Porcellio laevis Isopod Experiment Update

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Porcellio laevis ‘Dairy Cow’ isopods are one of my favorite pet isopods. Can Porcellio laevis ‘Orange’ Isopods cross with Porcellio laevis ‘Dairy Cow’? In this video, I describe the results so far of my isopod morph breeding experiment. As an Amazon Affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases.
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@robertsivak8887 4 года назад

Maybe separate the experiment into 2 parts in hopes for different results. Try mating the male dairy cows with the female oranges, and vice versa.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Robert Sivak Good idea!!

@snakehogs 4 года назад

Somebody supply this man with wild type porcellio laevis so we can see the results!!!!! Fun video thanks Rus!!!

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Evan Bulcao LOL! That would be awesome! 👍

@HOMELITEMODGUY 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax Lets chat, I have many morphs of laevis including wild from northern ohio.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

HOMELITEMODGUY Yes, let’s! I would be very interested in just about any P. laevis morph I don’t have. You can email me here: www.aquarimax.com/contact/

@GatorDave 4 года назад

Such a fascinating experiment, I’m very curious to see how it unfolds.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Gator Dave me too, although so many have apparently tried and failed...but who knows?

@slavpepe6581 4 года назад

Heck ya, I've been waiting for this video Porcellio Laevis are my favorite

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Slav Pepe I wish I had better news! Definitely an awesome species 👍

@The.Lost.Woods. 4 года назад

i made this experiment since march 2019, I observe the same results, orange are less prolific than dalmatian, but some dalmation of the 3rd generation have orange antenna and legs ! but the body is still classic (even if there is a little bit orange coloration in the background)

@troicadaoas4940 4 года назад

Wow this is so cool. I recently got into isopod-keeping and I’m excited to do experiments like this. Awesome!

@DragonUdo 4 года назад

Well my fingers are certainly crossed because this would be a cool mix (and I have dairy cows currently lol)!

@MoultrieGeek 4 года назад

I would love to have Orange Cows!

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

DragonUdo Wouldn’t it be amazing!?

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Scott H I hope we get there someday! 😊👍

@atreyuprincipalh4043 4 года назад

What a awesome video,I love the love You show toward these animals You so we’ll showcase ,God bless

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Atreyu Principalh Thank you! I am glad my passion is contagious!!

@bunnedwiener 4 года назад

It's always a treat seeing new videos from you every Wednesday and Friday. Keep up the good work sir!

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Brenden Kaminsky Thank you, I will certainly try! 😊👍

@Demdere 3 года назад

I know that I'm late to the party here, but I must say THANK YOU for doing 'projects' like this, and publishing them in great videos online! Subscribed :) I'm excited to see what else you've got!

@ASAPpetinfo 4 года назад

Great video! I’m glad to see an update on this. And thanks for the mentions! I think once my orange laevis reproduce more I will set up a mixed colony of my own to gather more data! This could be a fun little group project.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

EAST COAST POWER CICHLIDS! Awesome! The more data, the better!

@hollyzmijewski2187 2 года назад

Wow this is so awesome I love all this information I'm just getting started with isopods with my 4 year old son

@Aquarimax 2 года назад

I love the fact that isopods often help provide quality time for kids + parents and other family combinations!

@sabinekine2737 4 года назад

There are private companies that will take samples from you and provide a genetic barcode. Genetic barcodes can be (Roughly) used to determine relatedness. It's too complicated for me to get into at 3am, but if you're willing to pay a fee, you could get some of each barcoded and compared. There is what is called the "barcoding gap", which is to say the amount of difference between the two barcodes before you'd consider one a new species or subspecies. I'm a BSc Student doing Wildlife Biology so I can offer some information, but you could also reach out to your local museum and ask if they've got any isopod taxonomists they could recommend cooperate on the project with you.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Serban Kline Great info to start with, I will look into this! Thank you!

@elcastro5000 4 года назад

I'm pretty sure we're talked about this before. I'm surprised you couldn't find more information on this. This is a relatively well documented phenomena. I have tried this and many others and failed. There are two prevailing theories: 1. These are not very closely related. Either different species or subspecies. 2. The "morph" or color that we see is actually a part of a larger more broad sweeping genetic mutation. And that mutation effects a lot of things. Their color is just the only immediately noticable difference for people. But it could play a part in their reproductive organs.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

I was surprised too...only after I posted the previous video did I learn more about this, partly due to your helpful and informative comments. I tend to agree...something strange is going on here. The more I think about it, the more It seems likely they are not closely related enough to interbreed, and therefore they were isolated from different species. A mutation that created a population different enough to be unable to breed seems somewhat less likely, as it would represent a speciation event. Could have happened though. I am just trying to remember that new data can always change a hypothesis. 👍

@ItaTermite 4 года назад

Greetings Heretic nature and Russ, i wish to report my experience with orange x dairy cow: around 5 months ago i put toghether a group of oranges and dairy cows, and as now the colony have indeed produced several wild-type laevis , which are also completely absent from my "pure" dairy cow colony despite the latter being much larger than the former. I don't keep wild-types separately, so that rule out an "invasion" during maintenance, nor i ever seen them where i live. This seems to point that they can indeed interbreed... what do you think about it?

@btdarterschannel112 4 года назад

Really cool video! If I may say so, I especially like that you haven't given up, despite unanticipated results. Thanks, Russ! 😃🐞🐞👍

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

BTDarters Channel Thank you! Sometimes a little perseverance can pay off! 👍

@Andreas-gh6is 4 года назад

If you are looking for genetic distance, you'll want to take a look at "barcode of life". It uses PCR to amplify a small piece of mitochondrial DNA, which is then sequenced and used as a barcode. There are 25 porcellio species with barcodes, and 20 sequenced barcodes from P. laevis specimens. So there is a good chance to put the result of an experiment with the "dairy cows" into context. It's a relatively simple procedure. You could try to approach institutions that do biodiversity research. There are also hobbyist "biohacking" spaces, which could do the amplification...

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Andreas Klostermann Great information! Thanks for sharing!

@hannahfinley1094 Год назад

I am currently working on a similar project for Porcellionides pruinosus. Great info and fingers crossed I see some calico babies!

@Aquarimax Год назад

Porcellionides should be much easier to work with, as all populations in the hobby labeled as P. pruinosus seem to be able to interbreed without difficulty. Good luck!

@Elaine_P_Smith 4 года назад

Awesome Video !!!! You are very knowledgeable concerning these creatures. You would be a good science teacher.

@aixarawr4820 4 года назад

Ever since i got my clean up crew for my terrarium i got sent Dairy cow and orange laevis, this was back in August. They have been sharing the enclosure ever since, for a 2 months i didnt notice much activity, i only got 8 of each. But not long after that there was a sight of a very little isopod baby, and then another one and so on and within a couple of weeks the food i was providing wasnt enough to the point of finding not much the next day, so one night i went spy mode and checked what was going on because while there is light in the room or during the day you rarely see any activity around, but once i set the terrarium up for night cycle BAM hundreds! I didnt see it coming it went from one little one to hundreds literally, i saw both dairy cow mating with dairy cow, orange with orange and after seeing your video i was also excited to see some wild type, but just like you stated, Orange dont seem as prolific as the dairy cow. There is certainly more cows than oranges. And there is no sign of wild types, so Im glad to see this update i was starting to worry about mines failing at their repopulating job hehe. Keep us posted!

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

AixaRawr Will do! Thanks you for sharing your experience as well!

@TheDramacist 2 года назад

I also got no wild type as a result. So I then added wild type to the dairycows (that were offspring from thise mixed with the oranges) and got small calicos and a few rare albino.

@erikiacopelli451 3 года назад

Mark my words...I'm working on and will make the most AWESOME looking morph EVER!!! Sorry tho cuz I'm not saying what I'm using n crossing to get it. Or how long itll be till I get them BUT cause of ur videos I wanted to do this. SO once I do get it n get them to a point that they always have that morph no matter wat. YOU will be the ONLY one getting some of them FIRST AND FOR FREE!!! Its my thanks to u for making the videos that inspired me to do this in the first place.

@Aquarimax 3 года назад

Erik Iacopelli I’m definitely excited to see them when they are ready! That is very kind of you, and I am happy to have helped inspire you!

@TheDramacist 2 года назад

I did this experiment, but by the hundreds. Ultimately the orange line vanished, leaving me with around 1000 dairy cows. A large portion of these have a very orange undertone. BUT I then crossed those resulting dairies with wild type and got some lovely calicos and just a few albino. Edit: also to mention, I noted the overall size of the dairycows has increased. Im unsure if they're carrying orange tropical genes, but it's suspicious the undercolour and size has changed in the last 2.5 yrs

@bluebowser3121 4 года назад

This is a very informative video. It's fascinating and i hope you manage to get them to cross in the future.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Blue Bowser Thank you! For now, at least my fingers are crossed! 🤣👍

@nathanspencer5292 4 года назад

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@ReptileNexus 4 года назад

Picking up some Laevis orange tonight and going to give it a shot.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Reptile Nexus let me know how it turns out! 👍

@ReptileNexus 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax It will be a little while. I only got around 10 and want a colony of them as well. I took 2 adult oranges and out them with several small baby cows. We'll see how this goes. I will keep you updated.

@Helveteshit 4 года назад

@Aquarimax, You should try something that most probably haven't done. That is a Pandora's box. First, get a large random assortment of breeds of Isopods. The more, the better. Second, what is their preferences in temperature and humidity? Take the average. To understand amount of ventilation. - I've found that Isopods are capable of knowing where water is, so maybe adding a water section to do the humidity for you along with good ventilation may be an option. And last step, add everything into the same enclosure. See what kind of random morphs you may happen upon. At this point, you will merely see if you can find new morphs rather than anything else. Depending on how the morph looks, you can then theorize what kind of specie have paired and conduct experiments from that standpoint to verify your theory. The good point of a Pandora's box is that you rapidly diverge the gene pool. Two, you get a quick confirmation on your theories and three, you obtain a far more interesting result in behaviour between them. Not to mention, isopods love sugar. i.imgur.com/av7enMk.png - Example of a set-up. It provides a constant layer of moisture. If you do a larger enclosure, you can use a small water pump to keep the water moving and filtered properly, an hour-three hours a day. Not more needed. Add a bit of duckweed and it will be okay if it gets light.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Helveteshit Interesting concept! One thing that appears to happen with a mis of species is that one eventually outcompetes the other.

@Helveteshit 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax That is why, Pandora's box with as many species as possible. Like male cichlids. If you have too many, you can diffuse the risk of outcompetition. Of course, it can happen which is a risk. But the theory is, with enough breeds and variation. It will still struggle along. Sadly, I live in a country where it is hard to get what ever plant/insect or so, on my own compared to US. So I cannot conduct this type of idle things myself.

@incineroar9933 4 года назад

I have dairy, orange, and wild types in the same enclosure. They've been together for a few months now and all the babies I've seen are cows and oranges. I think they're incompatible and outcompete the wild types.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Incineroar Great information! Not only does it confirm the results I have had, it provides evidence that neither color variety interbreeds with the wild type. 👍🏽

@TheDramacist 2 года назад

Did you notice any calico?

@fabioruiz7334 2 года назад

🇧🇷🤠 Very good exlent vídeo

@mountainhobbit1971 4 года назад

fascinating! thanks Rus!

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Sean Meister Thank you Sean!

@igris6128 4 года назад

I love isopods and your videos!

@SupremeGecko 4 года назад

Hi Rus, about the same time that you did this experiment, I did the same. I'll PM you on FB with my thoughts.

@SonaPod 4 года назад

I confirm that my isopod can scross breed. I have same experience with mine dairy cows and oranges.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Sona Podsednikova you were able to produce F1 wild types by crossing these two morphs?

@SonaPod 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax No, I did not have F1 but they were obviously breeded separately when I received them. I was surprised how they started to crossbreed with no problems. The oranges are bigger with dark stripes on their backs, few albinos occured. Some dairy cows has been loosing their dark spots. To be honest they all breed like crasy. The oranges prosper better in drier environment. Dairy caws love to eat their small once...I started witb 15 pcs altogether last year and now I have hundreds. They are cleaning crew for my achatinas.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Sona Podsednikova Do upyou have any videos of these isopods? I would be curious to see them!

@SonaPod 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax no problem to send it but I do not know your e-mail address... I would also recommended to try some achatinaˇs groups. Some breeders have many years experiences with dairy caws and oranges as the cleaning crew kept togehter. Fc group Snails UK or Giant african land snails...

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Sona Podsednikova you can email me at Aquarimax.com, I would love to see some pictures. Unfortunately Achatina spp. snails are illegal here in the USA.

@everythingcreated4636 4 года назад

I’ll give it a try and let you know 👍🏼

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

EverythingCreated excellent!👍

@taeviansworldofreptiles3828 4 года назад

Fascinating! Those orange dalmation are sick!

@pinasexoticpetshaven8369 3 года назад

hmmmm....got cows and oranges...might try it as well😁

@luckymy1302 3 года назад

Hi i did the same en my out come is dalmation baby but not the clear color the normale have its a little orange with the black spots i can send you some photos if u like ?

@sweatyearth7458 4 года назад

Any thoughts about crossing rubber duckies with other isopods? If they’re are compatible of course. I think it would be rather interesting

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

sweatyearth it is possibile that Rubvver Duckies might be able to hybridize with some of their close Cubaris relatives, but typically, crossing different species is frowned upon in the hobby. Crossing morphs of the same species is generally not an issue. 👍

@broccoligirl9019 3 года назад

I have wild types and orange scaber outside my house

@hangtenboy 3 года назад

Have you tried playing some smooth jazz? Worth a shot!

@Aquarimax 3 года назад

LOL!

@Polenth 4 года назад

In theory, the wild type of Porcellio laevis lives around here. It'll need to wait until the warmer weather, but if I find any I'll try the crossing experiment.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Polenth Blake I will look forward to hearing how it goes!

@johnwoods7004 3 года назад

I'm getting dalmatians just ordered them and I have oranges already il let you know what I come up with

@CoolGobyFish 4 года назад

why didn't you get mix only females of one type with males from the other? that would have been way more effective.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Cool Goby Fish it was extremely easy to get Orange Porcellio scaber to mate with Dalmatian Porcellio scaber without worrying about choosing males and females, so I figured i would try the same method. Part of the reason for that is that Porcellio laevis can mate when they are very tiny, so distinguishing males from females is harder than you might think.

@johnnygalaxy9022 3 года назад

I didn't know isopods were like guppies! 🤨😂

@theaceofcades1628 4 года назад

I have both morphs in 1 of my tanks I will keep an eye on them and see if they mate at some point

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Ace of Cades I will look forward to hearing about it!

@thomasadkins5009 Год назад

So what exactly do people call the dairy cows with orange spots, I have at least one right now and I’m hoping it breeds and makes more but it just came with my new culture of dairy cows. I would also like to just know if other people have them so I could maybe strengthen my line because every time I search orange dairy cow the solid orange morph shows up

@nozii06 4 года назад

Very interesting video. For me it would have been better to isolate only one male dairy cow and one female orange to truly see if it would be possible for them to crossbreed. But I think there is enough experiments out there to prove that they are not compatible for some reason.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

nozii06 Isolating a pair would have been a good idea. I guess I just approached it as I did the Orange Dalmatians...it worked for those, but not so well for these...🤣

@JOHNTNT 3 года назад

I have a colony of dairy cow orange and wild type i just found a baby thats all white with a really orange face

@TheDramacist 2 года назад

Same. When I added wildtype to the dairycowsI had 'mixed' with the oranges, I got albino and calico!

@Andreas-gh6is 4 года назад

How do you tell the sexes apart? I think I would keep pairs in smaller enclosures to make sure I don't miss anything. Also to test both parent strains as male and female parent.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Andreas Klostermann Good suggestion! This would definitely be the most sure method. It is a little more labor intensive, but easier to keep track of. I will probsbly end up doing this at some point.

@crestedconstellations5980 4 года назад

This was SO interesting

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Crested Constellations Thank you! I hope eventually there will be some good news! 👍

@00Hendrik00 4 года назад

Is it possible that the Dairy Cows are actually Oniscus asellus?

@ItaTermite 4 года назад

Hi Russ, not sure how yours are doing now, but i'll report my experience: around 5 months ago i put toghether a group of oranges and dairy cows, and as now the colony have indeed produced several wild-type laevis , which are also completely absent from my "pure" dairy cow colony despite the latter being much larger than the former. I don't keep wild-types separately, so that rule out an "invasion" during maintenance, nor i ever seen them where i live. This seems to point that they can indeed interbreed...

@nickgiosa7873 3 года назад

Have you ever tried breeding Porcellio Hoff to Porcellio Dairy cow to see if you can breed up dairy cow size?

@SirFeatureCreature 4 года назад

I am curious if other P. Laevis morphs can cross. Currently have a small colony of Dairy Cows, Oranges and Milkbacks, with some Whites and Caramels coming soon into my possession.

@nicoledee1320 3 года назад

So many of mine are orange , it seems as if one of my males have an orange morph and hes mating with all my females, now I have orange Morphs in my dairy cows, they are so cute. Do you want some of mine?

@Aquarimax 3 года назад

nicole dee Wow! You have white dairy cows with orange spots instead of gray? I’d love some!

@Tapajara 4 года назад

My question is: Are the people involved in this primarily just wanting to keep these as pets or are they mostly interested in genetics and these animals just being easy to work with?

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Tapajara I think most people are interested in keeping them as pets and/or cleanup crews for other vivarium animals. However, many people are interested in the color morphs as well.

@juliescesar 4 года назад

Genetics aren't easy, but rather interesting!!!!!

@justadudeyeah Год назад

Don't know if you're still reading these comments but i actually had the same idea. I just started putting my dairy cows and oranges together in a ideal environment I can let you know if I get any results

@Aquarimax Год назад

Lately, it seems they have discovered they are actually different species!

@justadudeyeah Год назад

@@Aquarimax oh well. .. i have so many different species of isopods and pillbugs. I shall still try to create hybrids with other species Also awesome to get a reply on a video from three years ago

@hoodulous4799 4 года назад

Cool

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Hoodulous Thanks!

@aidanfordsword6954 4 года назад

so i have a question. would dairy cow isopods and peach isopods mate and make a peach cow morph? or because they are a different species would they just ignore eachother. or would they make hybrid peach cows idk if someone could answer this that would be amazing. Thank you!

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Great question! They are too distantly related, so they could not hybridized. I expect the dairy cows would eventually outcompete the peach A. nasatum.

@aidanfordsword6954 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax thank you! I have one more question so I wanted to get some zebra isopods for my bioactive vivarium would they work in there? Like would they overpopulate inside the vivarium? Because I heard dairy cows breed fast and they could start to overpopulate inside the vivarium

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

AidanFordSword Zebras can work in a bioactive, and will not tend to reproduce as much as dairy cows. 👍

@aidanfordsword6954 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax thanks! You've been a great help!

@PghFlip 4 года назад

How many generations until the orange dalmatians bred true?

@heatherjensen3327 4 года назад

I have oranges from Rys thay were somewhere crossed before I got them. They were all orange but quickly started throwing orange dalmations and now I have a whole separate bonus colony of orange dalmations.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Pittsburgh Flip By the time I got them out of the breeding enclosure, some had already mated with Dalmatians, and I do still find normal Dalmatian ps from time to time.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Heather Jensen yep, there is definitely some Dalmatian blood in my orange colony...It doesn’t show up often, so you must have gotten lucky! 😊👍

@TheMajorstoner7 4 года назад

can you have more then 1kind of isopods in my vivarium. i have a solid colony of dwarf whites but i just bought 10 orange and 10 cows will they all be ok in the same 20g tank ?

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

wayne stoner One of the species will often end up out competing the others, unfortunately.

@karenmcguinness5036 4 года назад

Hiya, I have tropical orange living with native wild types from my Scottish garden & I do believe that they seem to have interbred.... Not sure if this is helpful.... I had been meaning to set up a similar breeding experiment with my Dairy Cows & Tropical Oranges.... Karen x

@arachnidsanonymous 2 года назад

How did this experiment pan out???? Or well is it still going??? Any luck/update?? 👀 👀 ☮️ ❤️

@Aquarimax 2 года назад

It appears that orange will not cross with milkback or dairy cow 🤔

@arachnidsanonymous 2 года назад

@@Aquarimax awww 😢 would've been beautiful!!!

@alisa_shiki 2 года назад

У нас вышли коровы с светлым рыжим оттенком, рыжими лапами и черными точками. Полностью рыжих коров всё еще нет, но они способны спариваться. У меня они жили вместе. Я их разделила по цвету и рыжие рожали обычных коров. Гены коров сильнее и плодятся они быстрее

@Aquarimax 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing! Generally this situation is caused by carotenoids or other natural color enhancers in the food, it is not genetic, which is why you don’t find offspring with the trait.

@4dub802 4 года назад

Is there any other colorations for Armadillidium Maculatum?? The orange calico r beautiful btw!

@heatherjensen3327 4 года назад

I was just looking into this. I saw some yellow striped ones and some called paradox.

@4dub802 4 года назад

@@heatherjensen3327 No way! that's soo cool!

@amandamarie3867 4 года назад

Wonder if dairy cows would reproduce with dalmatians?

@irThumper 4 года назад

Try isolating out some young adult females of both orange and Dairy Cow. Keep them away from males until they have dropped all the litters they may carry from stored sperm, then pair a DC female and Orange male (and visa versa) and keep this pair together but by themselves, not in a colony setting, and see what happens, if anything.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

irThumper That is a great suggestion!

@irThumper 4 года назад

Thanks :) I've been wanting to try this myself, but no time or space, lol. I noticed too that the Dairy Cows breed WAY faster than the oranges-- I received my first DC and orange laevis, of similar age/size, at the same time, along with some scabers and A. macs, and of all my pods the orange laevis were the last to drop mancae. They do seem to run a bit smaller than Dairy Cows as well. As you noted, though, the DCs and oranges have no issues with mating (or attempting to) with each other! I think the method I mentioned will be the only sure fire way to figure out what's going on, because in a colony setting you'll have not just orange and DC pairing, but DC to DC and orange to orange, and then those females will all have stored sperm. Either they can't couple successfully, like everyone is saying, or the color genetics somehow do not cross over, like in scabers, or they cancel each other out. Only having confirmed pairs, and females vacant of stored sperm, eggs, or carrying mancae, are going to really tell the story down the line. Hope you try this, I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens! :D

@Cleeon 4 года назад

How about armadilidium vulgare variant, anyone?

@brandishoogy 4 года назад

Shucks. No orange sickles

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

brandishoogy maybe, just maybe , someday. Even if it is because of a dairy cow that shows up orange because of a mutation! 🤣👍

@brandishoogy 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax I'm crossing my fingers for you.. 👍😃

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

brandishoogy Thank you!! 👍

@psychogat3 4 года назад

Are you still working on those yellow vulgare? I ended up getting rid of all mine after about 2 years of working on them because I started breeding fish again and didn't have space. But I still have 3 or 4 of the best looking ones I kept just too see how they would turn out. I think they are all females. If you're interested I'll send them to you. The ones I started with were wild caught in Louisiana. These last few are probably 4th or 5th generation of only selecting the most yellow individuals and some of them had a little white around the tail end instead of yellow. Theres also one that's a different morph that shows up in my backyard I'm not even sure how to describe it. It's kinda speckled brownish rusty looking but two tone with a more grey skirt.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Matt Mine occasionally produce a really nice specimen...but some seem to lose the patterning as they mature. I am interested in talking with you more about this. Feel free to send me an email 😊👍

@psychogat3 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax I'll try to get some pics of the ones I have left and post them somewhere then email you a link. It probably won't be until Monday or Tuesday when I'm off work though.

@psychogat3 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax I sent you a message on Facebook.

@livevine3351 4 года назад

Sadly they won't cross because they are likely different species or sub species. Dairy cows are a morph from a Spanish/African species but Orange are true laevis, I have wild type P.laevis and "big blues" which are wild type daory cows.

@RighteousxNxBinky Год назад

I have 1 dairy cow and put it with all oranges . We’ll see what happens

@herpdiversity9152 3 года назад

Any success now? A year later.

@Aquarimax 3 года назад

No evidence of success at all, I am afraid.

@herpdiversity9152 3 года назад

@@Aquarimax has any more research been down into exactly why?

@Aquarimax 3 года назад

Not that I have seen...

@roosta9779 4 года назад

I just put my isopods into my scorpion enclosure to make it more bio active. Should I keep feeding them fruits, vegetables, calcium food inside the enclosure. and also what is the best nutritious food for isopods? I have heard that egg shell is very good for them and banana as well. And also is it necessary to have springtails to make it bio active?

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

poopRooster WR springtails help. Generally speaking, they will feed on the leavings of the scorpion, but adding a little calcium couldn’t hurt. I would recommend adding springtails if you can. They are especially good at taking care of mold.

@roosta9779 4 года назад

Aquarimax Pets Thank you! Right now I have a succulent plant growing in there right now, but I think I want to add more. What type of plants do you recommend for an Asian forest scorpion setup? Or to go more abroad what type of plants would do well in a fairly humid environment? I am not a plant expert so I wouldn’t know what types of plants there are.

@roosta9779 4 года назад

Aquarimax Pets should I put in a false bottom in my bio active terrarium for drainage and plant health? And do you use a false bottom or drainage layer for any of your bio active setup soft you animals?

@roosta9779 4 года назад

Aquarimax Pets should I feed my isopods that are in my scorpions terrarium. I must note that they already have food because I mixed in dry leaves(they were decontaminated by boiling) and frog moss and of course substrate. So I’m just wondering if I should feed them inside the enclosure because they already have food such as the leaves and substrate. And another question. Can I use wild caught springtails for my bio active enclosures. I know there is always a risk of harmful organisms and bacteria, but is it optional?

@roosta9779 4 года назад

Aquarimax Pets should I also feed the isopods in my scorpion enclosure? They already have a source of food such as leaves, substrate and plant matter. Another question: can I use wild caught spring tails in my bio active scorpion terrarium? I know there’s a risk of harmful bacteria and organisms but is it optional? And should I use a grow light for my pothos and lemon button fern? Sorry about all the questions, I just don’t want to have something happen to my scorpion.

@CyanideOwl 3 месяца назад

Feed your dairy cows carrots. They wioll be orangey. 🤣

@Aquarimax 3 месяца назад

Yes, many of them seem to take up the carotenoids!

@leevandyke4562 4 года назад

Are there any bright red isopods?

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Lee Van Dyke Armadillidium klugii have very red skirts, and there are some red Cubaris species too. 👍

@Polenth 4 года назад

Androniscus dentiger can be very red, but a warning is that the ones I've seen for sale under that name are clearly not that species. I've not seen anyone selling the real deal. (Still looking locally for some, as they live in the wild around here.)

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Polenth Blake i haven’t kept That species...what region of the world do you live in?

@_Obey_ 4 года назад

I am working on the same experiment! 🤣 I am a real idiot to think that I am the only one with this idea. 😅 My goal was to create Dalmatians with Orange specks or maybe Orange Milkbacks. Sadly, almost all of my Dalmatians died, while the Orange ones are still fine (only minor loss). This led me to assume that the Dalmatians are physically or even genetically weaker than the Orange laevis? Even though the Pandas were bigger and bulkier. I have yet to reach out to my supplier. Does anyone have a similar experience with their Dalmatians? Note that they were kept in the same box of course. Humidity was maybe too high, I still wonder why this would only affect the Dalmatians though.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Cyan Walker interesting...I have found my Dairy Cows to be among the most bulletproof isopods I have...different stock?

@jayso4439 3 года назад

Any updates?

@Aquarimax 3 года назад

Yes, after one year, there was no evidence of any crosses, so I ended the experiment. I am now trying Milkback x Oramge...no success so far either.

@jayso4439 3 года назад

@@Aquarimax aw, orange dairy cows would be so cool. You could have called them Creamsicles

@bugzandfeathers8716 2 года назад

Can the cross breed ones breed again?

@Aquarimax 2 года назад

Apparently they do not cross at all…that was the result of this experiment.

@bugzandfeathers8716 2 года назад

@@Aquarimax it’s because online apparently someone’s dairy cows cross breed and are selling them cheap

@Aquarimax 2 года назад

@@bugzandfeathers8716 what did they breed with?

@bugzandfeathers8716 2 года назад

@@Aquarimax dairy cow and giant orange

@Aquarimax 2 года назад

@@bugzandfeathers8716 I’d love to see a link to that. I have seen some people think they have made hybrids when they have not.

@m14srv 4 года назад

I found this video because I wanted to see if anyone had done it I've put these species together and today I think i saw a orange iso with black spots

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

m14srv that would be very cool indeed! If I understand the way the genetics work, though, the first generation you’d see would look like wild types, and then a few of the next generation would be white with orange spots. If you have orange with black spots, you’ve got something very unique going on. See if you can post a video!

@m14srv 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax full wild setup I'm unaware if there was any wild type in the enclosure along side of the giant orange and cow isopods

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

m14srv ah, i see. What I mean is that if the dairy cows and oranges successfully cross, the first generation of offspring should be double hets for orange and dairy cow, but they would look exactly like wild types. It would take another generation before the orange and dairy cow traits resurfaced.

@m14srv 4 года назад

@@Aquarimax and how long is a generation??

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

m14srv It varies, but probably only a couple of months with this prolific apecies

@your_local_reptile6700 3 года назад

I have dairy cows crossed with giant oranges in my snail enclosure, Also dairy cows will out eat and breed oranges

@Aquarimax 3 года назад

Yes, those dairy cows definitely outnumber the oranges when kept together!

@your_local_reptile6700 3 года назад

@@Aquarimax :D Thanks for the reply also awsome informational videos! keep them coming

@chrisflores21 4 года назад

I been doing it for almost a year and they don’t mAte

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Chris Flores not usually....but I know a plot her isopod breeder who has sent me pictures of F2 wild types...so his appear to be crossing!

@ReptileNexus 4 года назад

Are we sure that Dairy cows or orange are recessive? It could be that one is recessive and one is dominant or codom. Not every genetic trait is recessive.

@Aquarimax 4 года назад

Reptile Nexus I was assuming single-gene recessive because the same traits are recessive in Porcellio laevis, a closely related species, and because most isopod mutations are (not all). It appears there are other factors at work here, though.