The location is not the issue. Nobody thinks this was a colony, just a work site near a colony. Wayne MacIsaac who is interviewed here is interviewed in another RU-vid video "Wayne MacIsaac's Discovery". I think he is on to something.
In those days, when you were outcast, you had little choice but to settle somewhere out of reach of those who might be able to identify you and exact vengeance. You had little to loose by striking out across the Atlantic. It's highly likely that Vikings or other Europeans had visited North America long before they tried to settle there, and plenty of tales circulated beforehand.
LandrewO: You say outcast, but don't forget people who were fleeing the ravages of the Dark Age diseases, waves of returning plagues sweeping across Europe, killing one third of the population every time until people developed immunities. They were created by the filth of ancient Rome.
Born and raised in Newfoundland and loving anything to do with history I have my own copy of the Viking sagas in Englush! My advise would be to read these saga very carefully and assume every word is accurate. Based on the sagas IMO the east side of the Northern Peninsula and going south into White Bay offers tremendous opportunity for discovery!
@@holoholopainen1627 The Lance aux Meadow’s site has been fully assessed by Norse experts, confirmed and is a now a National Historic Site. The very initial “discovery “ came about from a chance encounter with a local who knew of the peculiar “mounds”! There had been a “so called” Norse site speculated on the south coast of Newfoundland but the experts have proven it not be so and I was not surprised at all! It should not be lost that the primary purpose of the regular voyages to this part of North America was for heavy timber to build and repair their boats; much of that wood was transported back to Iceland and Norway. I have salmon fished the east side of the Northern Peninsula and the there is still tremendous amounts of heavy timber. And from my open boat travels there are many many inlets, bays and islands that would have provided very good protection from winter seas. The sagas specifically document encounters with natives in this area that eventually overwhelmed the Norse (not a lot of detail whether they were killed or captured) and knowing the overland routes in Newfoundland in this area of the country there is no doubt in my mind they were Beothuk! IMO the Norse stayed in Newfoundland for quite some time long time or at least long enough to have bred with local women. About the time that the Norse were finding their way back and forth there was a very very brief “ice age of 10 years that shut down these voyages. IMO some Norse were stranded in in this area of Newfoundland! Captain Whitbourne who sailed into Trinity Bay, NL in the 1600s specifically references in his ship’s log of seeing one boy who had blonde hair which can only be explained by interbreeding! In closing there have now been numerous discoveries of old Norse over wintering sites in the Canadian high arctic which IMO again proves that the Norse were frequent visitors!
Tack / Takk / Thanks / Merci ! Well Done - Good INFO ! I have to this several times - to soak in all THE INFO ! This is like INTO THE WILD - that took Place at ALASKA !
My father was born near this site, at Tilt Cove, named after a cabin built by his mother's father George Winsor, who was not much of a carpenter. Vikings also settled in Labrador. Unfortunately, when visited by Inuits, the Vikings believed (probably incorrectly) that they were under attack and attacked first and lost. These archaeologists should be looking for copper nails. One of my grandfather's ancestors discovered copper and copper was mined near the surface during the 19th and early 20th century. Both of my father's grandfathers were copper mine captains. Copper was the preferred metal for sea-going ships because iron is more subject to corrosion.
there is any viking settlement in america, or canada, , its a settlement of other popualtion.porably portuguese fisherman of codfish, or just natives from america.. wich used the area to fish for some time.
In Sagas 'Straumfjordr' called Settlement most likely already found in L'Anse aux Meadows-Newfoundland. Settlement in Sagas 'Hop' called still missing, possible located in today called 'new Brunswick'-Canada.
It would be so "out of character" to not go exploring the area, it would also be out of character not to have at least small huts here and there for shepherds and hunters, and prospectors for that matter.
@@nedaCFilms obekect found in canada are medieval age,a nd are from south of europe..so no viking saga here. Green land is ireland.there you cans ee the viking presence not in Canada.
It may be, there simply weren’t enough people to go around and settle further. It does not seem to be the technical requirements that limit the number of settlements.
that is not a viking settlement and there is no viking coin there , the coin has no origin in america but its from a aprtucualr collection.. in europe,, the situation was alreadys tudied by historical scientists,, from american isnitutte.
@@robertokandal Viking houses are confirmed in Canada by scientist in the 60s those scientist has a life open your eyes there is way more then houses confirmed by scientist Travis Wayne Goodsell has a RU-vid channel he is a scientist he knows extremely much more...
There is a small island in a Minnesota lake, where the island was deemed to be a very suitable site to build a family summer cottage. After clearing a small plot of bushes, a large rock was found in the middle of the bushes. Thinking the rock could be incorporated into the new landscaping, it was pulled/dragged then flipped on its side. Doing so exposed a series of etched carvings on the rock which were washed and brushed to more clearly see those markings......The markings were "transcribed" using soft pencil on paper covering the markings creating a very clear copy of them. The markings were also photographed. The shadow "etchings" created by the pencil shading of the markings onto paper and the photographs were sent to a University in New England which had a specialist in early writing including Norse "Runes" the type of writing used by the Norse to record information on rock. A preliminary analysis revealed that the series of etched letters on the Minnesota island rock DID indeed appear to be in an ancient "rune" style.
@@EdinburghFive The problem: "Scholars" who are afraid such findings will change the historical paradigms, on which they've build their careers on, call ANYTHING to the contrary...a "conspiracy theory".
The first book published by a native in North America used the name George Copway. He was an Ojibway elder from Lake Simcoe who wintered in the Niagara Peninsula. His book describes taller, red-haired men with metal axes and head-gear, who traveled across Canada and down and back up the Mississippi in peace. There are Sons and Daughters of the Gael who speak Gaelic. Bay-an-uck let, blessings on you.
How is that proof of anything? I just looked it up and he lived in the 1800s. The vikings died out long before he was born. I think that Norse probably did come into North America a lot more than we realize but what you're saying has no proof. Vikings were said to be here around 1000. How would a man born in 1818 have any real proof of that. I also highly doubt they would've went that far south. Maybe they made it South to modern NY but I highly doubt any further than that. And it wasn't like a colony, it would just be random small groups likely from Greenland in search of more resources because Greenland is desolate
@@wmd40: I'm giving you a thumbs up even if you disagree with me. Hear me. I worked with Mohawk for the first time in 1977, making friends. They taught me because I shared Scottish ancestors with them. There is a Viking community up north in Ontario, Vikings who came and never left. All over 6 and 7 feet with red hair, and big like big boys. Viking is a verb, meaning exploring and trading around. Vikings were Scots, Danes, Rus, Lapps, any northern tribe that didn't go through the Dark Ages. If Scottish people had declared foreign lands for themselves, we would own Canada and The United States. But we are a different people with our own language. It's nice that the entire world sings Auld Lang Syne at New Years and makes resolutions to make life better for all. Bay-an-uck-let, blessings on you, from someone who feels he has some to give.
@@wmd40: I saw your message again and decided to add this. The Ojibway Elder was talking history, not his life. It took a lot of determination and faith in a new technology, for any native to trust book learning, considering it was used as a reason to genocide them and deny them humane treatment. When books first came out the public rebelled, saying a book hypnotized you, because you just sat there staring and turning pages. Such is life. He says he wrote the book to open up the hearts of white people to the people and nature of this land. I know it made me cry when I first read it. I didn't know living could be so beautiful and loving. In all of North America, the Womens' Group made all the decisions. No warrior made a move without approval. No bloodshed, no diseases, until the white man came. Some native tribes had such a life of ease they only spoke in poetry and sang. I'm like that, if I let myself.
In Yarmouth, Nova Scotia museum there. Was a rock with Danish weighting chiseled in the rock proof they where there fresh water clams deer all the fish you could ever eat too !
That local man says his grandpa found an overturned boat with 3 tall people underneath....and a stone arrowhead. Vikings did not use stone arrowheads though. Stone tools found in similar context are Solutrean.....oh dear 😁
Some guys grandfather found Solutrean bodies. Either that grandfather was very old, like well over 15000 years old, or those Solutreans were really, really old.
The viking sagas insist the Vikings sailed as far South as Cape Cod.. Also that they had a camp on the large Island on the border of Maine and Canada today,, because of hostile natives on the mainland ...
@@lewis7315 It's not clear. You need empirical, archaeological evidence. Americans try to make everything about them. And are probe to conspiracy theories. The Vikings likely stayed in Canada.
It’s interesting that the very first shot of this film zooms in on the plant plantago lanceolata -plantain- labeled by native Americans “white man’s footprint”. It was brought to the continent by settlers who used it for medicinal purposes such as wound healing.
It's my understanding, that the "powers to be" have shut this women down and she has now returned to her Egypt studies. Evidently, the Canadian government doesn't want any more findings made of Scandinavian settlements in early Canada?
No one shut her down. She did the field work, found nothing, and moved on. Just like all other archaeologists do. Some sites are a win and others are a bust. The "Canadian Government" doesn't have jurisdiction over the site Dr Parcak worked on. It is the Province of Newfoundland & Labrador's jurisdiction.
Point Rosee has subsequently been shown to be an uninhabited site. The archaeologists should have waited for definitive evidence before making a PBS special on it. But I suppose the $$$$ and notoriety was too tempting. When I watched the PBS special I thought to myself this isn't right. Turns out the whole thing was nonsense after all.
Lief Erickson's family member Gudrid Thorbjarnardottir (search her name :) sailed around the southern tip of Nova Scotia called the "Wonderstrand" to the large island on the Maine/ Canada border called "streem Island." the saga suggests some of them sailed to Cape Cod from there!
Yeah that's not true...."they" whoever that is did not determine that. It's 100 percent Norse artifacts according to any peer reviewed archaeologist. It's cut and dry - this was a Norse site.
Why did so many people get hysterical about this discovery? Columbus was carrying maps of the New World on his first voyage. There's plenty of evidence that the Chinese explored America centuries ago. Polynesians colonized every island in the Pacific, yet they never set foot on the shores of the Americas? The most outlandish tale is that Columbus was the first.
Polynesians explored and colonized the Pacific and probably Western Mexico because if you study Toltec art there is a resemblance to polynesian art. According to historians Native Americans originated in modern day Mongolia and travelled to the Americas when there was an ice bridge connecting Eastern Russia to Alaska. However Columbus was not carrying maps to the New World, Europeans didn't even know the New World existed and this is why Native Americans were called "Indians" because Columbus thought he had circumnavigated the globe and landed in India. Regarding the legitimacy of Vikings being the first to discover the New World, it seems there's a million dollars and a bit of Hollywood glitter for anyone who can convince people this is a reality.
Vikings have been to Canada. L'Anse aux Meadows is the only proven Viking settlement in North America. Was discovered almost 60 years ago now and dates back to 1000 AD. predating Columbus by 500 years. It is a UNESCO world heritage site and frankly anyone arguing against this, shows their ignorance.
I think it's called Caroline island, it's off the southern California coast, there were Polynesian fish hooks found there many many many many moons ago
I mentioned were I seen a Vikings Arena in Canada off of the railroad tracks! It could have been Canada our the United States because it was all Nouvelle France! It's on my webpage!
@@Scriptorsilentum Nova, Nat Geo and others are psychotic about copyright, and have videos deleted all the time. I once contacted Nova to ask if I coulde use an image of theirs in a classroom to show how to make a complex photo into a seamless texture and they refused citing copyright infringement.
My favorite T-shirt: *_"You're_*_ _*_On_*_ _*_VIKING_*_ _*_Land!"_* My second favorite is: "Always be yourself! Unless you can be a Viking! _THEN _*_Always_*_ Be A _*_VIKING!!!_*
The Norse traveled all the way down from Baffin Island, and there's strong evidence that they also spent time in Southern shores. The real reason they didn't settle is because the Native Civilizations kicked their asses.
@@johnbrowne3950 it's doubtful, the Comanche halted all progress in their lands for ages and they were using bows against guns, the reasons why the Indigenous Americans were eventually defeated was due to the settlers fighting dirty just about every time. The Norse had every opportunity to come back in greater numbers, its explicitly stated in the Vinland and Icelandic Sagas by the Vikings that the riches of the land were not worth trying to fight the folks who lived there first given their experiences with them. This is historical fact.
@@johnbrowne3950 it would have been members of the Beothuk who forced the Norse out, along with Mi'kmaq, there's an interesting book written by William Cormack in 1822, according to his Mi'kmaq guide the Beothuk were viewed by their neighboring tribes to be incredibly fierce warriors. I imagine the Vikings showing up had something to do with that.
george peters: Don't worry, I won't get into Gaelic and Scottish accents. You might be confusing the Latin from Holy Roman Empire occupation. "V" was pronounced as "W", another difference. Bay-an-uck-let, blessings on you.
I have been watching this on Netflix & I love it. But that lady Sarah made me upset saying "so many roots". Time Team digs in much worse places. Gosh her roots are only grass, not even bushes or shrubs on that flat space of land. I do hope they find some things viking though. Just stop whining ma'am or get real archologists out there.
The sand bar and tides where butternut and salmon comes in is Bay du vin NB ,,,I've found strong evidence that would make them think twice and found ruins exactly same as lance of meadows ,,,at 8 other sites found things that archeoligist would want to see ,,,
@@robertokandal and u know cause u were there haha sorry my theory doesn’t follow yours it’s such a harm to speculate? Cuz we know exactly what happened a long time ago it’s up for debate whether you like it or not
They know, they would have found evidence of that. It’s indeed reported that Forrests were present at the time, but the specific seed species weren’t found from that time elsewhere, so logical conclusion: they are imported from elsewhere.
nothign VIKIMNg never BEEN IN CANaDA read hsioptry books they only sailed seen coast line,, they wouldnt aventure goinfg to nowhere..deep sea. they had river ships not deep sea ships.
Because Vikings didn't waste their time and resources on such frivolities as institutionalized prisons. This means they had no one to make the license plates. Probably why all their cars got impounded by the royal Mounties upon landing...
BIEN ! Mais les NORTHS ont été devancés par les moines scotto-britons et par les SAMIS. Relisez la SAGA d'ERIC ROURE ( le rouge). Mais trouver des restes d'embarcation-panier tressée en osier, noisetier et recouvert de peaux ou de cuir ! pas évidant . MAIS un 2ème site norths en HELLULAND , c'est BIEN .
Dr. Parcack gives a very clear explanation of her use of radio telescopes, geology, and inductive reasoning to identify possible Vikings sites in Eastern Canada and the interviewer says, "so it got your spidey sense tingling?" She, her entire team, and the CBC deserve better than this clown of an interviewer.
@@cernunnos_lives They did it to the people who were here before them. They had it coming. Get over yourself. Look up pre Clovis before you start spouting ignorance in the form of rage. Save yourself any further embarrassment.
There is a real life adventure brewing out their. A man has discovered a dictionary that allows you to read ancient Viking runes as ideograms. Stories from over six centuries ago are now readable. This dictionary does for prehistoric runic what the Rosetta stone did for Egyptian hieroglyphics. See 'The log of the Kensington rune stone', on you tube. Anyone can participate with a copy of his report. No hoards have been found yet.
I'm sorry where are the landscape arcaeologists who would even say before the dig no way would sailors choose this place as it is dangerous to land? Also shows how far we have come from 'knowing' our landscape, weather patterns and ways, to looking for something from space without any of this basic but hugely important knowledge. So sad.
Helen Bennett , in 1989. I went to visit the old Jamestown settlement, and the knowledge at the time, was it was out in the James river, so nothing existed... now, it's been found and is a tourist attraction...
Well...EVEN THE STONE...says "We left the boats 14 days journey from this spot". So they either took smaller boats or they walked to where the stone was formed.
I'm not familiar with Kensington but I have been to Runestone State Park in SE Oklahoma a couple times and the stone itself is dated in runic script to the 12rh century. Gives you an eerie feeling to stand on the hillside a few hundred feet from the stone and look out across the valley at the stream that once filled the valley and imagine the longboat coming up from the Mississippi and beaching on the hillside.
im not one to say either have been debunked, but if you just look at the things that dont line up, like making a runestone in the middle of nowhere during a temporary stay and then how anachronistic the specific runes are i say innocent until proven otherwise gotta prove it before i believe it
@@carolsteinhauer5935 The "scientists" have been debunked. There is too much PROOF that, at least, the Kensington stone COULD NOT POSSIBLY have been faked.
@@carolsteinhauer5935 The scientists debunk anything that's too far outside of what they know already. That's why so many so many artifacts get ignored or disappear and knowledge advances at a glacial speed. Look up Burrows Cave as an example
Because Leif Ericsson, the first Viking to create a settlement in Vineland, after overwintering returned to Greenland with a cargo of wood and grapes. He made enough money from this cargo that he essentially retired.
For one thing the sagas say there were. They are quite definite on this point. For another, Farley Mowat found a report by a French botanist that there were wild grape vines growing in Newfoundland in the 17th century. Don't forget the climate was warmer and the weather milder during the Medieval Warm Period than it is today.
First American was the so called indians. Vikings was the first Europeans that settle with farms and had the first European baby born there. Read about the new foundland findings. When that is done understand this people that so easy went down all waterways and see the markers and stones with rune writings found several places in America. I suggest you then go to google maps satellite and see where all the rivers in the US goes....Very exciting :-)
NO THEY WERE NOT. There were Europeans here all up and down the east coast long before they got here, and in south America there were Afro-Aboriginal people. The migrant Mongols slaughtered both when they got here. Quit spreading lies and do some damned research for yourself instead of guzzling the choad if the status quo.
There was more then one Harbour that was made of the same BluePrint, but Atlantis HARBOUR = Prince Edward Iland // USA = Atlantis // Plato are describing almost exact size of the (Continent of USA that are a Iland in his perspective of view, outide the pillar of Hercules (spain/Marocco). Peace and love!
The fact that The National posted this video with the word "possible" in the title should demonstrate to anyone who can read that even they're not completely sold on the claim that Vikings made it to Canada.
'Possible' in the title refers to this instance. There is a proven Viking settlement in Canada, in L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland. It's been known for almost 60 years.
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