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What Makes Sword Designs Ugly (also: Fixing Them!) 

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Fantasy weapons especially in video games come in all kinds of shapes, sizes, and styles... from realistic to ludicrous, and everything in between. Some of them are cool looking, some are intricately ornamented, and some are, well... hideous. Obviously whether you like or dislike a particular design is largely subjective opinion. However, there are more objective considerations in art design as well that can make or break aesthetics.
This is the condensed, edited form of a livestream in which we talked about a number of examples to figure out exactly what makes them unappealing (or at less appeal to fewer people than they could). I also photoshopped a few of them to see how much they can be improved with fairly simple changes to proportions and the position of certain elements.
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@danieloceansmith3156
@danieloceansmith3156 2 года назад
Ironic how the sword skall said “it touches your soul without permission” is a sword that literally Keeps the wielder alive through chaos magic, basically degrading his soul by forcing him to see death for centuries… spot on analyzing there skall!
@renanleandro5914
@renanleandro5914 2 года назад
I guess this is a win for the designer then
@Sonofsun.
@Sonofsun. 2 года назад
You dont get that's the point of the sword it corrupts the soul of everyone just by looking at it
@zyriantel9601
@zyriantel9601 2 года назад
@@Sonofsun. I believe it, I can feel my soul turning darker by the moment.
@Kpsla
@Kpsla 2 года назад
It's honestly hilarious looking at swords in fiction and seeing how many of them are just objectively better if you compress it along one axis.
@ShieldSniper
@ShieldSniper 2 года назад
yeah, but when designing this type of stuff, you need to think about camera and distance it will be seen as well (in case of games)
@tommeakin1732
@tommeakin1732 2 года назад
Like that Skyrim mod that makes all of the game's weapons look more realistic lol. I'm pretty sure all they did was lower than calorie intake for a few weeks and they look so much better lol. Still the same kind of length, just not morbidly obese
@ShirotoraGodsbane
@ShirotoraGodsbane 2 года назад
@@ShieldSniper And also character models. Look at World of Warcraft. If the weapons in that game were realistically proportioned, it would look strange in the hands of such exaggerated characters.
@user-tzzglsstle585e38
@user-tzzglsstle585e38 2 года назад
@@ShieldSniper I completely understand your argument for ridiculous weapon designs fitting ridiculous world design buuuuuuut the camera one is irrelevant, unless the sword is being used as a sniper rifle; you don't need a truck-sized sword blade in order to see it in a reasonable combat situation.
@illoney5663
@illoney5663 2 года назад
@@tommeakin1732 the mod actually elongates most of the as well, specifically the hilt. Which, in many cases, just looks bad in a different way.
@Gnomleif
@Gnomleif 2 года назад
"it touches your soul inappropriately, without consent" That one got a chuckle out of me 😁
@LuxisAlukard
@LuxisAlukard 2 года назад
T-shirt material!
@randombystander991
@randombystander991 2 года назад
That sword got a mental attack attribute.
@nyhtfall1969
@nyhtfall1969 2 года назад
I died laughing
@zyriantel9601
@zyriantel9601 2 года назад
Tragically a very appropriate sentiment for Square Enix weapon designs. I wanna love the idea of a sword transforming into an assault rifle, _but they made it look so bad for no good reason_
@Sonofsun.
@Sonofsun. 2 года назад
Skall doesn't understand that's the 0oint the demon kind wants to corrupt your soul just by looking at his sword
@juliustausch7377
@juliustausch7377 2 года назад
Therapist: the swordstika isn't real, it can't hurt you Skall: *creates swordstika*
@Ranstone
@Ranstone 2 года назад
*Gay pride swordstika
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 2 года назад
Some Hindu's are looking at that and going - what is wrong with it ?
@SavageGreywolf
@SavageGreywolf 2 года назад
@@90lancaster I mean, I think they'd still agree it looks hideous, at least XD
@eyeballpapercut4400
@eyeballpapercut4400 2 года назад
@@90lancaster German folk enthusiasts, not knowing their Hakenkreuz can get corrupted even further after what funni mustache man did, crying tears of blood after they saw the swordstika
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi 2 года назад
@@eyeballpapercut4400 not just german enthusiasts, buddhism lovers are also tainted since they have the Manji symbol. It’s not the same symbol but people cant tell the difference.
@maaderllin
@maaderllin 2 года назад
I like how Skall starts by fixing the sword (like the title implies) but then just give up and decide to make them worse.
@vividele6323
@vividele6323 2 года назад
swords that don't look sharp drive me insane
@slydoorkeeper4783
@slydoorkeeper4783 2 года назад
Great sword from Monster Hunter comes to mind.
@t.r.everstone7
@t.r.everstone7 2 года назад
Right, they're just ornate clubs lol
@GeebusCrust
@GeebusCrust 2 года назад
I agree, especially if they're portrayed as cutting like a hot blade through butter. As garbage as the series is (and as much as people specifically hated this part), I like what Berserk 2016 did with the Dragonslayer, making it *DING* when Guts hits someone with it. The idea they tried to sell being that he's a monstrously powerful man, wielding a weapon that is more of a massive hunk of sword-shaped iron than an actual sword. It's massive, and there's no way anyone should be able to wield it. It's so thick, there's no way it could cut. And yet, he swings it with one hand. And it indeed doesn't cut, he just hits with enough force to smash THROUGH flesh.
@HuyNguyen-jl7go
@HuyNguyen-jl7go 2 года назад
wait , it wasn't CLANG ?
@GeebusCrust
@GeebusCrust 2 года назад
@@HuyNguyen-jl7go yeah, I guess it was
@perrenchan6600
@perrenchan6600 2 года назад
Im a training concept artist. One of the reasons designs like these can come into existence is because we try to design interesting and new silhouettes coz things that are realistic tend to have very simple silhouettes and shape language. It is difficult to find that right middle ground but it is possible. You have to choose what to exaggerate and when to exaggerate, etc I personally prefer leaning more into realism and pushing the finer decorations. I don't like all the big random spikes and over excess decorations
@noobatredstone3001
@noobatredstone3001 2 года назад
Indeed, but the purpose of interesting silhouettes is being readable. Unlike 4:05. 15:13 in contrast is pretty boring, which isn’t good either.
@markfergerson2145
@markfergerson2145 2 года назад
A solid real world design principle is "form follows function". There's also parsimony, using as little material as possible (real world economics being what they are). Even within those modest restraints you get things like the flamberge, the kukri, and ornate wire basket hilts. The other extreme is making a thing "interesting" for its own sake with no regard for function. Maybe being a Buddhist biases me toward a Middle Way but I find interesting yet practical designs far preferable.
@perrenchan6600
@perrenchan6600 2 года назад
@@noobatredstone3001 I mean theres a silhouette with clear visuals (e.g. sword: blade, handle, cross guard, pommel). Then theres a silhouette thats just "different" if you get me (e.g. spikes everywhere)
@perrenchan6600
@perrenchan6600 2 года назад
@@markfergerson2145 Exactly! In an essay I wrote for University, I quoted a concept artist's variation of the form follow function principle where once youve established the function can you then design the form. And the best resource to reference is real life because I am an artist and not a weapon smith so I dont know what an optimal blade proportion is but real life blacksmiths in history have already worked it out so I quote them when designing 😂
@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947
@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947 2 года назад
Yes, you can make it interesting without exaggeration, even sometimes less is more as an example the lightsaber is for me one of the greatest recent hits, of you taking real life Katanas, Sabers and Rapiers, but using this energetic sword idea without souring the conventions that make this design work, including lightsabers are so accurate that even they suffered from this exaggeration.
@tarille1043
@tarille1043 2 года назад
My biggest pet peeve in fantasy sword designs, is when the blade is super thick. Like, it's a sword. It's literally defined by its blade, as such, it should have a blade thickness that actually makes sense for cutting/thrusting. If you want to make it 5 inches thick, just design a club. Axes have a similar issue. Sure there are axes with fairly broad heads, but those are typically log splitting axes rather than axes designed as weapons. Again, if you want to design a thick "Axe" just design a hammer.
@Gacho39
@Gacho39 2 года назад
When it comes to video games theres actually a good reason for that, cause sometimes you're not always gonna be up close to the weapon and the character so it's a way to make the weapon more visible from far away
@tokaygekko5135
@tokaygekko5135 2 года назад
@@Gacho39 counter argument, elden ring. Well-designed, realistically proportioned weapons, that you can see from a distance.
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 2 года назад
The are often more like a bludgeon that cuts a bit.
@aurtosebaelheim5942
@aurtosebaelheim5942 2 года назад
@@tokaygekko5135 Graphical fidelity really helps in that regard. Also the fact that you generally don't need to identify a specific weapon and if you do, the person wielding it will be bright red.
@Sammy9262
@Sammy9262 2 года назад
“That thing was too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron.” ― Kentaro Miura But yeah, you're right.
@lorddingusmcfurguson9356
@lorddingusmcfurguson9356 2 года назад
I feel like Red Queen (10:13) was poorly represented, so I'm going to explain the exhaust further. I understand that this is all in good fun and in no way take issue with Skalls assessment. Red Queen has a grip resembling a motorcycle handle because it has an engine in it that can charge up to 3 bursts of energy. The fire is a BYPRODUCT of these bursts, not the intended function. These bursts are used to enhance the momentum of the blade, increasing it's contact force, cutting power, and speed. In game it is swung in wide, flowing, circular patterns and the bursts are usually powerful enough to fling the user across the battlefield. It is no way a practical weapon IRL, I just want it to have a fair shake in it's inspection.
@Pyre
@Pyre 2 года назад
All of that, with the added note that even as ludicrously strong as Nero is, that weapon drags him around when he swings it. Like a little nod to videos Skall, Shadiversity and others have done about giant sword physics. Almost none of what Nero does with Red Queen is meant to look controlled, let alone precise. Which is like the only time I can think of that a fantasy sword wielded by a character with super strength got that treatment. *Also* , the chonky exhaust bits are an implied refit: the original design was much more streamlined.
@Skallagrim
@Skallagrim 2 года назад
It still needs to be magical because there is no way to fit an actual functioning engine into such a small space (especially without compromising the entire weapon's structural integrity).
@lorddingusmcfurguson9356
@lorddingusmcfurguson9356 2 года назад
@@Skallagrim Yeah, I'm not arguing that point. I just wanted a better description than "it shoots fire." Love your content, man. Glad you got to see what I had to say.
@soybajo-kira8585
@soybajo-kira8585 2 года назад
@@Skallagrim it WAS made by a demon worshiping cult so it might be magical in some way
@kounurasaka5590
@kounurasaka5590 2 года назад
@@Skallagrim DMC is basically a fever dream. Almost every weapon is magic, so it makes sense in context. Totally impractical in real life, but the entire world is basically a giant comic book.
@GuidedByCompassion
@GuidedByCompassion 2 года назад
I am glad it seems more fantasy games now-a-days are implementing a combination of historically accurate, and practical fantasy designs. I also enjoy the occasional wildly over the top fantasy weapon, as long as it looks slightly functional.
@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947
@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947 2 года назад
@Imperator Caesar Traianus Hadrianus Augustus At least Warhammer depending on who's doing it has acceptable designs, now MMOs kill me, I'm glad it's not all of them but there are many.
@Gnomleif
@Gnomleif 2 года назад
@uNnHkP8mza _FUGS has entered chat_
@pwnorbepwned
@pwnorbepwned 2 года назад
I like the blend present in FFXIV. You may have the ultimate sword that looks like some rainbow demon cocoon with a sharpened edge on it, but you can glamour it to look like a sensible, ordinary bastard sword if you want.
@collin333
@collin333 2 года назад
I’ve noticed this too, and I’m definitely not mad at it. It’s okay to have ornate or detailed designs (hell there are even historical examples of crazy designs) but at the very least, make it functional
@ArifRWinandar
@ArifRWinandar 2 года назад
Meanwhile, Monster Hunter in the corner is busy sticking animal parts onto a steel beam.
@DH-xw6jp
@DH-xw6jp 2 года назад
17:04 Lol skall almost drew the forbidden windmill, saved himself by claiming less symmetry is better.
@meme-bu8qu
@meme-bu8qu 2 года назад
Okay, the forbidden windmall is what i shall call it from now on. love it. lol
@Andrew-zq3ip
@Andrew-zq3ip 2 года назад
That moment when skal realizes he's making a swastika....
@slydoorkeeper4783
@slydoorkeeper4783 2 года назад
It was perfect.
@wastrelperv
@wastrelperv 2 года назад
Is this based?
@calebw8189
@calebw8189 2 года назад
People say: "fantasy swords don't have to be practical, they just have to look cool", and yet Lord of the Rings' practical and elegant sword designs are still some of the coolest in any fantasy series I've ever seen.
@YeprilesteR
@YeprilesteR 9 месяцев назад
Always a +
@Merilirem
@Merilirem 2 года назад
I think the most important general rule is that the pointy bits should point away from the wielder unless they WANT to stab you for some sort of blood magic battle masochist reason.
@granudisimo
@granudisimo 2 года назад
Props to the Lovecraftian/Boschian horror symbolizing the algorithm, and the knights whose weapons symbolize the ways in which you conquer it.
@Skallagrim
@Skallagrim 2 года назад
It's actually a modified version of the black beast of Arrrggghhh from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. :)
@granudisimo
@granudisimo 2 года назад
@@Skallagrim You mean the Aaaarrrrgorithm beast? Yeah yeah I'll see myself out, but not before switching the animator's heart pills for tictacs
@saxtonhalegaming
@saxtonhalegaming 2 года назад
17:47 mmm yes, the Windmill of Friendship and Tolerance
@zataiyo6738
@zataiyo6738 2 года назад
Either make it simple or make it mechanical Cuz mechanical melee weapons are cool Yes, I have played Bloodborne
@Darek_B52
@Darek_B52 2 года назад
I'd buy that pimp cane for a dollar
@slydoorkeeper4783
@slydoorkeeper4783 2 года назад
Bloodborne weapons are sweet. I want to make a saw cleaver when I get into forging. I also want to make the loaded ax from sekiro.
@Tacticaviator7
@Tacticaviator7 2 года назад
*TONITRUS TONITRUS TONITRUS*
@Sammy9262
@Sammy9262 2 года назад
May I interest you in the humble chainsword? It's exactly as it sounds - A sword, but with a chainsaw blade
@Darek_B52
@Darek_B52 2 года назад
@@Sammy9262 I'll buy your entire stock!
@DraculaCronqvist
@DraculaCronqvist 2 года назад
I liked the fix jobs here. Not perfectly designed, but made serviceable with minimal redesigning. Just shows that some designs take it one step too far, instead of 20 (like the two last ones, geez).
@Peter-rt3fl
@Peter-rt3fl 2 года назад
The changed sword at min 6:14 was a huge improvement.
@bibigreen6533
@bibigreen6533 2 года назад
It's kinda always the same corrections. Make it slimmer and remove the serrations. And remove self-poking spikes.
@Werewolfwrath
@Werewolfwrath 2 года назад
Me when most people "fix" other people's art: "How dare you." Me when Skallagrim "fixes" other people's art: "No, no. He's got a point."
@stevenbacon-cheddar9914
@stevenbacon-cheddar9914 2 года назад
Very good, Kronk!
@nathanbrown7906
@nathanbrown7906 2 года назад
Because he has an objective point unlike everyone else who changes something they just don't like
@meme-bu8qu
@meme-bu8qu 2 года назад
These kinds of channels are really helpful for me as a writer and beginner artist that wants use weapons in stories, but is overwhelmed by all the knowledge out there. I have a jumping point and know what direction I can look begin to into next. Thanks.
@Acrobuster
@Acrobuster 2 года назад
Hah Caius' sword was always hilariously dumb to me. He stabs someone with it at some point and I was like "welp, now you have a body permanently attached to your sword because that isn't coming out!"
@Seelenschmiede
@Seelenschmiede 2 года назад
Just wait several weeks between stabbings 😋
@zyriantel9601
@zyriantel9601 2 года назад
Caius hopping on one foot, trying to dislodge the recently stabbed individual by kicking his chest while pulling the sword with both hands
@lightningpenguin8937
@lightningpenguin8937 2 года назад
@@zyriantel9601 all while the dying victim screams for mercy.
@LDSG_A_Team
@LDSG_A_Team 2 года назад
I really enjoyed this video. The photoshop redesigns were very nice
@tizio3306
@tizio3306 2 года назад
17:52 FOR GOD SAKE, JUST USE A STICK, STICK IS GOOD YA KNOW
@tizio3306
@tizio3306 2 года назад
18:40 🗿 why?
@joanignasi91
@joanignasi91 2 года назад
Secret to designing the perfect sword according to videogame designers Step one: put spikes on it Step two: put MOAR spikes especially if they point towards the user
@amnesicturtles4145
@amnesicturtles4145 2 года назад
Also make it big, big blade and big spikes = powerful apparently
@tennoyamamoto1800
@tennoyamamoto1800 2 года назад
Make it W I D E
@Seelenschmiede
@Seelenschmiede 2 года назад
Make it thiiiiiiiikk!
@reptiloidmitglied2930
@reptiloidmitglied2930 2 года назад
Another important thing is to add spikes to the spikes.
@SavageGreywolf
@SavageGreywolf 2 года назад
it should also have a cutting edge the width of a small dog, don't forget that, it's key
@ArniesTech
@ArniesTech 2 года назад
In many games I deliberately stick to the Lvl. 1 weapons because they are so besutifully simple and IN THIS simplicity lies the beauty 💪😌🙏
@leiferikson850
@leiferikson850 2 года назад
This. FFXIV Dark Knight blades (Inspired by berserk) are oversized 2-handers. So far so fine if they weren't as THICC as a whole leg... Always keep the slim ones. Looks the most usable
@535phobos
@535phobos 2 года назад
Half my Skyrim Mods were swords and armor. Because everything above the Iron Sword in Vanilla is BS. I ended up with a lot of Witcher models...
@TheKarofaar
@TheKarofaar 2 года назад
17:04 Yep, that's the only way to do a german sword
@MarijuanaPaint
@MarijuanaPaint 2 года назад
What's hilarious is that abomination of four hooks you created loosely takes the shape of a swastika as well. Just layers of awful lol. This was a fun watch, I'd love more. Those fixes looked sooo much better btw.
@Photoloss
@Photoloss 2 года назад
It's the "good" swastika though. Hindu cultures have used several variations for millennia, and the Reich version was consistently oriented with the forward prongs facing clockwise.
@Kevin-qj7fp
@Kevin-qj7fp 5 месяцев назад
Could be a ninja star Or throwable one but since w we re talking about swords No Swords don't look like giant 4 bladed stars
@tehuselessguig3138
@tehuselessguig3138 2 года назад
Red Queen is dumb. but it's awesome. Sparda tends to look weirder depending on the iteration, but something interesting about it is how it's a more straight/simple blade with organic matter grown around it turning it from this sleek, simple longsword with an ornate handle into this mess of a one edged greatsword with flesh and bones jutting out
@Pyre
@Pyre 2 года назад
I did want to say, I don't remember it looking quite *that* cancerous in-game. And its original design was much sleeker. Though still kept the "this was grown, not forged" aesthetic.
@tehuselessguig3138
@tehuselessguig3138 2 года назад
@@Pyre it is the model from 5 which has the handle kind of twisted/deformed as well, in prior games the parts that are from the original Force Edge are less deformed then again it might just be due to time and damage that it looks like that in 5 and cleaner in games that take place before
@Foxxie0kun
@Foxxie0kun 2 года назад
@@tehuselessguig3138 If I recall correctly, Devil Sword Sparda also unfolds into a scythe-like form for some attacks as well.
@tehuselessguig3138
@tehuselessguig3138 2 года назад
@@Foxxie0kun yup it does
@CamelotGaming
@CamelotGaming 2 года назад
10:14 The Blue Queen handle is a motorcycle handle, and Nero Revs it to build up energy in it's engine. This is not a believable sword in anyway, but it's cool
@beleth57
@beleth57 2 года назад
Didn't realise there was a colour switch for Red Queen lol
@CamelotGaming
@CamelotGaming 2 года назад
@@beleth57 Look, i haven't slept in 24 hours
@EnraiChannel
@EnraiChannel 2 года назад
Yeah I personally really like red queen's design. It's a bit wacky, but not over the top. Also the blade shape is pretty neat.
@jordanreed3675
@jordanreed3675 2 года назад
The reason it has that engine like addition is to add more cutting power against thick demon hide
@Lethargy514
@Lethargy514 2 года назад
For a game as wacky as Devil May Cry, I'd say it's pretty believable. Nero is lacking his Devil Bringer in DMC 5 and was at best a half-demon that Dante never fought seriously in DMC 4 so he needs that extra oomph to make up for his short comings.
@dylandarnell3657
@dylandarnell3657 2 года назад
When you were talking about "shape overload," it occurred to me that Final Fantasy kinda has both ends of that spectrum, even with both examples being ridiculous. Obviously the overload end is Caius's ... _thing_ ... from FFXIII, which I'm not going to defend at all except to say that it's the weapon of a deranged immortal and thus reflects his condition (in the same way that the Sparda sword reflects the fact that Sparda the character is a demon and viscerally horrifying on various levels), and Odin's weapon from the same games similarly reflects its wielder's status as Not Human / Not Entirely Real. The other end is the Buster Sword from FFVII, which has a grand total of maybe 2 shapes if you count the handle. Also ridiculous, also somewhat justified in-universe (it's a sword made for ludicrously strong super-people to use on ludicrously durable targets), but a much simpler design.
@zyriantel9601
@zyriantel9601 2 года назад
And it has little slots for the designated magical macguffins of the setting to fit into, and said macguffins are small enough to be carried in one’s pocket, so it can be magical or mundane on the whim of the wielder without sacrificing the urgency of combat - just duck behind a wall and slap some materia on your sword, like how you’d reload a gun but with slightly less steps. Of course, being Square Enix, of course they don’t do that, so this practical application is fanon only.
@lt.branwulfram4794
@lt.branwulfram4794 2 года назад
I do have to say, the first design does look like if you were to Mordschlag with it, it would be quite devastating to whoever's on the receiving end. Multiple points of blunt impact on the guard.
@PockyMonsterEatYou
@PockyMonsterEatYou 2 года назад
I couldn't watch through the full stream vod and only now realising how much else I missed, so these highlights of the stream and editing you'd have to do to make this specifically is appreciated!
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi 2 года назад
Most designers don’t know how a sword would function. But everybody knows how guns function, that’s why you don’t see fantasy firearms with barrels pointed at their user. Most of the shit designs happen because the creators don’t know better. So I don’t accept “I think it’s cool” as a valid counter. Dragonslayer from Berserk is supposed to be a ridiculous design. Cloud has super strength so he can use the Buster Sword. Key Blades are godly artifacts that defy reality. Daedric Weapons are made from chaos and instability so their shapes make no sense but they still function ignoring their form. All of those terrible weapons at least have justifications for their designs in their universes, and they make a lot of sense.
@SupahTrunks7
@SupahTrunks7 2 года назад
I understand that daedric weapons are made of chaos but I will straight up refuse to wield them in game no matter how strong they are because I hate how they look. I will gladly settle for ebony as long as I don’t have to put my hand on the spike trap that is a daedric blade. (At least in Skyrim. In morrowind im usually fine with them especially when conjured)
@Starcanum-
@Starcanum- 2 года назад
Everybody knows how guns function the same way as they know that you're supposed to "hit them with the pointy end". I've seen so many hideous firearms with grips that'd be downright maiming to the user, missing sights, painfully sharp stocks, random holes in the barrel, extra fluff that looks like it adds 2kg to the weight etc., basically everything that you see in this video and more.
@VarthalabauHair
@VarthalabauHair 2 года назад
True. It's not like weapons need to be 100% realistic in fantasy games, but many of the designs are so outlandish and gargantuan that it makes them look ridiculous. Another thing I have an issue with is how many spikes/pointy edges designers often put in a sword's blade without realizing that in reality this would only make them stick in enemy armour after every slash lol. Also the whole point of the guard in a sword is to protect your hand from enemy strikes, if the guard is too wide it would leave your hand exposed and if the guard is too narrow it would restrict your hand's mobility and even hurt it.
@SupahTrunks7
@SupahTrunks7 2 года назад
@@hm-dq5sq thats fair and i totally get rule of cool, the only issue is that cool is subjective and frankly i dont think daedric weapons actually look /cool/ so they dont get that pass from me. in my humble opinion daedric weapons in skyrim are butt-ugly and resemble something you'd find in an edgy teens bedroom hanging on the wall like a trophy even tho its actually made of plastic. I don't look at them and go "oh this looks cool but i wont use it because its unrealistic" i go "oh this looks dumb as shit and i dont wanna have to look at it the whole time im playing bc itll just make me feel like a dorky edgelord." Meanwhile I have no problem with the daedric stuff in morrowind because it looks dope and i dont think ive ever even asked myself if the cool daedra-face shields are practical because they're so fun and neat. tl;dr rule of cool trumps realism but runs the risk of people not actually finding it cool, while realism may be boring but everyone understands it
@pillarmenn1936
@pillarmenn1936 2 года назад
@@hm-dq5sq my ass. anyone can design something cool, it takes more effort to combine cool and practical. Dark Souls has been doing this, along with adding ridiculous weapons as well.
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi 2 года назад
16:45 man this was so funny, “I fixed it” lol.
@chandelballard6427
@chandelballard6427 2 года назад
The one at 16:30 would be hard to swing. Imagine trying to swing it out to hit someone. The weight of the other blade on the other side would make it almost impossible. And if you do manage to get a swing then you will hit yourself at the same time you hit your opponent due to the small handle to blade ratio, unless you go for a hit angled at the side but in that case the blade would just bounce off your opponent.
@Photoloss
@Photoloss 2 года назад
Regarding the Troll Knight's Sword, here's what an Elden Ring troll knight looks like: eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/file/Elden-Ring/troll_knight_3.jpg The guard still is a bit of a waste but this weapon was _not_ designed to be wielded by humans and some deciding factors probably were magical (Glintstone, the blue crystal) or political (they're slaves) in nature rather than functional.
@Kualinar
@Kualinar 2 года назад
At least, it looks reasonably well proportioned when wielded by the intended user.
@ncuriousmediator9434
@ncuriousmediator9434 2 года назад
Actually, Troll Knights are not slaves, as the sword description says: "Called into service when the Queen invoked an oath they swore, the trolls are treated as true knights of Caria, and fight arm in arm with their human comrades."
@Laeshen
@Laeshen 2 года назад
On the sword at 2:30 I think that if it is a small dagger, then increasing the size of the pommel might make it look less odd
@LuxisAlukard
@LuxisAlukard 2 года назад
I think one of the reasons swords in video games are so big is because they are few centimeters long on your screen, an if you want to see them better - they must be wider than normal (and also longer than normal). I enjoy that stream, it was great!
@Prisoner-gk6lr
@Prisoner-gk6lr 2 года назад
theres something kinda soothing about fixing ugly weapons
@AndymionD
@AndymionD 2 года назад
I really enjoyed your fixing of the ugly swords! Even my 6 year old daughter was saying that the original swords were ugly and that your fixes looked a lot better.
@painwheel_1337
@painwheel_1337 2 года назад
I like how the last "sword" has a little spike on handle just to punish anyone dares to use it.
@Jackraiden500
@Jackraiden500 2 года назад
I have always actually kinda liked the design of caius sword aesthetically. In a train wreck in slow motion and can't stop looking at it kinda way 🤣
@grimmvand9674
@grimmvand9674 2 года назад
Skall….I have an amazing idea, have a series where people send you their fantasy concepts that are strictly supposed to be fantasy in a game…and you take it and redesign it to be practical without changing its pieces like you did in this video …I’d watch you reassemble concepts all the time it was very entertaining
@poja82
@poja82 2 года назад
6:30. Congrats, you just reinvented the claymore.
@thetalantonx
@thetalantonx 2 года назад
Ok, please make this a series. It's not just pointing and laughing, it's trying to see what the artist was going for, and ironmanning their design, transforming it into the best possible version
@natural_20s
@natural_20s 2 года назад
Skal, I would look into also uploading the vods to your streams unedited. I personally don’t have a lot of free time during the day to watch streams as they happen, but I love watching the stream vod as a whole, compared to watching highlights. Not that highlights are bad, I actually loved this video. Keep up the good work! You’ve inspired me to start looking into HEMA and looking more realistically at swordfighting. Been loving your content for years man. Keep up the good work.
@Seelenschmiede
@Seelenschmiede 2 года назад
I think he should put up a seperate channel only for his streams to upload so it doesn't affect the main channel.
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 2 года назад
I think there's a couple of things going on. Firstly, you can have decoration that enhances that thing or overwhelms it. It's similar to makeup in that times and cultures and people will disagree on where the line is. But there IS a line. Gaud is sometimes also used to cover poor design up. Second, you have expectations. You can be flexible in them, but they're still expectations. If they're not met, you don't know what it is you're looking at. It confuses. If you've got BOTH going on, they may not multiply, but they may not cancel ether. That one design (you know, the one where Context Sensitive gave you a good handle), I think that would work even better if you stipillate that the narrower bit is actually blunt as a defencive area and where you can safely put your hand for half-swording.
@pes6628
@pes6628 2 года назад
18:24 - yay, the sword with the eye that someone sharted into, since it's got an obvious case of pink eye. Might be the only sword with a yeast infection in the world. Unique item.
@evernewb2073
@evernewb2073 2 года назад
it is from a final fantasy game and yet still somehow manages to look ludicrously impractical in-setting. it has an eyeball in it's crossguard. it has an angelwingsanddemonclaws motif. I would not be remotely surprised if "it touches your soul inappropriately without consent" is part of it's item description.
@Kenar.E
@Kenar.E 2 года назад
6:00 I actually liked that pointy point.
@raykirushiroyshi2752
@raykirushiroyshi2752 2 года назад
3:18 could that be the inspiration for the moollight greatsword
@strider_hiryu850
@strider_hiryu850 2 года назад
that's what i think
@luisrosado7050
@luisrosado7050 2 года назад
Imagine a bossfight against an absolutely hideous sword more hideous than you can possibly imagine
@-Extra_Lives
@-Extra_Lives 2 года назад
Surprised nobody has mentioned how good the background song skal uses when fixing the sword is
@otw_felipe5351
@otw_felipe5351 2 года назад
Damn Skall, you use a lot Pornsite references. Makes me wonder how you know them so well... Greetings from Germany ✌️♥️
@blackcat3
@blackcat3 2 года назад
I don't comment on videos that often but I just had to share how I would go about fixing that last "sword". Option 1: have it growing out of the arm of an infested looking monster, also having the sword looking parts drop as parts for different weapons. (like the top being an axe blade, middle being a sword blade, and the handle as a harpoon.) Option 2: cut out all the "organic/ infested" looking bits except for the eye on the handle and use ether the top for an axe or the middle for a sword and finally cut off the spikes on the handle. finally Option 3: cutting the top portion off starting just behind the middle sword and duplicating the middle sword to the other side and making it an organic/ infested compound bow. Of course there would be a lot of small adjustments to all of my options to make there designs make more sense but thats the basic gist.
@raenfox
@raenfox 2 года назад
You fixing weapons was one of the first videos I ever saw from you. Great to see something like it once again.
@denismorgan9742
@denismorgan9742 2 года назад
The third sword was similar to the leaf blade design of ancient times, I have often felt it should have a wide end to the handle for weight balance and functional for pulling out after stabbing motion. Putting visual with function without being to flash.
@pseudomonad
@pseudomonad 2 года назад
My eye is always just drawn straight to the pierced/narrowed bit with IT'S GONNA SNAP _HERE_
@Adam_okaay
@Adam_okaay 2 года назад
That quad bladed technicolor sword you designed looks really cool if it isn't a sword. Maybe like a portal rift or dementional tear or something.
@Pyre
@Pyre 2 года назад
Biblical Angel.
@DavidIvan-AC
@DavidIvan-AC Месяц назад
7:18 it could use a longer handle and a bit of smoothing in the blade, but other than that, it looks pretty sick
@blandedgear9704
@blandedgear9704 2 года назад
That final 'sword' has one feature that I love- that curved up spike on the back of the handle ensures that you'll grip on tight, because if you don't your hand gets cut off. Neat!
@47PWN
@47PWN 2 года назад
Hadn't have this much chuckle in while. Keep them coming please :)
@bladedth3sis
@bladedth3sis 2 года назад
Your redesigned of the last sword (before you made in uber ugly) reminds me of Lu Bu's weapon from Dynasty Warriors 6 Empires
@patrickstewart3446
@patrickstewart3446 2 года назад
Yeah. That was also the only DW game where he wasn’t the go to character (that went to SSX who became an arrow machine gun) Sure, he lost his range, but the trade-off was that he also looked stupid.
@Kabissz
@Kabissz 2 года назад
Well done the editing on this video, gold star!
@Trigfire
@Trigfire 2 года назад
If you feel like doing this again, may I suggest looking at and analyzing Leanwolf's Better Shaped Weapons mod in Skyrim? It's one of my favorite, and basically must-have, mods and they went about fixing the ugly paddle-swords Skyrim has while preserving the design intent of the original. And I think they did a great job overall! I think it would be fun to look at how someone else did it.
@blackc1479
@blackc1479 2 года назад
Gotta admit, that second one w the swept back guard? Before I got what it was, I figured it was a spikey pole arm/sword breaker. And honestly, I think that could actually be effective at least in that role.
@MrImastinker
@MrImastinker 2 года назад
Simplicity is the golden rule. Decorate it, sure. Add some interesting little details. But the base design has to at least be practical.
@DatBoiOrly
@DatBoiOrly 2 года назад
K.I.S.S is the golden rule in engineering as a whole keep it simple stupid same applies to weapons of course ;)
@Brandon34098
@Brandon34098 2 года назад
it should always be more impressive than what you can remember but should at least be able to remember the outline in basic geometric shapes
@whitewolf3051
@whitewolf3051 2 года назад
Couldn't agree more. Even games that have simple menus and battle mechanics tend to over design weapons and armor for the sake looking cool, looking at Elder Scrolls (Skyrim) as well as Dragon Quest series.
@jurtheorc8117
@jurtheorc8117 2 года назад
Darksiders' Chaoseater intensifies. In terms of shape, at least. It's got a load of faces engraved on the blade and i can't recall every specific one of them --there's a broad, wailing human one on the middle part, some smaller wailing heads above and a more demonic-looking bitey one at the tip-- but make a silhouette out of it, and you will recognize it immediately. In part thanks to some pieces of damage the blade has suffered over time, like the broken ring pommel and a vertical slit at the point that ends in a smaller circle.
@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947
@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947 2 года назад
Middle ground for me is the golden rule.
@mrchunky5132
@mrchunky5132 2 года назад
I just wanted to say, Skall has got me into hema, and I’ve been doing it for 3 years now. I just wanted to say thanks because I’ve met great people and it made me a lot happier all because of this man.
@tlotpwist3417
@tlotpwist3417 2 года назад
I went back to playing DAI and saw again that blade in the Halamshiral quest where an emissary is killed in the gardens: it looks like a fancy corckscrew plunged in the guy's back. Laughed at the idea he was killed like a Bordeaux's wine cork
@Raptanax
@Raptanax 2 года назад
It would be interesting to have another video looking at magic swords and more specifically, speculation on what a sword fight might look like between people who could both see a few seconds into the future, weapons that could become solid or ethereal, swords that launch wasps at your opponent, or produce clouds of dark mist. Things like that. I enjoyed the last video you made about that sort of thing. Though it is fun to watch you fix these paddle abominations too.
@Kreln1221
@Kreln1221 2 года назад
*I'm firmly in the, **_"Form follows Function",_** camp... Every design element should be there for a specific utilitarian purpose, whether they be ergonomic, for structural integrity, balance, etc...*
@noobatredstone3001
@noobatredstone3001 2 года назад
16:03 it does look nice though.. the shapes are actually grouped in a way that does not overload the picture. Can’t argue with it being ridiculous though lol
@redlunatic2224
@redlunatic2224 2 года назад
The last one should have the "intentionally ugly" label from the carcass sword applied because it's clearly intentionally chaotic and you could still figure out how to hold it. I'd say that the penultimate thing was worse. Its shape is all over the place and even if you split it, the handle is positioned in the weirdest of angles. I think making it an asymmetrical shuriken-like thing actually provides it with better grip.
@ryugaminemikado5584
@ryugaminemikado5584 2 года назад
Great video as always skall, would love to see more of this.
@graysonofthewood3747
@graysonofthewood3747 2 года назад
I’m several days late, but this was HILARIOUS and fun. Thanks Skall
@Philip-qq7ql
@Philip-qq7ql 2 года назад
Is it just me or is this video reuploaded? I remember like a week ago receiving a notification of a new video with a similar tumbnail and when ai went to your channel i couldnt find it
@WARLORD626
@WARLORD626 2 года назад
Lightning's sword design is good if you noticed it's like a hook sword and the hook design look's cimilar to a horses head not mention the spiked like design has a feather and lightning like design,it seems like design is to be a replacement for Cloud's 7 Tsurugi swords when it comes to dual wielding not to mention that the giant weapon is made for Lightning's summoning.
@judsongaiden9878
@judsongaiden9878 2 года назад
5:21 Exactly what I was expecting you to point out the moment I saw it. 10:22 If yer gripe pertains to ergonomics or functionality, then it's coming from a place of objective technical analysis.
@juliusnesakysiu4778
@juliusnesakysiu4778 2 года назад
When he realizes what he made at 17:03 fucking cracked me up xD
@ryszakowy
@ryszakowy Год назад
- this is a sword. - looks like physical form of aneurysm
@CheapCreep
@CheapCreep 2 года назад
Fantasy swords look like gas station cigarette lighters.
@Erikjust
@Erikjust 2 года назад
Question about fantasy swords or more accurate sci-fi. In Warhammer horus heresy and 40k the space marines called the world eaters. Where known to mimic their leader Angron who was a gladiator and attach a chain to their axehandles and wrap the chain around their arm. In real life would that offer any advantage or be practicle In any way or would it asking to get your arm hurt?
@MunkyDrag0n
@MunkyDrag0n 2 года назад
If you are not kratos, attaching a weapon to your arm via a chain is not a good idea
@ANDELE3025
@ANDELE3025 2 года назад
The way angron, kratos and co attach them, no, other than getting the chain stuck when you are transitioning between swings or from swing back to a guard, pull or counter. Angron back in his Artificer Armour tho just attaching power axes with chains to the attachment point of the swap between regular vs power gauntlets tho would be really nice in cases he goes raging simply due to a single bitchslap from him effectively being 4 elephants and 12 hippos covered in spikes and shot up with drugs compressed to a torso sized hand.
@blackdemonfox5719
@blackdemonfox5719 2 года назад
the sword at 7:50 i think could be shortened a bit and the handle extended and it would make a really cool fantasy dagger
@kalajel
@kalajel 2 года назад
Skall looks at fantasy swords. "Okay, roll SAN check."
@aktin3080
@aktin3080 2 года назад
Oh, the moral dilemma I face in video games when I have to choose a sword with high damage but ugly design or a sexy sword but low damage. Great video Skall would love to see more fantasy swords.
@Guyinadifferentroom
@Guyinadifferentroom 2 года назад
Video game logic: "This weapons more powerful, it's got jewels in it."
@lukalalosevic200
@lukalalosevic200 2 года назад
Dmc one , it acts like a exhaust giving the sword acceleration , its not to shoot fire at enemies . Quite cool idea .
@AghiTron
@AghiTron 2 года назад
If I broke into someone's house and they pulled one of these off the wall, I'd be terrified. I came here to steal something, not get blamed for the injuries they're about to influct on themselves.
@PorktatoesSSRB
@PorktatoesSSRB 2 года назад
15:25 i thought that was an Insect Glaive until you explained it was from the Final Fantasy series lol
@destroyerinazuma96
@destroyerinazuma96 2 года назад
In Final Fantasy XIV, the level 50 blacksmith quest requires to forge a longsword for a pro gladiator. The design is surprisingly simple yet elegant. If you find the footage on RU-vid you'll see that the sword looks rather fictional.
@shizanketsuga8696
@shizanketsuga8696 2 года назад
17:47 Voilá indeed. That's what you call a proper Unicorn Puke Swastika Sword.
@Shinobubu
@Shinobubu 2 года назад
pointy bits pointing at it's wielder. 10/10 would get poked again.
@strider_hiryu850
@strider_hiryu850 2 года назад
3:13 it's the Holy Moonlight Greatsword!!!!
@dogehkiindogeborn5339
@dogehkiindogeborn5339 2 года назад
the design at 15:00 is fantastic, it's clearly a Dwemer sword from TES (whether official or not idk) and it's more fancy than the usual approach to said swords while also being more sleek and proportionate, I fucking love it. Although I'e prefer a one-handed blade witb a short handle, the lack of a proper hilt wouldn't be fun on a 2hander which makes a shield unusable.
@marklucachev6695
@marklucachev6695 2 года назад
lol these are great. I especially like when you fix them. Honestly Skall these are some of my favorite of your videos :)
@robijakus6860
@robijakus6860 2 года назад
17:34 this would make a pretty okay shuriken tho if we forgive the fact that it's going to break into a million pieces on impact
@Neiot
@Neiot 2 года назад
Nice, I love it when you upload these sorts of videos. Deliciously scrutinous with a hint of constructive criticism.
@pRahvi0
@pRahvi0 2 года назад
6:30 wow, you made it look like an actual sword.
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