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Polish Sabre VS Messer (HEMA) 

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@DutchPatterson
@DutchPatterson 2 месяца назад
Polish saber is always a treat to watch, and your natural dynamic footwork and bladework are fantastic. Props to the messer guy for overcoming the reach disadvantage, pressing the distance, and holding his own.
@Druid_Ignacy
@Druid_Ignacy Год назад
Mad respect, you swing this as if it was sport sabre. Funny though, I've recently learned that these sabers aren't similar to used by polish hussars, but these are hungarian hussar sabers :D It gets really confusing since what decide about this is very little detail about handle curvature.
@Elcathar
@Elcathar 7 месяцев назад
Well it seems I'll be playing a role of Actually Guy but you are right and wrong. Right because yeah, it isn't polish HUSSAR saber but wrong because it still is made in style of so called Hungarian - Polish sabers (so sabers made in Polish-Lithuaniam Commonwealth but in hungarian style) , which actually were more popular and used longer than "classical" hussar sabers. So yeah saber on video looks hungarian but it's stil polish saber. And judging by the look of it this particular saber on video was made in todays Poland, by Polish guy whose name is Chodkiewicz.😉
@korvettenkapitanmetzinger8382
@korvettenkapitanmetzinger8382 7 месяцев назад
The person in blue is using a Messer and using Messer techniques
@ireneuszkurek635
@ireneuszkurek635 5 месяцев назад
The hussar saber was a weapon used at the very end; after crushing the lance, the hussar had a koncerz and obuszek at his disposal. The saber was not used for individual duels on foot, but was used to strike blows from the saddle. Cutting force and speed are increased with a thumb ring. It was a "working" saber, so it was called black in contrast
@yigitmut6465
@yigitmut6465 7 месяцев назад
The Sabre fencer ist amazing to watch. Very good 360 control of his blade. Enjoyed watching. Respekt to both fencers.
@ethanrutevillarreal1506
@ethanrutevillarreal1506 Месяц назад
you're so german xd
@yigitmut6465
@yigitmut6465 Месяц назад
@@ethanrutevillarreal1506 xD
@l1nthalo196
@l1nthalo196 9 месяцев назад
This style looks very nice 😎 Where did you learn polish sabre? From the book from Richard Marsden? Also did you have a chance to fence against people that do british military sabre? If yes, how do these styles compare?
@hhelminn
@hhelminn Месяц назад
The footwork is amazing! I especially like the red one's footwork and "style". Looks cool!
@eelyy212
@eelyy212 8 месяцев назад
Beautiful! Looks like something out of a movie
@charliecarpenter2840
@charliecarpenter2840 7 месяцев назад
New sub, That was amazing to watch , amazing skills
@A_Medieval_Shadow
@A_Medieval_Shadow Год назад
Very graceful, I like it
@m3lonm4n
@m3lonm4n 6 месяцев назад
Hi man, great video! I just wanted to ask about your saber from Ensifer. How is it going now ? Do you still like it ?
@AnrachPlays
@AnrachPlays Год назад
Do you have recommendations for gloves to use with that saber? I assume that's the Hungarian saber from Purpleheart Armory, I have the same one but the only gloves I have are padded gloves for rapier and other light weapons, which are deeply insufficient, and SPES heavies which don't fully fit through the sword's guard and make it impossible to hold properly.
@conor6607
@conor6607 Год назад
Have you considered Red Dragons or Infinity Gloves? The latter might be too large as well, but they still aren't as large as lobster claws so they might fit.
@planken203
@planken203 5 месяцев назад
seems like a fun sport to get into, how do you start it?
@Kirill_Ivanov.
@Kirill_Ivanov. 2 месяца назад
Omg, polish saber is gorgeous here. I want to learn it, but there is not a single teacher in Russia. Or I just don't know about them.
@moristar
@moristar 4 месяца назад
Sabre fencer gives off this Cossack vibe of a bit reckless and more flashy style compared to the composed style of the Polish military.
@DutchPatterson
@DutchPatterson 2 месяца назад
Have you seen Polish dudes sparring? They crazy
@moristar
@moristar 2 месяца назад
@@DutchPatterson you probably didn't see Ukrainians :D not that many unfortunately, but classical Polish sabre to Cossack sabre technique is what British naval officer to Johny Depp's Jack Sparrow :D
@18ps3anos
@18ps3anos Год назад
Nice bout! Where did you get those pants ?
@geminiblue6677
@geminiblue6677 6 месяцев назад
Please correct me if wrong, but the polish saber here looks too light. Wouldnt you have to flow through with each cut rather than immediately pull back instead ?
@FalseEdgeHEMA
@FalseEdgeHEMA 6 месяцев назад
No, that's a stylistic preference. The Sabre is a Black from Ensifer if you wanna check the specs. It's better not to wind up or follow through. Economy of motion is key
@federico5440
@federico5440 Год назад
Pretty nice, what is song's name?
@wave7949
@wave7949 Год назад
Romeo by Nilived
@S.Gamedev-zc2wp
@S.Gamedev-zc2wp Месяц назад
Polish sabre guy does a lot of the thing that reminds me of that trope with katana users returning it to scabbard to strike again
@janektarnogrocki2898
@janektarnogrocki2898 6 месяцев назад
The thing is that the movements in Polish Cross-Cutting Art look different
@KararKarar-uv7ge
@KararKarar-uv7ge 7 месяцев назад
Wow
@iantheduellist
@iantheduellist Год назад
The guy using the messer dosen't seem to use it in the way that was described by the manuscripts. I think it would have been more effective to do more binding and winding against the saber. Especially in the ways Lecküchnner used it.
@18ps3anos
@18ps3anos Год назад
But given the way that the "polish fencer" is using the sabre, it has no benefit to the messer user to seek the bind if he wants to preserve his arm. That's why in military sabre fencing rarely there is any bind, and when there is, it's really brief.
@iantheduellist
@iantheduellist Год назад
@@18ps3anos But if the messer guy used the thrusts that are seen in leckuchnner, he would easily get hit covered thrust. Also, passing foot against any sort of military saber, can be quite effective, especially with a Zornhuat.
@18ps3anos
@18ps3anos Год назад
@@iantheduellist "he would easily get hit covered thrust." Not in my experience, specially if you initiate that as soon as you get into measure, with barely any blade feel.
@iantheduellist
@iantheduellist Год назад
@@18ps3anos Against miltary saberists, myself inculded, I find covered thrusts without any blade contact quite easy to perform, especially if you're using a heavier blade with passing foot work.
@WinnipegKnightlyArts
@WinnipegKnightlyArts Год назад
Yes, he would benefit greatly from forcing a bind, just exchanging cuts like this is a method of fencing with messer (the long range gameplan such as Lemstucke and Ansetzen etc) but forcing the bind and closing would greatly limit the opponent's ability to cut to his arms and legs.
@BLACKIE16491
@BLACKIE16491 9 месяцев назад
Southpaw Vs Rightie
@zamolxezamolxe8131
@zamolxezamolxe8131 7 месяцев назад
nice, but a bit too liniar. circular movements generally defeat static and liniar opponents
@KorEditing
@KorEditing 6 месяцев назад
flashy but effective? hmmm
@FalseEdgeHEMA
@FalseEdgeHEMA 6 месяцев назад
Ask my medals 🏅
@KorEditing
@KorEditing 6 месяцев назад
@@FalseEdgeHEMA sure ok, hema medals, how effective is this flashy fighting in a practical sword fight?
@clif_plays
@clif_plays 6 месяцев назад
@@KorEditinghow many practical sword fights do you find yourself in these days?
@Szyndzielnia
@Szyndzielnia 6 месяцев назад
Polska sztuka krzyżowa - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oOBA2FQRqfU.html&ab_channel=SieniawskiFencing
@makoado6010
@makoado6010 5 месяцев назад
since when is polish? sabre made in hungary at 600 from avar rapier. even the name com from hungarian name: szablya what mean ~it cut.
@user-pc1zb3kh6l
@user-pc1zb3kh6l 6 месяцев назад
Обожаю старую технику фехтования на польской сабле. Не хватает кольчужных или ламелярных наручей, но и так аутенчичнинько. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ljExTEPNFnM.html
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