Porsche Cayman vs. Lotus Evora  

Salesmen aren't known for telling the truth now are they!

MagicAyrtonforever I’ve driven both and agree. 😊

Optional LSD

usernamefromhell Could it be the lack of Sports Chrono package?

usernamefromhell I think the diff is busted, or it lacked of it

usernamefromhell He drove it wrong

You took the words out of my mouth.

+usernamefromhell It is not Tiff (F1 driver) to be sure and it is not the lack of the chrono package. Ive driven both the S and the base in three seasons in all condtions under many cambers and have never seen or felt a Cayman act that way. I have never seen/felt any Porsche act that way. The only thing I can come up with off the top of my head with is severly manipulated tire pressures with all traction controls turned off.

I'm sure build quality and overal usability on public roads (boot, comfort, long drives) will go to the Cayman,

@@stijnvandamme76 Who fu...ing cares about that??

tiff is English and porsche is German. it's funny he doesn't complain so much about understeer in a 911 carrera which has more understeer than the cayman

+John Madden if you watch the video you can clearly see the car is understeering much earlier and much more than it should

Cheaper suspension

+bud ley I think you are!!! it's got nothing to do with it, besides having 2 round light clusters.

+Ricardo Carvalho He is probably of the same group that claims the new Corvette has Camaro tail lights, lol...

+bud ley You mean the 4c looks like the Evora. The Lotus appeared 4 years before the Alfa.

BudleyBailey yes. Yes you are.

Finally someone smart and knows suspension dynamics!

I feel the same way. Looked like he was sandbagging the Cayman and really going for it in the Lotus. Found it particularly weird that he took the hairpin in first gear…I wouldn’t do that unless I was trying to get around it going about 6 mph 😅 probably cost himself a half second in lap time there alone

Especially due to the fact, that the Evora was 10K more expensive...

+Dominik MJ (opinionated alchemist) I agree, very odd, especially when you take in mind that Tiff is a porsche fan.

Maybe he is a 911 fan...?

+Dominik MJ (opinionated alchemist) Tiff is definitely a Porsche fan, he's driven them in many races including 5 times in the Le Mans 24h, finishing 3rd in 1990.

andy elliott Yeah - I know, that he usually raves about Porsche. Still it is very strange here. The Cayman is an amazing car. And even the choice of cars seem very dubious.

So you are saying Porsche does this intentionally to the base model and puts it on sale? Maybe the base model is for wannabes who want to show off and the S is for people who can actually drive sports cars on the limit.

Different strokes for different folks, not everyone wants to drive balls to the wall. Some people enjoy a nice spirited drive onto the on ramp and enjoy the feel of the tight steering. Life is about understanding nuances Porsche does this very well.

because going fast in a straight line is boring and the 2016 wrx sti gets bad reviews for handling, steering feel, engine note, driving position, gear change and a modern day hot hatch does everything better?

Maybe people actually care about the engine sound, the look and feel of the car, rather then just obses over 0-60 times.. I've driven to Stuttgart in my 13 year old Cayman, 240kph + for over an hour.. Another guy in our group with his 2 year old 450 bhp chipped AMG had to let go because it overheated and thew a CEL. Another time I drive 400 km to Le Mans, tracked it all day.. took off my helmet and drove back home without missing a beat. Another time it was lightly snowing in Spa.. Eau Rouge at 150 kph.. 4 wheel drift going up Raidillion These cars are just great all rounders.. Rain or Shine.. doesn't matter.. You are welcome to try all those things in your WRX, but in my experience, them AWD Subies generally don't follow me when it's getting a bit damp out there.. And I know my interior is much nicer to look at and sit in.

Same thing. 'Horizontally opposed' is another way of saying it

You sound like a stuck up american who only reads spread sheets to determine which is a better car.. 5.8 seconds is a fast car. Obviously something with 520 hp will beat it dont be foolish

Augusto Ortiz As you can see I wrote WAGON. Have you seen any american drive a wagon? And I'm swedish, not american.. What I meant was that 0-100 kph in around 6 seconds isn't that really fast for a sports car. Sure the cayman handles really good but not many goes to a track with their cars, thus leading to not needing such a good handling car. You can get any car with a V6 with 250-300 horsepower and you can pretty much get to 100 kph in 6 seconds. And don't be an ignorant fool now yourself calling me an american without even knowing it...

xBuzz996 As a Cayman 2.9 owner, I can attest Porsche laughably understate their specs. Granted I have a PDK, but I hit 60 in 4.8. And if you think a Cayman, any Cayman, is barely a sports car, you don't know the meaning of a sports car...it's not all speed bud

Rishi Arya I do know the meaning of sports car and yes I do know the Cayman handles really well. But when a regular car can beat a sports car in a straight line, doesn't that make you think a second time? Are you saying the PDK shreds off a complete second versus the manual one?

+xBuzz996 +xBuzz996 first of all, i did not call you american, i said that you SOUND like one. It obviously does not matter if it is a WAGON o a sedan or even a tricycle. A 500hp car will have no trouble beating a 275hp one.

Grzegorz Staniewicz Apparently all racing drivers [should] love understeering and driving off-track.

Jack Naylor But your Fiesta will never handle as nice as the Cayman. IDIOT.....

raylo993 you might be surprised, the Cayman has always been pretty handicapped to keep it below the 911.

+raylo993 not in this video

15 year old 996 would kick a new caymans ass

Ben Chesterman hell it would

I just lost some respect for Tiff...

I lost all of it when I met him, he spoke to my Mrs but not me. He's a knob.