Porsche 997.2 Review. Is this the modern 911 sweet spot? 

Really appreciate you letting me take it and drive it mate. Bloody awesome car!

Which lowering springs have you put on the .2 and what size spacers??

Nice one Geoff! Hold onto that 997.2 for sure!

Thanks as always fort the sport. Truly appreciate it! And yep, it's lovely 911 for sure!

Too kind mate. Yep, the perfect daily for you!

Would love to have a drive of the S. Very surprised by the power and torque of the standard Carrera.

Why did you sell it?

Lucky to have one now. Same color and even the same wheels. Great car.

Mark thank you so much for the comment. Really appreciate it. Helps keep the motivation going 🙏🏻

Cheers Donny! Appreciate the comment mate.

Hey Alex thanks so much! Have had a bit of a hiatus over the past few months but yes, I'm always interested in driving and filming new p cars!

What a brilliant way to celebrate your 60th. Hope you have many happy miles!

Hope your porsche is OK. I've been looking it's been tough to choose what model c2 or c4 the reviews mostly say c2 good handling even in wet 700 pound lighter so smidge faster headache

Hey thanks so much! Really appreciate you checking it out!

Thanks so much Allen. Had a ball filming this one and, once I decided on music it felt like it edited itself!

Thanks so much Ari!

Haha. No missing of boats here! There's more to come. And yes, the 997.2 really is a very compelling proposition!

Thanks very much George. Appreciate it!

Thanks my man! Your photos that night still blow my mind!

I hear ya Brian! Would love to find myself a GTS.

Thanks Shawn!

Thanks Michael! Appreciated.

Heya Chris! Glad you liked / recognized all the local scenery. I think a lot of 997 owners can relate to what I found driving this car.

yes this car really is a gem. Looks absolutely stunning in real life. Did my best to capture it and do it justice through the lens.

Hey thanks so much Kaan!

Thanks so much Mark. Spot on too. They really are the ‘everyday supercar’.

lol why do you call the engine a "power plant"?

Impossible to make these cars look bad.

Thanks so much for the comment and the sub!

Thanks Tony! Yeah I tend to agree - this car just ticks so many boxes.

Your car sounds perfect David! I'm in the reverse situation from you. Would love to bring something water cooled back into my garage but can't sacrifice my air cooled car to do it.

@@lastrasp Yes, totally agree. I have owned air cooled 964, 3.2 and 993 in the dim and distant past - all of which I sold at a loss at the time! The 3.2 is a particular regret. Won’t repeat that “mistake” with my 997!

Yeah I reckon there are definitely some additional mods that could be made to this car to sharpen its performance even further. Such a great jumping off point though!

Oh Jay that’s way too kind mate! Thank you 🙏🏻

@@lastrasp Really enjoyed it, mate! Got me thinking too! Hmmm!

Swapped out my 997.2 turbo for a very low miles 991.1 to have the last of the proper sounding engines.

I like the sound of that mate!

Now to find a GTS…

Good luck 😉

Hah! Thanks George!

Hey Sean. Yep, they're a beautiful thing!

Hey Tony. Glad you liked it. Didn’t make it to LuftWasser unfortunately. Looked like a very well run event again.

Oh wow that sounds like the perfect 911!

Hey Laurent. I've seen so much footage of the roads through that region and have to say I'm very envious! I can imagine it'd be a super enjoyable place to live as a car enthusiast. Keep enjoying that C4S 👌🏼

Spacers are 5mm. 👍🏻

Thanks so much for the comment! And there you go - 5mm spacers!

Mate the more of these cars I drive I can tell you they’re all bloody great. First Gen, second Gen, air cooled, water cooled… maybe they improve with each generation but each very much has its own magic.

Hard to argue with that. A C2S with the extra power would be excellent!

Haha. I sometimes think the same thing when I watch reviews from Europe or the US.

That's great to hear! Glad you got something out of it.

Absolutely, now can you make the 997.2s cheaper.🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@stevedelienne7311 haha. If I could,l do that, I’d own one!

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Yep I understand that for sure. Loved the combination of modern refinement and older car agility in this gen 2 car. It’s pretty special.

but the 991.1 has crummy electric steering and it took Porsche a long time to get that right, and its better but still inferior to the 997.2 steering.

Hey alloyed. Thanks for the comment. I haven’t had the pleasure of driving a cab. Reckon it’d be magnificent though!

Haha. Thanks very much!

That’s such a good point!

You hit the nail on the head David! Perfect sized sports car. Now if I could find a well priced 997 GT3…

Oh wow, love a mid 80's Targa! Enjoy that!

Totally agree! And adore the 997 Turbo! Hold onto that one!

@@lastrasp Nah. Turbos are so fast you lose the excitement of the buildup.

Hard to argue with that sentiment. Very hard to argue.

As far as “settling” goes that’s a pretty sweet deal!

@@lastrasp Agreed!!

Good call!

me too. agree completely.

Have never driven that first Gen PDK. Sounds like you’re loving it mate! 👍🏼

I've driven both and there's definitely a leap in the refinement levels. But get a manual and you' be laughing. Even better if you manage to score an S.

Interesting observation. I’ve not driven a .1 S but it’d be an interesting comparison.

Well spotted Paul!

Go on then what is it 😉

Heuer Autavia. The 2019 Reissue 👌🏼

Spot on!

Couldn’t agree more. Things are slowly calming down but when I look at the prices of 997’s three years ago they made sense.

That's an interesting question. Been six months since the 991 but I can say the brakes in that car were exceptional! In this 997.2 the brakes were great in that way that when something is good, you don't notice it. I think the S brakes on my 991 were next level.

Hey Ben. Not sure to be honest. I think it's a 2010. Great news that you've got a C2S on the way! that thing is going to be amazing. Make sure you get a good alignment. My mate who owns this car just had the alignment redone and says it has transformed it, particularly the front end on turn in.

It’s a 2010 👍

All standard. Any strobing is just what happens sometimes with the frame rate and shutter speed when filming those kind of LED lights.

That's the great thing about these cars. When you drive them all, the qualities that you prefer raise to the top and you can determine the 911 that best suits your needs. If the 996 answers that brief for you then it absolutely wins! Enjoy it mate.

Well looks are of course subjective aren't they? I just find the proportions of the 997 so lovely and the enhancements in the Gen II cars just set it off (in my eyes). But yes, like you say, it just satisfies across so many variables.

@@lastrasp I agree. 👍🏻I like the smaller proportions of the 997 vs later models which have gotten too big over time. Like the rear of the 1970s, slant nose, but Im quibbling. The 997 to me is best overall. 😊

I always think the later the better. More likely to be lower k's (generally speaking) and any production issues at the beginning of the generation have been sorted. This is a general thought only though. Ultimately I'd say get the one with the best spec, lower mileage if possible and one without any deferred maintenance.

Haha. That’s funny Andrew.

Hah! Not sure I entirely agree but you're right - the 997 is such a perfectly proportioned car and still feels light and nimble on the road.

It’s the sound feet make when running on the pavement. 😉

It’s funny isn’t it. Style is subjective. I much prefer the tail lights in the second gen car.

Haha that’s quite the wishlist Alex! Could you update the PCM in yours?

Let's wait for the Porsche Classic PCCM for 997!

Ah my mistake! I thought that was out already.

@@lastrasp All the PCMs for this model are junk. So I replaced with a Kenwood radio, rear camera and now I sue Carplay and the wonderul Google maps instead of the awful Sirius ink Porsche gives.

It's definitely a fair point James. I think it depends on what you're wanting from the car and, as you point out, all about personal preference. I think the interior upgrades on the 997.2 make a pretty compelling case.

Thanks for the feedback Ben. I do the best I can filming on my own, juggling work and family. Always trying to make my content better. 👌🏼

Always a good idea to have a PPI from your local porsche specialist or dealer when buying a car of this age for peace of mind.

In the Australian market their values have been steadily climbing and they’re selling at those high prices.

@@lastrasp good on you for translating whatever that was into English.

Can't please everyone 🤷🏼‍♂️. Appreciate you watching just the same.

Fair points. I can say that having driven first and second gen I appreciated the interior upgrades whether superficial or not. The owner of this car has never once said to me he bought it for 'feel' or 'analogue' experience. He just loves driving it and puts plenty of miles on it on rallies and regular weekend drives. Not your flavour? That's okay.

@@lastrasp But what are these interior 'upgrades' you speak of? It's only the panel in centre console with the multimedia and aircon controls. And that's it. Literally everything else in the interior is identical. Almost nothing changed. And I bet if you ask your friend why he bought that 997.2 and not something more modern, what he'll say will boil down to 'feel' and 'analogue' even if he doesn't use those specific words. And I do very much like these cars. I just find it odd that so many owners opt for what they generally view as an old school analogue choice and then compromise the experience with huge fashion wheels.

@@flat6croc Oh mate it's been a while since I made this and I'm not a 997 owner so I can't list the interior features that added up to an upgraded feel. I can simply say I was struck when I drove a 1st gen 997 by the interior feeling more dated than the second gen. Steering wheel on second gen is new too. Anyway, it's just the vibe it had. As for my friend's motivation for buying a 997 I can tell you he's more interested in the modern stuff than chasing an analogue (pick your synonym) experience.

@@lastrasp Fair enough. Or kind of not. A manual 997 is a very odd choice to park that much money if he's more interested in modern stuff! He could buy a much more modern driving experience for the money! And, apologies, I do not mean to rag on your content. You do a very nice job.

@@flat6crocwell when he bought the car, 997’s were a far cheaper proposition compared with 991’s. Anyway really appreciate the comments 👍🏼

Yep, fister exhaust would sound magnificent on this car!