Police Interview Of A Master Manipulator 

Hey, don't be so hard on yourselves. It's a great video :)

No need to apologize at all I really enjoyed this video and the quality is fine! Thank you for the content and I hope the new videos you’re working on are going well!

Don’t apologize, was still very intriguing. This case is still so mind boggling to me, I’ve seen all of the datelines and the tv show they made, crazy!

Thank you all 🎉 I really hope the Pike County murders in Ohio are in the works after the trial is over 🤞🏽

Always great content and narration! Red Tree is Topps!!

Omg yes 👏 🤣🤣👏👏👏👏👏

Lol

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IM WEAK

tonyholidaymusic , that was the best comment anyone has ever written for a long time .

right? suuuuuper flat

😂that’s what I was just thinking. It was the “help, help” with the most lacklustre insincerity! That got me 😂 anything after that I can’t even remember.

“Help wait. Please. Stop. Help.” 🥱

Never heard her give an address. I would think that would be the 1st thing to say. Idk though

bored 😂im sorry but you’re right

Can you imagine being a dispatcher and hearing that? I would have laughed (and maybe gotten fired).

The "helps" were hilarious 😂

Yet people wonder why some of us men become psychopaths and sociopaths, I can't stand these women and their rights I never voted for it,

Betsy's daughters testified against him.

Never forget. You are not judged by a jury of your peers. You are judged by 12 people who are too dumb to get out of jury duty or people who have nothing better to do. Consider how dumb the average person is, now realize that 50% of them are dumber than that. Now out of that population, you have the people who are too dumb to get out of jury duty and those who don't even care if they go. Those are the people deciding your fate.

makes me angry

And his wife was murdered

@mark, same here!

And they’ll do it again. Never fails. No real emotion of any kind except rage for being the odd person at work and/or leisure.

Ha ha I know that's right

Same here. That's a good sign that you have a conscience!!! Take good care of yourself and be safe. Isabelle in Victoria BC.

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That 911 call is probably the strongest evidence of involvement and guilt other than 4k video footage or DNA 🧬. I’ll be replaying that for years to come if I need a solid laugh.

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It sure was.

Laughed my ass off. Lolol

Lol

She’s a serial killer. As a women this is very rare. You could be correct but some serial killers don’t become active until later in life but they had the sickness their whole life. Probably always thinking about it and when they do it they need to do it again.

I suspect there were more before Betsy

I feel like her condition developed over her life, cuz she acts like everyone around her is stupid and can't pick up on the fact, that she certainly does not act like someone who was in a life threatening situation just hours ago. If you get away with murder multiple times and then almost frame someone else for it, I can see how someone gets a superiority complex, like they are the smartest person around.

Actually for some reason, a lot of female serial killers don’t have their “killer instincts” activated until later in life, so this isn’t as uncommon as you’d think. Definitely fascinating

Exactly. I would check with Naples, Florida cold cases.

Damn watch the whole story on dateline she trash fr fr

Just fyi YT takes a huge cut out of superchats and such, you pretty much gave 50% of the $5 to RU-vid and the other half to the creator (which will have been cashed out a month later), so yeah you bought them a straight black coffee a month later

It's the thought that counts,🥺

@@bakielh229and? Damn dude let the guy donate to his favorite creator

​@@bakielh229 Good to know

And killed the man this interrogation is about.

And killed the innocent mentally disabled man at the beginning of the video

Thank you for addition,as if two murders and false incarceration were not enough. Her demeanor during this interview is appalling. Supposedly in fear of her life and killing this man she talks about Florida and insurance. RIP to those precious lives lost. May she rot, burn and live forever in Hell.

And of course, poor Louie Gumpenberger!

conclusion is stay away from people , never know what they been up to

She still had use for him at the moment. If she hadn't been caught on this, she would have made her way to him!

@@mahoganysweets67 the scary thing is, she almost got away with everything. She got herself caught. LOL

@@mahoganysweets67 "you'd be counting your blessings that you're still alive". You went from 1st person to 2nd person in the next sentence. Messed with my head for a sec.

I know she's one scary bitch

@@Justice-ef9sk You are always the only one who can get yourself caught. You're the only one who can get you into trouble.

Agreed. You think she could have tried a bit harder?! Sickening.

Republikarencans. )

All for the $$$$$$

I mean idk they both are pretty deplorable lol

Imagine if he had gotten the death penalty. 😮

I mean, MURDERING someone is pretty bad!!

Totally agree! She has no empathy whatsoever! She is the kind of person you do not accept any beverages from

Agreed 💯💯💯💯💯

She looks like the most manly chick I’ve ever seen. Can barely call that thing a female

Have to imagine, how many times was she a Karen in a store, returning stolen items, or complaining about the cook on her burger, just always trying to get away with something. Haven't atched stuff like this in a while. I'm a lot more cynical now. I used to think, wow, these people are crazy, all of us out here are sane. Nope. Legally, there's a difference between someone that murders and doesn't (ideally, Russia was the exception to that for 3 years apparently), but psychologically, there's no difference between someone willing to stab someone in the back to get ahead at work or in life and someone literally willing to stab someone in the back. So there's garden variety non-murderous crazies all around us, every day. Probably 25% of the population or more, not functioning well, or right, or how they should be. Society's lurking iceberg, we're a bunch of animals, and nothing can really control us.

There’s a great Tv show about her

@@nointro Yeah for entertainment. It’s trash informationally.

that poor man. what a nightmare to go through especially after losing his wife

What about the kids? 😱

Russ was actually way too stupid to realize it was Hupp. Part of the reason they got a conviction the first time was because he insisted his wife committed suicide despite being stabbed 55 times. He was the only one in the world to believe it was a suicide.

that's juts devastating what a horrible thing to go through, just unimaginable.

Absolutely. To have to sit there and watch her lie, and just have to stay completely silent and not jump up and down and shout from the rooftops what a liar she is, took a level of self control I don't think I would have been able to exhibit.

wat

Like life is great and they are friends at a coffee shop.

5 times

Did they have to show the whole long boring conversation? Could they have shown a little and told us it went on for 20 minutes.

Well if you’ve never been in the real situation you wouldn’t know. I had a home intruder I didn’t cry or feel anyway about it other than think on what else to do for home security. And knowing at least that one won’t be back to do it again.

Suggest you look up what a "true femme fatale" is. She is in no way one. Okay, i'll save you the trouble. It is a female who uses their attractiveness, sensuality, and sexuality to either lure a potential victim, or to have the victim “lower their guard" or dismiss entirely any normal wariness, to a potentially dangerous/life threatening situation. She is simply a psychopathic murderer who happens to be female.

Femme fatale's are attractive though.

Femme fatal? More like a bad Jessica Fletcher....

Yes indeed! Believe me she will burn 1 day when her time comes when she passes!

May God keep his soul and may the hands of evil be bound. Now! Take the power off these evil actors - leave the thoughts or desires to do harm, amen!

That’s terrible. What a nasty woman she is.

@@tosheacollier2039 yeah, she REALLY is!! Karma is a fickle bitch, and I wouldn't want to be ANYWHERE near that woman when it comes for her!

@@ameliashostak4764 neither do I . 😂😂 may god be with her.

YEAAAA!..I was hoping for this!

And she is charged in Betsy's murder as of 2022.

@@SGTASMR i was looking for just this also

Death penalty isn’t a good idea for her. Rot in prison.

Thank You for writing this update. I was about to look into it. I'm sure she's now busy manipulating fellow inmates 😵‍💫

Or a failed SVU case 😅

I’m still laughing and the interrogation has started. When she says “Get out! Get Out!” It sounds like she talking to her cat.

THE ruth of all evils is lust for money

@@thisistheway7529 I know Ruth. She's hot!

@@thisistheway7529 Bullshit. This woman is evil to her core. No money of money would cause me as a good person commit these acts.

I hope that she is reminded 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days of the year that she is a brutal, disgusting, nasty, horrible, stankin, evil, cruel, ugly, gross of a serial murderer. Oh, and a liar. Hope she rots!

@@thisistheway7529 Root

What movie? I’m interested.

I s Russ Still in Jail

@Bradley Baker Thankfully, Russ' conviction was thrown out on appeal & he was released 3 years later. Didn't stop Pam Hupp from calling the cops & trying to implicate Russ in a suspicious drive-by shooting of her car. Police didn't fall for it this time and hauled her greedy ass to the station. 😂

You have a point however the cops dropped the ball

It was more of the cops not doing their homework and having tunnel vision. There’s so many men that either have been released or still behind bars due to detectives tunnel vision and ignoring key evidence.

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Likewise

Me too girl, i think it reminds me no matter how bad life can be its never as bad as these dummys😂😂

Me too lol and I don't know why

I’ve been watching so many of them over the past few days. It’s a fixation at this point. I think it’s partly because you rarely get to see these in it’s entirety on the news and stuff, maybe? I’m not sure. True crime has always fascinated me.

Its because trash exists in this world and we hope it gets taken out like the garbage.

She talked as if she had just come from getting a manicure, not from a home invasion/robbery and self-defense shooting.

@@Dehmitz Right! Thats another thing the police should have noticed. This woman, that was so distraught supposedly after having to kill a man, is so calm and relaxed having conversations about humidity. She was just "forced" to murder! For most, that would be life changing, and the shock and trauma alone would have a normal person on the floor in fetal position. But she was cool as ever. Talking about the weather.

Many psychopaths have narcissistic tendencies and love to be the center of attention. Everything is always someone else's fault and they are always the innocent party.

Is Baldy interrogating this woman for just BSing with her....wtf

@@richardguevara9486 just in there trolling her. They do this in order to build her character profile that will be turned over to prosecution psychologists who will then use her (in)actions as typical evidence of psychopathic killers. Also to keep it more of a chatty, friendly atmosphere so she doesn’t ‘lawyer up’ which she ALMOST did!

I thought the same thing about the railing, but also how did her mom get out there to fall if she had 8x the normal dose of sleeping pills in her system? One normal dose makes most people sleep for hours!

My first question came about the photo of Betsys husband in custody by the police . How long did it take to figure out that it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to stab someone 50 MoFo times and not get any blood on them ? According to their looks in the photo , it hadn't hit them yet cuz they got their man no question.

How I thought of it was this Old lady comes out and sees he bar is loose pushhes on it and pulls it trying to get it into place. Pushes real hard and falls through. That’s the only way I could see it happening

A seemingly mentally challenged man at that. She completely took advantage of him and then took his life all the while he barely understood what was going on. I’m sick to my stomach

Yeah a couple weeks before she tried to do the same thing to a woman and the woman was smart and called the police about the incident.

He was mentally slow. He had no idea what was going on.

Especially considering that innocent man was also disabled and vulnerable.

I mean she also murdered someone so I think the morals part is out the window haha

Make sure you scream your address...

Yeah, she literally sounds like she's reading a script or showing someone how not to act. It's actually ridiculous.

...and she is a horrible actor...

"Oh dear, oh my... get out of my house you strange person whom I don't know. Get out."

@@JCC503 lol that's spot on! So funny

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A lot of people get a kick out of being the victim and all the attention they receive.

Well, this bitch is a psycho. She doesn’t have empathy at all. It’s all about her, and her needs, everyone else is just a tool to be used in that venture.

So would you understand if someone could take advantage and murder someone who is mentally stable?

Yes that is exactly what I said!🙄

@@Deisi666 what are some other things that you have said?

I don't mean to offend anyone but these people are the true personification of the devil... Liars like this would frame Black men for crimes all the time back in the South especially and cause mass mob attacks and hangings.

Hell she did get away with the other one and had they audacity to pull this in revenge. She's a sick, cold women.

@@russell8318 yeah she really is. I'm glad she got HERSELF caught! Lol Talk about IRONY...🤣

@@Justice-ef9sk hell yeah. Im not one to ever say they should be in jail or I wish they was, but she is one of the exceptions. Her dad shoulda shot her at the wall.

Insane she should have never called the police lol I still think it would have eventually caught up with her

@@TiaaBankss I'm not sure. That bitch DA was so corrupt already.... as well as the police department that pretty much COACHED Pam on what to say in court. Smh. I feel so bad for her husband, he shouldn't have done one day in jail for a crime he did not commit, let alone the years he was stuck in there.

Fully agree Leah. Crazy how bad her acting is and that she tried to get away with this thinking her acting would get her through it 🤦🏻

At all! 🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️ The situations awful but her acting cracked me up, it was just unbelievable from the get go

Sho' damn.

"HELP! Help? Help! Helllp"

That 911 call was as if she was doing a parody of a fake call.

Preach brother . Yea that's spot on

2:35 "what they found was shocking" lines like those however, I hate, its like clickbait crap IN a video.

It's pretty good, an overly dramatic or attention grabbing thing on occasion but not a lot of interruptions. Or commercials every 2 minutes. 😉

Ακριβώς έτσι και σε μένα το ίδιο

Bang on mate 👌 I totally agree with your comment.

Totally. One would be in shock or something

That IS a psychopath ... NO conscience, no boundaries. They MUST "win".

@@anothercomment3451 aka a national socialist party

@@seasonedbeefs :( Mayhaps ):

The last 10 minutes were excruciating to watch. All that small talk ugh

She also almost counselor decide if he opened the passenger side car door or the drivers side car door

I'm surprised she didn't say she couldn't decide if she was driving a car or riding motorbike at the time.

Dead giveaway

You could literally see the light bulb moment of "oh crap if it's in reverse the doors would be locked." Crazy.

Yes. We live in one Hell of a world nowadays.

@Its me or whatever I sm 65. Turned my spouse in for rmbezzlement and also reported pedo crap. Now I am targetted by "heroes", both law & mil. Swat came to escort me from hotel, just to harrass. The criminals now where costumes. Shut up ... if YOU do not know what is Actual in this world.

@Its me or whatever you're drunk

The woman is NOT a serial killer by definition.

@@anothercomment3451 I hate to be that person but it literally has always been like this since the beginning of time

Thays because the judge and prosecutor were divorced bitter bitches with nothing better to do with their time than to frame an innocent man because they hate men. Jurors and the judge and prosecutor deserve every bit of misfortune they went through plus some!

They usually do..

I'd hate to have that last name lol

more like Hank

Didn't she want to frame him because she didn't want him coming after the life insurance money she'd swindled from the wife's death?

Where? It cut off before that for me.

@@rabbit3212010 if you watch the full interrogation you’ll see

It's not in this video. I watched until the end.

@@queenofswords6463 I watched the whole thing. That's my point. It ends before the part that you mentioned. It ends abruptly at 35:08

@@queenofswords6463 Can you please point me to where I can watch the full confession? I can't seem to find it.

Columbia vibes!

Hahahaha!

Help help help! No i wont go in the car! Help!

Dang ur comment is accurate! 😂

Whose this... Hey hello.... Oops I mean Help

@@susansmith1336 Yeah, oh uh…hep meh 😂

Karen's evil cousin

That'd exactly what he said in the video. I took notes on the whole video.

@@alexawermuth1219 he said "the next person who would pass away was Betsey," which implies the mother was first. It's correct in other parts of the video but I see why someone would be confused.

It was in her plans all along to murder her mom

@alexawermuth1219 8:35 - "The next person that would pass away, leaving Pam with more life insurance money was Betsy..." Sounds out of order to me.

I have a sister just like her. They actually like to hunt at what they did. Like to brag somehow. It’s added rush of power if the person knows she got away with it. She even looks like my sister. Yuk. Very dangerous. And people are so unsuspecting. Even after you tell them. Hard convince them that this person who washed their dishes. Cleaned their car. Made them soup. Was also poisoning them. Hitting their kids or animals. And icing on my damn cake. She tried to murder me. My own older sibling. Amount hundreds other horrible stuff first. It escalates with these diseased minds.

Wtf are you talking about? She literally took the time to convince a dying woman she was such a good and trustworthy friend that she should be entrusted with the money for her childrens futures rather than their father. She then convinced the police, a judge, and a jury to convict a man of murder that was innocent. Seriously…what are you even talking about?

Why be mad at them? They were born like this, be “sad” for them

@@blane2056 no idiot you’re going to get manipulated and take advantage of all your life with that mentality

Hindsight is 20/20

@@blane2056 are you serious ? Fuck this lady

What podcast is that?

@@ralphramsey82 The Thing About Pam - Dateline NBC hosted by Keith Morrison

That's the feminized court system

@@HighFalutinTootin bias started with the police investigation, and continued on through the court trial. Sex, race, religion, culture, are all constructs that impact police and investigators when pursuing a suspect. Where they cannot find evidence of motive and means, they will make it up and be use those constructs to pick and persuade a jury

@@bcd398 Hosted by Bill Hader.

Just rolled a joint literally right when I clicked on your comment I just got done rolling one lol

Facts besides the game system. I need to get another one though. Someday. 🔥

@@ElChapos yes you do bro

I love putting these on and playing a game. I must have watched so many interrogation videos recently while playing the KotOR games

Dude Same! Listening to this channel or EWE while gaming has been my go-to lately! I got spinal cord damage so can't roll well anymore so now I use Raw cones. 😁 The last third is usually pretty turbo charged too, lol

True 😆

That's an insult to apes

Dude I totally see it

So how do you feel about the guilty people in prison?

@@frankhaula good? What kind of stupid question is that

@@beezyb42011 Yes, it is a bit silly, isn't it?

The issue, a lot of the time is eye witness accounts are taken as evidence. It's flakey evidence. The tall tales that are pure bs can be easy to believe if you're gullible. Unfortunately, it's taken into a courtroom.

@@frankhaula what point were you even trying to make here? I’m genuinely curious

I don’t think it’s that surprising tbh. Think of how many people that look just like this lady you see lose their freaking shit in stores at innocent employees over nothing

Agreed. She otherwise seems pretty likeable. 😬🥺

@@antjobert She looks like a typical karen to me.

i think abt how it can happen to me or those i know. someone close to someone in my extended family killed himself and his wife while their daughter was in the other room. it blows my mind. i hope the daughter is okay.

Yes. White people are terrifying...always have been. Don't believe me!?, ask the ancestors

No judgment here, but you "corroborate" an alibi.

I think the State should sell Hupp's excess organs to recipients then send the proceeds to Russ. A kidney, part of her liver, one of her corneas.

He should have sued the incompetent DA

Also, no judgement here, but commas exist if you weren't aware.

@@athena8729 Usually people are compensated for time served when they're exonerated of a crime. I'm not sure if varies state or federally, but I've heard 60k/year.

This is the best comment.

And I'm sure she let the detectives know

Right?? I was thinking that the whole time. I wonder if she gives off a different vibe in person, if intuition would pick up on her being someone not to trust.

Its usually the overly personable ones

I also know a woman like that...She actually tried to kill me and tried to pin the whole thing on me (very scary way of reversing the whole story) There are a lot of enablers around her.. and there is something eerily similar int he behaviour/body language in both the women

Wait, what??? You're aunt is a serial killer???

@@a.nobodys.nobody Unfortunately, yes

​@@marleyskydye_krno way. Anymore info you can tell us? Without upsetting you obviously. I know it's personal

Reminds me of my mother and maternal grandmother

Never interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake. She convicted herself

When there was a long pause after she finished speaking, and one of the detectives said, "Just so I understand..." it was an indication to me that he knew her story had more holes than a slice of Swiss cheese.

I think we should be more critical of the police for screwing up so badly and following bias that the husband is usually the murderer. They overlooked way too many red flags to give her all the credit for being so effective.

​@@bhagen40 the narrative that women are always victims of men needs to change.

@@bhagen40 true. Abuser's can be female just like male. It's just men are the abuser 8 out of 10 because they are stronger then a woman. BUT the truth and talking about what happened will be the real truth.

This is the woman the movie is based on? Heck.

There's something especially wicked about killing your own parents for their money.

She is evil

@@wiseauserious8750 Yes, I wonder if there are any moments in the dead of night without distractions when they are alone with their thoughts whether they ever ponder the enormity of what they have done.

What of her husband????? She killed her mum, stabbed Betsy, put her husband in jail for 3 years and apparently stabbed the guy that helped her make the 911 mock call...

@@wiseauserious8750 or xff. Le d Z x

That's the point of the psychopath, and how they can get away with what they're doing for so long. The "happy family, good, hard working" facade was their way of going about unnoticed. Watch more psychology focused true crime vids and you'll learn more about the psychiatric side of wtf is up with these people.

Real narcissist and psychos will actually try really hard to look as normal as possible

Believe me when I tell you that she profiles certain type of men and can spot them a mile away. Trust me again, every man she has ever married has specific things in common such as feelings lonely, low self esteem, short, overweight, Brad Pitt syndrome!

@@joejohnson6321 WOW great comment. Yeah they look for broken people (mostly due to childhood traumas) so they can control them easier. They are not attracted to healthy people and healthy people would not date them either. Thanks for your comment, I get it now.

@@joejohnson6321 And by the way what is " Brad Pitt syndrome " ?

He ended up with $2 million vs $150k so he got the last laugh! Bwahahahaha

😂😂😂

Haha oh yes

Whats ur issue with insurance?

Wow… That’s a lot of hate for people taking time out of their jobs when the only information they have is what the prosecutors give them.

There was a tonne of evidence at trial establishing an alibi.

@@CopWifeCopMom surely, they also heard from the defense. Was it really beyond a reasonable doubt?

Okay Sherlock.

@@theseagulls7035 Except the judge, who happened to be high school friends with the prosecutor, didn’t allow the defense to name Pam as a suspect and weren’t allowed to mention that Pam was the beneficiary of Betsy’s life insurance. That’s why Russ was granted a new trial. So to blame the jury is ridiculous when they weren’t allowed to hear all the information.

Yeah really real innocent lmfao

I almost got kidnapped once. A very short man picked me up and started carrying me to his vehicle. Then he dropped me. He spoke in crazy gibberish. But overall message was that he wanted to drug me and sell me! He said so many crazy things to me that it's diabolical, and my brain possibly stopped comprehending it because I don't quite remember it all. I then was called into a police station because my friend was a policeman and they caught the guy within an hour! Well lo and behold, I couldn't identify the man, all I knew he was short and bald, ai also remember his crazy eyes when he spoke, he looked possessed, .... anyways sorry for boring you/// my point is, I just was SO traumatized that I couldn't 100% ID someone who held me in their arms an hour ago. I still don't remember his face or half the things he said. I only remember bits and pieces. So he got away scotch free.

@@TODOMATIO so they caught him in an hour and let him go scotch free because you couldnt identify him?

AllState I bet...same morals

And when they just smalltalk talk on and on with a smile about a lot of stuff in their life, you get the sense that they totally forgot to act shocked or sad from the situation

Lol I know right. Reminded me of 40 yr old virgin when he's telling his coworkers about his last sexual escapade.