This car is just Ooooozing with everything that is great about Porsche. The brushed alminum roll bar is so reminiscent of the original Targa, yet looks totally modern and in synch with this design. It sounds AMAZING!!! It really stirs the senses... Thanks for posting!!!
Excellent vid, watched all the Targa vids now, and this was by far the best mainly because no incessant babble, all sounds and sight, that is all we need.
Man... the design team hit this one out of the park! Keeping it close to the 3.2 carrera targa and making it beautiful... Not an easy task. Just Wow! Usually every new car that's been redesigned, I find a way to nitpick certain things here and there like they should've changed this or the lines doesn't flow with the car etc... This piece is just perfect! True to the original with modern flares. Would not change a thing. This coming from a designer. Good job Porsche design team!
when i was child this was "the" porsche , and I dream it for ever . Now , that i am no more children , i stopped dreaming beause i am sure that i never will have money for buy it ...... what a sad life ! ! !
SuperDigitalMe Don't know if you're in Europe or not, if yes, try to change your revenue location to a country where taxes are less than where you actually live. (like the Fiat did). Also try out professional management consultings to "almost evade" your actual taxes. If you own a factory, try to export in some new markets, Asia, Russia, Azerbaijan ecc. Take this information seriously, cause i'm a marketing manager, so i think I know what i'm talking about.. MAYBE ;)
TheLOL4DUDE Yes i live in europe, in belgium, one of the heaviest taxed country, and very boring too... Where do i have to live then? Is it better in the states?
The Targa (and all Porsche sports cars) looks great. The roof mechanism is a thing of beauty. The only problem with the one they show in the video is the driving experience is greatly diminished by the automatic (PDK). In the mountain roads it would be so much more fun to show him revving the engine and downshifting instead of flipping paddles like a video game.
Eh? The PDK is not an automatic, it's an automated double-clutch gearbox, which means it works basically like a standard manual gearbox, but it pre-selects what it expects to be the gear you're going to want next. Yes, it *can* shift automatically, but you can switch it to manual at any time and those paddles are basically a technical necessity, because this thing can change gears literally in the blink of an eye, so hitting a clutch pedal and pulling a gear lever around would just take too much time for the whole thing to be useful. Have you ever driven a car with a double-clutch gearbox? I have and I don't see how it is supposed to diminish the driving experience - quite the contrary actually!
The PDK is an automatic. I understand what is happening inside, but a car where you pull a lever from "P" and put it in "D" then just mash the gas pedal is an automatic. I care how it feels to drive, not what happens behind the scenes. You can NOT shift yourself like in a traditional manual. You can sequentially change gears with the paddles. Although it's faster to sit back and let the car do it and there's no involvement or fun with paddles so what's the point? If you want to downshift from 7th to 2nd either the car will guess what gear you want to be or you'd have to keep flipping paddles. In the manual you put the car in the gear you want, when you want. I drove several cars with dual clutch automatics and was bored out of my mind after a few minutes. Shifting, especially downshifting a manual car is fun and exciting. Hearing the engine roar as you time the release of the clutch and downshift before a bend is exciting. Sitting there watching the gear indicator change or flipping a paddle is not.
maxpowers3732 How do you think does giving a definition on what an "automatic car" is, say that PDK was an automatic? PDK is a gearbox, not a car and it is automated, not automatic. And if you care so much about how it feels to drive, how could you not realize that PDK can shift gears a lot quicker than any automatic or traditional manual gearbox? And yes: With a PDK you can not shift in the same way as in a traditional manual and I've never claimed you could, but why is telling the gearbox electronically to move its gear-wheels less manual than telling the same thing mechanically. In the end the movement of your gear lever has to be "translated" to movements in the gearbox as well. And: Why do you think PDK was faster when in "automatic mode"? And: PDK is always guessing which gear you're going to want next, automatic or manual mode. And: Why does it seem to be a problem that you "have to keep flipping paddles", while it doesn't seem to a problem to drag some lever all over the place? And: How often do you shift from 7 to 2? And: How many manual gearboxes have got a 7th gear to shift down from? You can not have possibly driven a single car with a "dual clutch automatic", because as I said: double clutch gearboxes today have an added "automatic mode", but aren't automatic at all and if you were so much "bored out of your mind after a few minutes" in those cars, here's a little trick: use the manual mode, instead of lamenting about the gearbox being operated automatically. So, pushing a lever around is exciting, while pulling a paddle somehow isn't. Well, that may well be your opinion and you're surely entitled to it, but it is far from being the universal truth you're trying to make it look like. I for instance could do without letting the engine lose momentum while I'm dragging around that gear lever or waiting for a torque converter to do its job. And what's that noise in the video at e.g. 1:11, 2:33 and 3:29? Is it the engine roaring on shifting down? But that's impossible! It's the fun-destroying PDK!
There are several reviews where conventional automatics shift faster than the dual clutch automatics. As I said, you're not picking the gear, you've either: 1. Just sitting there bored having the car do it for you completely 2. As you said, the car is always "guessing" what gear you should be in, even in manual mode, then you have to flip the paddles to adjust to what you actually want to do. 3. Having to adjust to different "modes", ex normal, sport, sport plus, to affect the gear changes. All you're doing is pulling flappy paddles with no control yourself over the gear change speed. The Porsche 911 and Corvette both have 7 gears, many others have 6. The point is the same. When you're cruising in a high gear on the expressway then want to quickly downshift in the DCT you'd have to keep flicking at the paddle to get the gear, which takes a while and is annoying. In the manual you just put it in the gear you want and get the satisfaction of revving the engine yourself, no guessing required. If you find just hearing the engine rev as the car does the work for you rewarding, just put a car noise mp3 on your phone. What's rewarding is downshifting and revving yourself.
maxpowers3732 Then please name a review where a conventional automatic documentedly shifted quicker than a double clutch non-automatic. I want to see that with my own eyes. As I said: 1. Switch to manual if „auto“ is too boring for you. 2. „you have to flip the paddles to adjust to what you actually want to do“ - or in other words: you have to pick a gear. 3. With your conventional manual you're chosing the „mode“ every single time you change gear. The only difference is, that this „mode“ is in your head, not in a controller. But more importantly: Of course you can't influence gear change speed directly, simply because you're too slow to do so. And why would you want to change gear any slower than possible in a sports car? First of all: in most DCTs you just keep the „down“ paddle pressed and the car changes gear for you, which again is faster than you could do it manually (unless you're intending to ruin your gearbox that is). But even if we ignore this: Obviously, something is terribly wrong with you, when pulling a paddle 5 times takes you longer than decelerating from 7th gear speed to 2nd gear speed in anything other than full breaking. And of course there's guessing required in manual shifting, but again it happens inside your head, which has ruined a number of gearboxes over time. And why are you always on about the rather rare case of shifting down from 7th to 2nd? Are you afraid it could become obvious that for instance accelerating with a gearbox that can change gears in the blink of an eye is much more fun? Or are you just unaware of the fact that the vast majority of gear changes are shifting 1 gear up or down? If you find just hearing the engine rev when the engine doesn't produce any forward movement work for you, than stay beside the road and let the engine rev up and down all day. Now tell me: Why all the arguing? If you don't like PDK, than for God's sake buy your 911 with a manual, I'm not going to stop you and neither is Porsche. What I was pointing out, was that you're presenting your opinion as a universal truth, which it simply isn't and you base this opinion on points that are at least disputable.
I do love how Porsche reverted back to the classic targa style that the air-cooled 911's had (detached roof and emphasized targa roll bar- and the silver stainless steel look from the 1967 model works here) as opposed to the heavy glass roof that slid back on the 993 and later models.Because the glass panel was inside the roof as opposed to comprising the roof,,it was hard to notice it as a targa top rather than just a large sunroof IMO.This one is a lot sexier.Only wish it came in RWD.
1. It better have a stick / manual shift option. 2. That canvas roof is probably to save weight, but they should use aluminum for the roof with body color options.
it will have a manual option.ashame the GT3 does not.the only problem I have with this targa is that it is only available with all-wheel-drive.I would've preferred a RWD option.
jauspac Then you should've known that all 4-wheel drive Porsches can distribute up to 100% power to the rear wheels and during regular driving the rear wheels get 60% power so it drives like a rear wheel drive car, the fronts get some power just for stability. Don't tell me you never saw a 4wd Porsche drifting?
This video was recorded in spain, road record I would say the road between Marbella and Ronda, Nice curves and sunrise. I recommend this experience, done with targa from the 70s
If there will be empty roads like that around my home i'll buy one tomorrow , sadly always there is a van in front of me that makes a lot of smoke so I have to close the windows ...
There is really no other car as perfect as porsche at building sportcars. There are no flaws in the 911 Porsches. Everything is really good, while some other sport cars from notably BMW or Mercedes Benz always have a small flaw which makes the overall car suffer. But Porsche, wow.
911 - There is no substitute - for those who want an engaging experience at the limit of adhesion! Buy one, join PCA, sign up for a track event and learn how to drive them!!
Not everyone wants that kind of power, you can barely ever use it plus there is a porsche hp level that will suite anyone tastes. There are myriad of 500+ hp 911s....
They won't do the Turbo version. Porsche guys say that all turbo's must have the wing on the backside. But they just can't place it on targa because of roof mechanism they used
yeah, i'm sorry - i want a retail product, not something that's aftermarket. i'm sure they did a great job. but i'm also looking forward to the customer service direct from porsche and anything else. i want to buy into the brand. call me soft, but yeah. some porsche-association means the price to me.
It just doesn't compare to the classic early 911 Targa. All you young guys out there, take a look at the styling of a 1972 or 1973 911 Targa. The styling of this new one just doesn't compare.
