The electrified Porsche Macan plowed through the miles on our drive! Which is even more impressive when you consider we were driving the performance version (performance we can't tell you about yet). Yet, we are wondering, what's more important to you EV shoppers out there - range or performance? Let us know in the comments below!
I want a car that is fun to drive with nice handling and acceleration but if I had to pick I'd take a super quiet interior with extra range all the time.
Did you experience a boomy interior? In your review back in the days of the ID4 from Volkswagen you mentioned that the interior was not at all boomy like in other EVs. The Audi e-Tron is one of the worst one regarding boomy interior. So i hope, was the Q6 will be basically the same car, that the interior is not boomy at all.
Great to hear and very impressed with the range. My Tesla Y Performance, stated range 306, doesn't even come close to it. Can't wait to see the full review.....
Because your MY's battery capacity is 82 kWh with 78 usable vs. this Macan's 100 KWh & maybe 90-95 usable. So doing quick estimates the test stated ~ 300 miles using about 88 of the 90 kWh battery pack on the Macan gives you an efficiency of 3.4. vs. if you use the same Macan efficiency applied to the MYP u'd get 78 x 3.4 = 265 miles max range (212 miles if u did the Elon recommended 80% charge) & if u gave the MY the Macan's battery pack of 88, it would get the same 300 miles. Btw - I am getting 3.5 as my efficiency currently in my MYLR. If not obvious, range is better if u carry a bigger battery pack.
Slow-turning wind turbines is not a gauge for wind speed. Those mills have transmissions to gear-down the blade speed while still turning the generator at a fast speed so even with high winds, the blades won’t turn fast.
It's still a gauge. Faster-moving - more wind, slower moving - less wind. That's LITERALLY what a gauge is: a relative scale. Must be sad to correct something and be wrong.
@@leok7193 it seems you don’t understand gears. Think of a ten speed bike. If you are pedaling faster, does that mean you’re going faster? You can pedal like crazy in fist gear and still go slow, yet pedal slowly I’m 10th gear and go faster. This is what I’m saying about the gearing in wind turbines.
5 hours and 300 miles is a lot of driving before needing to stop for 30 minutes to recharge the car and yourself. Anyone who wants to only stop for a 5 minute gas fill up and head back out for another 5 hours, without using the rest room and/or grabbing a bite to eat is nuts. EVs can work well on road trips for most people.
This car will probably come with Tesla NACS connector so the Tesla Supercharger network will be available to them. Those are very reliable and ubiquitous @@cbatiau2528
5 hrs of driving allows me 2 days of commuting before I need to charge. Some people don’t have the luxury/ options of charging everyday! You know the the 5 hrs and 300 miles of driving doesn’t necessarily mean in 1 day!!
Porsche EVs are amazing because they drive like a Porsche, only with even better acceleration and torque. We're very excited to drive this new Macan soon!
Thank your for your video. One question, do you know how the regen works in this car? When you lift the accelerator pedal does it automatically slow the car, or how hard does it slow, or is it something that you can adjust? Thank you.
Total props to the team at Porsche for their beautiful styling, inside and out. This in the Taycan are just gorgeous! I'm also glad that they resisted the "iPad on the dashboard" look which is so popular now. The Macan is my dream car. Sigh.
Awesome, perfect weather, no wind. Now, let's see how far it goes at 15 degrees, in winter with a 20 MPH head wind with full family loaded with luggage. I say this as a current 2023 Macan owner.
Some of the earlier reviews of this car mentioned 400 miles range. Currently it seems like only the Lucid cars have been able to improve range numbers.
Not everyone will be driving it in winter. I am in Cali - a lot of Porsche buyers here - and that is not a concern. If one has to deal with Winter conditions, then Tesla is the only option due to high availability of a Super Charger network. In that case, even higher energy consumption is not that bad.
@@cobrachannel100 California is the exception not the rule when it comes to standards. The people that live where the weather gets bad can not afford to have a car they can't rely on when the weather is bad. Ask Chicago how evs worked out this year during massive cold streaks having cars die at the airport leaving people stranded. Infra is spotty even for Teslas all across the US except some spots on the coastal states.
@@troyrambo6804 Sorry, but Tesla supercharger is not spotty anywhere in the US. Even in Cali, Nevada, Utah, or Arizona deserts, especially along major interstates, you will find plenty of chargers. On other points I agree to a degree. I have a buddy of mine driving a Tesla in Colorado. Yes, the range drops down significantly in winter, and it takes some planning heading to hit the slopes and staying overnight during cold nights, but not impossible. Superchargers help and during a night time, he plugs it in to 120V outlet to get some juice. Otherwise, people shouldnt leave electric cars outside, not plugged in, in the cold, for long periods of time. Those of us that have owned them for like 5 years or longer, dont make those mistakes. Besides, why would I drive to an airport in this day and age as opposed to taking a ride share? Either way, I am not seeing too much of a problem in 99% of the cases. Yes, I admit, it could be headaches for some people, some of the time; however, I dont think that outweighs all the positives.
@@Rumblingbelly yes, it will be priced like a Porsche, base Macan EV probably will start at $70K...so figure $85K with a few typical options...the performance version will break $100K optioned.
@@Rumblingbelly With options at checkout it would set me back in total around €129,000 (Macan 4 model). Best HUD in the business, best handling SUV, with arguably the best suspension with the new adaptive air suspension Porsche created. I added the rear steering. It's worth mention the Macan was rated after the WhatCar's 16,000 person car owner survey as the number one most reliable compact SUV. I'm assuming the electric version will have decent reliability too. Note: overall the Porsche brand wasn't top of the list because the Boxter/Caymen rated so poorly for reliability it dragged the brand down. It's a Porsche. It's in a different class to Model Y in terms of luxury. I added "truffle brown" REAL leather everywhere, even on the doors, and massage seats, air suspension, genital blue metallic paint, and more. Honestly, the car is stunning. Someday.
1:21 I've actually been wondering about that. are the highway and city loops done in alternating between the two sections of city and highway done back to back, and how long are the sections? the reason I ask is because I'm curious to know if maybe the test inadvertently creates "hill and valleys" where the range might look a little longer or shorter based on what section of the test it's doing at the time. with the city section giving "a little bit" of extra range thanks to it being slower (and less energy intensive) when it's using it's last few miles of range and the high way section maybe subtracting a few thanks to the car being in a situation where it using a lot of energy. now granted, depending upon the section length, this might not have an appreciable difference, but it is a question I want to ask.
It's great miles. It is funny however that in twenty years time people's kids will be laughing at the idea of a car that gets less than 600 miles of range.
Nothing wrong with different methods of comparisons. I like the way Kyle does it for what it's worth, but this is also more realistic as normal people don't drive their cars that close to the wire.
To be fair, highway range is what actually matters and what any range test should use for EVs. No one cares how far it goes in city driving because you can easily charge up at the end of the day. A highway test is a road trip where someone really cares how far the car can go before needing to stop and refuel. With the cost of fuel so low, and EVs so efficient at low speeds, I'd say that test was good for gas cars, and not as relevant for EVs.
That is true. However, in reality, how many people take long trips and how often? Majority of us - based on data - will be driving our cars in town/city conditions 99% of the time. I am willing to bet, most of us will think about driving some long trip once a year, if that. When that time comes, then one can still take that trip by properly planning it. I am not sure people truly need to worry about that when they only take those trips once a year or once in two years on average. I do understand, though, that some people could be needing to drive long distance every day. However, averages are more important and I am pretty sure car makers look at that vs a need for like 1% of people.
No need to. It is actually stupid to do in an EV vehicle. Conceptually, fundamentally, EVs are supposed to (and are) way less complicated with low maintenance and operating costs. Once a transmission is added, that adds complexity, reliability issues, extra cost, extra maintenance, and weight. Benefits are also marginal as proved by Tesla S Plaid/Long Range.
It has been my experience, that EVs get more range in the city anyway. You are going slower (more efficient), waste less energy on acceleration, and get some energy back in regenerative breaking (although I hear Porsche does not have that). Long drives at speed are drain more power (generally),
It's pretty. I wasn't a fan of prior Macan designs. Matt Watson from CarWow prefers the less wavy rear break light design on prior Macans. I personally think he's mad for coming to that conclusion. The new model to me is more minimal and has a much sleeker and more successful design in comparison.
It uses CCS, which is compatible with NACS, but I don't think it has the NACS port, so you'll need an adapter. For now, at least. What bothers me just as at that is the idea of a car this expensive having just one wireless charing port. We all have phones, and USB-C cables are fussy when you don't need to use your phone.
@Edmunds should consider posting results of both style ranges tests. When you make multiple charging highway trips the city/hwy mixed range results is as helpful as the EPA range being displayed at 100% SOC. The ability to have accurate range on the dash based on the recent past and current kW/mile is important as was demonstrated before the turn around. Integrating elevation changes and weather events via the onboard calculations would be a bonus. However knowing this 70 range test helps buyers gauge how an EV stacks up against one another for these types of trips with consistent average highway consumption rates on a loop yielding no net elevation change and neutralized wind effect with average fair weather temperatures. No one reschedules trips to travel only in these conditions but for a buying comparison and expected range estimates while shopping for an EV, it beats the mixed city/hwy results that are good for a typical daily commute comparison. Nice report given the limitations. 🤐🤭6:25
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did Porsche say why they chose not to include a 2 speed transmission ? Thats an issue i have with EVs, their range drops massively at higher highway speeds and a 2 speed transmission would certainly make it more efficient.
Not necessarily. On the Taycan the 2 speed is mainly because they wanted to combine acceleration off the line with a high top speed. Some similar cars get the same efficiency or better than the Taycan without the 2 speed transmission
@@7ludiIm well aware how a transmission works and what it does for acceleration. As the Taycan was a car geared towards sportiness, efficiency wasn't the main goal of the 2 speed however its a very welcomed effect that comes with it. Necessarily with a longer translated speed comes more efficiency. If you put a 2nd longer gear into every single EV on the market with a single speed transmission it would absolutely get more efficient at higher speeds, which is why im asking why Porsche didn't hold onto its concept of a 2 speed gearbox making the Macan even more efficient at highway speeds. Mercedes is introducing a 2 speed into their upcoming electric CLA by the end of 2024 for nothing but efficiency.
~300miles of range with 3 people at 70mph, that isn't bad. It is kind of ugly though. Personally I would still need more range in order to comfortably do trips from Phoenix to Tucson and back and would not want to have to charge for that trip since I do it frequently (like ~400miles+). I am sure it will cost around $90k... At least it should come with a NACS port standard, since it will be a 2025 model
I know ur a tesla nerd in every comment section. The fact ur calling THIS ugly is hilarious when u like teslas. The model egg Y and the Mini Van X look absolutely outdated and atrocious compared to this. Keep in mind it's wrapped in camo so u can't see any lines. The head lights alone tho put it LEAGUES above any tesla. They are dope af
@@cbatiau2528 for some reason seems its a trend with evs… or maybe a coupeification of the macan? One thing is sure wind noise will be a regular on this party :)
It's looks close to the combustion macan which is in production since 2014, the model x is in production since 2015. So which is looks which? Just saying.😉
@@laszlo610 Which means that's just playing it safe.. In the Automotive industry, they want the prospects/respective shopper/buyer, to think of the EV Macan, whenever they think of Tesla. Smart, but from this lens, it just means, they're playing it safe. BE ORIGINAL, folks. 😁
@alexnutcasio936 Production start Macan February 2014 Production start Model x September 2015 This info I have. However I think model x and macan does not looks similar but model y, which is well later model.
300 miles kind of disappointing I thought they were claiming like 430? Most of my miles are drives of 200 miles round trip and at 85mph and winter temps/winter tires 300 miles of range doesn’t really cut it. Not touching another EV until we have ranges in the 400s, the Taycan looks like pure sex but I need to be absolutely sold before I take another bath of depreciation on an EV
But mich bigger battery, which custom also much more comparing to others like ev6 and model y. Not super impressed... It's more or less same performance. Still more interested in sportiness, curves and steering feeling...
The word "Macan" actually translates to "tiger" in Indonesian. And since Porsche makes it, and their own people pronounce it like Ma-khan, I'd say he's pronouncing the name correctly.
I think it look a lot like my Genesis GV 60 also the range is about the same I get over 300 miles in summer weather , the Porsche Macan I think is a winner .
A bit, maybe. But I do also think it is more Genesis GV60 in shape. That's not a bad thing; the GV60 looks way better than the Model Y, as does pretty much every other vehicle in this segment.
@@thespectralsorrows I mean the new version, not the older Macan. I opted for an m340i instead /shrug but I wpuld of waited had they come out with a new new macan gas version. I think they plan to discontinue gas versions of the macan in 2025
Let us see what the numbers would be in the real-world speed of 80mph. Why do these reviewers not want to see the truth ? Who drives 70? Is it because the range drops drastically?
Speed limit in most states is 55, some 65 on Interstates, why would they promote doing 15-25 mph over the speed limit? You think an ICE car doesn't lose fuel economy at 80 mph too?
I like this car but cant find a sweet point between price and performance. I think, the Turbo S, or whatever version, that I would be interested in, is way overpriced IMHO, especially in comparison to something like MYP. If, regular Macan, then performance is disappointing and it will still cost you what $80K? In short, I like it a lot, but at the price point, I dont think I am getting a good balance of price, performance, and range. For $80K, I would like something in the MYP ballpark when it comes to range and performance. In short, I am giving $30K premium to the Porsche because of the better build quality and ride quality. But, Tesla wins on price, straight line performance, charging infrastructure, and gives similar range. Tough to justify paying $30K more for a vehicle in the same class that doesnt beat it in a lot of categories.
So I was really keen in a Macan until was told that Macan are more of a ladies car… stigma is pretty strong with this one… now rocking in a 911 and never looked back…
it looks a little more bulky than the current one which, for a crossover-ish SUV, looked kind of sleek. I also think the test should have been done at 75 mph, not 70. No one drives at 70.
Until they open themselves up to the Tesla charging network…it isn’t a viable option for long road trips. Not trying to pull up to broken electricity America stations.
70 mph range test with a average speed of 60 XD. EVS are easy to get range anyway 100Kwh pack means it will get 300 miles if it's draw is similar to others on the class that is the running average
I think there is a false statement, your mileage test is based on 70 mph cruising on the highway. If you use up all the performance, the battery won’t last 305 miles. The power you used is calculated by vehicle weight and speed, cruising means barely has any acceleration.
