Practicalizing Daedric Swords and Axes from Skyrim 

Hold up...... yeah, you're right. I never noticed, but Skyrim is devoid of thrusting. I am now disappointed.

Say that to Lydia. She gets thrusted by the Dragonborn every nigth.

Andri474 use a left handed power attack with a sword

It's true, even with mods. Add a spear? They swing it around like they're at a baseball game. Even with how crazy I am (Mudcrab King, a Goat that can Tank against Dragons, shouting "JUST DO IT" at someone to send them flying at Mach 5 straight out of Whiterun) I am not too fond of having Tamriel's citizens using a spear in such a stupid way.

@@swordbomb1645 Hmm... Wasn't a mod of thrusting spears made?

Immortal Panda That’s cool as fuck

Interesting. Didn't know that

So if it's the heart of a more powerful deadra how would it affect the weapon. Like for example the heart of dagon himself?

@@Noctua8 Well the Heart of Lorkhan was used to power the Numidium, which essentially became a mortal-made god; and Clavicus Vile infused Umbra with some of his own essence and it ended up becoming sentient, escaping him, then becoming a floating island. So there are plenty of things that are within the realm of possibility.

The statement that daedra cannot create is imperial propaganda. The Daedra Princes have at least created their Oblivion plans.

That was funny!

Ha!

Okay, Marceline.

Davie approves.

it fuckin would ayy

@@thestranger954 I thought that as soon as I saw the comment

Change it to normal guitar and im with ya!

each sticker increases swing speed by 2m/s

Is this a warhammer 40k ork reference?

I was thinking of car jokes

@@whynot6262 Red onez go fasta! Waaaaaaaghhhhh!

@@stefan1360 well met brother

Wow, I can't believe I never noticed that!

Ethan Metcalf when you put a daedric helmet upside down it looks just like oht

Ohh

spears were a thing in morrowind but bethesda got really lazy with combat animations, since spears require an entirely different moveset

Reiklings have spears which you can use as arrows that goes a quarter of the distance a normal arrow goes

There's a pretty decent spear mod that actually adds new animations rather than just using old animations.

They didn't even want to design weapons with different animations, so there are a lot more problems that come before that. I wish Skyrim were more like Dark Souls... It has different types of weapons with very different animations and stuff... And rolling... And armor weight actually makes a difference... etc. etc. etc.

@@Tasorius They said because they would have to have a new skill tree just for spears. Not because of animations. They were too different from the other weapons.

IAMELIPHAS I just looked it up and they even look cooler

Or few models from TES IV Oblivion. Personally, I like Morrowind stuff more, mostly because of nostalgia. Good ol' days ^^

Except the Battleaxe, it's Double Headed

@@jaydenlobbe7911 I wouldn't say that the problem with the battle axe is that it's double headed, rather that I can't actually see anything remotely similar to a blade that isn't covered up in some other metal pieces and spikes and whatnot

holy shit yessss 😭 3 years late but I've been playing Morrowind for 4 years now and I haven't thought of bringing its Daedric Weapons up. Heck I very much loved the Daedric Claymore, particularly the King's Oath. All the weapons just works (except maybe the mace)

Throw the spikes instead. You can still end them rightly.

The duel pommel design was clearly Superior

@@commandershepaaarrrdwrex2881 you mean the Imperials right?

@@linsidious11 what do you want stranger

It has so be big and pointy so u can unscrew it and throw it at tge enemy

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Totally agree! And we should not forget to mention that these weapons are not meant to be used by regular humans, so making cutting harder might not be a problem with the added strength.

Ongoing Plague I fully agree. It’s still interesting to see these practical designs though. There’s also the factor that daedric metal is... Well, not even metal. It’s made from daedra hearts, so there’s magical properties in there as well.

I agree with you, except from a gameplay point of view. If they were supposed to be "worse at cutting" they wouldn't have higher damage ratings than most every other sword. They'd have lower instant damage, and an inherent bleed effect. Again, from a lore perspective, I agree with you 100%.

Besides, there's a lore explanation. The process of creating daedric stuff involves using hearts of daedra which are containing their souls. So you're locking thinking and feeling daedra into piece of ebony and then: make it really damn hot, beat it with hammer and then harden it, not in water, but in acid. Those spikes and so are not blacksmith's idea, but manifestation of daedra's rage and pain.

Precisely this.

Along with intimidation, they’re also supposed to be stronger and otherwise superhuman. The weight of these weapons and their impractical-for-humans design wouldn’t pose a problem for them. For instance the saw teeth on the one-handed sword, imagine having the blade slammed down into an opponent then drawn out of them, it would be easy for daedra. I could be wrong, I haven’t played the game basically since it came out, so I am a bit rusty on the lore.

I know my serrated steak knives cut a lot better than smooth ones do

There is a hidden skill in Skyrim where if you equip a complete set of Daedric armour, it actually grants the user an additional 10% intimidation bonus in dialogues. OP is absolutely right, it is in the game's mechanics and does fit the lore accurately.

I laughed way to hard at the "constantly bleeding as it marches towards you" 😂😂😂 send help

Daedric weapons are made very differently than normal weapons

daedric weapons are a type of daedra and they are alive

Yes, I also think their damage comes from a magical (Daedric) source and not so much the metal itself. The mere touch of the blade on armour might be damaging to the person. Daedric artifiacts which can all be seen as "true" Daedric equipment are all enchanted. I think the fact that it does not make sense logically is exactly the point but when you see someone walk up with the Devil's garb and his metal whip in hand the thoughts of what the weapon could do to you is enough to cause serious fear in anyone. Also the reason your opponent is wearing this armour is cause for concern - why are they after you? What is going to happen to you if you lose? So, I think Daedric weapons cause extreme damage to people due to reasons opposite of the usual rules of combat.

The look of the daedric weapon doesn’t actually apply to how it functions in the lore, when it’s picked up it feels balanced, it’s sharp as a razor, and the barbs or whatever you call it that are on he blade don’t actually have any effect

@@Sparky-gp9vh There's lore?

@The Beatings Extra spiky, daemonically possessed pommels.

Then end them rightly with the remaining pommel

@@jondeoliveira8248 That's pretty much Daedric "brass" knuckles. Of course, not made of brass

He also changed the material. Daedric metal is Black not a silverish gray.

Daedric pommel damn son

That's one of the reasons i dislike that you can smith deadric weapons and armour in skyrim. Makes them feel less special and just like the next thing to replace your current equipment once you have made enough iron daggers. It also takes away from dragonbone items, which absolutely should have been the highest smithing tier. Deadric items should've been really unique and rare items that you only got through a dangerous encounter, like a legendary dragon or something.

Going to the Unofficial (i know..) Elder Scrolls Wiki, they say that Ebony is volcanic glass, basically making it (in my mind at least) Obsidian. Considering the ties it has with the Daedra, and the game fact that you need a heart of a Daedra to craft Daedric weapons and armor, it may come with the added bonus that it don't suffer the brittleness of your normal volcanic glass, but still keep the sharp edge that can come with it. Obsidian for instance, make for the best surgical tools, since it can in theory, have an edge that is one molecule thick. If that last part be true, then applying force to two points instead of one, would be somewhat irrelevant, since it could (in theory) shred even metal armor like paper, not to mention what it would do with flesh. My thoughts on it at least.

Just look at Daedric weapons from Morrowind, rather than Skyrim. They're a lot better and more practical in design. Especially the Greatsword (Skyrim) vs Claymore (Morrowind).

Yeah I agree. Skall looks at these Daedric weapons from the POV of something that humans forge from metal but that is missing the point. Daedric weapons are not forged, they are more like grown or mutilated from another magical/otherwordly daedric being, they are "alive" so to speak. And I agree with the point someone brought, Daedric weapons should not have been forgeable in Skyrim because thats not something a mortal smith can do. It should have stopped at Dragonbone and Daedric weapons should have been ultrarare artifacts you find.

Also thinkin about it, maybe it's not supposed to cleave and just kill instantly, maybe it's supposed to last long and hurt as much as possible. Seeing how clavecus vile (probably spelled wrong) works, and all other dædric princes work actually, they're kinda around to torment you. Why bring that to a quick end?

Ebony is a single edge (slightly) curved blade, a very common historical design.

@@nvfury13 yes i see ot is a single edge, i was saying that the design of the sword to me seems like a much longer single edged weapon was broken and was later reshaped into a usable blade. my reasoning is that the cutting edge is fairly short in comparison to the rest of the blade. this makes the handle look really long. so to me the one handed ebony sword looks like a broken greatsword that was simply sharpened and repurposed as a one handed sword. just my opinion tho

Christopher Conaway Eh, they just did it as a short sword. The Ebony great sword is just a scaled up model of the Ebony sword, leaving it with the same proportions.

@@nvfury13 that is a fair statement i guess. maybe that unsharpened part at the beginning of the blade is meant as a ricasso

Actually good idea for a mod request. Go with it to Reddit and Nexus.

I'd love to have a skall merchant

I just loved the unintentional (im guessing) Assassin's Creed logo in the pomel

You see those warriors from Hammerfell?

Lag Incarnate They aren’t the only ones with curved swords

i'd have closed the gap, make the middle bit smaller bring the top and bottom blades onto each other. acts as either a stop,or makes the wound bigger. the pommel, idk, i think i'd have kept it a bit closer, not sure tho. the crossguard, eh, i think Skalls' is a little simple looking or smth like that, maybe i just don't like it much, but it's alright. for the hand axe, personally i'd have flipped Skalls axe head, remove the spike,take the originals "blade" lookin' w/e TF that thing at the bottom is, and turned it into a handguard when you grip the axe at it's lowest grip point. the two handed axe, i'd have kept the gap/hole between the axe heads on the original, make it some sort of weapon catching thing, idk, and brought the smaller axe head point down/out/back farther, not by much,but still. other than that,i like Skalls improvements. what do you all think of mine?

@Epicmonk117 Or made the blade a Warknife/Kriegsmesser one :D

Like others said, the manner that you make a Daedric item is much, MUCH different than a normal weapon, for you need a daedric heart in order to forge them, in other words, a demon heart. What does that mean? ( This part is more or less copy paste from another comment ) That means that no matter how perfect you make the blade or armor, without any ridges or faulty parts, somewhere along the forging the item will start to get corrupted, making the red lines AKA veins appear alongside the spikes and other unorthodox things that a blacksmith wouldn't do, essentially, the Daedra spirit fused with the item, making it somewhat alive, and each Daedric item is slightly different because they represent the Deadra's personality, this means that both Oblivion's and Skyrim's Daedric weapons and armors are canonic. However, it's written in lore that, despite their "imperfections", when held, they work better than if they were made without the heart, perfect balance and cutting/crushing power.

This is so sad

Alexa, play eromanga sensei outro.

Aldor Can we kill 50 weebs?

Soaked in....something

*may or may not include actual tears

Jeff K yeah, I guess, but the Skyrim daedric weapons make sense lore wise, since daedra love pain and would rather torture mortals rather than kill them, but that’s my head canon.

@@nin2494 if it's just your head canon then don't spread it or use it as arguments

Aleks I just said they made sense lore wise didn’t say anything about how I was right, nor did I try to use my head canon as evidence in an argument, besides why can’t I spread my head canon?

all the versions made sense IMO, its just different spins on the same thing just Skyrim's turned out a bit odd, but in defense Skyrim in general had issues with proportions in weapons. Funnily enough, in ESO they used that same designs for deadric weapons as they had in Skyrim (along with others) but they were mostly altered to have better proportions as well, kept the design the same just made everything look much better proportionally.

@@peachyjam9440 GE never said anything about "head canon" he said lore, as in "It's in the fucking game and is confirmed by the makers of said game"

*tests a sword on an onion*

Marco Pohl - _Weak._ You should make a sword out of an onion. And armor out of an onion. Then you'd be an Onion Knight (guess the reference).

@@TheAsvarduilProject replace the pommel with an onion

@@TheAsvarduilProject Game of Thrones Ser Davos Seaworth woo

^ Jordan's got it right!

We do have finds of those weapons in real life though, serrated ones that can actually cut, look at maximillian the 2nds sword, look at various designs of twin tipped swords, they are possible just not desired. However, lets say ebony in this word, once infused, has the properties of obsidian in its edge and high carbon steel in durability, or hell, just near indestructable, that would make it practical.

@@TheCompleteMental i looked up the maximillian II's sword,how is that practical its made of a swordfish im confused

@@darthalex3 Because if it was made of a material perfect at holding a super sharp edge it probably wont matter

@@TheCompleteMental fun fact, obsidian isn't really a strong material. It's like... a brittle rock. Hit it too hard and it breaks like glass. This ain't minecraft, bud

@@THEPELADOMASTER Thats why I said in its *edge,* having a very sharp edge, you stupid twonk.

*DEGENARATE!*

@@mway5061 you're literally calling me insane for owning an object.

You're also arguing with a potato. Might be crazy. xD

Says him, backing the potato up in an argument. Madness.

only 5 rookie numbers

How about if i take away your 'waifu pillow' then??

Ok, this is creepy.

😂

That is a good idea

I see the design as more of a fear tactic. The Daedra are powerful beings. Their strength trumps that of mortals and their access to magic even more so. I feel that enchanting their weapons would eliminate the design flaws and their immense strength would be enough to destroy mortals. And the jagged looking design would simply cause the weak mortals to run in fear. Letting the Daedra laugh as their victim uselessly flees.

It's almost what's actually canon but not exactly and it doesn't change the fact that a practical weapon would be better for anyone

My headcanon was that the daedric weapons weren't intended to kill, but to torture and capture.

Hmmm... Aren't the dremora very afraid of death? If I remember correctly, that's the reason why they donned their armor.

to be fair they basically just took a nodachi and made it black and red

I just liked the fact you used æ instead of ae

the "Heavy Armory" mod is really cool too

But it's Daedric and not Dædric. Dæ doesn't create a Dae sound.

Yeah, daedric spelled “dædric” looks cool, but it would be pronounced almost like “dad-rick”, at least in Norwegian. Wack.

Love this comment hate when people only use skyrim (which morrowind was better in my opinion) as the only elder scrolls reference

I'm going to go ahead and second this; would love to see Skal make a Morrowind weapons video, especially since there would be way more of them to talk about.

That was my thought too. The Morrowind designs have a few unnecessary spikes to be sanded off and such, but they'd be great as the basic concepts to build off from.

Skyrim was artistically the least inspired

Hell yeah they had the best weapons

Sorry that was me i was trying to hit a dragon down from the sky

i like to think, it didn't even cause any lasting physical damage, just the sheer emotional impact of that event, was what caused you to say "fuck it" and just quit the adventurer life, not because you physically couldn't keep up with it any more, but just because you were so done with shit like that, that you threw your hands up, and just went home. maybe this is stupid but ATM i find myself entertained by this idea...

How are you still alive?

Hail summoner, conjure up a body pillow

So you're dead?

THESE WOOOOUUUUNNNDDSS THAT WIIIIILLLLLL NOT HEEEEEAAALLLLLLLLL

THROUGH THE FIRE AND THE FLAMES! wait where am i?

I, too, would like to hear Skall's answer on this

Have you two even watched the beginning of the video? He said he likes fantasy and fantasy-weapons, because it's escapism and he knows that it's all supposed to be more about looks and less about practicality.

He likes monster hunter weapons for being over the top

You would love the Ultra sword in Kirby return to dreamland. It's THE most impractical sword for anyone and it's amazing

The "crazy guard" thing is exactly how I pictured the Daedric one-handed sword. Those spikes are supposed to protect the hand, the way a guard would. Okay, it's not a GOOD guard, but it's still a guard.

But they do the most damage

@@red48111 Who would win? A whole wall of text vs. one-line-boi? I have to applaud you on this.

We don't give 2 shits. He chose them because they are the most impractical weapons in Skyrim. It is meant to he entertaining and even educational on what makes good sword design. The lore behind these weapons and daedra has nothing to do with this video and it really irritates me when skyrim and fantasy fanbois in general fail to see that, then comment how lore breaking it is to change this or that or wrf ever. That's NOT the point of the video, damn

Fury255 I never stared YOU were a fanboi, I was stating I get irritated at them getting butthurt over a video when the lore behind the game itself is meaningless to the video. Though you are acting like one at this point. If you don't want/can't handle seeing fantasy weapons get looked at and evaluated for real world practicality, why on earth even watch the video? You call ME childish, yet you respond in literally the most juvenile way possible. GG.

So you're saying..men and mer are culturally appropriating weapons they "can't handle" Damn dremora supremacists

I'll try my hand at that if you don't mind. It's worth noting that the Saradomin godsword is pretty much what the old godsword models looked like. But it's not too bad once you remove those weird... fleur de lis spikes from the side. Heck, I could even imagine some culture making such a blade, given what some historical blades look like. The guard is also a bit exaggerated (on all four), but I think that is mostly done because the guards and blades are obtained seperately in-game so they wanted them to be distinct and noticable. Bandos godswords are also not terrible imo, except for the horn guard it has. It's basically just a big cleaver, and the serrations are at least pointed in a way where they wouldn't be as likely to get caught. Biggest problem is the balance and the rings on top (definitely would be heavy). Zamorak's is basically a torture weapon. It has more prominent spikes and barbs than a daedric sword. I also think the base of the blade is a bit too thick, it widens out a lot compared to the others. Not much more to say. I guess if you're working by the logic that more strength would let one more easily pull the barbs through any snags, creating massive tears and bleeding, that would kind of work? Alas, the Armadyl godsword... it looks beautiful, but... probably not the most practical. The shape would make it really weird to use, with an awkward balance and grip. The thickness of the blade is also strange to me, it's as if like the BGS it is made for heavy cleaving blows. The grip seems like it would make this a lot harder, and the pommel is certainly too big to use as a grip for the second hand. (All godswords have this, but I felt only the AGS was specifically impeeded by it). Finally, that really weird hilt/guard that extends halfway up the blade. But I normally give it a pass because it's my personal favorite and clearly designed to look like a wing before anything else. Zaros godsword... well, it could be better. there's a weird spike in the blade where the round fantasy part meets the blade part which would be a problem. And obviously the spiky fantasy part would be a problem itself. But it looks like it cheats by being an energy blade. Bonus round, the Seren godbow doesn't function as a bow, but I don't think it's really supposed to.

And holding two pommels in the picture like Barbosa in the third movie of Pirates of the Caribbean.

Too sexy for the internet to handle

100% this

No, originals are more beautiful

@@whatisayoutubehandlebro no one's forcing you to download it.

@@whatisayoutubehandlebro everyone has their own opinion, even tho i've already download a better one that still stick to the vanilla

Then use the originals - the beauty of mods is that if you don't like them then they don't affect you... I don't like mods that turn dragons into thomas the tank engine and low and behold in my skyrim the dragons are /NOT/ replaced with thomas the tank engine. TLDR: just because you don't like something doesn't mean it shouldn't exist.

Especially polearms

Hell yeah

That would mostly be, “ I love this.” and images of nearly identical historic designs.

@@nvfury13 Looking back at it, probably, down to the fact thrusting is actually a thing.

Windhelm Guard I agree. Having the lower point attached would make it less likely for the handle to break. Imagine a blow too low on the blade. It would act as a lever, putting too much torque on the attach point of the axe head. A lower attach point would bring the leverage point below the head and above the hand and would create much less torque. Not to mention he already has the lower point almost touching the shaft. Connecting it at this point is only an upgrade.

Remindes me strongly of a Bardiche.

Never played that one, But they do look like the ones from Oblivion.

I thought some of the redesigns were Morrowind. 😂

You could add them near the hilt on both sides. You don't use that part of the blade anyway.

@@fransthefox9682 you use that part for blocking, but arguably the serrations actually help with that

@@yamiyomizuki I meant you don't use that for cutting, but yes. It also adds to its aesthetics.

Now it's a sexy axe!

It looks horrible compared to the original

It looks...like trash

What have you done to my Towers?

Please tell me those don't exist

1,2 and 4: get rid of the pivot or extention point because they'll likely break there. As for the LHB, get rid of the "outer blade". It's a 75 pound steel scabbard for a perfectly serviceable sword.

@@biohazard724 but then it's just a normal sword.-.