This is easily my favorite Linux channel, even when the videos are things I already kinda know, because Veronica never does clickbait titles and is generally calm and reasonable.
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We need more folks like you in the Linux community. A completely rational, calm video explaining what's going on with Pop_OS. Awesomeness. And as an aside, I've been pronouncing it "guh-nome" since the days of Ximian Gnome... 2000ish? Rock on.
Just installed Pop_OS on my main desktop. In the process of giving it a proper go. I was pleasantly surprised that the NVIDIA drivers worked quite well and I was able to play Elden Ring w/ Proton with no issues. Now that Linux gaming is a real thing I may make the switch permanently.
It works just as well on Ubuntu proper. Probably not a good idea to use a distro based on a distro based on a distro -- you're too far removed from the source at that point.
Don't listen to Shawn here. Actually, Canonical has sort of abandoned Ubuntu desktop support. They realized it's not the best way for them to make bank. Going with something like PopOS backed by a company with every reason to support desktop users is a much smarter move.
@@RedSntDK It's interesting, Pop didn't work for me a couple of years ago when I tried it on my System76 laptop. I can't remember what game was giving me an issue, but Ubuntu worked fine. My daughter has a refurb windows machine that I put Pop on when she fudged up the Windows OS and she has no issues with gaming. Her only problem is the machine doesn't wake up from when the lid is closed... And I'm too lazy to look at it. I'll probably be giving Pop another chance when I have some time to mess around.
System76 isn't canonical. They don't have a history of bad decisions (at least not as of yet). If System76 says this is needed, I'm willing to trust them for now. They make a good product!
I've been usung Pop!_OS for almost 2 years now. Honestly, when I read about the update plans it never occurred to me to switch distros. I like it as my daily driver and their developers clearly know what they are doing. I recall the complaints some people have had about the lag between the releases of Ubuntu and the subsequent Pop!_OS releases. "Patience is a virtue" definitely applies here. When it comes to Cosmic/Rust I prefer done right to done fast, especially with Kernel changes relating to Rust in the pipeline.
Nice job on being ahead of the gnome pronunciation questions, lol. Though I'm a wm user, I look forward to seeing what they come up with. DWM is nice, and bspwm is surprisingly cosy.
It's good to hear that. I''m a distro hopper and I thought I found Pop!_OS as my ultimate distro. I used Mint because of its less resource consumption. But using Pop I feel more comfortable. I'm going to build my main machine I hope to base it on Pop. I found your channel recently. Damn, you're doing great job :D
I really appreciate your content and love seeing you pop up on my wall. You are my favorite Linux RU-vidr by far and now I'm considering installing POP_OS! 😅
One of the things I like most about your videos is that you state the facts, give your opinions and acknowledge that other people might have a different view.... and that it is ok! I wish more people were as open minded as you
I was surprised with how immediately pleased I was with Pop OS. It’s my first Linux distro that sets up a recovery partition. It saved my butt over the holidays, when I wrecked my desktop trying to remove pop desktop and install KDE at a house with terrible Internet. I now know, don’t nuke pop desktop if installing a second DE, and don’t switch from the default display manager, unique to Pop OS but I haven’t researched why. I booted up the recovery partition, and since I keep /home separate, I had my environment back up in ten minutes with my profile intact. No flash drives, no waiting for a fresh ISO, and the fastest system recovery I’ve ever had. It isn’t perfect - I did have to set back up a mount point in fstab for my secondary drive and set ZRAM back up, but I’d rather have to do that over the system making a bad assumption that existing files were OK and failing the restore process as a result.
Another great video. I'm thinking of switching from Mint to Pop!_OS as my main distro. If I need the latest software, Flatpaks are fine (plus the odd Appimage), so I'm not worried that there will be no 22.10 release. I wish the Pop Shop did a better job of distinguishing between Debs and Flatpaks, but I'm okay with the command line for installing the latter.
I think this is a very SMART move for them. With a yearly update schedule, you won't get nonsense like what LTT went through when Linus tried using Pop. It's a great distrob for people want things to just work, and the quick, sometimes slightly buggy releases only got in the way of that.
Ive been using linux as my main and laptop OS for a few years now. Your vids have taught me alot and I thank you for that. Ive recently distro hopped out of oblivion and on to Pop OS. And with some tweaking im very happy with the OS overall and will gladly wait till System76 comes out with a new update. Thnx again for all the vids and keep up the good work Veronica. o7
I stopped distro hopping when I landed on PopOS and I've been happy ever since. While I am a little concerned about their release cycle changing to yearly, I am certain that any important system updates will still be released. Also, like you said, most of my apps are through flatpak. Except Steam, because I can't seem to get the flatpak version to work properly. So, for now I'm sticking with PopOS.
Great content you don't see anywhere else. I really like the straight forward direct communication with a lot of attitudes/opinions with facts backing them up in a sort of "argggh tone". From my experience these are the traits of "true professional linux users". Note: I personally use: Private use: POP OS Enterprise use: RHEL 8/9
I’ve been out of the Linux loop for a couple years now, and was wondering if any new Linux channels had popped up since then. I stumbled upon your channel recently and was happy to see a new face! Your videos are refreshingly different from the usual Linux/tech videos I’ve been used to for several years. Instant fan of the channel! Thanks for the neat content!
I would be less concerned about Pop rebuilding their base than Gnome's direction. Also, if System 76 does the same stellar job with their new Distro as they have with the current and their hardware, I am rather excited to see what they do. Of course there will be bumps as in all things new, but I have no doubt they'll have a plan to succeed.
I used to distrohop a lot. Always going back to linux mint. But then pop!os really got me hooked on windows tilling and everything. I think building your own de is a way to go. That's why i love cinnamon that much. System76 knows what they are doing, i have complete faith.
If you learn to install whatever window manager you want from base packages, there's basically no reason to distrohop. Pretty much the main differentiator of distros is what display manager they come with out of the box (and their theme). Just install a base distro like Debian, and then install whatever window manager you want on top of it.
Recent Pop_OS migrant and have been quite pleased so far. Not concerned about System76 skipping an interim upgrade. I am more interested in a new and unique desktop environment. I too like the tiling feature and have accepted the 'guh-nome' desktop after years on xfce. Thanks for another great video! :)
Being a Linux Mint user, which only gets major updates every two years, I don't have any issues at all with Pop!_OS skipping 22.10. But given the sheer number of desktop environments we already have for Linux, not to mention stand-alone window managers, I wish System76 would focus on making their System76 tools DE (and distro) agnostic instead of marrying them to GNOME or COSMIC.
I just left windows and installed pop os 22.04 on my laptop and pc. It's awesome and fast. Getting games to run is tricky and crashes often require the mounted filesystems to be repaired. But I'm curious and having fun!
After many years I was working in linux mint, andI was not happy with many failures in 2-3 last releases. Therefor, as many of us I am starting jumping method to find some other, for me daily driver distro. I try MX, opensuse, Manjaro, Antix, Fedora, but nothing. Then I hear about some changes in pop os, and I was happy. PopOS is my daily driver for PC and Laptop too. I am waiting for great changes from system76 people. Thank you Veronica, that such a nice person is part of popos comunity too. sry for may badglisch.
It's so refreshingly weird to hear a reasonable opinion about something like this instead of seeing dozens of angry forum posts. Thanks for being the voice of sanity! :)
Love your videos. As a Windows user who has tried several times to switch to full-time linux (including a stint with Pop_OS), what makes me nervous is that the current version of their distro isn't quite mature and stable enough to keep me away from Windows, so my confidence level in such a big change isn't particularly high. I'll be interested to see how it works out.
I use Arch (btw?!) but yeah .. tiling is definitely the way to go if you're a developer. Sooooo much more streamlined and, somehow, fun ...oh ... and AwesomeWM's (pun intended :P
I am so happy to see another person using a Model M. I finally bought the UniComp version of it this year with the Super Key. Also the plastic from 1984 was really beginning to show its age and weird cracks in the case were showing.
It all kind of depends on how package management is setup. What I mean is take a distro like Arch where AUR was kind of a Flatpack/Snap before these were in wide use. Now that Snap, Flatpack, containers, Linuxbrew exist and are actually really good what the base distro. can or should provide and/or focus on narrows from everything under the sun to basically hardware support (the kernel/kernel drivers) and a unified UI/UX, which isn't trivial, but is narrower than what historically Linux distros handled. I've also almost hit my two decade mark with Linux and I've had the pleasure of compiling custom kernels to eventually after months of custom DSDTs, system freezes, finally getting suspend to work on my laptop, as well as working with unstable Linux distros where the for example sound doesn't work etc.. I don't really want to spend weeks working on getting hardware or software to work every OS upgrade. If that OS upgrade is frequent, eg half a year, that's even more time out of not being able to get work outside of the OS/software upgrading done. I've noticed my Lemur(10) has had all kinds of firmware updates over time, and while System76 isn't perfect, but what is, they are creating a quality product, over time, although I just had to replace my laptop's battery, literally yesterday, but that's my fault for keeping it plugged in 24x7, and that's 2 years after purchase. It's not as though System76 isn't being inventive, eg that Rust OS, COSMIC, System76 is working on looks real nice. tl;dr 1 year is a great cycle time imo for a stable release.
i still think that installing packages via the distro's package manager is the way to go, that's basically why I'm on arch, but seeing everyone recommending the use of flatpaks... it's getting hard to ignore, maybe I'll need to give it a try
Thank you! I’m definitely a fan and user of PopOS, and my next laptop (this year) will be a System76 one. I just don’t have a ton of time to manage my OS and too many issues, and PopOS has been perfect for me.
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If it ever comes to fruition that you and Technology Connections do a collab video, I think the sarcasm'o'meter will go through the roof like no other time in history :D
I'm interested to see where Cosmic goes after growing a bit from it's Gnome extension roots. The current version feels a bit rough to me, but that's OK because it's literally a 1.0 after all. I also really like where Gnome 4x is going, and that kinda seemed like it was a catalyst for Cosmic. Aurgh! I wish the two orgs could get along better, but the hardest problems in technology always seem to be people problems, not technical ones. I've also been trying out the Fedora 37 beta for a few weeks, and that's been just fine. So whatever happens there will be a bunch of fine options to choose from suppose.
GNOME developers have been known as extremely toxic and, I would say, even authoritarian. They want it to be their way or no way, intentionally killing off more and more possibilities for customization and even trying to force the developers of other open source projects to follow their guidelines even though it's none of their business (as it was the case with Transmission torrenting app). Sure, it's their project and they can do whatever they want with it, but they are being extremely inconstructive when it comes to the feedback of the users and even their fellow developers, doing damage to the whole community.
I love jumping around on different Distros !!! I really enjoy your informative and fun videos. The downside of distrohopping - is knowing whats what - in the boot menu. I wish there were an easy way to modulate my menu mahem .....
recently i decided to switch to linux full time and Pop!_os was one of the first ones I tried and after about 10 distros I keep going back to Pop. Really looking forward to the next release.
I honestly don't care that they are skipping this release. POPos is the best distro I have ever used and been using for several years now. I think they have this under control.
New subscriber here, thanks to Jeff at Craft Computing talking about the "Your Tools are Probably Fine" video on his Talking Heads stream. I'm not a Pop!_OS user, but I just don't see the big deal. I could even see the argument for them moving to following the Ubuntu LTS releases only. Look at the bright side--it's still updating more frequently than Debian stable! Also, I've been using Linux for over 20 years. Back when I started, I recall being educated that the proper pronunciation of GNOME was "guh-nome" because that's what the project called itself. In that respect, nothing ever changes--there's always questions and complaints about pronunciation.
been pronouncing G-nome since 2.4 and proud of it! I've been using rolling distros for the most of my linux journey but recently decided that I want a system that is low maintenance, works out of the box and gets out of the way. Being a bit of the rust-stan and reading about direction they're taking decided to give pop a try and have to say It's amazing. Having an option of tiling workspace without the need of manually configuring a wm is a killer feature (and option to disable when not needed) As for their release cycle... if it ain't broken, don't need to fix it great video, keep 'em coming :)
I like System 76 because although it might be expensive it's a quality American brand that specializes in Linux and doesn't whore itself out to Microsoft, and makes its machines in Colorado; while everyone else cheats by cutting out the workforce and makes their products in Chinese sweatshops.
Considering the insistence of Ubuntu on Snaps, would you like to see the 76 team's next project be to go to a Debian base, or will they try to create something from scratch?
Doesn’t matter much to me. Pop!_OS has done a pretty good job of keeping things snap-free, which I tend to prefer on the desktop. I’m not sure what the gain would be for them rebasing against Debian, but if they decided it was the right move for their team, I’d be on board.
Swithich to yearly releases os good idea because it gives you space to organize yourself and set clear plans on what is planed. Having enough time to test everything properly prior to release will only go in their favour of releasing stable and fully funcional release.
I like pop as my pick for distro. I am somewhat indifferent about it all. I didn't really care about intermediate releases when I used Ubuntu. I also feel quite comfortable in Gnome, but I am excited to try a new DE when it ships.
Are the audio issues inside of Pop!_OS still present on anyone's computer? I never quite new how to fix it but I saw it being adressed on matrix and so on.
Hello Veronika, As a Linux beginner (even though I've been using Linux for over 10 years), I really liked your video about Pop-OS. A distro that I really like. Unfortunately, this distro is not as “handy” as Linuxmint Cinnamon, for example. Therefore it would be great if you could show more about Pop-OS. For example, I have already failed to install a Wireguard client that is supposed to access the Wireguard server on my NAS... It's just not quite Debian (I manage it here without any problems) but Ubuntu-like. I would be very happy if you could show something more in depth here, since it is probably the distribution you mainly use. Thank you for your great videos, keep it up! Best regards, Rene
Interesting, but there's just no point trying to compete with KDE 5, especially not with a brand-new desktop environment. It's so vastly superior to all other desktop environments at this point. On a different note, couldn't users desperate for 22.10 updates just manually change their Ubuntu repo references to the latest release? If PopOS is as "based on Ubuntu" as it claims, there should be minimal-to-no compatibility issues. I did that with my KDE Neon install back before they rebased their distro on 22.04.
I switched from POP to Manjaro GNOME 18 months ago (I love the rolling release model), but I'm still using PopShell, because I'm addicted to windows tiling as well. I now fear PopOS is going to stop developing their GNOME extension though.
I have never thought about the fact that i say gnomes when talking about garden creatures, and g-nome when talking about g-nu/linux packages but i also do this , thank you for making some content, here is your engagement.
I'm super excited to see what Rust based linux is gonna be like. Be it kernel modules, desktop environments, anything! Been using Pop!_OS ever since I became a software developer, and hardly ever left it.
I'm using Pop!OS for some time now and loving it. I don't care about this change, it's all fine and I really want to see their new desktop environment. The thing I'm not happy with is that I learn about it today in a video that is now 3 months old while I check their website regularly... Great video btw, and I'm glad I found it since it made me discover your channel!
I've just migrated from 15 years on macos to PopOS based on it being unix-like, NVIDIA support, and "beginner-friendly" reputation. I think part of being beginner-friendly is not possibly breaking your customers' workflow/computers with insufficiently tested releases, so if they say they don't want to split resources I believe them. As someone who was using a 2015 MBP running MacOS Catalina (released 2019) up until last week, clearly I'm not super invested in the bleeding edge of computing. I've only joined the linux community very recently, but have been taken aback by the tendency of users to become hysterical over trivial things. Thank you for explaining the issue in a reasonable way.
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to be fair I quite liked my journey with POP, but I switched even before this announcement, due to POP holding back Nvidia GPU driver (even if upstream Ubuntu had newer version), the version POP was using contained bug which affected my.usage. but such announcement would certainly did not drive me away, I think it's fair and I am really looking forward to see what becomes of POP/Cosmic.
Every time I want to try pop os it just never works. No matter what machine or virt machine I use it just gets stuck on install. Gets to a certain percentage and just stops.
I'm considerably older than you I assume. I'm not even from the same continent as you. I first typed on a ZX81, used CBM PET's at school and my first computers were a VIC20, C64 and then an Amiga 500 and 1200. But I love the fact you appreciate those machines and the early days of home computers. I've forgotten a lot of it but I used to be a COBOL/CICS developer too (sorry I far preferred PL/1 and IMS back in the day). Keep up the excellent work. I also found Linux many years ago (Red Hat 5 I think) and have run it ever since (alongside a Windows gaming machine). I suspect people who have experience of an OS other than Windows and MacOS are more likely to look at Linux. Question: Have you watched Halt and Catch Fire? If not then please, please, do so.
I'm an LTS user, I recognize the desire for rolling releases, but I wouldn't mind if all distros based on ubuntu only released new "versions" on the LTS release with incremental updates occurring as point releases in-between major LTS launches.
as someone who has played about with Linux for a couple years, but only started daily driving Linux (Pop Os specifically) in the last 6ish months, I've never had an issue with flat-packs, or understood the issue with them. Also, the tiling windows feature is absolutely my favourite thing.
This looks to me like a software and hardware vendor behaving in a calm and responsible way. I'm gradually becoming a big fan of Pop OS. It's well constructed, and like you, I'm really liking the tiling features. Most of my work revolves around CNA, DevSecOps, CI/CD, Kubernetes and Service Mesh, so a solid Linux platform is a must. It's great to see and hear someone with your knowledge and experience articulating an equally calm and sensible approach to their desktop. Thanks for the great content.
Pop! is by far my favourite - every time I do the inevitable "distrohop" - I first install pop-shell on Gnome.. Now back on Pop!, and not intending to hop anywhere else for the time being.
I have recently dual-booted my PC with POP OS but while i am using it the screen starts flickering whenever I make a cursor move. This only happens in laptop display but not on any external monitor. Can anyone help me fix this issue.
Pop OS is one of the best distros, if not the best. It's clean, stable and works out of the box. Yearly cycle for updates is ok for professional use, as you want the system to run stable for years.
Looking forward to the cosmic desktop. It's going to be fun to see. It's so rare that I need the latest version of a piece of software (other than my browser). Anything that reduces the gnome of gnome extensions in my life is good.
All I hope for more consistency. I develop apps myself and releasing for Linux feels challenging and it's only getting worse. It was annoying enough 20 years ago when software came needed to support either gnome or KDE. Installation came through either: nstallers with random file extensions to launch the install, RPM packages and Debian packages. Now you've got to deal with countless Desktop environments, a shift away from X11, and more package managers and stores than one could count. As much luck as I wish pop OS, I feel that it would have been better to add the features into an existing Desktop environment than spinning up their own.
I love your anti-clickbait title and intro. _“Is this fine, or are things starting to fall apart for System76? It’s fine.”_ lol, love it, you should double down battling clickbait with this kind of funny anti-clickbait.
Thanks for the video, Veronica. I haven't been keeping up with this story, so your report is very helpful. I'm pretty happy with Flatpak EXCEPT when I am using an IDE and need to use a language that isn't included in the Flatpak. For instance, the Geany Flatpak can't compile/build/run anything but Python. IntelliJ is OK because "approved" languages can be brought in through the IDE itself. I really hope that Flatpak IDEs get the ability to bring in compilers and interpreters in via Toolbox, Distrobox, or even a local package. GNOME Builder can do this already, but I find it hard to use for what I'm doing, which isn't (yet) building GNOME software.
I don't mind the new Ubuntu Logo.. It kind of looks like the old pictures on the CD's "People looking up with their hands locked on each other's shoulders. In that image the people are more closer together, So I guess the new logo represents a closer knit community.
I’m totally fine with them skipping release cycles to accelerate rollout of the Rust version of Cosmic. I’m really looking forward to that and will probably replace Gnome with it on my other distros.
I'm not a Pop!_OS user, but I hope it will be smooth sailing for them. It's been increasingly common for people to suggest it as a beginner friendly distro. Because of that, it will affect many people's perceptions on open source operating systems in general if something goes wrong. I trust they'll do well though
