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A senior Post Office executive was told by an independent investigator that an innocent sub-postmaster had been wrongly imprisoned without “any evidence”, six years before his conviction was finally quashed.
A secret recording obtained by ITV News has revealed Angela Van Den Bogerd, former Head of Partnerships at the Post Office, was told in January 2015 that the organisation had “materially misled” the courts in prosecuting Carl Page - a sub-postmaster from Staffordshire.
She was a key figure in the Post Office scandal and gave evidence to Parliament in February 2015 alongside then-Chief Executive Paula Vennells.
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@WilliamClegg-iv9sl
@WilliamClegg-iv9sl 22 дня назад
Why are we wasting time having a inquiry. It should be a criminal court case against all of them.
@brianlopez8855
@brianlopez8855 22 дня назад
No, the drama has to be played out first.
@michaelmcginley7930
@michaelmcginley7930 22 дня назад
No chance of conviction. .these people always get away with it
@michaelmcginley7930
@michaelmcginley7930 22 дня назад
If I had went to prison because of vennels and van der borg and they don't get jailed then I would seeking retrepution sevene retrebution
@swisscottagecleanairaction
@swisscottagecleanairaction 22 дня назад
Because we have a government that protects criminals. Just look at the Grenfell inquiry. All the cladding criminals got away.
@ftumschk
@ftumschk 22 дня назад
Thing is, without the Inquiry we wouldn't know the extent of what "all of them" means. The thoroughness of the Inquiry, and the mass of evidence it's gathered together, means that more potential culprits have been identified than would otherwise have been the case.
@crosswhite17
@crosswhite17 22 дня назад
Clearly the wrong people went to prison.
@RestoDesignsnando
@RestoDesignsnando 15 дней назад
Yes and now it's time for the right ones to go to jail!
@MM.-qo7pk
@MM.-qo7pk 3 дня назад
Over 20 prole from this scandal need to go to jail and their pensions confiscate , passports and seize their assets under the proceeds of crime ! They thought they could play the courts as well !
@brawrecords
@brawrecords 22 дня назад
These post office execs need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The lives they have ruined is not forgivable.
@eisbeinGermany
@eisbeinGermany 21 день назад
of which will never happen,we all know that not one will ever be prosecuted, politicians protect each other,
@denis888red
@denis888red 17 дней назад
'not forgivable'. Exactly that my friend. Exactly that.
@JeremySayers38
@JeremySayers38 15 дней назад
They will be prosecuted to the fullest for a rich white woman. So not at all then on all three counts.
@paulgregory2601
@paulgregory2601 15 дней назад
Nothing ever happens to these dreadfull people!
@eisbeinGermany
@eisbeinGermany 15 дней назад
@@paulgregory2601 i agree,all over the world they are above the law
@NicholasG
@NicholasG 22 дня назад
Unbelievable stuff here. Evil. They clearly need to be immediately arrested. What are we waiting for.
@Andrew-rc3vh
@Andrew-rc3vh 22 дня назад
We need all the evidence first. The inquiry needs to be run first otherwise any trial would interfere with it. Even if the police don't act, Mr Bates will prosecute them.
@stephenholmes1036
@stephenholmes1036 22 дня назад
Private eye and Computer weekly have been on this for 14 years
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
Evil people 😢
@juliet7703
@juliet7703 22 дня назад
I think these evil people will string it out for as long as they can to avoid paying out..I reallly want justice for the victims but I m just not sure they will get it...
@adenwellsmith6908
@adenwellsmith6908 22 дня назад
Get then into the inquiry. Then you prosecute. They they discover they can't be consistent.
@nigelhart3897
@nigelhart3897 22 дня назад
"Can you please leave my property, paid for by post office bonuses." While innocent people went to jail.
@mikegleed5842
@mikegleed5842 22 дня назад
👏
@DH-uq1zw
@DH-uq1zw 22 дня назад
And they lost their homes, health, families, reputations and some their lives.
@kyp1969
@kyp1969 22 дня назад
Agreed. It’s disgusting.
@jeremylarson6267
@jeremylarson6267 22 дня назад
come on man, they did say please
@paulineashcroft1485
@paulineashcroft1485 21 день назад
And at least one woman ended up living in a van. How evil these people are.
@jempro1674
@jempro1674 22 дня назад
Angela Van Den Bogerd is guilty and needs to do time. Why the wait? Her pension should help the victims... Now!
@terrapyn99
@terrapyn99 21 день назад
Angela Random Bogus
@tonygunn6889
@tonygunn6889 21 день назад
Lock up
@michaelmcginley7930
@michaelmcginley7930 16 дней назад
No chance of jail
@tonygunn6889
@tonygunn6889 8 дней назад
Now she had memory issue care brand post office
@rogertaylor6386
@rogertaylor6386 7 дней назад
Just like cranky ,I can't recall I've got a terrible memory it's sometime back now etc. etc.
@onemanandhisdogsgoawonderi4630
@onemanandhisdogsgoawonderi4630 22 дня назад
Send them to jail
@SingWhileYouMay
@SingWhileYouMay 22 дня назад
She won't see any jail time, they need the cell for a smelly homeless person.
@cliffordbuttle4529
@cliffordbuttle4529 21 день назад
That sounds harsh just give them a warning not to do it again 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
@deadpanbarry5442
@deadpanbarry5442 16 дней назад
Iife in prison.
@stuartross7697
@stuartross7697 16 дней назад
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@MikeEves
@MikeEves 15 дней назад
The establishment don't go to jail
@user-nm9hw6sw4m
@user-nm9hw6sw4m 22 дня назад
she must have all her assists striped and the millions she was paid in bonus's and wages re turned to the public purse and she need sanctioned ... before she goes to jail for a very long time .. 150 court cases she watched and sat there happy know fine well she was doing wrong .. police need to act now and so does the uk government.
@Jon-xw9om
@Jon-xw9om 22 дня назад
Yep. Her and all the others. Why should any of them be allowed to profit from the proceeds of crime?
@cp4512
@cp4512 22 дня назад
Yes
@bwghall1
@bwghall1 22 дня назад
COME ON governments ACT NOW. BEFORE YOU GET DRAGED BY THE PEOPLE AS THEY ARE NOW SEETHING.
@cazfloss1990
@cazfloss1990 22 дня назад
She should but she won’t.
@theDesignClass
@theDesignClass 22 дня назад
She should be charged. I'm no solicitor, but at the very at least, I think Perverting the Course of Justice should be put against her.
@brianlopez8855
@brianlopez8855 22 дня назад
When will the joke Regulator, the Solicitors Regulation Authority get its ar$e in gear over this lot ?
@davefave4351
@davefave4351 21 день назад
Perjury. Lying under oath to a Parliamentary committee. Corporate Manslaughter. Conspiracy to commit fraud. SPMs were forced to repay monies that never existed!
@pandav4843
@pandav4843 22 дня назад
they have big salary, big bonusses and now guess what ,, nothing will happen with these people because they have money. are not poor persons. When you have money you will not go to jail..
@briancooper4232
@briancooper4232 22 дня назад
Absolutely spot on...they all come under the cloak of deniability, there maybe of few sacrificial scapegoats, however the real guilty will be let off ,offering pathetic apologies and playing the ' pass the buck ' game
@Drewtheelder
@Drewtheelder 22 дня назад
@@briancooper4232 Spot on.
@JohanThiart
@JohanThiart 22 дня назад
The penalties for these people should be to the satisfaction of the victims. That should be the only thing that keeps these people out of prison. There are so many more victims of corporate abuse out there….! An example should be made in this instance if only for that reason …. The only mitigation is that these people “did not know what they were doing” Jesus of Nazareth.
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
They have d money and all d means to drag this out for yrs hoping d general public forget
@lozziel9662
@lozziel9662 22 дня назад
so they need to be relieved of their money....
@martinbennett2228
@martinbennett2228 22 дня назад
In none of these trials was the Post Office able to identify money that went into possession of the victims. The judges should have insisted that the PO find and provide this evidence. The judges and other lawyers also let down the sub-postmasters and mistresses.
@kevinthepilgrim5441
@kevinthepilgrim5441 22 дня назад
That’s baffled me too. If they had stolen tens of thousands, where is it? Were hundreds of Sub Postmasters in league together to hide their ill gotten gains offshore in tax havens? Of course not, the duff software was creating the shortfalls all along and PO knew it.
@Ken-er9cq
@Ken-er9cq 22 дня назад
Yes, every case should have had an independent forensic accountant go through the records and work out what had happened.
@johnclarke-vs9qe
@johnclarke-vs9qe 6 дней назад
Yes this was an unforgivable failing of the courts. They should have been able to attribute some of the sub postmasters finances to being money they had "stolen", but couldn't, yet they were still found guilty. Shocking!
@johnclarke-vs9qe
@johnclarke-vs9qe 22 дня назад
The Post Office prosecuted the Postmasters, now it's time for them to prosecute these executives!
@Garwfechan-ry5lk
@Garwfechan-ry5lk 22 дня назад
Absolutely despicable, why on Earth did Cameron give Vennells an Honour?
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
Maybe he gave her something else as well 😂😂
@monteceitomoocher
@monteceitomoocher 22 дня назад
​@@noelfleming3567i understand he's into the porcine type, no difference really, all troughers.
@PJMcInerney
@PJMcInerney 21 день назад
Thought it was Teresa May?
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 21 день назад
Because they’re all in it together. The patrician classes have always exploited us, the plebeians. The history has been the same since The Secession of the Plebs, way back during the Roman republic, through the Peasant’s Revolt, all the way to the trade Union movement. They will exploit anybody they can.
@paulbrightwell3621
@paulbrightwell3621 21 день назад
Because they are all the same and none of them have any shame. Let's remember that Cameron was found guilty of lobbying MPs for money - now he is a Lord. They are all as bad as each other
@wristwatch15
@wristwatch15 22 дня назад
If there was justice she would be attending the inquiry in an orange jumpsuit and chains. 😮
@annepoitrineau5650
@annepoitrineau5650 22 дня назад
This is not the uniform sported in British prisons: mixed fibre sweat shirt and black trousers at the time I was working as a prison tutor.
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
Money talks
@eisbeinGermany
@eisbeinGermany 21 день назад
will not happen,not one will ever see a court
@andydudley1775
@andydudley1775 19 дней назад
im sure her property can be sold to help the victims .
@marksavage1108
@marksavage1108 17 дней назад
@@annepoitrineau5650 Wrong, no black anything after an inmate copied a prison officers uniform and walked out. the same reason for pictures of yourself being banned.
@stormythelowcountrykitty7147
@stormythelowcountrykitty7147 22 дня назад
It really is appalling that the British government acted this way. Shame shame shame.
@danielboone8435
@danielboone8435 22 дня назад
Post Office, Ltd is a private corporation. It isn't like the USPS.
@greyfriars6540
@greyfriars6540 22 дня назад
@@danielboone8435 Its only shareholder is the UK government, but they decided to keep PO at arms length when they should have had clear oversight at all times.
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
If these people walk away from this their is no justice in d uk 😢
@stormythelowcountrykitty7147
@stormythelowcountrykitty7147 22 дня назад
@mariabillings4487 yes. They were the 100% owner and were told repeatedly of what was happening. And ignored it perhaps because most of the victims were South Asian.
@DGart609
@DGart609 22 дня назад
Forgetting the MPs who were working on this case until now? the Post Office is a private company, thats why the government had a committee meeting with them, and why theyre being prosecuted for lying to government.
@onx99
@onx99 22 дня назад
Paula V should be on trial for murder, or at least manslaughter.
@cp4512
@cp4512 22 дня назад
This is absolutely shocking. They knew years ago but hid the information as innocent people went to jail and tried to commit suicide. It’s horrific that these rich cretins took their big bonuses whilst other live fell apart. So inhumane and deceitful 😢
@sleepy_hs
@sleepy_hs 22 дня назад
some of them actually did end their lives.
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
We will see how d law works now 😂
@ChoppingtonOtter
@ChoppingtonOtter 17 дней назад
When you see them at the enquiry the arrogance is astounding.
@jacksyful
@jacksyful 14 дней назад
their behavior CANNOT be allowed to go unpunished , it is despicable beyond words!!
@davidcronan4072
@davidcronan4072 22 дня назад
This is the woman (according to the drama) who made the wife of a post-master who had taken his own life by walking in front of a bus sign a non-disclosure agreement before the Post Office would pay her any compensation.
@migry
@migry 22 дня назад
The British legal system is VERY BADLY broken from the very top to the very bottom. Virtually no compensation for the Post Office sub-postmasters and £100 million in payments for the people in the legal system involved in the pathetic "investigation".
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
Taxpayers money
@paulineashcroft1485
@paulineashcroft1485 21 день назад
Rich lawyers and poor victims.
@hpoonis2010
@hpoonis2010 21 день назад
Globally, lawyers will always get the lion's share. They are predisposed to not do anything gratis.
@pashby3
@pashby3 21 день назад
Nearing half as many Legal entities as diminishing Teachers in the UK, what are we learning from this case is Institution UK is riddled but not ridded of crud at every level.. Systemic unfortunatly the Good ones get drowned out.. Britain should have a National Peoples Party ...the day after UK Election 2024 for 14yrs of misrepresentation of its Subjects. A search for Public money costs more of the same - "Spaffed" as bj put it.
@michaelmcginley7930
@michaelmcginley7930 16 дней назад
Correct.your statement is far more accurate than the folk who think vennels etc will be jailed
@tommy87431
@tommy87431 22 дня назад
tragic how Angela Van Den Bogerd treated her dog with more respect and dignity than all those subpostmasters combined. Honestly how does she sleep at night
@paulineashcroft1485
@paulineashcroft1485 21 день назад
Mad Bad Bogeyman probably sleeps in the day.
@pmarmify
@pmarmify 22 дня назад
police should be ordered to arrest her & have her charged with many counts of perjury, perverting course of justice, misconduct etc & should be made to lose her house, pension & all assets! THEN JAILED for 50 years!
@grahamrobson9292
@grahamrobson9292 21 день назад
She did genocide on her own employees.
@cliffordbuttle4529
@cliffordbuttle4529 21 день назад
Police do as they are told bunch of shirt lifters 😮😮😮😮😮😮
@jacksyful
@jacksyful 14 дней назад
@@cliffordbuttle4529 thats how police bosses get their knighthoods!!
@MRJERRYCURTIN
@MRJERRYCURTIN 4 дня назад
Wistfully thinking alas
@joshuastanton6731
@joshuastanton6731 22 дня назад
Never trust a public official who says anything with absolute certainty.
@jasonthompson7378
@jasonthompson7378 22 дня назад
Its odd to me that with this evidence they are not in jail as yet!
@kevinmcguire1049
@kevinmcguire1049 22 дня назад
None of the miscarriages of justice can be forgotten, and those responsible must be held to account and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
It will take yrs I hope to see these vile people jailed and stripped of all bonuses but I fear d way d world is going 😢😢
@philipharris-smith5889
@philipharris-smith5889 22 дня назад
Shocking, the PO management must be prosecuted.
@telecontar
@telecontar 22 дня назад
I don't know how any of the post office executives can sleep at night with that much blood on their hands.
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
These people don't even recognise ordinary people u are only there to serve
@gearoftones8585
@gearoftones8585 21 день назад
Unless she's held accountable under the law, this is all utterly pointless.
@marksavage1108
@marksavage1108 17 дней назад
OH they know its on its way, Alan Bates has clearly declared that for any weird corrupt reason that the police dont bring charges, his alliance of subpostmasters will be fully engaged in civil actions against all involved. .
@michaelmcginley7930
@michaelmcginley7930 16 дней назад
Never was about punishing these people but more about enriching the legal profession
@3bebles
@3bebles 22 дня назад
What a vile person! Could we please conclude the enquiry asap and let the Police and the Courts take over as would be and has been the case with so many rank and file citizens. These corrupt, greedy, stubborn, selfish and entitled 'bosses' acted knowingly in a criminal way, so let them face the music of Justice good and proper, not a pretence...
@MrBubba311
@MrBubba311 22 дня назад
Quite an impressive home Ms Van Den Bogerd lives in.
@Zoro007
@Zoro007 22 дня назад
Yes, but strangely no letter box...😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@cp4512
@cp4512 22 дня назад
Yep, she obviously enjoyed her bonuses as she hide evidence from the courts and destroyed innocent lives. How do these cretins live with themselves? They are little more than common thieves.
@brianlopez8855
@brianlopez8855 22 дня назад
at the moment...
@jempro1674
@jempro1674 22 дня назад
Her cell will have a letter box for food....@@Zoro007
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
Junk mail 😂😂
@pm1104
@pm1104 22 дня назад
Shocking………these people at the post office should now be prosecuted.! 😮
@WillyPigg83
@WillyPigg83 21 день назад
That crook in her huge house while sending innocent people to prison. It's sickening.
@JoelJoel321
@JoelJoel321 22 дня назад
Thoroughly stupid and thoroughly evil is a dangerous combination.
@David-xs9hc
@David-xs9hc 22 дня назад
British Gov an absolute disgrace. These people should be already in jail. Shamefull.
@vantheman1238
@vantheman1238 22 дня назад
Honestly there are people like this up and down the country and they work for large organisations in HR and internal recruitment. They are power hungry and mean spirited. Power goes to their heads and they hold people’s lives and careers in their hands. Many times there is corruption.
@Xenc5
@Xenc5 22 дня назад
Disgusting behaviour! Generations of lives ruined from this.
@charleswillcock3235
@charleswillcock3235 22 дня назад
Every day I become more disgusted by the Post Office management how do these people sleep at night!?
@Jon-xw9om
@Jon-xw9om 18 дней назад
bonuses?
@jackiestoff5896
@jackiestoff5896 22 дня назад
Jail sentences, loss of friends, loss of property, living in cars, suicide attempts. My God these poor people have been through the most c terrible traumas. And parents have passed away before their childrens' convictions had been overturned. Lifelong heartache for so many poor souls.
@nikolaslarson6891
@nikolaslarson6891 22 дня назад
Greed and ruthless social climbing. There is nothing worse. Van Den Bogerd is bad enough but a vicar acting this way is perhaps the most dispicable.
@jacksyful
@jacksyful 14 дней назад
the vicar s going straight to HELL!!
@denisemarionjames1487
@denisemarionjames1487 8 дней назад
I agree and I think they wanted to make her a bishop, that to me was the worst kick in the teeth for those seeking justice. I’m a Christian and I honestly cannot believe she is still practising.
@allseeingi
@allseeingi 5 дней назад
@@denisemarionjames1487 Oh she’s still practicing however it’s more than likely with her solicitor prior to her appearance at the enquiry .
@heronblue3577
@heronblue3577 22 дня назад
Off to jail ...... oh wait this is the uk nothing will happen.
@kirishima638
@kirishima638 22 дня назад
‘We will wait for results of the inquiry’ ‘The country must learn lessons and move on’
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
These people in d PO commented crimes they have to held to account
@bobdylan7120
@bobdylan7120 22 дня назад
Why is this only an inquiry that can simply make recommendations and suggestions? Why is it not a criminal investigation with the powers to arrest and imprison?
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
Money and all down to d taxpayer 😢😢
@lairdinho
@lairdinho 22 дня назад
The inquiry is the inquiry. And it's not up to the inquiry to prosecute. That's up to the police and the CPS who are not running the inquiry. For now, it's not clear what the attitude of the police and the CPS. They may be very close to pressing charges. Or not. it's only been relatively recently that indications of criminal behaviour as opposed to a terrible cock up have emerged. Let's hope prosecutions will follow fairly soon.
@bobdylan7120
@bobdylan7120 5 дней назад
@@lairdinho What's the betting the CPS will say: "In light of the inquiry, and the associated news coverage, coupled with the TV drama covering the subject, it is felt the PO personnel will not be able to get a fair trial and it is therefore not in the public interest to pursue this matter further".
@lairdinho
@lairdinho 5 дней назад
@@bobdylan7120 Very low, I'd say. There will be prosecutors keen to make their name getting stuck into this. Contrary to the conspiracy theories about elite cover ups, the reality is that there's a cover up at the post office and then some government ministers desperately trying to distance themselves. If there's half decent evidence of criminal offences by post office executives, they'll be prosecuted. Now, I think they likely have acted criminally, but proving that in a legal context may not be straight forward, which is what people typically over look. Just because it feels like they did it, doesn't mean you can prove it.
@tgfabthunderbird1
@tgfabthunderbird1 22 дня назад
When does criminal prosecution begin? When will reparations and redress go to the victims and their families?
@kirishima638
@kirishima638 22 дня назад
lol!
@commonsense31
@commonsense31 22 дня назад
They need to arrest them! Seriously they are so corrupt! They should be arrested immediately
@julierogers1155
@julierogers1155 22 дня назад
I am SO SORRY to the innocent victims, Carl Page ... and Rubbina Shaheen. SHAME SHAME SHAME on Angela Van Den Bogerd (former Head of Partnerships at the Post Office). I look forward to all the victims (except those already dead) seeing Angela Van Den Bogerd spend time IN JAIL, be fined, be ordered to PAY large sums of money, and continue to experience the censure and disapproval by her neighbors, family, friends, and country.
@ricokwan7178
@ricokwan7178 22 дня назад
Again and again proved. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, particularly the convictions secured meant bonus money to all those involved. It's entirely disgraceful.
@user-ck8zu9tm1o
@user-ck8zu9tm1o 22 дня назад
As a complete amateur psychologist it appears to me that those at the top of post office lack empathy which, from my understanding is a classic sign of those who are very high on the psychopathy scale. I would have thought that women would have more compassion, it appears not so.
@dukenukem5768
@dukenukem5768 21 день назад
Not women who reach that sort of position. I remember as a child, when women leaders were unheard of, reading a letter to the paper saying if national leaders were women there would be no more wars. Even then I knew that was untrue, and a while after that Mrs Thatcher was a leader in the Falklands war and Golda Meir in the Yom Kippur war. Psychologically, such women are similar to men.
@user-ck8zu9tm1o
@user-ck8zu9tm1o 21 день назад
@@dukenukem5768 Yes, I've read that although female psychopaths are a little more difficult to diagnose there are as many as there are males that are high on the psychopathy scale. Funny you mention Margaret Thatcher, she is one that I had in mind.
@Grumszy
@Grumszy 22 дня назад
Look at her salary and house... That's why she was lying... She and others should be given a lengthy prison term.
@JohnDavis-ed5sg
@JohnDavis-ed5sg 22 дня назад
Looks like a nice house, eh? These people will never pay, they are the establishment.
@fireskycam9889
@fireskycam9889 22 дня назад
How can these people sleep at night knowing what they did to people’s lives
@johnhayes1635
@johnhayes1635 22 дня назад
Itv drip feeding the evidence everyday! Fantastic journalism!
@adrianlloyd6403
@adrianlloyd6403 22 дня назад
She will have to explain her actions at the enquiry, along with Paula Vennells, so we can all await that with interest.It's a pity this enquiry has lasted 3 years now, but then this country likes drawing these things out with expensive lawyers.Lots of £££££££££ for the lawyers.
@twistedcherrypop
@twistedcherrypop 22 дня назад
Vanden bogard came across as vile in the drama
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
She is
@jonelectronics510
@jonelectronics510 22 дня назад
Van De Bogerd has a very nice house for letting innocent people rot in jail after having everything stripped from them......
@tullochgorum6323
@tullochgorum6323 22 дня назад
Remember folks - it was shortly after this that POL sacked Second Sight and covered up their conclusions. Whenever you think it can't get any worse...
@grondhero
@grondhero 22 дня назад
So many lives were ruined because these women couldn't admit they were wrong.
@John_Narayan
@John_Narayan 20 дней назад
Typicial females.
@steved7961
@steved7961 22 дня назад
There obviously came a point when these liars knew that it was them or the postmasters and decided without exception that it was going to be the postmasters. Not one honest person among senior PO staff. I don't expect that any of them will suffer more than a slap on the wrist and a shorter time at the trough than anticipated but they will all have their generous pensions for services not rendered.
@oc2phish07
@oc2phish07 22 дня назад
They both need to be in jail right now.
@Paragon62
@Paragon62 14 дней назад
There’s more than 2 who need to go to jail.
@thebeesnuts777
@thebeesnuts777 22 дня назад
"Can you leave my property " hopefully not for long
@cafepablo
@cafepablo 22 дня назад
Corporate manslaughter. Fines equivalent to all of their bonuses plus interest. Jail time.
@brendanayres7920
@brendanayres7920 22 дня назад
How are the Post Office Senior Executive not being prosecuted in a court of law for fraud, extortion and perjury!
@MichaelEnright-gk6yc
@MichaelEnright-gk6yc 22 дня назад
The serious fraud office should be involved as this is costing £ billion plus a £100 pounds wasted on expensive lawyers.
@oididdidi
@oididdidi 22 дня назад
Seriously...hundreds of convictions??????? Hard to see how government is not culpable in this matter. You'd think they would have asked serious questions. Numpties the lot of them.
@josephinedewar4469
@josephinedewar4469 22 дня назад
Numpties is a very polite word, considering these people. My mind is swirling with a whirlpool of sewer-like words, but wouldn't be published!!! 🤢🤮
@bobbycaldwell4132
@bobbycaldwell4132 22 дня назад
All this being uncovered , why no one in nick
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
More than likely someone got greedy and didn't get their way and let slip
@kirishima638
@kirishima638 22 дня назад
For the same reason Boris and Moan and the rest of them got away with suspending parliament, Partygate, PPE scandal etc. The law only applies to us plebs. They know we will grumble but ultimately accept it.
@jaceacekalgoorlie
@jaceacekalgoorlie 22 дня назад
Its a club, we're not in it.
@elliec4154
@elliec4154 22 дня назад
Sick beyond words.
@samkayak8712
@samkayak8712 22 дня назад
The thing that worries me is this: After the enquiry, will it be possible to find a jury that is not prejudiced against Vennells and all her conspiritors.
@juju1957k
@juju1957k 21 день назад
Well it would be nice to think they will all plead guilty.. But I think they will defend their guilty selves until the bitter end... So yes it will be difficult to find that jury... 😒
@nfcpro
@nfcpro 22 дня назад
These people need to be in a criminal court.... as a matter of urgency
@ianmclaren9721
@ianmclaren9721 22 дня назад
These disgusting types perjure themselves without penalty get paid bonuses and achieve zero for the post office. Meanwhile the workers get accused of theft?
@tomwilko7841
@tomwilko7841 22 дня назад
"he's gone to a lot of effort for little gain" these proles really are insufferable
@Elansol
@Elansol 22 дня назад
these people need to go to jail
@dewbiedewdew
@dewbiedewdew 22 дня назад
Should be given 6 years behind bars in recompense.
@suzannegardner7143
@suzannegardner7143 22 дня назад
Disgrace,poor innocent people
@jameshealy2947
@jameshealy2947 22 дня назад
Prison for these two 🧙‍♀️.
@bobsanders9500
@bobsanders9500 22 дня назад
There are at least three women that should be investigated and charged with crimes.
@ChoppingtonOtter
@ChoppingtonOtter 22 дня назад
I am watching the daily feed from the enquiry and seriously, at every turn it gets worse and worse. Each day - its truly staggering. The arrognace displayed by those senior staff giving evidence from the Post office is unbelievable- I'd encourage people to watch as you will be really shocked. In fact they are so arrogant and contemptous of the enquiry even now that they are clearly of the belief they are untouchable (we may yet see they are - the establishment looks after its own always) . Currently the PO is delaying disclosure of documents even now, despite clear instructions from the chair and all of this coverage.
@quietowl1246
@quietowl1246 22 дня назад
And the police are doing nothing. We live in a two tier society. If you’re wealthy and connected - the rules do not apply. They only apply to the little people. Makes me sick.
@rayH357
@rayH357 22 дня назад
Arrest, JAIL, Court, found GUILTY, Sentenced to LIFE, Stripped of assets, PRISON
@dorothyblair6741
@dorothyblair6741 21 день назад
If there was any real justice that would happen. But it won't.
@rayH357
@rayH357 21 день назад
@@dorothyblair6741 Im sure someone will be made scapegoat,the rest walk away as usual
@grateberk6435
@grateberk6435 19 дней назад
Why are we still using this same IT company to do anything?
@djsiuk
@djsiuk 22 дня назад
We need to get American Lawyers involved who will go for the jugular and get millions for each postmaster. The UK Judiciary and Lawyers are too involved/corrupt.
@noelfleming3567
@noelfleming3567 22 дня назад
All d lawyers and barristers are d same click as these top executives they all scurry around d same trough
@josephinedewar4469
@josephinedewar4469 22 дня назад
Just the same in America, my friend!!​@@noelfleming3567
@alexduff1783
@alexduff1783 22 дня назад
Glad Ron Warmington has leaked these recordings, not sure why he waited so long though.
@helmutreichart9081
@helmutreichart9081 22 дня назад
Another one for prison!
@Louisejames23
@Louisejames23 22 дня назад
Still beyond belief it took a tv programme to bring this to the public eye, what the hell were the people who were supposed to be looking into these things actually doing?
@Le-Veilleur-Silencieux
@Le-Veilleur-Silencieux 21 день назад
The more I hear these revelations my feeling of rage for criminal proceedings against PO management for malicious prosecutions and perjury. There's no way they can not do some serious jail time, be stripped of bonuses etc. And what kind of employer would really want them in their business now.
@burnsyboyy7534
@burnsyboyy7534 22 дня назад
I’m amazed the police have not stepped in yet, these people responsible including her should be behind bars.
@drewkoenen8334
@drewkoenen8334 22 дня назад
These people letting wrongful convictions happen need to spend an equal amount of prison time times 5
@susanmarch1661
@susanmarch1661 21 день назад
How can that many postmasters be criminals.
@solennethomas7365
@solennethomas7365 22 дня назад
The size of her house!
@nalanosbod1
@nalanosbod1 21 день назад
When Paula Vennels arrives at the pearly gates they are guaranteed to be locked!
@helenjob
@helenjob 22 дня назад
I'm interested to know how these recordings have come to light now. Why were they not available at the time they were made? It seems like there's a flood of information coming out of the post office these days and all of it damning as far as the management are concerned. If only the poor post masters had known of these recordings, their lives would be so different. Such cruel disregard by management.
@samiami9990
@samiami9990 22 дня назад
Amazing how these Post Office executives lied so easily and straight-laced in public on multiple occasions. If they can lie so easily, makes one wonder if that's the case with all other departments.
@catherinemartin6258
@catherinemartin6258 21 день назад
These two women needs charges brought against them .
@CanadaMatt
@CanadaMatt 22 дня назад
This whole thing becomes more sickening with every day that goes by, and every new misdeed that is revealed.
@onx99
@onx99 22 дня назад
Send all the people who knew about the injustice to jail. They all allowed the law yo be perverted for thier own financial gain. Absolutely disgusting, but im not surprised, this country has been turned to garbage by 15 years of Tories robbing the country and working class
@Eric-qm5xw
@Eric-qm5xw 22 дня назад
Prison for the post office management ..it’s that simple..f disgraceful.
@angrydee77
@angrydee77 21 день назад
""my father died not knowing the truth" the saddness that washed over me hearing those words. what can i say.... fury comes next and a rage i find hard to control. wtf has happened to these poor people, someone must pay, some kind of justice must be served... next is the calm emptiness of the truth. no prison sentence, fine of judgment can give these people back what they've lost. ""my father died not knowing the truth"
@conniejames8354
@conniejames8354 22 дня назад
Shameless
@ellendurkee5444
@ellendurkee5444 22 дня назад
its time for lawsuits against individuals..
@dorothyblair6741
@dorothyblair6741 21 день назад
Alan Bates said this week that if the State doesn't act then Vennells etc al will face lawsuits from their victims.
@jossym
@jossym 22 дня назад
You didn't think it would be possible, but it gets worse by the day.
@neilmckenzie1989
@neilmckenzie1989 21 день назад
Withheld information, didn’t act upon miscarriage of justice, lied to MP. All of these carry criminal repercussions… she should go to jail
@BrianAllan-hr5om
@BrianAllan-hr5om 22 дня назад
Is Fujitsu in for another government contract?
@ShakesSphere
@ShakesSphere 22 дня назад
All the swear words i know!
@sharonwyatt298
@sharonwyatt298 21 день назад
It makes my heart break for these poor people that have been so mistreated. I hope and pray they will get everything back that they ask for also that the PO and all who were involved lose what they have now, that they are persecuted stripped of assets and spend jail time .😢
@OneEyedDronie
@OneEyedDronie 22 дня назад
Any one else's blood boiling ???
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