PragerU and Justice: A Conservative Nightmare | Big Joel 

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I will be there at 12 pm California time! Who's with me?

@@BigJoel Big Joel Can I ask you what you willing to find faults with PragerU, but not the actions of the Left and Isla*m and all thoes crazies?

@@BigJoel I'd seriosuly be interested.

We will have to see what the Bible has to say about microchips, or else computers aren't real.

Entirety of PragerU found dead

This just in, 1+1 no longer equals 2

RIP Christianity 0 - 2020

This reminds me of when i told my mom as a kid "they say there might be life on planets far away" And she said "thats not what the bible says" like ok ms fucking buzzkill

The bible doesn't say "Thou must not be a furry" so the bible approves of furries. Oh, sorry people don't like parallels that break their argument do they.

Fun Fact: Genesis and Exodus is written in 10BC

Douwe what are you talking about

And that’s even while we’re ignoring the fact that we’re talking about subjective translations of a book that wasn’t written in English in the first place.

@@DouwedeJong WRONG! the Bible was written 60-100 years after the 'death of jesus'... so not only a sloppy translation... but his story was written in segments, generations after he lived. but yeah... wait... what was the point? lolol

Lol if this is the message they want to preach they need new source material

YES My God. How do they miss this. The bible is full of stuff about - to put it simply - how rich and powerful people bring on God's ire by exploiting poor people. Read the book of James. Prager is nonsense.

Yeah... Jesus was pretty revolutionary (assuming he existed), don't really see why this people use him in their arguments.

She read the holy book of corporatism, capitalism & racism.

This isn't Christianity, it's "Judaeo-Christianity" a bizzare amalgam that unites the most reactionary elements of both religions in order to selectively use the Old Testament to justify white supremacy.

You've gotta love how much faith they have in the comprehension skills of their audience ;)

"Justice is what you get when you go to the store for beer and ice, and they're all out of beer"

"Justice is what you get what you deserve" isn't even taught in first grade. If someone hits you, you shouldn't hit them back as hard as you can. If you think someone steals from you, you shouldn't make it your mission to steal from them also. You should get the teacher and have them solve it with you: most likely it's all just a misunderstanding. Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. These PragerU types have a less developed sense of justice than a kindergartner

All the reading that you so doesn't change the definition of justice.

@@lemondrizzlecake7766 I've found most progressives to be sorely lacking in elementary comprehension. They are highly contradictory. Down with the patriarchy!! Yay Islam!

Smh Dennis should follow this :/

The Judaeo in Judaeo-christian really pisses me off.

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YEP it's such a big part of the jewish bible seeing it used here as synonymous with the christian one made me feel extremely icky (and im an athiest lol)

But they hate Jeebus!! /S

It's 2020. Haven't we learned enough to separate religion from government? I'm a Christian too, btw ;)

Thank goodness left leaning Christians are the only ones that should exist , Jesus was into social justice

@@patricktsai2303 Oh absolutely, you nailed it. If you don't separate them then it's not religion.

@@noway325 Eh, I have mixed feelings on those types of claims, I think a lot of politics are left up to agency and choice and not directed through spiritual revelation necessarily. Jesus Christ taught to care more about people than personal possessions, and to love everyone equally without bigotry, but those aren't inherently political values.

I'd hard disagree with that. It's less that Christianity itself should be a political ideology, and more that certain political views are emergent from holding Christian values. Like, Christ instructs us to turn the other cheek, but the Criminal Justice system is formed from the premise that we should punish people for the things we dictate are their crimes. Thus, to be a Christian, you can't support the criminal justice system.

Imagine not doing that and being accused of it.

@@randomboy3m98 lmao she literally said that though wdym

it isn't justice if people die for crimes they didn't commit.

​@@mammoneymelon SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!!!!

I'm embarrassed how long it took me to arrive at the question "wait, why does bail even exist?" like either you're a danger to the environment while you're waiting to be tried in a court of law or not. everyone gets it or no one should get it. Also just within the last couple years where I learned the phrase "when a crime is dealt with simply by paying a fine that means 'legal with a fee'"

@@mammoneymelon i mean...didn't jesus also do that?

@@thejuiceking2219 Jesus died for the good of all mankind, something He was specifically sent to earth to do. when random people of color are killed for no reason, they are not martyrs or sacrifices. they are just victims of a corrupt system

hey! I saw your video on Treasure Planet ages ago, and I loved it. Nice to see you here!

uber ate

I don't get this joke but love it anyway

Uber eats'd 😪

Uummmm...The simple answer is that you can eat a gyro because of prudence (or common sense) and natural law. Natural law was discovered before Christianity while prudence and natural law are still used today in Christianity

sakor88 these are some badass excerpts

@Krónika It's been discovered multiple times that the original Hebrew text said "man shall not lie with boy". Seems the Catholics lost that page

@sakor88 many christians conveniently forget about the parts they don't agree with.

I remember many passages in the bible that say to love (and assist if I recall correctly) the widow, the orphan, and the alien.

@Krónika Didn't say it was progressive. Merely that even surface level reading of the text shows a concern for some kind of social justice, making her statement wrong.

they really aren't jewish at all, big joel, and I'm honestly a little disappointed you just assume that because this christian org claims to have anything to do with judaism it does

@Michael The Snacker It's nothing new. It's been around since the early 1900s, but around 1980 it started being used as a bit of a dogwhistle for "anti-multiculturalism"

On behalf of christians (non-protestant), we're rolling our eyes too

When I look at what "Christian" values were throughout history. I see a lot of oppressing the Jews. Just something to think about whenever these people say "Judeo-Christian".

@@hewhomustnotbenamed5912 exactly. Judeo-christian is a way for christians to once again co-opt Judaism to themselves while sounding intellectual and making themselves feel better. The truth is Judaism is a lot closer to islam that it ever will be to Christianity, and it's very culturally christian (which is not the same as being religiously christian don't @ me) to assume that there is any tangible connection between Judaism and christianity.

these kinds of "mistakes" seem to be the rule, not the exception. You should lower your standards for Christians, it'll save you a lot of heart ache

Amen to that.

Proverbs is a storehouse of wisdom, Aaron Torres, but I believe you missed the most compelling verse in Proverbs, i.e., Proverbs 17:5: "Whosoever mocketh the poor blasphemeth his Maker; whosoever gloateth over disaster will not go unpunished."

God damn. Out-scripture mine the scripture miners. Well done.

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But the exact words "social justice" never show up in the Bible, so... There.

Haha. Fckn great thread. Short and hilarious

praise be to him

Dark Lord Elmo is consistent too.

@@liz.1328 Elmo is an undercover Dark Lord of the Sith.

Old god: "yeah, see all these people fuckin? _Burn it to the ground._ What's that? People aren't listening? Sounds like it's time for a _flood the entire earth._ new god: "Hey buddy, murder is wrong mmkay?"

that's exactly how i interpret it. using God's name in vain is using it for your own benefit. saying that YOU, a random person, could possibly know what God wants. saying that your hatred is because of God. seeing yourself as a stand-in for the Lord, implying that you are as Holy as He is

They hate "leftist" colleges, so it's only natural to deduce that none of them ever bothered to go to law school.

Yeah I really dont think they thought this argument through. I mean less than they usually do. I guess according to PU, if someone's forced at gunpoint to rob a corner shop, they should be punished in exactly the same way as someone who does it just for fun.

Careful with the term 'natural law' - it has a very different meaning to Christians. At least to those who studied theology formally.

we're the cool ones ✊

systems already fair to all races.

@@trentonmcclintock7836 no, no they do not.

When you are privileged, equality looks like tyranny.

Society run by Moses laws still exist (orthodox Jews), society run by Hamurabi laws perish. Probably the laws of Hamurabi was not good enough

hayley spencer He also failed to mention internet crime and what punishment God recommends for it. Sloppy work, Moses.

Nature doesn't even have the slightest clue of what "Justice" actually means. Or "Mercy". These are merely vague concepts invented by humans in an attempt to make life easier for them.

Ohhh snap! I think this might actually be THE STRAW 😂😂🙌

I kept thinking of Javert while watching too!

As someone who avoids musicals like the plague and who hasn't read the original yet, can you bring me up to speed?

@@weatheranddarkness with pleasure....go to search bar and search a summary 🙂 boom you are up to speed!!

@@weatheranddarkness Javert is a big believer in justice, as established by the law. To him, the Law is right, always, and he sees his moral duty as enforcing the law. If the Law says a thief should be arrested and imprisoned, he will do it, for that is Justice. If the thief is a child stealing a single loaf of bread... the law says that thieves are to be imprisoned, and justice must be served. He does not make moral decisions for himself, believing that the judgement of one man is no authority to overturn the law as it is written. In modern terms, he is a strict Lawful Neutral. The Law is Justice, and Justice is the Law. Jean Valjean is a very repentant criminal: A convict who broke parole and went on the run, after being arrested and harshly sentenced for a very minor crime. As a criminal, even on parole, he has no chance at rebuilding his life - no landlord will rent to him, no employer will hire him, there is no legitimate occupation available, no customer would trust him, and the police would be constantly looking for any excuse to throw him back in prison. With society seemingly determined to view him always as irredeemable criminal scum, he flees and tries to build a new life under a false identity. The conflict between them is inevitable: To Javert, Jean is a criminal who has escaped the law: Every step he takes as an escapee is an affront to the concept of justice, and justice can only be served when the criminal is back behind bars where he belongs.

It kinda does: its founder is jewish, it makes pro-israel propaganda, and it makes plenty of theological arguments. Not good ones, and not ones that exclusively apply to judaism, but still.

Christian conservatives favor Judaism because it says in the bible that Jebus won't return unless the Holy Land is in the hands of the Jews. Sounds like contradictory nonsense to me, but that's why fundies are so pro-Israel.

@@PlatinumAltaria yeah hes pro Israel, but it's also kind of contradictory that a jew is arguing against social justice. I guess if someone told him about anti semitism he'd call them out for being s leftist.

@@alexturlais8558 It's not contradictory at all. The problem is that you're thinking of all jews as essentially victims. Dennis Prager isn't a victim of anything, he's the kind of person who victimises others.

@@PlatinumAltaria I'm not saying all Jews are victims, it's just I wonder if he knows that jews have sometimes needed a bit of social justice.

Because everything is about society.

I'd argue it's a bit more complicated than that, and Hell is very much a metaphor, but, basically, yeah. It's nowhere in the Bible.

I need WAAAAAAY more drugs for this to begin making sense.

They chose the name because it sounds good, not because it represents their ideals in any way.

The difference is that olive garden makes something I like

@@matthewct8167 Mmm that bread tho

yeah but I can still get vegetables at the olive garden I can't get an education at prager U lol

PragerU: when you’re here, you’re part of my traditional gay hating, poor loathing, big government despising family!

Or Dr. Pepper is actually practicing medicine

Well, if you don't know who the bad people are then how can you convince yourself that you're one of the good ones? Sound moral judgment? Pfffft.

I think justice is supposed to be about restoration not vengeance.

@uwau That's working under the assumption that two people who commit the same crime will be judged and punished the same and that is laughably not true in pretty much any society.

@uwau I disagree. Humanity's greatest crimes against itself have all been seen as legal by the leadership that carried it out. Slavery was legal, genocide was legal, wealth hoarding is legal, denying human rights to social minorities is legal because the people that legalized it had something to gain from it. What is deemed "justice" is defined by partial authorities.

@uwau this is the thing tho, lying or corrupting the system for the sake of becoming more powerfull or for your own personal interests is also part of the human behaviour, so your logic in flawd in every way posible.

Or Taco Bell. Curious🤔.

Or a round earth,or the earth orbiting the sun,or germ theory,or man flying,or man standing on the moon,or evolution.

Gun rights and abortion too

@@leomarvindiaz6733 Not quite true: It does mention abortion once. It gives instructions for a ritual to carry out an abortion if a woman is accused of infidelity.

@@vylbird8014 the Bible is pro abortion! 🤭

@@mstech-gamingandmore1827 There's definitely sources that are mostly unbiased out there, but they're harder to find due to major news outlets advertising and buying up the front page of google

You would almost think they are actually a left wing organization that is just trying to make the right look bad by being nuts.

@@Yipper64 psyops, psyops all the way down

@@mstech-gamingandmore1827 that was one of the most alienated shit i've ever read jeez

just FYI this "I think everyone of all walks of life can get behind the sheer lunacy that is PragerU, regardless of their social, religious, and political views" means people can support them

Shhhhhhhh

Or that he was killed by law enforcement or he was a man of color

@@rusty7984 famous jewish anarchist sjw .. Jesus christ

Wow you must be a genius I don't think any conservative noticed that when reading the Bible, and you are the first person to know this in history. I mean it's not like two criminals and the only one pardoned was the guy that accepted Jesus as God and saying 'And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.', And it's not like the whole paragraph is about why would a person claiming to be God accept an unjust punishment. No I think you should inform people about your discovery.

@@FilipCordas deriving law from the bible is horseshit , though .. No one honestly cares what the bible has to say

Well done, lol

Same 💀😂😂

So true looool

Lol😂

Fun fact: Ninjas would never dress how they're portrayed in pop culture. It would do the complete opposite of what they want; they'd stand out heavily. They'd dress in normal everyday clothes to blend in.

It would have been, if there were ever actually any Jewish slaves in Egypt. The Exodus story has zero historical evidence.

@@thatphatbaby Same for global flood or Genesis.

@@thatphatbaby To be fair, the Religion as a whole likely only was ever founded *after* the Exodus, so "Jews" as a distinct group probably didn't exist to be identified by anyone at the time. Israelites, or really any person who lives in the lands we would call Israel today, could have easily been slaves to Egypt at the time. It's a trend in ancient civilizations and given the geography, it's not out of the ordinary. Now, not ALL Israelites would be slaves, but the point is there definitely could have been any number of "Israelite Slaves" in Ancient Egypt at one point, it's not impossible.

No internet for Christian's

Explains why being anti-vax is considered religious by some

The Bible never said a single thing about Praeger U, which means its bad.

Damn the bibble doesn't say if I should keep bringing up the bibble joke from Aqua Teen Hunger force so I guess I should stop

Air buds law

Christians are literally supposed to advocate for social justice lmaow it's church doctrine

the term social justice can be heard at just about every catholic theology class or RCIA class and the catholic interpretation of it largely overlaps with the progressive interpretation of it so Prager are just completely wrong (shocking i know)

This is the worst argument I have ever seen it so bad but so funny. It is like saying school never taught you how to get a job so you can't get one. Also abortion is murder on unborn child and the Bible say "You shall not murder" I can only think of one instance were abortion can be okay and that to save the mother's life but I want to hear you opinion why do you think abortion is okay.

@@zSteve1231 my brother in christ wtf are you on about

@@TheMoistestNugget what do you mean?

Even the real justice system does generally understand that and sentences are made by judges on this basis.

not only that, but addressing the causes for the poor man’s crimes could lead to solutions that prevent crimes like it in the future

It's PragerU, so the answer is probably just "they don't care". If you are rich, it's because you worked hard and had success. If you are poor, it therefore must be because you haven't worked hard enough, so any social issue you might be having is in your own hands. It's a stupid, short-sighted way to see the world, but it's one I've seen a lot.

@@pheonixrises11 Exactly. Arrest a man for trying to feed his son and all you will get is his son stealing to feed himself, or starving to death.

Empathy is too inconvenient.

They like to emphasize 'historically' as if to imply it's no longer the case. Beautifully deflecting the inequalities of the system onto a distant and undefined 'past' we've supposedly grown out of, whilst fighting tooth and nail to preserve the system causing the inequalities.

My God...

a brave choice. I hope she perseveres and finds a way to manage this

@jomiloju ayodele how did you even come to that conclusion

@@_SHIN1999 in the field, and with her qualifications. She forewent a better paying job to be a public defender and had a lower salary as a result. The system allows money to buy lawyers for both the prosecution and defendants, but if you don't have money, you get public lawyers. I imagine there are not many public prosecutors because that would mean someone without the means to afford an attorney is being assigned one to prosecute someone. We all know poor people don't get to sue, who would pay for the lawsuit? That's... the whole point of the problem. Basically

Agreed

oh my GOD XD (pun intended)

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Lmao, this should be a comment on their video

Saying free the jews is racist because everyone should be freed. That's not justice, its social justice.

Wow. I never thought of it that way.

But that was back when the justice system was flawed I guess, and ours completely perfect or something. Like, you can't improve or critize it, that would be blasphemous. At least that's what their defence is.

They approve of Jesus being crucified every time they defend a cop killing an unarmed person today. "As you have done unto the least of these, so you have done unto Me."

I mean, don't most Christians approve of Jesus' crucifixion as Jesus accepted it and it cleansed humanity of it's sins?

@@peterprime2140 Yes, but they still consider the trial unjust. The fact that Jesus subjected himself to such indignity makes his sacrifice even greater. At least that's my interpretation - I don't know what the actual doctrine is, I am not a christian, let alone a teologian.

Surprise 🙄

They did that in another video, too: "imagine this crazy dystopia where the left wins everything, private health insurance is abolished and replaced with national health care, UBI is standard..." Hmm yes that sounds nice actually

That's blame shifting. No one makes anyone commit crime

absolute nightmare /s

@@edwinamendelssohn5129 there are plenty of scenarios where people are forced into places where they need crime. And anyone could end up in that type of situation. The fact that we don't think about that, kind of crazy to me. I don't think you're wrong to think this is blame shifting. Because at the end of the day it is if you think too black and white "innocent" or "guilty" this thought can crop up in your head. Some people are bad people that need to be locked up, people who's mindset is only to hurt. but not everyone is like that, right?

they cant read

'Have they even read what they claim they're following?' Welcome to America, my dude.

which Christianity though, that is the question

The way I see it PragerU's values are firmly rooted in prosperity theology. When you believe that successfull and prosperous people are that way because of the literal will of god, and poor and marginalized people are unfaithful and disfavored by god, mercy probably won't be very important to you. If god has already judged those people to poverty, why go against that and show them any mercy?

Lol there’s literally the story of Jesus stopping the “just” stoning of the adulterous woman. Conservatives are anti Christian Christians

Somebody HAS to do it

but.... who will think of us rich white men???? 😢😢 (before anyone comes for me, i know, i know, white men can struggle too. duh. it was a joke)

Straight white cis people have it the worst because we call them out for having immense privilege. Cmon feel bad for them guys, they really need the support and validation 🥺🥺🥺😢😭.

They put their time in and pay 90 percent of the taxes yes the 10 percent pay 90 percent ps I'm a middle class son of a teacher

If socialism is good break your leg and try to get healthcare in Canada or any other socialist marxists or communist country

"The meek shall inherit the Earth" COMMUNISM IS WHEN BIBLE!!!1!!

“Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute,” (Psalm 82:3). “Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, and please the widow’s cause,” (Isaiah 1:17). “He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?” (Micah 6:8). “But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others,” (Luke 11:42).

Thank you very much sir, i was looking for this comment. Yes yes, the teachings of peace and self-sacrifice are the best basis for people wanting to legaly steal my money.

These PragerU idiots haven't even *read* the Bible.

yeah i was like: hasnt she read The Beatitudes? plus, probs cos i was required to take a lot of Catholic Theology, it was hammered into to me that the Church is a Church of the Poor

Hey, it's never too late to stop being religious.

I think "American Conservative Christian" is a useful term to lump their brand of christianity. It's a way better term than "Judeo-Christian".

PlatinumAltaria not the place dude.

I’m Muslim. Keep following the word of God and what is morally right. Be thankful to God, but remember that stuff in the Holy Texts is thousands of years old and so cannot be perfectly applied to the modern day, and so do what you believe God would want. PragerU and Dennis the Menace Prager, who is a racist homophobic greedy corporate sellout bastard are always wrong, and will be. They are the sinners. Stay true my friend

Right?? It feels like none of them read the gospels, just the first part of Romans where Paul goes on an angry homophobic rant, which is basically just his fanfic imo.

Do what is just and right. Rescue from the hand of the oppressor the one who has been robbed (Jeremiah 22:3)

go, sell what you have and give to the poor (Matthew 19:21)

Deutschland Über Alles You don't need to be Christian to understand, just to be literate.

Deutschland Über Alles but... I am Christian. You know who else was Christian? Saint Ambrose one of the founding figures of the church who said 'the superfluous property which you hold you have stolen'. Also the Liberation Theologians. But also what Tammy said.

@@basedtvrk9125 was machst du mit diesem namen hier wtf

They must be basing their version of Christianity on prosperity gospel.

I was about to comment this glad I saw yours first. “Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.” - Matthew 5:5

I saw a rare non-insane christian pastor make a tweet a few months ago about how some MAGA members of his congregation approached him after one sunday's sermon all hot and bothered saying "where'd you get all the liberal talking points?", and he was literally just quoting some scripture as is

"Whoever oppresses the poor to increase his own wealth, or gives to the rich, will only come to poverty" Proverbs 22:16, I'm not a christian but some of the bible quotes about rich and poor are pretty neat.

"The Bible never talks about social justice, stop making inferences about what Jesus meant and just obey his exact words... also Jesus loves Capitalist free markets and guns and you're going to hell if you condone abortion or homosexuality" The Christian right in a nutshell

Because Christianity was infiltrated by well-funded rabbinical movements during the Age of Enlightenment and effectively subverted into the politically-motivated Christian Zionism that we are all familiar with today.

@@evilfrasier2390 The twists and turns some people are willing to make so that they can blame the Jews for absolutely everything will never cease to both amaze and depress me.

Jesus was chill, his followers centuries later are not

Christianity is just under 2000 years old at this point and it's most influential early voice is *arguably* NOT Jesus but Paul. Jesus doesn't author any of the books of the New Testament, but almost half are attributed to Paul and almost a third are actually written by him. Now Paul was a progressive of his time but the point is just to say that Christianity has always been farm more than the "pacifist teachings of a poor middle eastern man". It has had more than 15 centuries of institutional power as the theocratic center of the Western World and institutional power is essentially incompatible with Jesus' messages. So the Church has had 15 centuries to expand its theology and its practices beyond the original scope of Jesus and the old church fathers to make sense of its institutional power. The Church of Jesus has always been a largely conservative organization, as would any organization that has held that much power for that long. Jesus only preached for 3 years before he died, that's nothing in the face of the Church's history after him. The fact his message is relevant at all to any Christians or any Christian organization is a feat itself.

- Half the world's currency owned by a couple people? "Waswrongwithat?" - Over $1.90 a day technically over the poverty line? "We all made nothing at one point or another" - All non-Christian religious peoples and organizations are regularly discriminated against? "Well, they're either terrorists, weirdos, or Jews" - Progressive leftist ideology exists "DEFCON 1 ALERT!!! RETALIATE IMMEDIATELY!!! NO MERCY!!!"

I didn't realize it when I was growing up in a private, Christian school, but these days I hear 'Judeo-Christian Values' for the right wing theocracy dogwhistle that it is, and walk away. Although admittedly sometimes they just mean 'Abrahamic but not Muslims'. Not that it's any better that way.

Ah yes, the "great battle of our time" is between a loosely conceived concept and a completely undefined concept. "The great battle of our time is between people I like and people I don't like"

I've read enough Jewish people on the internet claiming this "judeo-christian" group against outsiders idea is a lie, as in, it's just Christians with entitlement issues dragging Jews along just to feel or sound slightly more legit

@@mariamatedei Just to not be called "antisemites".

Thank you! Using that term is for the express purpose of disguising anti semitism in a thin veil of dogshit rhetoric. And to keep people from in their view “cherry picking” their own religious texts.

that reminds me of that one time someone used "judeo christian" when talking about christmas. christ. mas. its so dumb.

@@AshiwiZuni Also, using it to say "Abrahamic" (as in religions that believe in God / come from Abraham and his sons as the Jewish, Christians and Muslim do / are), but not wanting to include Muslim people into that because "Middle-East bad and terrorist"

i genuinely have no idea what that's supposed to mean 😭 i get that Christianity and Judaism have the same origins but it almost never has anything to do with what someone is talking about

Judeo-Christians beliefs ARE a thing. They're the beliefs you and I, a Christian, share. These include and are absolutely, 100% limited to: •There is a God •He exists •He is good •Some guys said He was good, but precisely who, when, and how it was said He was good and what qualities He had that made Him good are not in agreement among Judaism and Christianity and are therefore not subject to the shared beliefs persuant to the strict standards and foundational principles of the "Judeo-Christian" moniker •Things happened in the past, of which many relate to religion •??? •There is a God, who does, in fact, exist •That God is, in fact, good • • That's the complete list-no exceptions, no abridgements! Now you know what Judeo-Christian means! Hoped this helped! :) EDIT: I realize I should make this absolutely clear: this is a joke. I don't know if this translated; my jokes aren't known for landing without breaking a half-dozen bones. In all seriousness here, unfortunately I can't offer any real insight into what the heck Dennis is rambling on about. Whatever the origin behind "Judeo-Christian" is, it's clearly not evident to Jewish people _or_ Christians.

and said 'it is easier for a rich man to enter heaven' because god loves greed.

You first have to come to terms with the fact that jesus and gop jesus are not the same guy. Jesus healed lepers, gop jesus only heals lepers with in-network insurance but only after he orders 50 unnecessary and invasive tests to maximize profits

Yes I believe Jesus sat down with those money-changers and broke bread with them, praising their "free" market principles .....

@@sjs9698 'you sir you made my day have a cookie

He did eat with Pharisees

got my vote!

There's a lot of misinformation about Nietzsche going around. I don't agree with everything he taught, but I wish people wouldn't just instantly denounce him without reading anything about him.

@@anthonyhayes1267 Who's opposing Nietzsche? his work is fantastic,although it's abused by traditionalists,even though the death of god doesn't necessarily mean the deconstruction of strange traditions.

Don't kinkshame

And yet we effectively do lessen sentences for people who are wealthy, when many crimes carry a fixed fine. We don't even keep rich people in prison before the trial, with the bail system: Those with wealth can just reach for their bank account and go about their lives untouched while their expensive lawyers look for a loophole, while the lower economic classes either stay locked up without a conviction or have to go into considerable debt at a very high interest rate.

It's kinda weird that so few people though of that.

@@vylbird8014i think you mean lessen sentences but YES THANK YOU! if the punishment for a crime is a fine, that punishment is for the poor only.

@@wellheck1377 Corrected. Also notable that corporations can commit crimes, which largely shields the actual people making the decision from the consequences of their actions. Unless they commit a truly outstanding crime, they are safely protected - the company gets fined, or perhaps some sacrificial employees are blamed. Look at the Deepwater Horizon incident for a clear example: A major industrial accident causing eleven direct fatalities and major local environmental damage caused by systemic cost-cutting policies which compromised the safe operation of the facility. BP was found to have committed gross negligence and paid fines and settlements in the billions of dollars - a few percent of their annual revenue. And not a single person is in prison. The corporate entity takes the fall, so the managers who decided to endanger lives in the interest of profit are safe from prosecution.

This is what happens when you mix religion and politics.

jamestheawsome100 I mean, religion and politics used to be inseparable for a very long time, why do you think all those European nations converted?

@@jamestheawsome100 Religion and politics are, have and will always be inseparably linked, this is what happens when you don't actually follow your religion's teachings and just use it to excuse your shitty politics.

Imagine trying to empathize with an ideology that is so strange it makes the mind warp in mysterious ways in order to even attempt to make anything coherently fit.

@@jamestheawsome100 "Social justice" as a term was invented by Christians

As an atheist raised under a Catholic home, doesn’t it say that God creates all humans in his image without exception? To offer justice to the weak and fatherless? I was never quite sure why fascists gather around Christianity...

@@goroakechi6126 Christianity is a convenient pillar to gather fascist support around in preparation for the persecution of non-Christians. Of course, "Christians" quickly becomes "Protestants" and then "Baptists" and then "The Cult of Dear Leader."

that’s it! you broke the evangelical church down to its bare essentials

hard to disagree with that. i hope we'll win lol.

"Judeo"-Christian values

Especially since since Jesus is more liberal than most Democrats.

The coexistence is what they're scared of. It's why they made this video.

I don’t think they can, but then again I think christianity is evil. Satanist, here.

@@Cajek2 Satanism is worse lmao

@Jonathon The Egoist good argument

For conservatives, if you don't look the way they want you to look, you're the enemy.

You're right. I'm a Christian, and I find it sad people on the left and right use Gods word for their gain.

@@ashtonsherrod7824 I’ve only seen ppl on the left bring up god is to point out the hypocrisy of the right. The left doesn’t use religion to justify its beliefs, from what I’ve seen at least.

Exactly.

I will never understand the want to punish instead of reform. If someone is stealing should we not look at why and attempt to fix it so others may not end up in that situation again? Should we not make those who have done crimes they regret go through being reformed to see how to behave in society?

BTW it's a stolen valor. God gave those laws. Moses was the postman.

@@HistoricaHungarica THIS. ty.

King Lamoni?

Fr, Moses didn't even give those damn laws, he got them from gd and delivered the documentation of it basically.

@@tomithebunny Yeah exactly

And WHAT’S their compensation? A handful of cash. No ordering your job or landlord to take you back, and no wiping felony charges so you are an innocent person LITERALLY CRIPPLED by the system.

Or the first half. The Tanakh is very social justice focused. Off the top of my head, Leviticus requires the well-treatment and acceptance of refugees.

Actually, Jesus isn't very nice towards other tribes. He's quite tribal and Hebrew centric.

made me genuinely laugh thank you

I haven’t read the bible. please explain if you get the chance

Honestly, when it comes to the Bible that Jesus guy is a pretty fringe character. He's only in about 10% of the book. Sure, he steals every scene that he's in, but he's basically a supporting actor.

Yeah Americans really support retributional justice for criminals. I don't know why. It's the complete opposite of what the Bible advocates for, so you'd think conservatives wouldn't support it. But they do. We also have decades and decades of data from other countries showing that rehabilitational justice systems are not only far more effective, but also cheaper, so you'd think that democrats wouldn't support it either. But many of them still do for some reason. It's the main thing that drives me crazy about this country. Why can't we figure this out?

It is because simply giving knowledge to people is unlikely to make them change their (bad) behaviors. Fear and--ultimately--violence have a far better track record of forcing that change. Our justice system reflects that reality to a degree, and needs to reflect that reality a lot more.

@@americasevilgenius " Fear and--ultimately--violence have a far better track record of forcing that change." Fear and violence have a better track record than just knowledge ? Sure. You know what else has an even better track record ? Giving people alternative options, thereby depriving them of any incentive to commit a crime. I'll just quote someone else's comment that quite readily addresses what you said, mister evil genius : "Just look around the world. Places that have a less punitive and more restorative approach to justice tend to also have lower crime and lower recidivism overall. the USA is the only developed nation that still practices the death penalty, and how is that faring for them in terms of crime? Clearly nobody commits crimes in the USA for fear of punishment /s beside that, punitive justice only focuses on locking up the criminal after they have committed the crime. So by the definition of how it operates, it can never prevent crimes from happening. In your words, "those that do harm" are still "roaming among us", because you can't lock them up for a crime before they commit it. WOuldn't it be better to invest some resources on measures that are actually proven to reduce crime overall, such as education or social programmes, instead of only on "tough on crime" policies? It's not like policing, or prisons, are free. "

I agree that SJWs are usually annoying, but the level of unwarranted smugness and patronization that exudes from a lot of American conservatives (leaving aside their ignorance and inconsistent values) is deeply off-putting. Just look at Shapiro and Trump.

she sounds like "caught you, you leftists snowflake. Now let me go kill a criminal because of catharsis but protest against a woman disposing of a bunch of cells because her life will be ruined otherwise, you stupid snowflake."

Evil Begets Evil

@@GeistInTheMachine Don't forget Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. I've been right-leaning for 20 years, but I can't stand their smugness. I used to like Hannity's show when it was balanced out by Colmes.

Agreed

DuskyDancing Yes..... it's almost as if Jesus was an advocate of ...... 😱 social justice ....

So basically the cops killed Jesus?

J Davi Soldiers working for the Roman Empire. Comes to the same thing.

PragerU Roast King Joel the Great

​@@mstech-gamingandmore1827 You didn't have to sneak social distancing propaganda in there. And no I'm not against it per say, I'm just against it when it's forced on people I'm not some salty conservative because if I was I wouldn't be watching this video. My belief is that humans are 100% responsible for the chaotic state their world has been in recently and if we had just let the virus run its natural course in the first place we would, as a species, come out stronger then ever

@@coilcreature What the fuck lol

Capitalism and communism weren't mentioned in the Bible either, yet for some reason people seem oddly obsessed about finding ways to justify unregulated free markets and denounce its alternatives with religion.

i mean, concepts analogous to "social justice" (and injustice) definitely existed back then and are extremely prominent in the bible (bc how would they not be).... it's just that "social justice" is a very specific Modern English expression and the Bible was not written in Modern English

Thank you for the comment! It's better than I could write the same thing.

“Repairing the World” Holy shit, that’s an awesome term.

@vacantVisionary I've never heard of Tikkun Olam before. Could you please recommend some good resources for me to learn more about it? Thanks in advance!

Fuck I wrote basically the same thing and then scrolled down to see this.

Not even Christian values really, just Western Conservative Christian values.

Thankful porn pre-dates the bibble!

@@rodawallace Spends hours looking at ancient vases showing people having bizarre sex.

The Bible is actually a really good resource supporting social justice, though, and countering capitalism. It's why they picked such a shitty half of a sentence and went with it as if it self-evidently proved their argument. That very chapter talks about oppression, and that verse is God offering compassion to the nation if they will stop oppressing. It says the exact opposite of what they claim.

I hate that argument, "jesus couldn't have been a socialist because the word didn't exist back then!!1!!!!11" yeah sure, then let's forget neardenthals even existed since they didn't have a name back then

@Krónika "There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies." There are more verses that call "false scales" an "abomination" than men sleeping with one another, and there's plenty of linguistic, contextual and archeological evidence that "men lying with men" is a reference to pedophilia and rape, not consensual relationships.

I think they say this so they can focus on the old testament stuff.

Doctor Speedweed 👍 2:05 I get that there's the Christian right, but I find that Jews are usually on the left - Bernie Sanders comes to mind. "Christian values vs. Judeo-leftist values" would make more sense.

I agree, my best guess is that they really mean "non- or anti-muslim" unfortunately.

As a Christian, Prager U doesn't represent my values, and I wish people would stop conceding far right bigotry and other nonsense as "Christian values".

It's like "European culture" - they just arbitrary group things together, since the actual purpose of the grouping is in what it excludes not what it includes.

I think they do that because in this way they can better support their very conservative policies

And to exclude Muslims by not just saying Abrahamic

Philosophy tube just dropped his vid on antisemitism, this and Joel are really popping up my week.

@@lafuffarosa562 I think it's a little deeper than that. The term "Judeo-Christian values" feels like an attempt by jewish conservatives to try and join the club of their fascists christian counterparts, while ignoring how much they have hated them (and for the most part still do). "We are all on the same team, we all have the same values, even if you think we control the world and you want us dead. Now, the muslims, those are the real bad guy here."

fionatastic0.0 Even though all three of these religions are just offshoots of each other

It would be funny if it weren't so horrifying.

What about purgatory?

@@theblandcharlie822 Purgatory isn't ever implicitly or explicitly mentioned Biblically speaking, not to mention that PU is a heavily protestant, bible-belt Baptist angle, so the Catholic concept of purgatory is highly unlikely to be considered by their position.

@@Nudgarrobot ah..

I really like your calling them "PU." Seems so obvious now, but the subtle dig is just

It’s been a couple of months. How do you feel now? Genuinely interested. No judgement. Full disclosure, I’m completely areligious (not a word I think). Can’t get my head around faith at all so I miss a lot in these discussions

Hello fellow human. Like Avi, reaching out. Hope you see this. The answer is that religion, and christianity in particular, can be used for good or ill. It is a human's prejudices that decide what messages they see in scripture. If one believes that genetics determines criminality, empathy, intelligence, and other traits, then one might read the bible as pragerU does. On the other hand, if one reads study after study showing that one's environment, access to nutrition and varied educational experience plays a huge part in how one forms later in life, one might indeed heed to the socialist values espoused. I myself am not religious in any sense, and only vaguely spiritual. I believe humans can decide for themselves to be empathetic to others, or to close themselves in rigid dogmatic thought. It doesn't require a divine being to say 'be good'. We can observe the effects of our actions on others, and choose to do the things that help each other. Edit: Spelling.

That's just one of the reasons I don't like "jesus". If he ever existed, he was a commie.

@@guilhermegoldman Communists are good though. Compared to Capitalists, at least. And compared to you; a worm

@@willywonka7812 you know you're going to hell, right, Willy? You're rich as fuck.

Go beyond that. There is a reason against the death penalty that is purely capitalist and beyond any compassion. It simply costs less to give someone life in prison than to put them on death row. That shows its for no reason beyond revenge and cruelty.

@@NotSomeone68 I said it was an argument to convince any *sane* human - but you are absolutly right: we know that the pro-life death cultists are not part of this category, so it might be more helpful to argue with solely monetary reasons - after all a monetary reason is a good reason for them. Hell, even russia put a hold on the practice of death penalty, and I'm not aware of any western state besides the US still doing it.

Wouldn't that imply that no criminal ever ought to be released because the recidivism rate is never zero?

@@Nimish204 No, it wouldn't.

@@kai_plays_khomus it would. If you believe that even executing one innocent person is too much, to me, it logically follows then, if even one person released after murder commits a murder again, that would justify locking all of them up for life. Because according to you, even one innocent person killed is too much. Now if you believe that executing a person is somehow worse than being murdered, I don't know how you believe that.

PragerU, basically a shitty TedTalk

Critical thought equals critical theory which equals the frankfurt school which equals neomarxism which equals marxism which equals nihilism which is against god so free thought is a sin

yes and also (in addition to the very real theological differences in approach to "sin" and "redemption," plus the stated goal of following each religion; in Christianity, it's to free yourself from sin and avoid Hell, while in Judaism it's to live the most ethical and holiest life you can in observance with your covenant with God and following/studying His word), it's a bit fucked up to claim we're basically the same group when Christians spent literal centuries being violently anti-Semitic.

it's invokes the anathomy of bullshit aka Deepack Chopra, PragerU, Jordan Peterson, examples: cultural marxism, postmodern neomarxism

"Judeo-Christian" is just PragerU wanting to say "Abrahamic" but not wanting to include Islam

It's actually pretty widely used in theological academics and religion studies, like exegesis and even archeology, when describing pre-church era where there was no clear division yet. Most Jesus' followers were Jews and they were essentially a sect. It's even a bit anachronistic to say "Jewish" because there was no such category as religion, hence "Judeo" refers to the etho-cultural position of that part of the Roman empire population as people, not necessarily members of a distinct religious tradition. Scholars of any background rarely speak about "Judaism" before the destruction of the second temple when the service in Jerusalem started to fade and the tradition sifted to synagogues around rabbinic lead, and the new literate traditions of Midrash and Talmud. In same way "Christian" should not be understood in this context as a modern type of organized religion, it was a movement comparable to ancient mystery cults popping in and out of existence those times. It's literature expected the hearers to have wide knowledge of Judean heritage and culture and it's forming theology tried to answer to both Judean monotheistic and Greek philosophical problematics. "Judeo-Christian" means not only did Christianity rise from Judean lineage but Christ followers also had an influence on the formation of post-temple Judaism. After all they were both minorities in the time of Roman governance. The term is also a way to describe the formation of Mediterranean culture in cross pressure of Greek philosophy and Judean monotheism under Roman rule. It doesn't try to give a statement on Abrahamic tradition, because there was no such thing that time, That's way later. One last thing needs to be said, and that's the fact that after canonization of the scripture the "Judeo-Christian" influence refers to the role of both Old and New testament in European culture. Even though Christianity started reading the Tanakh with cross shaped classes, the influence of Judean tradition and world view was there shaping the Christianity centered culture of European areas through the textual mythos. We need to remember that at that point the different faith groups were fairly separated and Islam doesn't really play a part here yet before 8th-10th centuries when Muslim led political influence starts spreading around Mediterranean. This is not to say they are using the term correctly. They absolutely are not. It simply doesn't apply there. What they are trying to stress is the value of written law as a basis of religious understanding of justice, but the conclusion is horrendous, which makes it at least offensive to refer to such cultural category as any sort of valuable argument.

Yes! I hate the term Judeo-Christian. It has nothing to do with Judaism.

woah. And here I was thinking the Law was supposed to be fair and just....I'm truly sorry about what Happened to your friend. We live in such an unjust world.

Anyone would. Look at the loss of sanity those who make and edit the PU vids go through. Tragic, just tragic.

Pouncer Lion Or look at YTPs of PragerU, these people are lost causes

I was for a bit, actually, until I looked further into it and realized they barely ever mentioned their sources, and what little they did mention was often heavily biased and unreliable. I tried to use one of their videos as an essay source, and then I realized that, despite the fact that the video said "studies show," I couldn't find any materials aside from the video that contained those studies, much less actually showed their results. Psychologically, it's easy to fall into that shit.

@@foxcheetah6035 Good on you for getting out using logical reasoning. Misinformation like that is specifically designed to trap people, even people like you who are capable of seeing through such bullshit. It's everyone's responsibility to look out for such traps and not fall into them, because pretty much anyone is capable of falling for misinformation campaigns like PragerU.

@@foxcheetah6035 i stopped being friends with this one guy cuz he kept spamming me with prageru vids...also at one time he spammed me with straightup porn...and also possesses no critical thinking capabilities and called me a liberal because i was angry he didnt agree with me but in reality i was angry because he chose to be illiterate.

All that stuff about how great charity and forgiveness and literally NOT BEING RICH (something about a camel through the eye of a needle) are great too? Apparently that's not relevant

@@herefortheshrimp1469 Matthew is rarely taken as a moral guide by Christians. there are actually quite a number of arguments against Matthew and for John

This reminds me of the time i got into an argument with one of these christianoconservacucks and brought up the beatitudes. Sumbitch nearly spat in my face. Apparently in some schools of thought The Beatitudes are essentially apocrypha.

@@leekeater1527 1) what are these arguments and 2) how is the morality of John any different?

Well, because you're not supposed to like yourself - you are only supposed to like Jesus and God and literally no one else

Girl Defined is absolutely unhinged and not in a good way. They have some of the worst takes I've ever seen in my life, and I've seen a lot of bad takes.

id like a link or a source for where you saw someone advocating for that cops side of the story. personally, I have not seen that once.

MDL48 no one explicitly side with the cops, but some people like to invoke Floyd’s criminal past, saying “he was no angel” and whatnot. the problem with this is that he already served his time for those crimes, and bringing them up implies that he deserved his fate, whether that’s the intention or notz

@@useroffline9999 nobody is implying that he deserved what he got. what they're saying is that he does NOT deserve all the posthumous worship and elevated status that he has recieved, and that people should not be destroying the country, looting, and killing more people in his name.

Lostin Thegarden what posthumous worship ? The saying is justice George Floyd. People bring up the fact that he was a father with a young daughter and that’s really about it. People fighting for his rights we’re doing their best to “rehumanize” him after media outlets like Fox News were doing there best to broadcast his past in pornography and possibly drug usage.

@@Communistkittens The thing is, you never see reactionaries claiming 'he was no angel' when a white guy is murdered.