Powerboy Supergirl's Abusive Boyfriend | Was He A Wasted Character?

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Supergirl has had a variety of romantic interests pass through her world over at DC Comics. One such character was Power Boy. Power Boy was a blip in the DC Universe timeliness whose main contribution was as a horrible boyfriend for Kara. At the end of his storyline he was abruptly granted a complex backstory and interesting power set. Was his character a missed opportunity for other stories? Was the storyline as told handled well? Just why did he have a Power Girl chest window costume? We chat all that and more here on Casually Comics.
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@CasuallyComics 2 года назад

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@someoneimsure 2 года назад

Power Boy's name... should be Tim On a serious note, I have no idea what to name him. Something beginning with a harsh consonant like D or K. Donald? Kevin?

@WannabeWryter 2 года назад

@@someoneimsure Kara "What's your name?" Powerboy "Powerboy" Kara "No your real name, like Kara or Kal-el" Power Boy "Power Boy, I was an Apokalypse Orphan, wasn't ever given one, I was just guy who survived and Guy who hit harder" Kara " Oh ... that's explains alot actually. Alright, how about Guy, Guy ... Powers, Guy Powers" Power Boy "Guy Powers ... I love it, and You" Kara "Stop it"

@KennyKissKiss 2 года назад

Beau Zor and the power window

@killmongermyhero1169 2 года назад

I'm just here for Sasha

@elonmartin3294 2 года назад

Great to see you Sasha 😍 but is this connected to the other station or your own?? Happy holidays

@GenerationWest 2 года назад

Didn't realize Powerboy didn't have a actual name. I shall dub him.. "Kyle", because he looks like he punches walls regularly.

@charlottehelenschrockrober7082 2 года назад

I'll admit I was thinking Kyle too. But now I also wanna see Clark have a jerk of a cousin named Ky'el

@GenerationWest 2 года назад

@@charlottehelenschrockrober7082 I was going to call him "Ky-El", then thought "Wait, he's not Kryptonian, Daxamite or related to the House of El... Also he's from Apokolips, and names like "Scott" exist there lol

@charlottehelenschrockrober7082 2 года назад

@@GenerationWest Ha! Had basically the same thought process when the name popped in my head too.

@Necronamakhan 2 года назад

I say his name is Josh. There are not that many comic book characters named Josh. Unlike IRL where I know 6 Joshs. Josh Goodness? Josh Godfrey? To give him a connect to a Darkseid minion...

@KaBoomStock 2 года назад

Came here to say this. Pleased to see someone else concurs.

@tarmaque 2 года назад

Clearly Power Boy's name is "Chad."

@vernonhampton5863 2 года назад

... man, I can't argue with this.

@dustinmaxwell259 2 года назад

I thought that was Nightwing's nickname.

@tarmaque 2 года назад

@@dustinmaxwell259 Yeah, well, 63 people disagree with you (at the time of recording.)

@dustinmaxwell259 2 года назад

Well you have a 4 day lead.

@GabePuratekuta Год назад

Chad Simper.

@Ridiculous__Nicholas 2 года назад

“Bold claim powerboy, you’re going up against the day her planet exploded” That made me laugh so hard.

@undetestable1 2 года назад

The easiest way to write around the "redeeming an abuser" storyline is have him try to get back together with supergirl while he is in the process of redeeming himself then have her reject him. You have to have her explicitly explain why them being together is not a good idea then have him respect that. You could even have him start to form a relationship with someone else but be afraid he will fall into the same habits. Also let Supergirl be angry with him; force him to live with her anger. His backstory is compelling and his powers somewhat unique I'd love to read more about him.

@BThings 2 года назад

I like this idea. How does one go on living after doing awful things and _knowing_ that they were awful?

@MM-hf6om 2 года назад

Thats not going to work. Nothing they did saved hank pym . Hes so associated with it that to be safe the mcu went with scot lang

@lemonade_011 2 года назад

@@BThings They get therapy sometimes

@jamesayewale5695 2 года назад

@@MM-hf6om Tbf, hank pym isn't as despised as he used to be. And it doesn't really help that he made Ultron too lol

@harlannguyen4048 2 года назад

Also helps that in the MCU, the abuser storyline was never touched upon.

@kibcubed 2 года назад

If Power Boy can absorb emotion and then turn these emotions into constructs and blasts, and these emotions are colour coded, does that basically make him a human power ring? Because then the implications would be huge. It would have been an incredibly interesting thing to have his creation linked to the Lantern Corps in some way. Imagine a story line where Powerboy is a the keystone to a complex secret history linking Apokalips, Krypton and Oa. Or not, I'm just spit-balling here 🤷🏾‍♂️

@jimiakeju6778 2 года назад

Even more ways that he's wasted potential. A storyline like that sounds awesome.

@thebandwagonfanpodcast 2 года назад

That would be a great use for him. However, it would be a steep hill on which to carry his character for people to want him around. Everyone surrounding this story, from the writing to the art, just feels kinda gross.

@varto07 2 года назад

Damn, that would be really cool. There are lot of possibilities for a character like that.

@KSSKAYDEE Год назад

Facts g giving lil time

@theblocksays Год назад

Would have been a far more interesting reveal to his absence to see him chained up a part of the Indigo Tribe, instead of , y'know, unceremoniously killed off by stupid Sons of Trigon. AKA make him a "Titans Red Shirt".

@rmcdudmk212 2 года назад

Power boy was a character they used for a specific storyline and once his role was over they had nothing to do with a character that most people hated.

@briangressett902 2 года назад

I was distraught by this character when he came out because my main character in the MMORPG I played/play in City of Heroes is PowerLad.

@nerdking1019 2 года назад

Yo you play City Of Heroes

@Taliysin 2 года назад

I thought I was the only one… it was my first mmorpg

@briangressett902 2 года назад

I love COH. Happiest thing this year is playing COH again.

@pqcowboychanel 2 года назад

@@briangressett902 where can I get “city of hero’s” and what is it?

@michaelthomas5433 2 года назад

A tiny sliver of hope has been glimpsed with the announcement of a possible Marvel MMO with some City of Heroes devs working on it.

@ronaldlennier86 2 года назад

I do find that a character named "boomer jr." Is in fact, a millenial, really funny, probably more then it should

@Welles009 2 года назад

I love that Sasha was able find a top with a chest window for this video.

@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011 2 года назад

WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT TYPE OF TOP?

@homosexualamphibian359 2 года назад

@@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011 Keyhole sweaters are one name I know of

@mynardomacaraig2697 2 года назад

If Powerboy can survive a giant pencil through his head, then he can probably survive being impaled on a tree. But the DC creative team just didn't know what to do with him so they killed him off.

@elizabethw.6154 2 года назад

I like the idea of his empath powers along with essentially being tortured/alien as an orphan making him unbalanced and not truly knowing the right way to approach healthy relationships as we see it. It wouldn't excuse his full physical abuse, I think it would give him a more tragic and relatable backstory that could potentially be grown from. It would be a total angsty perhaps whump kind of path that he could have (perhaps ultimately having to sacrifice most, if not all, of himself to kind of find balance/peace/understanding,) but I think it could been interesting, instead just making him a flat character like they did... P.S. I do like his costume, but I'm more so a sucker for his hair 😉.

@abiwonkenabi7027 2 года назад

An empath who is also a villain or at least an antagonist is something pretty unique. It could have been interesting to see how that could potentially go. I think there are ways to redeem characters like this; allow Super Girl to be angry but also give Powerboy the opportunity to respect a choice she makes. Too bad they didn't do more with these ideas.

@piotyrholbion 2 года назад

I feel like his empath powers gave him an out in a way, if they had him get help dealing with his powers and such you can weave a story of redemption that starts with him blaming his powers and his up bringing and ends with him realizing that while they were a factor they aren't an excuse

@aiursurvivor 2 года назад

Sounds like they missed out on turning him into a reoccuring villain for her full of "we aren't so different you and I" speaches and him doing heinous things to make her a better person.

@mysteriiis 2 года назад

This. Lean into the Nice Guy angle.

@micah459 2 года назад

Dang, after watching this video I see why you said he's waisted potential. He has a nice backstory and his powers could easily be used as a reason why he's mentally unstable. I personally think people can change and should be given a second chance depending on what they did. Powerboy seems to only have been abusive once so he deserves a second chance

@scarletscreamqueen284 2 года назад

I do think he had a lot of potential, but after this, if they DO bring him back, I would hate if they have him and Supergirl be a thing again…ever 😭

@micah459 2 года назад

@@scarletscreamqueen284 He doesn't have to be with her. He could honestly go through struggle before becoming a good person and hero. After that he could date someone

@sboinkthelegday3892 2 года назад

That whole JSA secion of DC was more of a mural of caricatures, than a way to tell good stories. Power Girl is like an icon, of specifically becoming a different person in order to grow up, in relation to Supergirl. It kinda makes sense there would be this storyline of Powerboy as an external representation of that. The same story can, and has been, pretty much told with PG and Psycho-Pirate, but this is the same myth from the angle of keeping Supergirl as her more adolescent self. Not that I want to read this teenage drama shlock. Especially from the angle of, hey, we have a SUPERHUMAN who we need to prop up as yet another poor innocent girl, so let's create this retelling of how the MANS always ruin things for women. It absolutely makes sense though, and I like that when they do it with Power Girl with the empathetic aspect being completely internalized. In some way Powerboy is the human representation of the boob window, the attitude that PG is just a pair of tits, which IS the reason she has the boob window, canonically. Very poorly executed and explained but that's what it boils down to, not having a role as a hero because immediately in the absence of a male hero, and villain to fridge the damsel, any story jsut becomes about how the man is always the next worst thing that happens to a woman. It can adn WILL come down to a story where the man is bad for leaving the toilet seat up. Even these emotional fits need these male caricatures like Psycho-Pirate or Powerboy to drive the point home in a way that wouldn't turn the audience off compeltely, it can never be jsut about a woman simply ahving a problem and fixing that problem, in and of herself, let alone as a hero doing it for others.

@WannabeWryter 2 года назад

I'd use him again, either either supergirl or just in general. He seems like a fun charcter whose potential was wasted. Not everyone from Apokalypse can be Mister Miracle's, Big Barda's and Orion's. Mistakes happen.

@Aries_5916 2 года назад

@@WannabeWryter Orion wasn't raised on apocalypse though he was raised with the new gods on New Genesis with highfather after him and darkseid exchanged children

@godemperorcarlo 2 года назад

Supergirl has a lot of abusive boyfriends including her horse. You'd have to be more specific. All kidding aside it is a reccuring thing her writers love to play with like how all women associated with Logan eventually die.

@BrandonVout 2 года назад

At least she never dated Lex Luthor, unlike Matrix Supergirl.

@godemperorcarlo 2 года назад

@@BrandonVout Are we certain she never dated Lex? Lots of pretty wacky stuff happened in the silver age. See Horse. In the Modern Era she has both became one of Darkseid's Furies and a Red Lantern. So who's to say what she did in her bad girl phase?

@painvillegaming4119 2 года назад

@@godemperorcarlo please don’t put that image in my head

@godemperorcarlo 2 года назад

@@painvillegaming4119 which one specifically are you referring to? Hey not my fault Supergirl writers are weird. As an aside I thought she looked pretty hot as a Fury of Darkseid. Wasn't a big fan of her Infected Look but the story was sound.

@painvillegaming4119 2 года назад

@@godemperorcarlo the story was good And I am talking with the dating lex thing Like why is that a thing

@tomorrow4eva 2 года назад

I would have liked to see a more subtle abusive relationship, where Kara is caught between his good points, her father’s poor parenting, and other people liking him. It would provide long term relationship drama, the learning Earth together thing, and could be really interesting to clock his reaction to her assassin mission. If he’s from Apocalypse, I can see him being supportive of the kill Kal El mission, because who doesn’t get the odd assassination mission? His emotion powers would have been interesting to play with too.

@ravenwilder4099 Год назад

They kinda did that with Matrix Supergirl and their relationship with Lex Luthor.

@davantebarbain3216 2 года назад

not gonna lie after doing a breif read up on him id say that adressing his upbringing and how his empathic powers plays into his mental start would be a great way to bring him back while also adressing the whole supergirl situation while playing with the idea of how he is an empathic withless control over how the emotions he absorb affects him making him sway from calm and cool headed to irrational and hot-headed make him be the example of the cost and consequences of having empathetic powers on a scale of his and how it can blur not only the emotional lines of him and other characters but also how it can blurr the mental lines of both parties

@hollowichigo24x 2 года назад

They’re doing things with kryptonians in current comics and the talk about adopted families and expanding the house of El…maybe power boy could get a redeeming with this great concept maybe being around good people could help him realize he messed up and make a change for the better

@CovenantD 2 года назад

This was so hard to read. Ever heard of a run-on sentence?

@davantebarbain3216 2 года назад

@@CovenantD bruh i dont know what your reading this on by i typed this on my phone while shitting

@garfeld625 2 года назад

Dang, Sasha's analyses are always so complete. Right when I am ready to add my thoughts, she mentions exactly what I am thinkings and more. I hope you read this Sasha because I just want to say that you are incredible. I listen to other comic channels, and you are by far my favorite! I wish you nothing but youtube success, your quality of videos has earned it

@savybeanie 2 года назад

Yep Me: *theorizes brings a cool idea* Sasha: *does that and more* Me: guess i didn't really need to do that...

@BrandonVout 2 года назад

I've waited ages for you to cover this story. I was beginning to worry it would never happen. Personally, I'm a fan of not throwing away old characters unless they're out of potential stories or there are more stories to tell from their death than life. I have a similar outlook on redemption arcs. Redeem them if you've exhausted every avenue as a villain, or if their redemption and face turn would lead to better stories. In Power Boy's case, there wasn't much left to do with him as an abusive superhero other than more of the same, but there was a lot to explore on the front of his powers giving him emotional instability and how untreated mental illness (and an abusive upbringing) can lead to someone becoming abusive to those they care for. Comic writers give up too easily. I want writers to take everyone hating a character as a challenge.

@Luke-fu5co 2 года назад

My immediate thought of a way to bring Power Boy back would be to have his empathic abilities cause similar symptoms to BPD where he he doesnt feel like a normal person, everything is heightened (e.g: somone with BPD wouldnt feel happy, theyd feel estatic, they wouldnt feel annoyed, theyd jump straight to anger, or thats how family members who have BPD have explained it to me) it would give context to his actions without having to justify it, though tbf the trauma that undoubtedly comes from growing up on Apokolips would give enough context itself. Dude clearly also suffers from attachment issues which is something else that would need to be addressed. To end things on a lighter note, we all know that his costume doesnt have the same implications as Power Girl's, but putting him in a crop top and some tight booty shorts would have done the trick, and it wouldve been more similar to Kara's costume at the time, adding to the creepy factor.... Also guys look hot in crop tops and booty shorts😅🤣

@WannabeWryter 2 года назад

Yeah they really framed it that perhaps his powers and his upbringing on Apocalypse had something to do with how he behaved. But they never used him again though, except just to kill him off in that teen titans book. Not all new gods can be Mr. Miracles and Big Barda's. Heck, maybe that's where he's been all this time hiding with them because they get it.

@cheezeofages 2 года назад

Oddly this isn't even Supergirl's only abusive boyfriend. She had one in a similar spot in the New 52 debut of the character, though iirc he was more the manipulative kind of abusive boyfriend.

@BrandonVout 2 года назад

Good ol' H'el. Reducing Supergirl to a gullable patsy. Another wasted character, given he's basically Superman's adoptive brother (and the New 52's first attempt at Bizarro). (And technically another Kara incest moment, albeit not by blood, now that I think about it)

@painvillegaming4119 2 года назад

@@BrandonVout fanfiction have better love stories then main comic dc

@BrandonVout 2 года назад

@@painvillegaming4119 No arguments, there. That's true for almost any fandom.

@painvillegaming4119 2 года назад

@@BrandonVout comics have been disappointing for the last few years (with the exception of the new spawn comics ) So fanfiction being holding my love for dc and marvel even giving crossover may never get So I am surprised how much of a bad rep fanfiction get and why is it present

@PanthroSamah 2 года назад

Funny that Hank Pym was defined by the time that he hitted Janet, but nobody talks about the time that Spiderman hitted MJ when she was pregnant or about the time that Cyclops abandoned his wife and baby son. Some stories have more impact than others, I think.

@TheGhostPanel 2 года назад

"Darkseid's interpretation of an earth superhero" is actually a really great character concept.

@bottlecapster9586 2 года назад

Poor Powerboy, doesn't he know that the way to a woman's heart is through Fashion Manniquins and custom busts of your love interest.

@OpticalSorcerer 2 года назад

I definitely agree that making Powerboy abusive and then trying to explore him later could come off as "apologetic"; while people can change, I don't think most readers could buy it; I'd rather they have retconned him into obsessive but not yet at the point of being abusive, rather insecure and uncertain rather than aggressive--or just retcon the whole abusive arc. And I'm also questioning on why he was invited to join Titans East...

@skylarsolar893 2 года назад

"I need a adult." I am a adult.

@godemperorcarlo 2 года назад

Thwarting my plans?

@7HmanThe 2 года назад

For a very long time, "Love at First Fight" was one of the very, very few comics I had. As a result, I've read it a whole bunch of times, and I've always wanted to know more about Powerboy! I remember reading once that he'd been killed off in a Titans comic, but other than that, I knew nothing beyond that one single issue of Supergirl. I always thought he was an interesting character, and this was a great way to learn more about him!

@davidfountain6607 2 года назад

It's hard to find the Supergirl wall of photos creepy, when we've seen many past characters, Superman included, with whole rooms with manikins dressed as Lois. This seems like a social norm in the DC universe. And I dub Powerboy, Bob Schwartz! Nobody would respect or fear Bob, so he vowed to never reveal his true identity.

@criminalisticL3 2 года назад

I’ve never heard of this character but I too am surprised by how compelling he is. Personally I’d to see him come back as a villain for supergirl/superwoman. I like the idea of him basically being a loyal spy for Darkseid but is SLIGHTLY conflicted because he does love being a hero and his dark twisted obsession with Supergirl. I understand characters portrayed as heroes being abusive is very difficult to do realistically and responsibly, so it makes sense that it’s an area of storytelling that creators and companies avoid all together (Kevin Feige talked about this with Hank Pym). I’m thinking if DC where to plan this out and have the right creative team they could have a really good villain (or hero if they want to go down that route). I admit it’s easy for me, as a reader,to ask this since I’m not the one taking on any risk. As usual AMAZING video Sasha! I always look forward to your funny commentary and insightful analysis on comic books.

@VDOTU5 2 года назад

Is there any proper way to handle a comic book superhero who's a victim of domestic abuse (including male characters who are victims)? And if a hero can be redeemed after being an abuser themselves but truly changed their ways?

@bigevil1001 2 года назад

I believe Hank Pym could be an interesting study on that.

@VDOTU5 2 года назад

@@bigevil1001 True.

@varto07 2 года назад

Not real therapeutic experience here, just how people tend to do this on other media. He should first have to be broken emotionally to understand he needs help. After that he would go through a whole process of self loathing, feeling he doesn´t deserve to be redeemed. Finally he would confront his past, AND DIE SACRIFICING HIMSELF TO SAVE OTHERS. (yeah, this is usually how they do it)

@harlannguyen4048 2 года назад

@@bigevil1001 It would be cool if Sasha did a video on him just to see how people viewed him then and now.

@ravenwilder4099 Год назад

I think a core problem with handling domestic abuse in a superhero story is that ... well, these characters get beaten up A LOT. Violence far more extreme than anything Powerboy did happens to them on a regular basis, with no apparent lasting consequences. And not just from villains they fight; superheroes get into fistfights with each other all the time, and go right back to being friends afterwards. This is a world where people hitting each other just isn't as big a deal as it is in real life, which makes a realistic depiction of an abusive relationship feel off.

@MsKambul53 2 года назад

I love how you play both roles of being an ardent comic book fan, ready to go with the tidal pull of a story as well as able to step back and see this in context with the character and comics as a genre.

@mikerosoft2179 2 года назад

I feel like a redemption for power boy could've been done given its even been done for joker and that redemptions for characters who've done all sorts of other worse things than power boy.

@WannabeWryter 2 года назад

Indeed,Jason Todd Red Hood, Harley Quinn, Clayface and (if I even get to write for DC) SuperboyPrime. He never was evil, just crazy people have done worse and he's a cool design.

@superboyjosh 2 года назад

If I remember correctly, DC was in another one of their on again, off again legal battles with the Schuster family over ownership of superboy. Powerboy seemed like he was being prepped as a replacement in case they lost ownership of superboy. Maybe when they decided they still had superboy, they could get rid of powerboy with the abuse storyline.

@Cid13 2 года назад

The only way I could see any redemption for him is therapy, staying abstinent and just being a team player. No leadership. And to get rid of his supergirl wall or whatever. Have him struggle with never recieving forgiveness. Honestly if Hercules in DC can be redeemed so can Power Boy

@thomasgiammarco2854 2 года назад

His story reminds me a little of the story arc of Dream Girl and Atmos of the Legion. Atmos was completely irredeemable after his manipulation of Nura.

@blackrazer22 2 года назад

Clearly Sasha thinks about these characters more than their creators ever did.

@im2cxe4u 2 года назад

That was the DC era of creating new characters (many of them teens) then using them for canon fodder. Killing them off (many Titans and infinity Inc), making the them a heel (Bombshell) or letting them simply fade away and never be spoken of again (Talon the Anti-Robin). Heck, Lex created a slew of new heroes simply to kill them all in the next panel.

@ProfessorHurt 2 года назад

So about this Powerboy arc. I think something occurred behind the scenes. Because #14 (i.e. the one that has Kara take on EVIL Cass) was supposed to occur an issue or two prior (hence the fill-in artist), but it was resolicited to #14. I remember this due to the fact we had so much evil Cass in early 2007 due to DC rushing to fully explain the "evil turn" while also putting any lingering appearances there.

@justicierodelaliga 2 года назад

Thank you for the video. I´ve always wondered about the character. As for the chest window on him it works. Precisely because of the chest hair. The chest window in Power Girl is unique for obvious reasons and will always make her stand out. If they were going to do the same thing with a man if he didn´t have chest hair there wasn´t any point to it. I also like the idea of him being from Apokolips and how his powers weren´t a copy of Power Girl´s. As for the character itself I agree that he had potential any way they´d wanted him to go: a true superhero, a villain, an actual abuser that has to live with that struggle, that the emotions/powers are what make him behave the way he does... Now I´m also wondering why the sudden change and death of the character. PS So, Geoff Johns created the character just because for that panel or did he have any say on how he was developed? PS1 If there´s Supermam Superboy, Supergirl and Power Girl I´m sure DC can use Power Boy. And I bet he´d return at some point. However, because of the way it was handled I´m willing to bet that he´d be a villain.

@smoogieboogie1694 2 года назад

I feel like Power Boy could be...well, not redeemed so much, but made better if they retroactively delved into his empathic abilities being hard to control and overwhelming him. Like not only his feelings but the feelings of those around him cause his emotions to run high. So he still abused Supergirl, he's still a guy who lusts after women, but it's tied to powers he can't control so it's at least slightly more tragic. Bring him back for a Teen Titans arc and have Raven begrudgingly say she can understand why he would be overwhelmed or something.

@ErrantVanguard 2 года назад

Honestly, as far as handling the aftermath, I dislike that in certain cases there are irredeemable lines that can't be crossed for "some" things. So long as after his whupping he was shown as wanting to change, and maintaining distance before only coming back to be just a friend, I think it could have been done. Do it tasteful, don't go for the goal of "the way things were" because he should know he doesn't get to choose that, and then I think a character like that could be savable. Obviously that's not the way they went, and for people that have experienced abuse, they likely don't want to see it, but I come from a place not having experienced that, but knowing that people that realize and accept that they have done wrong can want to change. I dunno, it's a fine line to walk that kind of arc, and I'm not sure that there's a writer at that time or current that has the chops to do it right, and the social climate right now I doubt would ever be accepting of it.

@CovenantD 2 года назад

Why would Kara want to be friends with her abuser? He physically assaulted her! She doesn't need to have her violation fridged to further the storyline of yet another male character. If his path is redemption he can do it without her.

@charleshockenbury353 2 года назад

"Bold claim Power boy, you're going up against the day her planet exploded" That one really got me 🤣

@timross5351 2 года назад

It's an interesting conundrum; how to recognize that you are in the throes of an abuser and how you get out of it is a storyline that needs to be told. I am not sure Supergirl is the hero that needs to deal with that; either because of her alien viewpoint or because Kara is so powerful that it might seem less plausible (or the idea that someone so powerful is also ...vulnerable to gaslighting could be depressing to some). Not everyone has physical invulnerability or super strength to deal with an abuser. Is there a run of comics somewhere that I missed that detail how Harley Quinn actually gets away from the Joker, or is it more of a matter of him not really wanting to be with her all along?

@thangotyikwe6514 2 года назад

The thing is I think it is possible to write compelling and well done abuser redemption stories see what they did with the character of Endeavor in the anime/manga My hero Academia, however the issue with doing this in serialized comics is that with different writer and artist taking over many of the themes and they way the character was presented in said redemption arcs can be ignored, retconned or abandoned which makes it difficult for a character to ever escape that stigma..which for the most part is what has happened with Hank Pym

@zakai-kaz Год назад

Endeavor was a terrible redemption though

@rayparker4231 2 года назад

I definitely agree that this character is full of untapped potential, his powers and upbringing could easily explain why he is how he is. They could’ve let Supergirl have her power moment, then give Powerboy some time away and possibly use it to cover depression and redemption

@renomaniquis4008 9 месяцев назад

Really love how you coordinated your top with the topic at hand.

@projekttaku1 2 года назад

powerboy is basically a creepy superboy, that was made to replace conner after he died. Now that I think about it, It would be cool to have superboy and powerboy meet, and have them become friends, without superboy knowing he was stalking supergirl, and build up tension that way. Maybe superboy could help redeem him, and find his place in the world.

@Pille22 2 года назад

I appreciate the window in YOUR attire for this video. really nice little tidbit.

@johnmattson8280 2 года назад

I vaguely recall these issues and I think my biggest thoughts at the time was 'well, that pivoted quickly.' Its part of why I ended up dropping Supergirl. The art was good but even with good writers, it was like they didn't know what to do with her and kept throwing darts at the wall to see what could work and not really giving them a chance to grow past an issue or three.

@btetschner 2 года назад

Going to watch this soon....I love the videos you make of Supergirl. There is so much more that can be done with her character! Merry Christmas Sasha.

@nightcrawler195 2 года назад

This is just a good breakdown. You just do such a good job. This has quickly become the best comic channel on RU-vid.

@ryanwillson2751 2 года назад

I love that you've covered this story. I love this Supergirl arch

@kakawanamagee3006 2 года назад

Short and sweet,,,,,, good job,,, 👍

@MrYaoiboi 2 года назад

Lovely video, but don't think i didn't see you rocking your own little chest window. I appreciate your commitment to the bit. Love your content and I'm always excited to see another of your videos pop up :)

@starbrand3726 2 года назад

First off...Sasha, I love your hair. (Just had to put that out there.) Secondly, Powerboy was an amazing wasted character. His origin was very interesting with lots of room for growth. A slave of Apocalypse, altered and trained for power and infiltration. His abusive nature was awful but understandable because of his upbringing. DC could have used him for years. A pretend hero who turns into a villian and maybe leads an army from Apocalypse only to later redeem himself.

@thepanelbiter9915 2 года назад

Okay, I subscribed. I’m very hesitant with comic book RU-vidrs because I feel too many of them sort of fall down the “doing this because movies” demographic. But I’ve seen enough of your videos to really enjoy your perspective and hear about stuff I haven’t even heard about in the realm of comics. Looking forward to more videos!

@Taliysin 2 года назад

The crack about Batman’s privacy levels is both side split-tingly funny and story level accurate. I imagine he was around the corner before she flew him into space….

@laurelsilberman5705 2 года назад

I BURST OUT laughing at “Batman’s idea of ‘space’ is moving the secret camera in your house to another room” 😭👌🏽😂✨

@millernumber1 2 года назад

Love this vid, but I have to admit, the more stuff I see and read about this era (the Loeb/Kelly Superman era), the more I have little to no desire to experience it more fully firsthand. There's some wonderful stories from the era, particularly things like What's so Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way, but there was also a lot of really slapped together things - the extreme edginess and horniness/frat boy mentality that so many creators (from Bendis to Millar) felt they needed to emulate to be "cool", the attempts to put in older era (pre-Crisis) powers and backstories and elements that Crisis had erased for a more serious and streamlined worldbuilding - that just make it not fit in my head or heart.

@KierTheScrivener 2 года назад

When stressed with finals I was just rewatching your videos on Powergirl and Jessica Drew

@dashfatbastard 2 года назад

Truly epic comic-book crack. A very fun breakdown...I'd missed this run. Love what you do and the way you do it :)

@dashfatbastard 2 года назад

When I was into the Titans and LOSH, itspeedy. bugged me that all these "teenagers" look so embarrassingly overdeveloped. It Gar and Terra in Perez' Titans run were close, till her heel turn with Deathstroke turned it so skeevy. That said, you're absolutely right...there were great possibilities in exploring Kara being truly in love with Power Boy framed as an someone raised on Apocalypse in a culture where abuse is a cultural norm. I think maybe you should be writing this stuff.

@rouenrobinson 2 года назад

"Batman's idea of space is moving the secret camera in your house to another room but still leaving the microphone in the first room." LMAO *Flawless*

@comics_from_the_vault 2 года назад

Thanks!! Your content on supergirl is always the most entertaining stuff on this Plattform! I even got this run but haven't read it already, but watching the video was worth the spoilers! I also would love to see a video about cyclops from you, since you mentioned some crazy things about him in stream xD Theese weird storys or silver age goofiness mixed with your great passion and humor makes for super entertaining content! So thanks! PS. Not my native language so hope my grammar doesn't suck to much😅 Cheers

@damienkakoschke3099 Год назад

LOL at the bit about Batman's idea of giving you space being to move the cc camera in your place to another room, but keep the microphone on

@rwg6357 2 года назад

poor Owen... and Geoff Johns will character assassinate him just to justify bringing Digger back when DC decides to revive Barry and completely break the Flash family... #JusticeForOwen what were we talking about

@doujinloverXD Месяц назад

Good news he is back again as a picture on a superhero dating site in a Fire and Ice story I think.

@VitaminCBable 2 года назад

Great breakdown. Personally, I think this comic breaks apart at the end of the run, where the author LITERALLY WRITES A JUSTIFICATION for why Supergirl was depicted this way. (By the way it you have to explain a joke, it's not funny). So, I think Powerboy would be an intersection foil for Kara in future comics.

@btetschner 2 года назад

Excellent analysis, you should totally write your own comic someday. I like the Supergirl videos (preferably when she is the main focus of the video). Thank you for the video.

@hordakprime6172 2 года назад

I would love for him to return and for him to be fleshed out into a more complex character besides it'd be interesting if Kara was in a toxic relationship with many gray layers to it.

@ferrarriohh 2 года назад

All my questions have been answered by this video.

@WannabeWryter 2 года назад

As I said before, I feel like this character deserves a rebooting and/or a come back. 1. He's cool looking 😎 and attractive. 2. Despite being abusive, he was still doing the superhero thing before and after the Supergirl situation so he was less "evil" more "crazy" 3. Considering he was an Orphan raised on Apokalypse (Darksied's Hellworld) who didn't even have a real name, aside from Power Boy, he could have turned out worse (they can't all be Mister Miracle's and Big Barda's) 4. He was really just swept under the rug after this. 5. I either want a retcon or a scene where either Clark, Diana or Connor find out about their "relationship" or atleast he's threatened with that as a "If you ever do that again, it won't just be me you have to deal with". What do you think?

@jelancritic3158 2 года назад

Why are the hot ones always crazy 🤪? Bring him back just for more art I say, even if it's as a villain.

@amaristudent9456 2 года назад

Superman would turn him into a Red and Black stain on the moon.

@projekttaku1 2 года назад

@@amaristudent9456 connor would donut him.

@amaristudent9456 2 года назад

@@projekttaku1 never heard that saying before but I assume it's means, put a hole through?

@projekttaku1 2 года назад

@@amaristudent9456 its when you punch a hole through somebody.

@PsychoStreak 2 года назад

What about his dog? What of Kirby? As for fixing him, aside from a full retcon where this story never happened, there are options. One would be something where he was programmed by Darkseid to self sabotage any deep relationships that might interfere with his loyalty If he formed any deep connections beyond friendship. Or, make it a dangerous side effect of his empathy - his level of control was inadequate for dealing with Kara - they're emotional states feeding on each other and triggering his obsessive behavior for someone that runs on emotion, the lust, love, and protective reactions could well be addictive to someone that grew up on Apokolips and likely never experienced it. It doesn't excuse his actions, but, unlike most stories where there's an abuser, it does provide a reason for it and a path to dealing with it besides jailing, killing or beating the crap out of the abuser. You can do (well two) of those things AND do something where you pair him up with someone with (comparatively) excellent emotional control, like Martian Manhunter. You also make sure both Powerboy and Supergirl are fully aware of the problem. They can be uneasy about it, know that they can't be a thing, but deal with it in a way that doesn't make him disposable. I'm sure that can be done in a way that doesn't turn out to be Hancock.

@KalEL224 2 года назад

Oh man this is bringing back memories of early adulthood loved this run for the art and just the whole post infinite crisis vibe of heroes.

@raven-deelarsen2644 Год назад

That Batman "space" joke had me laughing for a minute straight 😂

@BThings 2 года назад

Perhaps exploring cycles of abuse and how they make interpersonal relationships toxic and complicated is not well-suited to universes where you are either Good *or* Evil and all problems can and must be solved with violence.

@someoneimsure 2 года назад

I was recently reading a fanfic that referenced this exact story arc. Nice to see where it came from.

@RK-cq6qf 2 года назад

Honestly, the most I remembered powerboy is as a potential name for Conner kent Superboy to take over and redeem should he want to graduate to the mantle. Mirroring Powergirl's journey out of the shadow of superman. Though now that I've seen this I think the character maybe should have some space to return to, rather than just being a creepy abusive ass.

@ShadowWingTronix 2 года назад

I mentioned this in the community teaser but as a teen I created a superhero called Powerboy, my first original superhero. (Though his power set changed over time to what it is in my head today, evolving out of typical Superman set to more gravitational powers. Naturally he was, and still is in my head, a teenage superhero.) It wouldn't be the first time the name of a character or team I came up with would get snagged. However, given that Supergirl was my first superheroine crush (sorry, Diana, but you have plenty) and seeing that they used the name of my first superhero (not that they knew) into Kara's abuse boyfriend/stalker made me mad. Even now I'm still disappointed.

@paultapner1896 2 года назад

Your segues are always awesome. This is more dc noughties stuff that I read long ago and had long since forgotten. I think when a comic tries to tackle a subject like this, you will never be able to please all of the people all of the time. But I find myself preoccupied more by the thought of 'Darkseid's Testi......'. He must have them, because he has a son. But does wear clothes? Do said clothes get dirty from sitting around all day on that throne looking for the anti life equation with all the smoke from the firepits nearby? Does he ever change them? I'm falling down a rabbit hole!

@Konel333 2 года назад

You could make an entire video on 70s Cosmic Boy's costume. There is a whole lot to unpack there, both for good or ill.

@canadiananvil975 2 года назад

Yes, a huge opportunity. The restraining order nemesis. Appears out of nowhere to help her, but Kara has to worry he'll kill whoever she's fighting to end the conflict, and it's a matter of time before he wants to "fix" Kara.

@JefferyHHaskell_Author 2 года назад

Are you going to do the New 52 Supergirl? I was resistant to liking it but I ended up really enjoying the run. It ultimately had the same problem this one did though, the writers never figured out how Supergirl fit in.

@scarlettemae6576 2 года назад

Is there a animated movie or show?

@Quandryification 2 года назад

Yo, you are doing the lords work on this channel lol! Power boy/ Super Girl was a mess.

@asexypotato2280 2 года назад

He could be turned into such a cool anti hero or something, he has a lot of potential. Those powers are cool asf and could make for a lot of interesting conversation about him and his actions. Like whether or not they are truly his own, or if his insane upbringing combined with unstable-chaotic powers, and being basically still a kid are more to blame. THE POSSIBILITIES! 😩😩😩

@jamcalx 2 года назад

Zayin the Passionate. You could have make his powers cause him to isolate himself for the sake of others but it be a double-edged sword because he craves connections and is fierce his defense of those who he cares about. He meditates to control his powers balance his mind they are more of a curse. It could also lead to an eventual and potentially powerful (if handled tactfully) self-destruction storyline where he may or may not end himself. Heck, you could have him encounter multiverse versions of him that can help or (more likely) hurt his mental health.

@MrReded69 2 года назад

Well, when he first showed up in Supergirl, he acted like a nicer version of Kon-El in Reign of the Supermen. He had the cockiness, the show boaty attention addict style but it was colored in a happy tone. Unlike Kon-El's early arrogance and entitlement which began to change with the return of the real Superman(when he called himself Superboy for the first time). I would like to see a different take on Powerboy if they do a reboot on him. Literally make him the PowerBoy to an AU PowerWoman. E.g: what if Kara Zor-El was the parental figure for Kal-El like she was supposed to be in the last two reboots? We could see a rebellious PowerBoy coming to the mainstream DCU just to get away from his authoritarean elder cousin, corporate mogul & iconic superhero PowerWoman. There wouldn't be an icky, incestous romance between him & Supergirl. Just a friendship born of their similiar life circumstances(assuming that this is a teenage Supergirl).

@Tiggeralt 2 года назад

The only thing I knew about Power Boy was his cameo in Tiny Titans, so thank you for this video.

@Syntox 2 года назад

"I'm an empath"...no one who has ever said this sincerely has ever had good intentions

@blackphoenix77 2 года назад

What a waste of a character. Hopefully they can reboot him and start again.

@sinmenon4347 2 года назад

I like the idea and the concept, and how important it is to touch the subject in fiction in a tactiful manner both to empower the victims and to show them that even people with powers can go throughought bad experiences and survive. However it also worries me how often people romanticize toxic dynamics that are meant to make you feel disgust, like Harley and Joker. Maybe they didn't want to make it too long and give this type of opening, along with some editorial adjustment that we might never learn. It was indeed a wasted potential and a groundbreaking story, not without its flaws but good. It is just... Maybe we are the ones not ready.

@itoshigotc 2 года назад

I see a green head of hair. That green hair told me something just now... It said you've paid a visit. THE FOREST GREEN HAIR OF MY NEW/OLD/NEXT AVATAR HAS BLESSED YOUR AQUA PEARLY WIG WITH A FLIP OF A LOCK! 😉 Anyway, keep doing what you're doing. Great video. :3

@GiubileiFernando 2 года назад

They could have gone the route of being a full villain that blames Kara for the things he does and how he feels. You know, like abusers do. There was a time when Supergirl was filled with rage, he could claim that it was her rage that made him mad instead of accepting that he's the one in control of his emotions.

@TAYL4N 2 года назад

as a teen, for some reason that page where Powerboy is impaled on the tree really stuck with me, that whole Titans East issue really threw me for a loop, it was such a good one off, didn't see it coming