Possessor: UNCUT (Dead Meat Podcast  

i hate how the views go waaaaaay down when its not a kill count, dead meat podcasts are lit

Can we talk about the butterfly motif for a second? It's shown in the begging, note that it's red and Vos is talking about how it did and still does make her feel guilty. Throughout the story, we see many elements alluding to symmetry or mirroring, kind of like how both sides of the butterfly do. Then at the end, when Colin's body is bleeding and his blood is converging with Ira's blood, it creates a blood butterfly, and then we're taken to a scene where Vos is describing the butterfly without mentioning any feelings of guilt. It's as if she emerged from this round of possession having gone through a mental metamorphosis. Where she was laying down and the machinery on her being her cacoon and she emerges unburdened by family, empathy, or humanity; she is a fully-formed killing butterfly who can fly freely, so to speak.

I’m still loving Chelsea’s hair growing out.

Random fact, the whole recalibrating your body thing is also a massive thing for astronauts. Not relevant to the film but its cool to think about, literally almost everything about how you feel and move your body is altered (a lot of people actually get sick in their first couple weeks on the ISS), and I'd imagine a whole different body (even on earth) would feel even worse.

Okay so this is off the cuff with little planning, but having watched this movie as an autistic person and a third year psychology student, I can read a lot of autistic themes in the movie. Specifically, the lack of identity Tas feels, the inability to gage what amount of force you need to use (because she's in a different body), the mimicking of other people, and the objects Tas has to remember who she is. If I'm in a situation where I'm the only autistic person, I mimic everyone around me and I use social scripts. It's often seen as like a malicious thing, but it's not. I'm not trying to lie about who I am or anything, it's just that the real me is often unwelcome in allistic environments. So I mimic the body language around me and I have social scripts that I have to practice for specific interactions, and you can see Tas do that in the movie. I also play down my autistic symptoms so if I'm stimming, I can minimise it to smaller movements like messing with my hands rather than just playing the drums on any nearby surface (shout out to high school for essentially brainwashing me into learning how to do this) and like, Tas clearly has to play down who she is to be able to be the person she's possessing. I also mimic people without realising which is down to my hyperempathy. I start speaking in my friends' voices by accident and it's just my way of trying to relate to the people around me. I copy their mannerisms without realising and their phrasings and stuff, and it's just my autistic brain relating to my friends. Luckily, most of my close friends are autistic and/or neurodivergent so they get it. My best friend is autistic and he can never gage how much force he needs to use. So Tas struggling to control Colin's strength is so familiar to me because my best friend does that all the time. When I was younger, I'd often hyperempathise with specific objects I'd always have with me (I still hyperempathise with objects and there's nothing more annoying than not being able to sleep at 4am because your brain latched onto the Titanic and now you're so lonely because God, that shipwreck must be so lonely) and it'd be part of my identity. And a lot of autistic folks do this as adults, and again, you see it in the movie with Tas using like the watch and the butterfly to remember who she is. Also just, lack of identity in general. A lot of us don't get diagnosed or recognised until we're adults so suddenly at like age 19, I have an explanation for everything in my life previously, but now I have to reconceptualise everything about myself because suddenly, I'm not who I thought I was. And like, that comes with trauma and is the trauma part of who I am? And most, if not all autistic folks are traumatised during childhood and like, is that part of who we are? When I take on traits of my friends, does that change my identity? Are my special interests part of my identity? My hyperfixations? And having spoken to a lot of autistic folks (because the majority of my friends are autistic), a lot of us have this issue. And seeing Tas being so uncomfortable and so isolated from her friends and family is just so familiar for me. I know that feeling so intimately because it's what I go through everytime I'm the only autistic person in the room. I'm so aware of it because I feel so empty and so different, and often, if I do tell people that I'm autistic, they then talk down to me and you know, I relate to Tas in wanting to just stab someone when that happens. Because like, I'm still a person, I'm more than my autism, but I'm also not ashamed of it. So like, I guess I can read the movie as an autistic allegory in like, a battle between who you actually are and who you need to be to not stand out as weird in an allistic situation. And you're so exhausted because you live everyday on edge trying to make sure you interact correctly and you act allistic (because that's what most allistic people want, that's what ABA therapy does. It's rare I meet an allistic person who is okay with me being visibly autistic around them) and you're just doing the most at all times, and by the end, you're just empty and you're tired. It doesn't matter what side has won because now you don't have a clue you actually are. And wow, that's very bleak oops lmao

My dad did some armouring work on this movie, this is cool to watch.

The main character sounds like the role she plays in a Black Mirror episode called Crocodile. *It's also brutal and 100% bleak. Synopsis: Architect Mia scrambles to keep a dark secret under wraps, while insurance investigator Shazia harvests people's memories of a nearby accident scene.

geez the symbolism and detail of this movie is what makes it so blood-curdling.

this was one of the best movies i’ve ever seen. brandon cronenberg is definitely a genius just like his dad

This channel and these podcasts in particular have really been a bright spot in a dark year. Thank you James and Chelsea for all the hard work you put into this and just being all around good people!

you keep saying "sinister" and I keep expecting spookyface to show up

Does Little Shop of Horrors qualify as a horror movie ?

This would be perfect for a kill count.

I can tell you that the "porny" parts have definitely been in the European theatrical version. I saw the movie (in the cinema!) at this years (abridged) Fantasy Filmfest here in Germany in September. It was the uncut version.

This was the last movie I saw in an empty theater before everything was shut down. Loved it

Ngl i saw that thumbnail and I said "What demon is using wrapping paper as a means of torture"

Gore porn and actual porn?! I'm all in. Haha

When I came back from my first deployment, I was standing in Wal-Mart with a full cart of food, trying to find Gatorade of all things, and had a "moment". I went early but it was starting to be later so it was getting flooded with people, it was a payday so it was way busier than usual, and I just, IDK, mentally disassociated? I forgot where I was and what I was doing. I had to call my friend and tell her what was happening because I KNEW something was wrong but I couldn't identify what. She had to basically tell me to take my cart to checkout, etc, and was on the phone with me until I put my shit in the car. The way that she portrays the detachment with her friends/family, rehearsing lines... it's REALLY real.

All the orange in the background and border makes it look like they're in the James and the Giant Peach peach.

The day after I saw Possessor, I went to twitter and recommended this. I'm happy y'all watched it

i'm doing my homework and listening to the podcast at the same time, and its the most relaxing thing ever

These 2 are my favorite people to listen to. I love there passion and love for what they do everyday. Please keep up the great work and stay safe!

I find myself rewatching old episodes of the kill count to help me fall asleep. This channel is too good.

My first time tuning into the podcast, was super enjoyable! Keep up the good work y’all!

I’ve never seen the podcast before, I really like the dynamic between James and Chelsea. From just watching Kill Count, I feel like it brings out another time side of him 💚

Awesome podcast as always! Happy Holidays you two! See you next year for more amazing quality podcasts!

Absolutely fantastic analysis once again, thank you so much!

This is one of the VERY few times I saw the movie before even knowing there was an episode on it haha. Love your guys' stuff as always, and you both have hella relaxing voices. One of my fav channels across youtube and Twitch both :D

Chelsea sounding especially "Michigan" at the start 😂😂

I had the pleasure of seeing this in a packed theater back at Sundance, and it was blast!

Last time I was this early it was back in the Saw days! This is so fun to be here at like 10 views! Also, love gore! Definitely gonna check this out :)

I'm so glad you guys covered this! Definitely my favorite movie of 2020, The cronenberg blood runs thick!

This is the first episode I’ve watched since the new set and it looks SO GOOD

Been waiting for this podcast! So happy you guys are talking about this movie, it was soooo fucking great🙏

Is that a Texas Chainsaw Christmas sweater?! Chelsea, that's awesome!

It's so nice to see your faces!! I've been listening to your podcast all this past week at work and I absolutely LOVE your commentary. Would love to see your commentary on the original Candyman 💖

I kinda wish they would have talked about the themes of body dysphoria I think there’s a lot in the movie that really feels like an outlet for someone going through those feelings and the imagery really matches those feelings

I just watched this last week and really enjoyed it so this is perfect!

I was like wow she looks so much like the main antagonist of Crocodile from black mirror only to discover they are the same. Okay Tilda Swinton!

This is my most favorite movie of the year! I'm so glad you guys reviewed this! 💙

the bloodstains at the end touching make a big butterfly 🦋

wait alternate 2008 makes sense just because Katya uses a flip phone at one point and I was like... huh. David Cronenberg likes to do a thing with mixing futuristic tech with more analog tech, so that just made sense to me as another thing that Brandon kind of emulated or drew inspiration from.

i love you guys you guys are so free and flowing

The Uncut version is the only one I could find but I no the other version is out there since I have seen online that there are people who have seen both. The scalp stuff at the beginning gave me flashbacks to the movie Bad Hair. The kidnapping gave me Inception vibes and the actually dat minding made me think of the scene in Fight Club where the catalogue is walked though, but what if the the catalogue you walked through actually had the models using the products. the Part of this reminded me of Brazil because of its outlook while the female in a male body reminded me of Freaky for some reason. The vision distortion were like Eye Floaters except way more defined and the the different levels of VR was a lot like The Matrix with the the sleekness of The Thirteenth Floor. The possession justification was a lot like seeing the kids in The Haunting of Bly Manor trying to make sense of what their bodies did while their consciousness were away. Have a great Holiday break y'all and here is hoping for pure awesomeness in 2021. B~)

Hey Chelsea and James I love your videos it helps me wind down after a long day. Love you guys

Also I love that you took on this movie because it's both Horror and Sci-Fi. I know you've commented before how the genres blend almost seamlessly at times, and I KNOW the focus of your channel is Horror, but I think it would be really cool to get a Sci-Fi corner commentary. Maybe once a quarter or something. It would even be a really interesting podcast just on the idea of Horror/Sci-Fi often going hand in hand. A lot of the undertones are the same.

Love you both, merry christmas you two. Cant wait to watch more ^.^

MANDY! thank you! i have been scratching my brain trying to figure out where I had seen her before. I hate googling the cast as I feel like I should be young enough at 30 to still have a strong memory. However I have probably watched 100 plus movies already this quarantine. Michigan has gone in and out of lockdowns like crazy.

Love the pod as always ! Chelsea, where’d you get that awesome sweater? I wanna wear my baby boy for Christmas too!

You offering to do the livestreams over the break speaks volumes, you are good people

i feel like if james was in a horror movie and he killed everyone at the end he would say ow lets get to the kill count!

You guys are so great 🥰 remember to ALWAYS be kind to each other... thats the secret to a forever lasting marriage... ALWAYS be kinder than whats necessary to each other, never lie and ALWAYS keep your integrity in your back pocket... pretend your spouse can see everything you do

Still in love with the new background, it’s so great

I really enjoyed this one. I heard some mixed comments on it but it was worth watching.

Thanks Chelsea and James. Didn't know about this movie until your podcast. Enjoyed it.

Saw it. Absolutely chilling experience. Almost made the mistake of eating while watching it lmao

everytime a film gets on my radar you upload a podcast on it

Love the intro and out of those movies I’ve only seen 2 or 3

31:02 i think that’s why pitch black was also so good as a low budget sci-fi horror. We just get enough to understand the things around them and a bit of how the world of the film works

I also wonder about how much pain other’s peoples bodies are in. Like, I don’t think anyone is ready for the amount of pain my knees are in 24/7.

Yall are my favorite podcast

I love that they talked annihilation right after I had just watched annihilation

Their such a great couple ❤️ love you guys! ❤️💓

you guys are the best!!

Crazy how while y’all were talking about great openers all I could think about was scream.

0:00 did I ever said this intro is awesome?

the first bit of this reminds me of the "we like this in fiction, but don't you dare do this in reality" standards in some fandoms

speaking of putting minds in other 'bodies' have you guys played Soma?

Lords of Chaos had one of the most brutal stabbing scenes I’ve ever seen. Dude gets stabbed about 25 times and it’s a 9 minute scene that doesn’t cut away

so vas seemed familiar to me but i chalked it up to her reminding me of tilda swinton, but i knew that ava looked especially familiar and i was able to place her from black mirror (white bear). but THEN i saw a comment that vas was from the crocodile episode of black mirror and so THAT's why she was also familiar

Ah yes, perfect to watch this video while walking around at 10:29pm

I agree about the kill thing James said. In a lot of a movies getting stabbed or like hacked with an axe kills people so fast it’s downright humane.

So I paused and wow that was f’ed up. Thanks for the recommendation. It was worth the purchase.

"Antichrist has some stuff." Lol

such a good couple!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why is no one talking about how James pronounces “raison d’être”??? It’s the “Rayzon daytar” for me...

YEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHHH BOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

We early today! Love ya James and Chelsea!

Took me 20 minutes before I realized what sweater Chelsea is wearing. Where do you find those?

Because we're two wild and crazy guys yess!!!!!

Love that sweater! Wher'd you cop it?

this review was a whirlwind and I loved it! i can not do realistic ?! gore in movies... I have this weird tingle sensation in the same location when I can see it on screen. so I think this is the part I will look away from! American Psycho is one of my favourite books/movies! excited about that!

never been this early to an upload before!

I feel like you two would Love Martyrs. It's a traumatic gory amazing movie.

given the description from y'all, the Rated R version being sold is substantially different from what the review is about, just in the visceral impact of the gore and body horror moments

Love your channel! I subscribed a couple of months ago and have watched every video. I would like to see a kill count and/or podcast for Shakma and Event Horizon. 2 of my personal favs. Thanks for the great content!

The gore definitely delivered in this film surely. Cronenberg is synonomous with gore, and this is no exception. Brilliant concept, well shot and acted effectively 😊

I feel like Chelsea wrote that description cause she would definitely be the one to write “Taint!” Hahaha.

I love your videos they’re great, please at some point could you make a movie ranking video for the Halloween series and a nightmare on elm street series I really wanna see your ranking of these two

Chelsea's sweatshirt is so awesome.

Good thing im up now

46:21 It looked like some sort of art piece of a fountain that uses soundwaves to make the water make weird shapes etc. I've seen it before, so I thought it was just a normal thing XD

Somehow I’ve developed crushes on both James and Chelsea haha

My college Film Communication professor showed us this.

How do I request new dead meat suggestions because I really want to suggest 39 days of night, but great podcast by the way so far.

Come for the Killcount, stay for the relationship :)

Love your videos

The debate at the beginning about if this was horror or not was baffling to me, and I just came from watching the episode about “Is it horror?” It never even crossed my mind that this would not be seen as a horror movie. Fascinating what makes people classify horror. Regardless, I loved this movie. It was so bleak, but so interesting.

Yeah it does suck to be stabbed a bunch.

Love you man