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During the 987 generation of the Boxster, Porsche made a limited edition Spyder variant. When owner Jay came though Park City in his Spyder, he reached out to Paul and Todd to see if they wanted some seat time. We couldn't resist.
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@DasCayman
@DasCayman 3 года назад
I watched this video 2 years ago and promised myself I'd get one...happy that I was able to find one with manual, bucket seats and AC delete. Best car I've ever driven, and one of 3 Porsche sports cars in my garage. A forever classic that I will likely never sell. This is the type of car that you don't just go out and buy... it's the car that you get the privilege and rare opportunity to own a piece of Porsche history. I'll have to make a video about why these are just so amazing... The first time I ever saw one was the day I went to sign the PO on the car and I instantly fell in love. I knew it was a good car, but seeing one in person will make you freak out.
@hankwilliams5622
@hankwilliams5622 2 года назад
You fell in love, but the first time I saw this I laughed. It has no sex appeal or sensuality like an Italian car. I would rather have an Alfa 4C Spider than this any time of the week, which looks like a work of artcompared to this. The Porsche looks like an appliance in comparison. German vs Italian? Not even close in anything- food, fashion, style, women, art or music.
@thedrivebygg
@thedrivebygg 2 года назад
Good choice man, I’ve only sat in one and started it up and I loved it
@riggs1590
@riggs1590 9 месяцев назад
​@hankwilliams5622 I had a 4c. You can only live with it for so long. The dealer network is awful, and parts are scarce so when it goes wrong you'll have a long wait and a huge bill. The 987 spyder is a much better car and so much easier to live with. My 4c was pretty though.
@DasCayman
@DasCayman 9 месяцев назад
I will take the reliability and manual transmission over the 4C any day. No one likes an unreliable car, takes the fun, joy, and peace of mind out of the drive. I will admit that the 4C is a looker, though.@@hankwilliams5622
@HellaRandomVideos
@HellaRandomVideos 4 месяца назад
And now, it has a light weight flywheel! ;)
@flyheli
@flyheli 5 лет назад
best review of the Spyder I've watched... missed the chance to get one 2 years ago and still regret it... prices have not dropped... what a classic!
@terrylessmann2274
@terrylessmann2274 6 месяцев назад
Excellent, concise analysis. I've watched at least a dozen Boxster Spyder vids looking for the right one. Yours is it. Thanks.
@clubracer6
@clubracer6 5 лет назад
Enjoying your TV and now the Podcasts but found you via RU-vid and it’s always enjoyable to see these! here. Great review of a great car! Thank you!
@MatthewGaither
@MatthewGaither 5 лет назад
I had a white 987 Boxster (just a base model) and it had the best steering feel and clutch/shifter feel of any car I have ever owned. Thanks for the review!
@Ersy90
@Ersy90 5 лет назад
why did you switch and what was the exchange car
@aaronming8466
@aaronming8466 5 лет назад
Driven this and a 911 gt3 and I must say this feels equally hardcore, with a drop down top
@billkelley2889
@billkelley2889 5 лет назад
A friend leased one of these in 2011, bought it after the lease and is now approaching 200K miles. Still loves it.
@sherifelsakkaf1458
@sherifelsakkaf1458 5 лет назад
The stock seats are carbon fiber from the GT3 cars. The ones in this video are the optional ones. Apparently lots of the US cars have these because the person ordering them for each agency was of the opinion that Americans will not like seats that are too hard. Of course he had simply not understood what a Boxster Spyder is all about.
@truthseeker2587
@truthseeker2587 5 лет назад
I saw one once in red here in Houston TX back in 2012. It was gorgeous. Looks much better in person and definitely left an impression.
@rdiamond655
@rdiamond655 Год назад
I had the pleasure of driving a Spyder on this years Utah Adventure, what a joy! Such simple and easy, pure speed and confident handling. Smooth as butter.
@perez5249
@perez5249 5 лет назад
I will never get rid of my 08 manual 987.1 CS. I love the old school clicking of the hand brake and feel of hydraulic steering. Oh and that flat 6 wail on WOT through that Borla exhaust...7 years of ownership and It's still special to drive.
@johnnyflyy5873
@johnnyflyy5873 3 года назад
For me this is the best looking Porsche ever -especially in Silver -2011/2012 Boxster Spyder in silver is just perfect
@jonmadden59
@jonmadden59 5 лет назад
I've seen once of these in real life on the street. I had to pull over and take a picture. It was in Snoqualmie WA. Yet to see an R
@dvmartel1
@dvmartel1 4 года назад
These guys nailed it. They are that good. I have one of these sitting in my garage. Luckily the original buyer spec'd the Carbon Fiber seats in alcantara red/black and six piston PCCB. Need to find out more about the "360hp chip"....lol
@Timtimzi
@Timtimzi 4 года назад
i love the rear design... but the roof just throws me off .. despite living in cali. does the manual also come in sport chrono?
@dvmartel1
@dvmartel1 4 года назад
@@Timtimzi Mysix speed has it, but extremely limited. Consists of Sport Mode suspension setting and Traction Control defeat.
@CapnGoof
@CapnGoof 5 лет назад
I have a Type 981 Boxster Spyder that I even drive top-down in below-freezing weather (top and windows down, always)... ... but the 987.2 Spyder is what brought me into Porsche showrooms. Remember, you could get GT2 carbon buckets in the 987.2 Spyders, too! Now if only I could afford getting a 991 Speedster, with its goofy tonneau cover (no roof at all!), center fuel filler, etc.
@Image966
@Image966 5 лет назад
I owned a white one, manual, with carbon seats. Miss it so much, was unbelievably special. The tent they gave that as a top was a pain. Everyone I drove with said it smelled like it had the cats removed and sounded amazing.
@rafaellastracom6411
@rafaellastracom6411 5 лет назад
We all understand the nostalgia certain smells invoke in us as adults. With that in mind, the passion auditory excitation invokes is available to only a very lucky few. These 6 cylinder Porsches will put you squarely in that group.
@coreybiller66
@coreybiller66 5 лет назад
The 987 Boxster Spyder is the best car I’ve ever driven. It’s the perfect blend of old-school mechanical inputs and new-school style and just enough power. Get video, guys! Glad you guys were able to meet up with Jay and Parker!
@sherifelsakkaf1458
@sherifelsakkaf1458 5 лет назад
I think this might be the best pleasure giving car I have ever driven too. I sold my 2005 987 Boxster S to buy the Spyder in 2010. Extraordinary suspension set up. The sports exhaust option was certainly worth the order. I only regret that I did not order it with the ceramic brakes... Lovely Porsche.
@triode1212
@triode1212 5 лет назад
I have one (987 Spyder) too. The Ceramic Brakes are not worth the money. The standard brakes are good enough.
@sherifelsakkaf1458
@sherifelsakkaf1458 5 лет назад
@@triode1212 As I have not tried the ceramic brakes on a Boxster I am not able to judge. But My standard brakes are certainly not enough. I had a chance to drive both the MP4 12C Mclaren with & without ceramic brakes on the Paul Ricard race track in France a couple of years ago. I can saywithout hesitation is that it's literally another car altogether. The ceramic brake car was far superior in so many ways. Apart from the phenominal brake feel and no fade.. The suspension worked so much better and the mecanicall was grip so improved that I just felt we where in a different car all together.
@triode1212
@triode1212 5 лет назад
@@sherifelsakkaf1458 How do brakes make the suspension work so much better and the mechanical grip improved?
@sherifelsakkaf1458
@sherifelsakkaf1458 5 лет назад
@@triode1212 The reduced weight of the ceramic discs is enough to make the un-sprung weight sufficiently less, and this improves the ability of the wheels to stay in contact with the ground, more often time than with the heavier weight of the standard steel discs. The result in better grip especially in uneven/changing surfaces & improves traction because of the same reasons.
@Jon-ug3le
@Jon-ug3le 5 лет назад
Spot on. I own one albeit a PDK version but I love it.
@jeffkuklinski4681
@jeffkuklinski4681 5 лет назад
I am so glad I own one of these. Not for Sale
@mikeyfourbarrel8473
@mikeyfourbarrel8473 5 лет назад
These guys put out the best auto related content anywhere...even as a guy who doesn’t get too excited about Porsches in general, they totally convinced me on this one.
@Trendyflute
@Trendyflute 5 лет назад
One of my absolute favorite Porsches...I was going to say "of the last decade or so", but ya know what? Of all time. The 987/997 generation was peak Porsche; the best combination of modern performance and refinement and usability with that great Porsche feel. The cars that came after this have been "better" on paper, but outside of the low-volume GT2/3/4 cars, they've been better cars for investment bankers and older commuters, not enthusiasts.
@davidmontgomery9401
@davidmontgomery9401 5 лет назад
So I have one of these... a 6 spd red one with the carbon fiber seats. Seriously I have had 7 911's and I will never go back. Ok so the 911's of the same year are faster but for overall fun and driving exhilaration, this is the best! Every Porsche before this Spyder I've viewed as a temporary investment. This was put down roots :-)). Lastly, funny how people are critical of the roof. I on the other hand love it and feel the cars best presentation is with the top on.
@maximo90019
@maximo90019 5 лет назад
Keep the hats and the fun coming. Remember, there's no need to burn what you can't take with you.
@MichaelHarley
@MichaelHarley 5 лет назад
Nice review guys (as usual). I picked up a '12 Boxster Spyder earlier this year and haven't stopped smiling! :-)
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 5 лет назад
0:57 "The design . . . has aged beautifully". Not hard to do when you never update your design.
@bartwickard1770
@bartwickard1770 5 лет назад
I recently bought a 2011 Spyder and cant think of a more desirable automobile. Worth every penny and more. Get one before the prices go through the roof!
@Fizzbomb123
@Fizzbomb123 5 лет назад
Bart Wickard Will this 987 Spyder go up in value more and more?
@steaksaretasty
@steaksaretasty 5 лет назад
Phenomenal car
@automotiveantics
@automotiveantics 5 лет назад
I actually want one of these!
@liammanion2398
@liammanion2398 5 лет назад
Yeah, duh
@shahulusman3372
@shahulusman3372 5 лет назад
true for 99% of people they will get no difference between this and a boxster S..plus you get a power top on the non Spyder... I have a 2011 spyder, tough to gte the top on..especially if you notice its about to rain on a long road trip.. get the spyder only if you do track events
@johnomahoney7755
@johnomahoney7755 5 лет назад
Love a Poursche! Nothing like it. Thanks
@pgtmr2713
@pgtmr2713 5 лет назад
6 cyls. Yay!
@shahulhusman
@shahulhusman 5 лет назад
I had a 2011..was a great car.
@BobTheChainsawMan
@BobTheChainsawMan 5 лет назад
Don't know this is ever going to be "obtainable" for me... but I hope I'll be able to afford one of these someday!
@rafaellastracom6411
@rafaellastracom6411 5 лет назад
Neil Peart drove a 1989 Speedster soo....... that's all I need to want one.
@ArtVandelayOfficial
@ArtVandelayOfficial 5 лет назад
nice clutch slip @ 1:29 lol
@VEDEMRACING99
@VEDEMRACING99 5 лет назад
Looks like a great driving experience!
@762x69
@762x69 5 лет назад
It sounds so good..
@TDS981
@TDS981 4 года назад
Just reviewed one on my channel great car. Needs to be a manual with buckets for sure.
@janbob3386
@janbob3386 5 лет назад
Now that the 718 Spyder is out, I really want one of those. However, at 100K, it is out of reach. I've already owned a Boxster, and did not think I would ever consider one again, but having seen this video and the tuning bump to 360 HP, this might just be it.
@thedrivebygg
@thedrivebygg 2 года назад
Nice video guys, only gripe it should have been longer
@Jaahhhnnnn
@Jaahhhnnnn 5 лет назад
Noooo don't make this video they are already expensive enough
@sonvfave
@sonvfave 5 лет назад
Who did the tune?
@giantman
@giantman 5 лет назад
Sweet Juice!
@AmishNinjaMaster
@AmishNinjaMaster 5 лет назад
Prices will increase10-20% within 30 days after the posting of this video, then be 30% higher (than the posting date prices) by YE 2018 - - 2011-2012 Porsche Boxster Spyder is the next P-Car to reach stratospheric sales prices in the next 12-24 months ... buy one now while you still can!!!
@Fizzbomb123
@Fizzbomb123 5 лет назад
AmishNinjaMaster Is this a true prediction?
@shahulhusman
@shahulhusman 5 лет назад
That's not a stock sound.. What exhaust is on it? Other mods?
@dedelstein
@dedelstein 5 лет назад
Where was this filmed? Great car on fantastic roads.
@exoticworldreview2755
@exoticworldreview2755 2 года назад
Where are they filmed !!!!
@curvetrcalinga
@curvetrcalinga 5 лет назад
The feedback on this model is absolutely amazing. Only if this model was lightened down to 2500 lbs, it will be the best driver’s car.
@bertharris9748
@bertharris9748 Год назад
Buy one and strip it further.
@somniumus
@somniumus 2 года назад
Awesome review! U mentioned it has a power increase to 360hp? What has been done? Thank u!
@hellworm4929
@hellworm4929 Год назад
Did you ever find out what was done?
@lollypop9580
@lollypop9580 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for this video. I cried literally when I saw the first time a Boxster Spyder. THIS is Porsche not this fat, long and overpriced 992.
@stinkintoad
@stinkintoad 4 года назад
I'd like to know where to find one of these. I don't see any on the web for sale.
@kennytam8202
@kennytam8202 5 лет назад
Love the driving dynamics and 50k less than the 981 spider! They don’t make em like this anymore
@prakashdayanandan3176
@prakashdayanandan3176 4 года назад
what chip did they use? fabspeed?
@dylanl9532
@dylanl9532 5 лет назад
dat door handle though
@ShelbyBikeBoy
@ShelbyBikeBoy 3 года назад
“It’s the greatest hits album” 😃😃😃😃
@venom5809
@venom5809 5 лет назад
I still regret not buying one of these, one of the best looking Porsches ever. That top was crap though.
@danielkarna
@danielkarna 4 года назад
You get used to it... that being said I tend to take it out out on days with no rain in the forecast
@sylasesquivel9173
@sylasesquivel9173 2 года назад
Nfs hot pursuit 2010 vibes rn
@jlopez1017d
@jlopez1017d 5 лет назад
How much do these go for?
@rdmustang6606
@rdmustang6606 5 лет назад
2011-2012 weren't the only years for the Spyder. There is a 981 Spyder also which was sold in 2015-2016. There will also be a 2020-2021 version available which may or may not be designated 718.
@limulus61
@limulus61 5 лет назад
The 981 versions of the GT4 and Spyder have the 3.8L engines too!
@MChronicleSword
@MChronicleSword 5 лет назад
That 2020-2021 Spyder better not have a flat-4 turbo in it.... sounds way too much like Subaru to belong in a special edition Porsche
@limulus61
@limulus61 5 лет назад
I agree. I hope the rumors are correct ad it is the 4L.
@Meatwad650
@Meatwad650 5 лет назад
All the “sounds like a Subaru” folks very likely haven’t driven one, but ok.
@MChronicleSword
@MChronicleSword 5 лет назад
I don't have to drive one to hear its engine running, and that engine note reminds me too much of my test drives in the torqueless BRZ
@tmh44
@tmh44 5 лет назад
A 987.2 Spyder has been my dream car since 2011...I can afford one now, but my OCD is holding me back...I just know I'd be too precious with a $60k Boxster...but man, I still want it! Maybe a huge stock market/economic dip will make them a little cheaper, right!? ;) Great video as always!
@mandyhales6207
@mandyhales6207 5 лет назад
tmh44 you can find them for $50k now! :)
@flyingdutchman4you
@flyingdutchman4you 5 лет назад
You mean just like right now?
@tmh44
@tmh44 5 лет назад
Unfortunately not in the spec I want--carbon fiber bucket seats, manual transmission. $50k buys you a higher-mileage PDK car, usually with the luxury seats as shown in this video.
@tmh44
@tmh44 5 лет назад
Send me a link to a low-mileage manual transmission Spyder with carbon bucket seats in white or silver for $50k...I'll wait ;)
@nicholaswoodward8191
@nicholaswoodward8191 5 лет назад
Timing is perfect then😅. Buy it
@FizzyMotors
@FizzyMotors 2 года назад
I couldn't concentrate because I keep thinking the hat will fly away
@5265vic
@5265vic 5 лет назад
Sighted Mission Inn 2017
@jdub_vdub
@jdub_vdub 5 лет назад
I can’t believe your hat stayed on
@Closertotruth2
@Closertotruth2 5 лет назад
I’m lucky enough to own a 2016 Spyder, a 2018 911GTS Cab, and a 2018 GT3. All great cars but the Spyder is my favorite!
@joespittle1
@joespittle1 5 лет назад
All I can think of is the episode of top gear when James reviewed this 😂😂😂😂😂
@provotrout1
@provotrout1 5 лет назад
Cayman/Boxster is the new 911.
@ImBarryScottCSS
@ImBarryScottCSS 5 лет назад
Not a chance, late model 987 S and put the rest into parts, will look, sound and drive better than this. I'm not saying this is bad, just that they are hilariously overpriced compared to the excellent 987's they are based on.
@rust3dsteel
@rust3dsteel 5 лет назад
Tend to agree. They are neat, but the extra 20-30k is far from worth it. 20k -30k is a lot of parts and track days
@sherifelsakkaf1458
@sherifelsakkaf1458 5 лет назад
As I mentioned above, I sold my 2005 987 Boxster S to buy the 987 Spyder. The difference in the driving experience is so great I would never have imagine it. I knew it would be better because of the weight loss and diff, but not as good as it turned out to be. In the future these cars will sell for quite big money compared to the same 987 Boxster S of it era. That's because of their small production numbers, beautiful looks and not as apparent, for their small improvements that resulted in an extraordinary sports car.
@sherifelsakkaf1458
@sherifelsakkaf1458 5 лет назад
You believe that putting a bunch of aftermarket parts on a standard Boxster S will result in a better and less expensive package than the Boxster Spyder? I don't know how much time the team of engineers who developed the Boxster Spyder took to do, but i'm absolutely sure they had greater resources & took far more time to develop the entire coherent package than any of the aftermarket parts manufacturers. Lots & lots of testing is the key to a well developed package. Not a bunch of different aftermarket parts made by different manufacturers/artisans bolted on a car without coherence.
@arod2051
@arod2051 4 года назад
@2:30 you mentioned this was chip tuned to go from 320HP to 360HP. Can you reference the tuner?
@danielkarna
@danielkarna 4 года назад
I'd like to know too!
@RobertLeBlancPhoto
@RobertLeBlancPhoto 5 лет назад
Aren’t all Boxters Spyders?
@Mmgc4706
@Mmgc4706 5 лет назад
yes, all boxters are spyders, but not all boxsters are boxster spyder
@MichaelLee-ow4bq
@MichaelLee-ow4bq 5 лет назад
Absolute classic. They don’t make cars like this anymore
@MagicAyrtonforever
@MagicAyrtonforever 5 лет назад
The seats are sports plus seats, not stock and screw the 981. 987.2 all day everyday.
@AJTalks
@AJTalks 5 лет назад
I thought the Boxster Spyder had the 3.8 from the 911 and costed $100k even today?
@BiagioBaller
@BiagioBaller 5 лет назад
Different generations
@ZDY66666
@ZDY66666 5 лет назад
Such a short video!
@SloanZurnToto
@SloanZurnToto 5 лет назад
Hey, is that Indiana Jones???? I'll take the Cayman GT4 any day.
@grabir01
@grabir01 5 лет назад
See if you can get a new Tesla Roadster to test drive. That is what I want to see. Big time !!
@phattyhales
@phattyhales 5 лет назад
grabir01 considering it's just a prototype that isn't going to happen any time soon.
@SenszR
@SenszR 5 лет назад
You'll be waiting a long time.
@maxxweber4336
@maxxweber4336 5 лет назад
Did you staple that hat to your head?
@FunkingPrink
@FunkingPrink 5 лет назад
These are both rare and expensive... What part of that makes them attainable?
@SenszR
@SenszR 5 лет назад
Not that expensive
@SenszR
@SenszR 5 лет назад
@@d.h.9995 it's a great car, rare and will be a classic it's worth the money
@justaddafan
@justaddafan 5 лет назад
The 550 was far from entry level at the time.
@joespittle1
@joespittle1 5 лет назад
Cayman GTS replacement????
@bubba88188
@bubba88188 3 года назад
"Graduate" to a 911? Come on, 911 has the engine in the wrong place.
@thedudeabides1443
@thedudeabides1443 4 года назад
The main thing holding me back from buying one of those is the top-it’s an absolute PITA to deal with. The 981 top is much better.
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 5 лет назад
Porsche, you hear that? That's what an engine should sound like.... Learn from your mistake with the 718 generation.
@rembo183
@rembo183 3 года назад
Try and find one that’s affordable ...impossible ... so buy a Miata- light and nimble feel, plus it’s much more affordable to live with!
@TheBobes
@TheBobes 5 лет назад
Steering wheel with no buttons. Oh my God.. YES! I wanna drive the car, not the fuckin radio.
@rob11s
@rob11s 5 лет назад
Burn the hat.
@monstersemmel
@monstersemmel 5 лет назад
Robertas that hat works with a linen suit - not with cargo shorts and a t-Shirt...
@trevor756
@trevor756 5 лет назад
It's not for style, it's for sun protection. Give the guy a break!
@cedric182
@cedric182 5 лет назад
You jelly?
@natenolastname9456
@natenolastname9456 5 лет назад
Eh i dont mind the hat too much now... of he had one of those weird painter hats that are flat i see old people wearing I'd be a little peeved
@scottmaxwell1927
@scottmaxwell1927 4 года назад
@@trevor756 it looks like shit.
@Jorge_Magallon
@Jorge_Magallon 5 лет назад
I’ve never seen so many likes without a dislike.
@pepipvv
@pepipvv 5 лет назад
I like that hat.
@johnyacoub69
@johnyacoub69 5 лет назад
guys - it has 320hp, NOT 360. the second generation Spyder has 375.
@hhhpsmlh
@hhhpsmlh 5 лет назад
I had a 987 Spyder for a few months... Great car Beautiful to look at especially from the rear... I changed it for A BMW 1 M coupe... It was the right decision.. The little BMW trumps it..
@raullasvegas
@raullasvegas 5 лет назад
Attainable? These are twice the price of a similar Boxster
@Ryansrangereport
@Ryansrangereport 6 месяцев назад
And now they are $90k lol
@happypappy7309
@happypappy7309 5 лет назад
Makes your own out your normal 987.2 3.4 manual Aluminium or carbon Doors bonnet boot "trunk" Take out all aircon pump rads Set of light weight alloys Take out electric motor for roof you can lift them up and down manually Fit a limited slip diff Take off speedo covers Take off door handles fit some string "optional" lol Take passenger front seat out , still room for the dog :-) Fit bilstein B16 coilovers lower 20mm Gt3 82 mm throttle and plenum Fully decated race system and headers K&N Then get it on rollers for a bespoke remap And with your change get your self a fully loaded second hand 3.4 pdk with bose air con for your Dailey drive Simples
@utubejoe11
@utubejoe11 5 лет назад
"Graduate" to a 911? The 911 is a downgrade in everything except power, and the later 987s and certainly the 981s have enough to be great road cars - far better than what has become a lumbering GT in the 991.
@gigi9467
@gigi9467 5 лет назад
cheap to buy, expensive to maintain and own. also yes unreliable.compared.to a s2k or miata.
@DaxXx988
@DaxXx988 5 лет назад
Terrible rear lights
@JETWAKE
@JETWAKE 5 лет назад
I would never want a Porsche with the most ridiculous top ever made. It is totally unacceptable to me. Who buys a Porsche with a plastic rear window? It still amazes me how people will buy anything. I love Porsche and wonder how they sell cars with engines that fail knowing that the input shaft bearing was a potential for a catastrophic meltdown. The best Boxster and Cayman models are 2011 and 2012.
@triode1212
@triode1212 5 лет назад
The 987.2 or Gen 2 Cayman/Boxsters, and the Spyder reviewed above do not have an Intermediate Shaft Bearing or IMS. They sport the same DFI engines as the later 981s. So they will never suffer an IMS failure because they don't have one to fail. As for the tent as a roof, it is horses for courses. You don't have to put it down as it lets you hear the engine and the visceral sensations of driving even with it up.
@joespittle1
@joespittle1 5 лет назад
To much white. White rollover bars are ugly
@rudytaneloruxy9491
@rudytaneloruxy9491 5 лет назад
Porsche holds back sais it all. Expensiive cars to buy, maintain, repair and they make you pay for red seat belts and millions of options and then hold stuff back they have availible because they can sell you a badge and a clock package that gives you what you shoukd already be getting plus less that they hold back. Highest markuo of any car mfg who admits they could sell more cars but prefer to gouge status whores to keep exclusivity over fair pricing . Great cars that are overpriced to buy , service ,maintain and repair. But if your a Dentist or somebody who needs to loom rich and a bit cool but italian cars make you feel douchey .. Porsche...When you want to prove you can pay extra for something good just because you can. Porsche the performance value proposition with severly diminishising returns. Porsche cheap at half the price.
@andrevaden1742
@andrevaden1742 5 лет назад
First thing, elementary : remove your sunglass before talking to public.
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