-telling and individual game world building hasn't suffered despite doubling-down on the craft supply gimmicks.

6:20 - 6:25 Well you didn't have to stab me like that D:

Scott: Nintendo has had a hard on with breakable weaponary FE: amateurs. Scott: Wha-- FE: I SAID AMATEURS

Miyamoto: EVERYTHING WILL BREAK Me: *has sudden PTSD flashbacks to playing Dark Cloud as a kid*

Bruh i just want a TYD port or remaster and I'll die happy.

Well, if you look at the partners, there are reasons why they aren‘t special. Bobby‘s Story ark is ABOUT him being just a normal bob omb, trying to change the world and Kamek can‘t be special, because Kamek has always been Kamek and also just a „normal“ magikoopa. After playing, I think that they actually are good partners.

0:47 I have always thought this. Though, I've always included SPM into the "Mario Story" category.

To me it feels like when you tell someone a clever joke but they completely missed the point of the joke and say "Ohhh it's funny because he said 'fart". Paper Mario wasn't about being paper, everything was paper because it was a story book. The paper esthetics was more an appropriate artstyle, it was the story, though simple enough, and the adventures while making new friends that were the main point of the game, not "Ohhh it's funny because it's paper".

Well would you look at that. Its actually good.

Super paper mario is the best in the series honestly. I love how unique the game feels and in general was very refreshing after 2 turn based rpgs. Everything after that failed and was very underwhelming

I’d still group Super Paper Mario in the Mario Story section because even if it handles battles differently, it’s still just as story-driven as the previous two titles and it doesn’t focus on the paper gimmick like the three that came after it.

When you think about it, Sticker Star and Color Splash had a durability system too. Things would break after a single use.

This game is awesome You can't change my mind

I was a sucker for Paper Mario and Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door (despite sucking at turn-based fighting games) because their atmospheres, tones, settings, as well as character designs just were so clean and crisp, and then you had Super Paper Mario which wasn't turn-based, however, it threw in that trope later on in the game as a throwback fight! Super Paper Mario had that way of working with what they threw at you while keeping the original aesthetic of the old paper Mario games, while adding some new story, new innovations, and new abilities. It was quite amazing I'd say, but then you have Paper Mario Sticker Star which was good at first, and then just fell flat as you progressed, which I'd say was such a fatally disappointing flaw because at that time that's what marked their downfall. I know I can't claim I'm a "hardcore paper Mario fan" but seeing what Sticker Star and Color Splash did makes me skeptical about any other game involving the title from there on. Of course, this being just personal preference...

0:45 oh wow, shots fired at Gamexplain

Literally just having an enemy that uses coloured pencils or tape would be more Interesting than this.

Seeing Scott wearing giant nerd glasses is the most adorable thing.

I love how a notable amount of your Side of salt videos more or less boil down to "if they'd just make the game GOOD, maybe we'd all LIKE it"

“No wonder I can’t get a new Pikmin game, Paper Mario took all their treasures.” Honestly I was so on the fence about this one, especially with the circular combat being so outside the norm. But seeing the durability mechanic was what pushed me out of wanting buy it.

you could say nintendo sounds like a *broken* record... I'll see myself out.

So has anyone heard of Bug Fables? It's a paper based turn based RPG with insects. Hasn't been anything like that since 2004. Glad someone finally made something like that after a decade and a half.

I just realized. You and one other actually are the only people I watch the outro of because I love it so much.

A lot of people joke on the fact that “paper mario purists” hate the paper gimmick. But it’s one of the 2 main problems the series has now. Problem 1 is having battles no one cares about. Problem 2 is switching from unique characters to generic mario enemies that constantly make paper puns. The dependence on having dialogue and plot points centered around paper makes the series shallow.

The only game that did the paper craft thing well is Yoshi's Crafted World

i almost started to have hope until i saw the bosses made from real world items. especially fucking tape dispenser. something so core to a game being treated like that is hugely indicative of the rest of the game. nevermind the battle and RPG mechanics, or lack there of

When, the grain of salt becomes a full block of granit.

Scott: No you cant just stop having creativity and effort and ruin the game! Nintendo: haha tape go swoosh

You know, considering Mario Odyssey had new kingdoms alongside new citizens makes me wonder why we couldn't get a Sombrero citizen as a partner in this game. I can imagine it dancing and later on attack with their maracas after they are done dancing and maybe have a move where it can boost you up.

ScottFalco needs to mention that his outro is remix 10 rhythm heaven on the ds it took me so long to find the song

If you haven’t seen the Treehouse Live showing, don’t. It confirmed all our fears.

When I saw the colored pencils, ticker tape, and papier-mache I thought they were disconfirming sequel ideas Wait for the Glitter Queen

They take the word *paper* more literally than figuratively.

I love how most of the things he complained about are actually fixed in the game 1. Forced motion controls: you can turn off motion controls 2 this game Might have the system where you need a miscible item in order to complete a boss: No matter what you do you cannot skip important Transformations.

Thankfully, this game was more similar to SPM and corrected a lot of issue and had some unique characters that stood out like Olivia and Bobby. The Legion of Stationary bosses weren't as bad as anticipated and Hole Punch is definitely my favorite plus each object boss had some kind of gimmick that actually caused you to think about some kind of strategy. Like having the direction you travel forcefully changed or your max health being cut in half or the boss only using OHKO moves. Plus coins actually had some kind of proper use in battle. The writing and dialogue was certainly better than the last two games and we actually got to see some growth in certain characters. Plus, being somewhat open world definitely helped this games image and hopefully is a sign that they'll explore that design more in the future. So while TOK is no TTYD, it's anything BUT SS or CS. Did they go overboard with the whole paper shtick? Yes but this time it didn't feel as forced and the game actually had different things to do that we're just tedious menial side quests that solely revolved around paper. Overall, I'd say TOK is definitely a good step in the right direction and I only hope that the next game continue that trend.

I think BOTW’s duribility system made sense, it encourages explorations and tactics ACNH makes sense for early game, your marking things out of twigs and rocks, but not once you get normal or better items This makes no sense from a gameplay standpoint

I always said this paper mario, ttyd and Super Paper Mario is "Mario Story" and in Mario and Luigi paper jam that's a entirely different Mario

“If you’ve seen one toad, you’ve seen them all ! They’re all the same to me !” ~ King Olly

“Don’t worry, I’m not gonna take a 5 minute trailer and turn it into a 2 hour video.” Me: (checks how long the video is)