Power Sound Audio PSA S3611 vs SVS PB16 Ultra | Subwoofer Comparison

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Today we begin a Series on the Power Sound Audio S3611 vs SVS PB16 Ultra by comparing the physical differences between the two subwoofers.
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@ebarbie5016 2 года назад

I've just upgraded my two SVS SB2000 (non pro) with two PSA S1512. I shit you not, but those subs will outperform even the SVS PB16 Ultra! They shake the hell out of my house!

@backinthegym7256 6 лет назад

You haven't forgotten about part 2 to this video have you??? It's been a while now! Keep up the good work 👍👊

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thanks for checking in. No it’s still on the list. Just trying to balance my content so that I have a variety of videos on the channel.

@majorxdf 5 лет назад

I have a PSA V1500 that I bought 3yrs ago. It sounds amazing. When I bought it, I looked at SVS and I felt you got more for a lot less going with PSA. It's a decision to this day I don't regret. Also, Tom Vodhanel at PSA gives AMAZING customer service!

@boodybandit 6 лет назад

Replying before even listening to your video. Cant help it. Been waiting on these to start. This is wild. The man who helped make SVS what it is today bringing the new thunder!!! Okay time to listen. Thanks for the video YM

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Haha thanks BB! Hope you enjoy it and the ones to come.

@vader3254 6 лет назад

This is a very difficult video series to make! Sealed vs ported, dual 18 vs single 16..... does it come down to sheer output, responsiveness, the tonal quality of the bass, music, movies, ease of use, looks, how they blend with your speakers... the list goes on. I’m very glad you are up to the challenge and can’t wait to see how you approach this comparison!! Excited for the next video!

@Youthman 6 лет назад

I agree Vader but I’ve always learned to work with what you’ve got so these are the two subs that I have to compare so let’s see if we can highlight a few differences between them so the consumer can better make a decision for themselves as to which is better for their setup.

@vader3254 6 лет назад

Youthman Should be good! Can’t wait to hear your thoughts

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thanks

@kevinholdner5702 5 лет назад

I agree as an apples to apples comparison, but the PB16 is a very popular sub and the PSA is an interesting piece as well. Given the price point of the two, I think it is interesting to compare one vs the other.

@Youthman 5 лет назад

It has definitely been a fun comparison and I believe both subs have unique strengths and attributes that the other does not have. It really comes down to what’s important to you.

@battousai412 5 лет назад

Did you compare the pv16 in the extended mode with a port plugged? Better comparison for the lower freq?

@jmd11185 3 года назад

Svs also has an intentionally steep roll-off. Probably has something to do with mitigating room gain.

@FitraHomestead 6 лет назад

I have the pb16 but really want to know how the PSA compares, which one do you prefer so far?

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

youthman is going to have his work cut out for him with this comparison. When he first told me he wanted something to compare with a pb16u I thought the V3611 would be the perfect choice. Both subs are large, powerful, and most important ported. The reason I say "most important" is that ported and sealed tend to have specific strengths and weaknesses that make direct comparisons difficult at best. It is sort of like comparing a jeep to a camaro. Both can perform very well...but some of their main performance metrics won't overlap fully compared to the other..:) But Youthman said his readers wanted to see him with the S3611 so we made that happen as soon as we could(once we caught up with back orders). So my advice to everyone would be...patience. I know from experience that trying to directly compare to VERY different subwoofer designs like this is going to have him scratching his head at times trying to figure out how to convey all his thoughts appropriately. If he still had the sb16u that would have been a bit easier for him. Two sealed designs, almost identically priced.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Well I don’t have a lot of initial thoughts as Yet but I do feel the SB16 vs S3611 wouldn’t have been much of a comparison in regards to depth and output. From what I’m hearing so far, the S3611 very well may have more output than the PB16 Ultra. Looking forward to my findings. Stay tuned.

@FitraHomestead 6 лет назад

@@supportpowersoundaudio6273 very diplomatic reply, thank you. Even though I ended up with pb16 deep down I am thinking, should I have gone for a sealed design. I will one day get one of your sealed subs to make the comparisons for my self and know what I like best. I know for a fact that this sub easily out does the sb16

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

Oh it would have been no contest in terms of clean output, I didn't mean to imply that..:) The S3611 would equal maybe three of the sb16u overall. But sealed tends to "scale" somewhat similar. Meaning a subwoofer than has DOUBLE the output capability than the competitor in say the 15-25hz range will also have double to triple the capabilities into the mid and upper bass as well. That would be the v3611 vs. the pb16u. With the S3611, you'll see have significantly more headroom(vs pb16u) in the mid and upper bass(equal to two or even THREE of the pb16u)..but under 35hz or that separation will dramatic shift. First to "even overall" and then maybe even to the pb16u having a small edge in a very narrow bandwidth. THAT is whats going to make this difficult for you. If you pop in any movie and watch a good portion(say 15 minutes or more) you'll get a good representation of the entire operating bandwidth of each product. In that case I think the differences will become obvious. But if you just loop 5-10 seconds clips that make have a VERY limited bandwidth represented---especially in the 15-30hz range---then it may be more challenging to decide which sounds better.

@nodoubt46able 6 лет назад

@@supportpowersoundaudio6273 you dont see svs on here already trying to take up for their subs do you ? i can hear it in your chat, your already making excuses for your product, if it falls short... but, shouldnt a sub with TWO, 18 inch drivers , and a more powerful amp , trounce a 16 inch, SINGLE , LESSER POWERED SUB ? what am i missing here?? man, just let the chips fall where they may..im sure you make a decent sub. btw, are your measurements on your website your own, or 3rd party ?

@hi-fihaven2257 6 лет назад

Two great subwoofers! Putting out some great information man! Awesome work on the comparison. Really like the finish on the S3611.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thank you Hi-Fo. You have always been a great encourager. Glad I’m providing value

@sidvicious3129 6 лет назад

Hi there Youthman, would you describe the SVS and the other sub as musical for just music only, hybrid for both or is one of them better at music than the other. The reason for asking is its hard matching any subs up with the following speakers, Magnepan, Martin Logan or Vandersteen. If the subs are not fast enough to keep up with these speakers the subs come across as sloppy and slow.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Hi sid, as I mentioned in the video, I have not done any AB comparison and have only had a few demos with the S3611. I will need more seat time with them to have an opinion on that.

@theartofshiroho5492 5 лет назад

Please can you do a PSA vs SVS for PB-3000 against v1510 or v1811 ? That would be amazingly useful

@simontshukudutshukudu865 5 лет назад

Hi youth man just wana ask witch of those monsters hits harder than the ather

@Youthman 5 лет назад

PSA hits way harder below 20Hz. It would take 4-5 PB16’s to reach the same dB levels.

@golfing22002 5 лет назад

Something seems strange. In your side by side demo, it appears that the PSA is definitely much less wide compared to the SVS PB16, but your specs say the PSO is 8 inches wider. I don't know if it's some kind of optical illusion or not, but it definitely appears that the PSA is the more narrow speaker width wise.

@Youthman 5 лет назад

Without re-watching the video, I believe someone commented something similar as I had the sub turned to where one woofer was facing the wall when the sub's dimensions on the website have the long side as the width, and not the depth. Hope that clears it up.

@cjt74 6 лет назад

Man I love SVS but that 7Hz in room response is incredible and I’m guessing will have many thinking twice.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

How low can you go....That’s what I want to find out.

@Sabot1313 5 лет назад

do you have any experience with the PSA S7201?

@Youthman 5 лет назад

No the only PSA sub I have heard is the S3611 that I reviewed

@Sabot1313 5 лет назад

Thank you for the reply. @@Youthman

@dalagnorak1986 6 лет назад

How’s PSA customer service and warranty? That’s one thing I love about SVS, need to get another SB16 eventually, dead spots suck. Fit and finish are a lot better on SVS also.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

I can’t answer any of those questions other than the customer service I have received from Tom (the owner). He is constantly available via Chat on their website and has been prompt to return my emails.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Nick with SVS has been incredibly great to work with as well answering any questions I have about their product. I have not had to use either customer service for a repair / replacement

@Agent-fg9ol 6 лет назад

Awwww man.... I literally can't wait for the next set of videos Youthman! 👍😀

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thank you Richard

@ourlittlecakery9177 6 лет назад

Awesome info Youthman. Love every video and can’t wait for the future videos. I highly appreciate all your hard and genuine work.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thank you so much.

@justonbrazda3846 6 лет назад

I believe the SVS tuning modes are as follows: Standard mode is 20 hz. All ports open Extended mode is 16 hz. One port plugged.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Hi Justin, take a look at the specs on their website - www.svsound.com/products/pb16-ultra Standard - 15Hz Extended - 13Hz Sealed - 14Hx

@nikad19 6 лет назад

I brought the umik-1 about the same time and also haven’t had a lot of time to play with it. I’m also interested in the DDRC-88A (Dirac) as a active crossover and bass management. Great videos 👍

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thanks. Yeah sadly I bought the UMIM-1 awhile back and used it once with a friend who is familiar with REW. I have a lot to learn

@POTE0831 6 лет назад

Great video. Have a question I have a denon x4400h trying to even out my speaker at 75db. Do I put master volume at max or around -30db

@Africker 5 лет назад

Please try out a Dayton UM18 4CF Sub and Cab Bundle from Parts Express. Requires a bit of DIY knowledge, but would be very interested to hear your opinion on one of those vs an SB16

@Youthman 5 лет назад

Unfortunately I’m not very “handy” when it comes to DIY stuff. Check out my friends channel Life of Bliss. He has some awesome DIY on his channel

@Africker 5 лет назад

@@Youthman Ok thanks, but if you ever get the chance to listen to one, I strongly recommend it

@morbus74 6 лет назад

Damn there's a huge difference in prices between US and Europe(Finland). In US that PB16 costs little less than 2200€ (dollars converted to €) and here in Finland i have to pay 3600€. I think that if i sell my R-115SW someday, i'll order that SVS from US.. Even with freight and taxes, it'll be cheaper..

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Yeah it’s unfortunate how much extra it cost you guys outside the US

@slvrfox12345 2 года назад

I was wondering why you have never done a review on the JL audio gotham v2 sub...to me one of the ultimate

@Youthman 2 года назад

There are literally hundreds of brands that I have not reviewed products. JL was well known in car Audio and were popular in home theater when Velodyne was on the scene. You rarely hear about their home theater products any more.

@slvrfox12345 2 года назад

@@Youthman I appreciate your reply youthman. The price now of the JL gotham is ridiculous, however the design, performance, fit and finish are 2nd to none . Yes you could buy 6 svs pb ultras for the price of a Gotham, but that stuff from other companies does hold a candle to high beautiful the Gotham looks in a living room

@MaddDawg92 6 лет назад

A better price comparison would be the PSA V3611 vs SVS PB16 ultra, let's see that next please!

@Youthman 6 лет назад

That is up to Tom. I would be glad to review the V3611

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Neo Haha. I’m not sure my house could handle Dual S7201’s 😀

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Neo Too funny!

@spidermonkey7999 5 лет назад

Josh Furlanis I have the v3611 in my system. Absolutely the best sub I’ve ever owned. I had the 16 ultra before it and hands down v3611 is the way to go.

@Youthman 5 лет назад

I could see that as the S3611 outperformed the PB16 in certain aspects.

@JC-bl9bo 6 лет назад

Good God the weight! I don't know if I'd even want to deal with subs this heavy.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

They are extremely heavy but realistically, how many times would you move it? Once?

@lusly258 6 лет назад

body on frame I agree, I would never want to deal with it, not worth it for me. I love my Svs SB 2000 s

@mikan004 5 лет назад

What is the music for this video?

@Youthman 5 лет назад

It will be in the description if I included it.

@lesmatthews459 5 лет назад

I always thought the SVS was the champ. But if you skip the fancy piano gloss and remote and app (non of which I care about), I would choose the PSA hands down.

@Youthman 5 лет назад

They certainly seem to be a great competitor

@MancaveCentral1 6 лет назад

Demoing and testing massive subs like those must be tough and daunting.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

It's a lot of work (even just moving them around) but it's a lot of fun and I really enjoy providing the content for everyone because I realize very few people get the opportunity to compare certain speakers, subs or receivers in their home.

@lusly258 6 лет назад

Wookie Groomer agreed, I have the tiny Svs dual sb 2000 s and they are plenty for me, yes they are better with music 🎵, very excellent, and accurate bass with music, and ok with movies 🎥, too, if I turn them up, my pictures will fall off the wall, but why would I?. When King Kong put his fist 👊 down in the movie 🎥 I felt it through my whole being, so, why do you guys need more? Anyway, good for u, I guess

@Youthman 6 лет назад

To answer why do we need more, is about headroom. Both a Hyundai and a Ferrari will go 90mph. One will do it at max capacity, straining to get there while the other will get there with authority, won’t break a sweat and only be in 2nd gear while doing so.

@SoundSpectrum 6 лет назад

great video! I am currently waiting on a set of PSA V3611's. I was on the fence with the PB-16 Ultra's as I currently have two PB-13's. Im looking for a little more output and something that can dig down pretty low. From what I am seeing for specs and data the PSA's will have about 3-6db more output. Will have to see once I get them and do some testing. Really interested to see where the PSA S3611 holds up against the SVS. Keep up the great work!

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thanks! And congrats on the pair of V3611! Please let me know what you think of them. I have a feeling they are going to put a ridiculously huge smile on your face. The S3611 provide PLENTY of output and depth in my room. Dual V3611....oh yeah 😀

@chriswelljack4910 6 лет назад

I always wanted to ask u how you got that name youthman i know only caribbean people say youthman

@matthewgarcia1499 5 лет назад

Chriswell Jack exactly so! I’m from Trinidad and dais we thing dey self

@Youthman 5 лет назад

Hi Chriswell. I have been a Youth Pastor for the past 22 years working with students from 6th - 12th grade.

@Youthman 5 лет назад

So what do Carribeans refer to as a Youthman?

@chriswelljack4910 5 лет назад

@@Youthman an older person would call a boy youth or youthman

@chriswelljack4910 5 лет назад

Used most times if you dont know the person name

@pharoahamunra 6 лет назад

the finish of the 3611.reminds me of a spray in bed liner.

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

It is similar in durability but a much more fine texture. If anyone wants to see close up shots please email me at support@powersoundaudio.com or pop into chat at your convenience. We recently invested in a new shop location so we can finish all of our cabinets in house now. It was a significant investment to be sure but keeping everything made in USA is very important to us.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

I have some nice JBL Pro speakers at our church. They have lots of output but aren’t refined or controlled. I don’t see the S3611 being similar to the sound of Pro Audio subs. Two completely different purposes.

@shanepassafaro4339 5 лет назад

@PSA any chances of a piano gloss black finish?

@DowneastaaAPO 6 лет назад

Great Video and love your shirt!

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thank you kindly

@beastscinema3964 6 лет назад

So technically it's really a 15 inch subwoofer not a 16 inch subwoofer for SVS for the Ultras interestin🤔 been doing research on the r-115sw klipsch subs I think they'll play nice with each other get rid of the paradigms I'm put 2 r115sw subs in the rear and run them at 18 Hertz and run the front 16 Ultras Subs at 15 Hertz or 13 Hertz what do you think Michael what's your opinion on that think it's a good idea by the way another great video love the detail on both of them that you did on the video excellent👌

@voiceofreason9238 6 лет назад

It's bigger than a 15" driver so rounding up is reasonable IMO.

@chriswelljack4910 6 лет назад

So why 15.5 equal 15 but not 16 i guess its a 15.5 woofer

@beastscinema3964 6 лет назад

@@chriswelljack4910 I did measure my friends p b 4000 it's a 13.5 sub kind of strange that SVS decided to call it an ultra 16 did the measurements myself on it it's a 15.5 they should have called it an ultra 15 or better pb6000 lol😁

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Nel...I will know more soon

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

If you are going by typical cone area it is the same size as a average 15 inch driver. Going by the "frame" I really have no idea because no one in the industry uses the frame to determine cone size. That would be like saying my "350 cu-in engine" is now a "400 cu-in engine after I added a bigger air cleaner..:)

@mike53800 6 лет назад

Room EQ is good but there’s nothing like your ears. To hear what sounds best

@voiceofreason9238 6 лет назад

What's "best" is different to different people. Youthman always gives us his honest opinion and his room measurements will provide data to help to explain what he is hearing.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Hi Miguel, the reason for the measurements is there are some that want to hear personal opinions while others like to see "data". As Voice has mentioned, I will gladly provide both.

@voiceofreason9238 6 лет назад

That is well said Youthman. I am not a big charts and graphs guy myself but there are people who are and I respect that. I like it that as your channel has grown, you are also growing as a reviewer. As a fan and a viewer of your channel it helps me to grow along with you on your journey.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thanks Voice. I’m continually learning and like you said, I want to invite others to join me in my journey

@sudd3660 6 лет назад

your ears are best to judge room eq, people have different ears and hearing. a microphone is not very useful. its very easy to find a frequency generator online and with a slider that allows you to move the frequency around to even out the volume at listening position, to use your own ears is the end result. now you just need a eq software that lets you set any frequency and set the volume so that it sounds flat to you. a microphone don't replace your ears.

@valuvivao3434 5 лет назад

The SVS is the best... but thanks for your video information two thumbs up..

@Youthman 5 лет назад

Thanks. Both are indeed great subs. I own Dual PB16’s but am impressed with the performance of the S3611

@AGC828 6 лет назад

Being that the PSA is "Dual opposing" I guess that means you'd place it at the mid-point of a side wall. Vs. front and/or back walls with the SVS ultra if you had 2 or 4 of them? In addition to the scientific data with REW please pop in a few 4k Blurays you know well and give us your impressions. I think how they sound playing actual listening material matters more than what's measured. It's like 0-60 MPH and 1/4 speed testing for cars...means little for people who will only be driving these cars on city streets (e.g. stoplight to stoplight, gridlock, suburbia). Those numbers just sell cars and magazines.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thanks Anderson. I have never been one for looking at charts and graphs but I realize that there are plenty of guys on this channel that are into that so I’m trying to provide content that will be beneficial to both preferences. I myself am more interested in what I hear than what I see on a graph but that’s just me

@W.M.611 6 лет назад

I can see what you 're saying guys. But think of this: you can have the finest amps and speakers, but when everything works together it can sound like crap. REW is there to let you identify what the problem areas are. REW can be used to tune the whole system, in a way that every component sounds at its best. Buying a UMIK 1 and learning how to use REW is, by far, my best audio investment.

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

The driver orientation on subwoofers with multiple active(or passive) radiators usually won't have much effect on things. The actual placement of the sub in the room will be much more influential in that regard. Once you have a good position picked out for the subwoofer I usually suggest orienting it for connection convenience first.(or decor preference).

@Youthman 6 лет назад

I agree what you are saying Wim which is why I purchased a UMiK-1. I’m just saying I don’t enjoy that sort of thing, measuring, looking at charts, tweaking etc. that’s just me.

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

Don't think of measurements replacing any of your subjective thoughts. I agree with you there. For every one person I have coming into "chat" asking about a new measurement I have 99 saying "I don't know what all those squiggly lines mean"..:) What I have found most valuable with measurements is how they allow me to correlate what I'm hearing to what the system is really doing. Something sounds a little "tighter" or "faster"...I can go to the measurements and find out *exactly* why. If I can hear it and the measurements don't show it...I'm measuring the wrong thing..:) Also, there's a 1001 and 1 things you can measure(probably more). But I would start with the basics. Perhaps only the FR, nothing more. Get the measurement system calibrated(which in itself can be a huge PIA) and up and running so you get repeatable results. And then, always change ONE variable. For example, get a basic FR of the subs + the center channel. Then go into the preamp and experiment with different delays for the main 3 speakers and see how that changes the FR at the crossover point. It's much better to get three measurements right(and that they are repeatable) then to rush thru it all and have 30 you aren't 100% sure of..:)

@rameshkannanpavithra3548 6 лет назад

That's amazing video ...all credit's go for youthman....i'm waiting next video ....thanks ....

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thank you for the kind words

@Resyntheses 6 лет назад

How long are you going to drag this out? Lol You should get a hold of the Monolith 15" and see how it performs in your setup. You can get two for the price of one PB-16

@Youthman 6 лет назад

I could go faster if it didn’t take me 5-6hrs to make each video, while balancing a full-time job, a home business and a family of 6. 😀

@Resyntheses 6 лет назад

@i Draw when did I say he owes me something? Lol. I was watching the video thinking it was about to go into some sound demos and then it ended and I became sad.

@yournightmare9999 6 лет назад

@@Resyntheses i draw read only without understanding that's only happens if you finish kindergarten school 😒

@boodybandit 6 лет назад

@i Draw Chill bud. He is just excited to hear youthmans opinion. I am too. But youthmans reasoning is why I wont start a channel. I am too into gaming and adding to my setups. Too lazy to make videos n edit so I rely on peeps like youthman willing to take the time to do it. I wish he lived closer so he could come listen to my setups. I would love to hear his impressions and get his feedback.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

No worries guys...I did not take offense to it as I noticed the "Lol". As a side note, I am quite amazed at comments of people that are frustrated because there is no sound demo when all of my videos that have audio demos have the words "Audio Demo" or "Bass Demo" in the title and description and I even stated at 1:04 what this video was for ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DPfSht4gMug.html which was looking at the physical size and specs. I do my best to let people know what to expect in the video so as to not waste their time if that is not what they are looking for. Thanks for watching.

@MrAlexH9121 5 лет назад

svs ein the looks but psa is an amazing piece tho, still I love my pb 4000 and the driver alone is just massive and cant be broken same with the cabinet and amp

@Youthman 5 лет назад

Two powerhouse subs for sure

@rushgush 6 лет назад

if u have the money just contact funk audio, nathan will make anything for you that will suit your room if you don’t see anything you like that he already has. his sealed 24 inch sub is a monster if you have the dough.

@antonioalvin2067 6 лет назад

your video are awesome..! good work

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thank you kindly. Another one coming today at 2PM EST

@sudd3660 6 лет назад

feels like the measurement of the woofers are telling us that the spec sheets are optimistic. i was sure when i was younger that these kind of numbers was more correct......

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

Industry standard is to take the cone plus 1/3rd to 1/2 of the surround. The reason why you only want to take a fraction of the surround is because that is all that is moving enough to "displace" enough air to be considered part of the cone. Our 18inch driver is about 14.75" wide using this (cone + half surround) method. Which is pretty much in line with most "18 inch" drivers out there. A little smaller than a few, a little bigger than a few. Our 15" driver is about 12.75" wide using the same(cone + half surround) which, again, is pretty much average for a 15" cone size. There are a couple a LITTLE bigger, a couple a bit smaller. But we're talking small fractions of an inch for the most part. The svs "16 inch" driver is the same size as an industry standard 15 inch driver using this standard measurement method. you can see more in-depth measurements here www.avforums.com/threads/svs-16-ultra-series.2055949/page-3#post-24405978 You can also see comments comparing the 16" driver to industry standard 15 inch drivers with pretty much identical cone areas in the same link(seaton submersive sub)

@sudd3660 6 лет назад

ah well, just a feeling i had, i was sure when i measure it decades ago it was closer what i imagine 16" woofer should measure. i thought a 16" woofer should measure 16" outer edge of around diameter. if you take svs woofer and measure cone plus half surround(x2) its only 10"??? in this video it looks like they use outside mounting diameter. but i care most about cone area, since more excursion is more distortion i rather have small surround and more cone area and have bigger woofer or more of them to compensate.

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

the pb16 driver? No. It is as I described above and what you can see in the link. ***Our 15" driver is about 12.75" wide using the same(cone + half surround) which, again, is pretty much average for a 15" cone size. There are a couple a LITTLE bigger, a couple a bit smaller. But we're talking small fractions of an inch for the most part. The svs "16 inch" driver is the same size as an industry standard 15 inch driver using this standard measurement method.*** So about 12.75" using cone + half surround method.

@schlagboy 6 лет назад

From my experience, the measurement of a driver has always matched up to the TOTAL diameter of the basket. To me, the PSA is correct with their driver measurement, while the SVS should be advertised as a 15.5" driver. Support Power Sound Audio has a much better explanation of the industry standard. As a consumer though, if I go out and buy a subwoofer that claims to be a certain measurement, it should be that measurement. Anything less makes me feel that I am a victim of false advertisement.

@paulohenriquedasilva8322 6 лет назад

Muito legal esta comparação, os 2 subwoofer são bem grandes e fortes uma sugestão.. Já pensou em fazer um unboxing do mkvll supernova 15 earthquake sound seria fantástico porque é um produto difícil de se ver em canais de audio para home theater abraço

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Hi Paulo, that sub looks awesome. Would love to review it sometime.

@rushikeshkhairnar845 5 лет назад

SVS PB16 costs like ₹350K (5000$). It costs as much as a car here. Every home theater component over here costs twice as much as US. Can't see anything getting cheaper any soon

@Youthman 5 лет назад

I know. That really stinks for those outside the US

@krsalilkr 5 лет назад

Nice job brother.

@Youthman 5 лет назад

Thank you

@lusly258 6 лет назад

Youthman, I don’t mean to criticize, but sometimes you don’t follow up, the anthem receiver, you were going to let us know how it was , and is, spec wise, and you never have follow up videos, that was three months ago. That’s why I stopped watching your stuff. I thought I would see if you got organized, but nothing has changed. I like follow up videos a lot

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Hi Lu, you must have missed the video when you stopped following the channel because I posted it 3 weeks ago 👍. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9xjfKsHsbjM.html Not a matter of organization, it’s a matter of trying to balance a full-time job, a home business, a family of six and make RU-vid videos for you guys. As much as I love making content for your enjoyment, those other three priorities have to come first.

@conduit242 8 месяцев назад

TLDR; 2 3”’s don’t equal 8”

@blueribb99 6 лет назад

The width and depth measurements are reversed on the PSA Sub

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

On our S3611 we consider it oriented "normally" with the amp plate on the rear baffle and the twin 18 inch drivers firing left and right (from the seating). Youthman oriented it 90 degree from there. So his WIDTH and DEPTH measurements are switched..:)

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Hi Glenn...I took the measurements directly from www.powersoundaudio.com/products/S3611

@blueribb99 6 лет назад

That makes sense. The way they are shown side by side in this video makes the measurements confusing.

@chriswelljack4910 6 лет назад

Yea lol i was looking at it

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Sorry about that guys.😀

@chriswelljack4910 6 лет назад

Come on youthman lets do this lol

@Youthman 6 лет назад

😂😂😂

@DrayClay 6 лет назад

Nice

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Thanks

@Z22-m5o 6 лет назад

Based on looks alone SVS definitely wins ! Having the phone app is a nice feature also.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

100%.

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

I can't argue with the finish options..:) We are very proud to keep all cabinet production in Ohio. But at the same time we have enough experience working with china to understand they can provide cabinets at "pennies on the dollar" in these scenarios too. We get emails from china weekly telling us how much we can save by letting them take all of our production from Ohio. Trust me, it can be tempting. When all of our direct competition is made in china(like svs) it's a challenge to be sure.

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

@@m.r.8247 Hello m.r. Are their better performing phones made in the USA at less cost? If not, than your comparison isn't accurate . But if you like svs that is fine, they offer good value too. Some prefer supporting a USA made product, others prefer supporting china products. There's plenty of good reasons for both. Just go with what you feel is best for your application.

@philipgana9913 6 лет назад

personally, I prefer everything about the PSA to the SVS.In any case, it is a man's world. If u know what I'm talking about 😠😠😠😠😈😈

@lkjyuiop1987 4 года назад

If they are brand new they probably are not even broke in I want the one with 2 18s.

@Youthman 4 года назад

This is what I upgraded to - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ikNZuUhjP6w.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Oj7gYi5i-aI.html

@vwr32jeep 6 лет назад

S3611 is 20” W x 28” D. Not 28” W x 20” D as stated in video. There. Now I’ll be able to sleep.💤

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Actually, I was correct since the normal orientation of this sub is with the drivers running parallel with your wall and the amp plate on the back. Sleep well. 👍

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Dimensions are shown on their website - www.powersoundaudio.com/products/S3611

@vwr32jeep 6 лет назад

Youthman Hang on.. I’m putting together a rebuttal.

@vwr32jeep 6 лет назад

Youthman Ok. You’re not off the hook yet. In my defense, I went by your description in the video and the orientation of the sub for comparison. At about 2:48, you state that the sub has an 18” driver “in the front”, and an 18” driver “in the back”. The website lists these drivers as “side firing”, not front and rear. Calling them front and rear drivers, and having them face that direction in the side-by-side comparison, created the confusion. For review purposes, they should be oriented as they’d be viewed in the room. THEN, the 28” width description would make sense. Also, orienting the s3611 in its correct position next to the SVS could give a strong visual for some viewers who might appreciate a sub that doesn’t protrude as far into the room. There. 😴💤

@Youthman 6 лет назад

All valid points. Appreciate you correcting me. You would make a great lawyer. 😀 The reason I have them facing the same direction is so I can compare driver sizes side by side. I should add in the next video that the sub can be oriented either direction as Tom has shared it will have very little, if any, impact on performance. In my setup, if I were to purchase it, the sub would be directly behind my 150” AT Screen and would need to be oriented with one driver facing the front wall and one driver facing the screen.

@Angelchrom3 5 лет назад

stop talking with your hands man, no matter what you´ve learned its professionell. its not. nothing is more unauthentic than that

@Youthman 5 лет назад

That's interesting as it appears you have bought into a myth. Here is what FORBES has to say (you know...the media company that studies millionaires, billionaires and other successful people). "There is a lot of misinformation about this subject. Someone somewhere told speakers that they should not gesture with their hands - that they would seem unprofessional - and somehow this myth caught on. Unfortunately, this is the worst advice any speaker can ever receive. Confident, comfortable people always speak while gesturing with their hands. Nervous people rarely ever move their hands. If you want to appear to be confident and comfortable, move your hands. When you stop moving your hands, your body also moves less, creating a more boring visual experience for your audience." www.forbes.com/sites/tjwalker/2011/05/09/what-do-i-do-with-my-hands-media-training/#64c272a5528c www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/talking-with-hands-gestures_us_56afcfaae4b0b8d7c230414e I have always believed that intelligent people are learners. Take a read...you might just learn something new. As a side note....you misspelled "professional". Have a nice day.

@Angelchrom3 5 лет назад

@@Youthman ok, talk with your hands and become a billionar -.- what do you think why i am make a comment that critisises this when its all fine?! look a few yt videos, go out and talk with people and decide on your own. btw fails of correct writing you can retain. cheers!

@pederolsen2040 5 лет назад

Hey, you should look at bowers and wilkins’s subwoofers. They are AMAZING

@Youthman 5 лет назад

I have not heard back from B&W. Hardest part with larger companies is actually getting in touch with their Marketing adept.

@bennyt.778 5 лет назад

@ Peder. Can't wait here either to see him review B&W beasts, honestly!!

@yournightmare9999 6 лет назад

to be continued........😩

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Haha This isn’t a Netflix Original where I can crank out all of the videos on release date. Haha. If that were the case, it would be 2019 before you got any content 😀

@yournightmare9999 6 лет назад

@@Youthman 😁

@lovejago 6 лет назад

I would look on the back side of the PSA S3611. you might see a Passive Radiator im sure its not a Driver!!

@Youthman 6 лет назад

It’s definitely not a passive radiator. I mention front and back but in most applications, you will have the drivers side firing parallel with your walls and the amp plate facing the wall.

@rafaelperez127 2 года назад

hi goods

@lusly258 6 лет назад

I like the Svs wayyy better

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Nothing wrong with that. Which PSA subs have you heard?

@supportpowersoundaudio6273 6 лет назад

@Neo Hi neo, which model svs and which model PSA subwoofers do you have in your room? Also, how large is the room and what type of system integration features are implemented(audyssey for example)?

@Youthman 6 лет назад

The S7201 is sealed. The V3611 might be a good fit. The S3611 that I’m reviewing has a ridiculous amount of output so I would think the V3611 would have even more.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Your sleep is more important than my testing haha

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Congrats! Dual S3611 are going to rock your face off! Let me know how you like them

@iwasteuseraccounts 6 лет назад

Did your other video get deleted? 😪 All that work.

@Youthman 6 лет назад

Did what get deleted? I have 3 videos on them on my channel and linked to them in the card in the video - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c5RG4hAnGWE.html