@@dewangbakshy7789 It's not unbeleivable at all. You know when laundry detergent companies have you write a letter explaining why you love TIDE in order to enter a draw to win money? Well the reason they do this is because every time you write or say something you commit to it. Blaire has spent YEARS committing herself to this, so no - it isn't surprising at all. She's probably as unable to separate her personality and lifestyle from these politics as anyone on 4chan.
Unbelievable how she can just say that in her first statement. I'm sure she also complains about how hateful and intolerant the left is, right? So extremely hateful and Blaire White stayed on instead of immediately leaving. And yet she still claims LGBT people are less accepting of her than Republicans. It's hard to have sympathy for someone like that.
Its always "FREEDOM, IN THE LAND OF THE fReEeE" until someone uses said freedom to do something with their own bodies and time that doesnt affect anyone else in any way
@@Fxmbro it's people like that blonde hag that make me believe more and more that democracy truly doesn't work and that we need a woke totalitarian state to actuallyget progress done
just like when people open carried guns to protect a drag show and for the first time in history Fox News bashed the second amendment and called for something to be done about a gun issue
I think to conservatives, your body belongs to humanity...and depending on what you do with your body, humanity's "property" needs to follow the quote on quote "natural order". I know this, because they always give this sentiment when speaking of others and what they do to their bodies. You have to be of "use" to their own worldview.
Actually, all of the conservatives I know believe that adults should indeed be free to transition "their own bodies and time that doesn't affect anyone else in any way". I have not seen any substantial call to ban adults from voluntarily transitioning themselves at their own cost. Where the conflict comes in is when it DOES affect others - when others are coerced to participate and agree with whatever self-perception an adult trans person asserts. It's the blatent coercion of others which causes most of the pushback. To be clear, I'm not talking about "others" causing actual harm like assaulting - all people should be free of that. I'm talking more about things like punishment for "misgendering", which comprises forcing other people to (appear to) agree with whatever gender a person asserts. I'm not at the moment taking sides, just noting the difference. I can understand why some trans folks would want to control others in the way they do, and I can also understand why some others do not want to be controlled.
I disagree, while yes those are factors, trump invigorated a lot of people, and brought out so many Republicans to vote and showed the underbelly that they developed. He also brought out every person with a moral backbone to fight him
@@Vickynger Hilary got a lot of votes but not the most in democratic history and in 2020 Trump did get more than her in 2016. However, Biden got the most ever in history. And it is totally because all the reasons started above: white identity politics, ease of voting, moral outage, the pandemic.
@@kasketbase8741 Trump is easily as angry and openly bigoted as Lauren, and so is John on his own channel. The fact that Karlyn could go to a Trump rally and listen to him speak and describe it as optimistic and friendly just shows that she’s pretty openly grifting. I could maybe agree that the people at a Trump rally were nice to her (as long as you can ignore all the t-shirt and signs about murdering people) but Trump speeches are just airings of grievances.
@@Zeno06-u9j It's super sad how she doesn't realize (or simply doesn't care) that shes regurgitating the same obnoxious and bigoted opinions that people like Lauren have. Rightwingers and their mental gymnastics. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It’s the reason the Alt-right automated ban filter banned countless republicans accounts on Twitter, including politicians on the right, leading it to be removed, and why right wingers constantly whine that they’re being censored for being conservative after saying bigoted statements: Bigotry is CRUCIAL to their ideology.
@@sktgiin she criticizes trans people for existing and is like "im not like other trans im one of the good ones" while picking up the crazy extremist sjw trans activist. she isnt for racial rights either, she doesn't even believe in white privilege or other systemic issues around racism.
Yeah, hearing her try to defend her right to be a trans person to other conservatives always gives me knots in my stomach. It reminds me of when I was an ultra-conservative kid realizing that no matter what I did, I was never going to be embraced by the conservative community around me because I'm gay. Eventually, I did a complete 180° turn on my politics, but it made me feel really terrible at the time.
@@BSR-zy2so The difference is that you haven’t been making a career out of throwing other trans people to the wolves since 2015. She knew what kind of a community this would become, but she helped create it anyway.
But they also don't agree at all. They wouldn't be sitting around debating conservatism with a child abuser. So they all agree, but it doesn't mean what those words mean. It's just a thing they say about trans people.
@@deefpaladin they do not care at all about literal, actual pedophilia. pedophilia is basically just a fairytale they use to describe their political enemies like accusing them of being a witch.
I mean they're just outright fascists. They're fascists telling a trans person "we're gonna come for you", and she's saying, "no, don't come for me, I believe some of the same things as you", and they're saying "no, we're gonna come for you." That's how fascism works.
@@iexist1300 feeling trapped in a death cult always strikes me as tragic, personally. Probably a side effect of escaping one tho so I won’t begrudge you for not feeling as I do.
the dark circles around big joels eyes are a reflection of the hours of bad content he sifts through for our enjoyment, they almost match his beard. we thank you for your sacrifice
HOLY SHIT... even though joel warned us that its heavy on transphobia.... i wasn't ready for it. “The best thing you can do for us is to grow out your mustache and tell people to not live like you.” WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK MAN
@@blossom357 gender dysphoria isn't a disorder :) it's no longer medically recognized as one! also yeah this is shitty bc she's harming no one by simply being alive and living her truth.
@@insidiouslia It is a disorder. Just because doctors decided it's more lucrative to say it's not one, doesn't mean it's not. They need a psychiatrist who will give them honest questions about why they feel the way they do, to get at what caused them to think this way. Also, yes the trans community being so visible is harming people by making it seem like this generation's trendy thing to do, similar to how emo/scene, grunge, etc used to be the trend. So many people are confused about their gender who wouldn't have been due to the popularity of it.
@@readysoldier6799 You're right, there's no such thing as a transgender person because if you say you're a woman or a man no matter how you look then you're a woman or a man. :)
People watching this sympathized with her though. Obviously transphobic shit is not ok but she just got a lot of brownie points from most everyone across the political spectrum. Could be a massive boost for her.
I love that the most “intellectual” guy amongst them was like, “yeah, you know that ideology we’re here to parrot? It’s basically a lot like Hitler. Look it up!”
This reminds me quite a lot of Tara Mooknee's video on Jubilee trying to find a middle ground for both parties when the debate is between trans people and transphobes. Were the trans people supposed to go, "You know what? I agree! Your momentary discomfort is far more important than my right to work or pursue an education in a non-hostile environment."
I think conversations between those 2 ppl should def happen because bigots have to have difficult conversations to learn and grow, but its so fucked that as a society we're still stuck on this "every issue can have 2 sides" thing. Wish they framed that video in a different way
People of personality types tend to flock together. It should be of NO surprise that these kinds of people infest the CONSERVative organizations. It's worldwide too. Drop the party names and labels for once, and look at the words, actions, minds, spirits, goals...basically, the PERSONALITIES of these people. They're basically running off the same exact same hardware. And if it's one thing people like this lack, it's compassion...also true empathy, not that self-labeling "empathyfullness" they sometimes like to paint themselves with. These people just don't got it, you can't "grow" a conscience, especially if you see it as weak, or virtue signalling, and I can guarantee you if you could scan all of their brains under an MRI, the little space that lights up for empathy is just door-nail dead in over 90% of them. So, now that we know just who and what these people are, all we can really do is just keep an eye on them, never underestimate them, and make strides to be sure they don't rise to a place of power so they can wreck their havoc on their targets ever again, and get to work on their hierarchical society that they crave. Because if given the opportunity, they sure as heck will. That is a 100% guarantee.
@@ARedMagicMarker "Because if given the opportunity, they sure as heck will. That is a 100% guarantee." That's my biggest problem with the Democratic party. They consistently underestimate conservatives. It's like they can't conceive of a group of people taking conservatism to it's ultimate conclusion even though cons are upfront about it and there are examples of their end goals throughout history. So Dems never put up the fight that they need to, therefore crazy conservatives gain more ground and have sway over our legal system and a sizable chunk of the senate although they represent a smaller portion of the U.S. as a whole. Dems are always bringing speeches to gun fights hoping to appeal to the better natures of conservatives, all the while completely unaware that they don't have better natures- it's all reptile brain and tribalism between their ears.
The irony of them worshiping "Jesus" - the guy who is meant to be love embodied. Honestly, it's like they haven't realized they are, in fact, Satanists (the non-ironic kind).
When you try to convince someone who disagrees with your very existence that you're "one of the good ones," you're already inadvertently accepting their bigoted rhetoric. To try to mold yourself to to please the sensibilities of those who hate you is to succumb to their hatred and let them have dominance over you. The right response to this is not "you're wrong about me," but rather "you're wrong."
Makes you wonder what level of religious extremism these people were raised to become like this. It's utterly terrifying. These are the kinds of people who would justify any- and everything based on their blind loyalty to their cruel, authoritarian god.
It gets scary when you encounter the ones who *aren't* religious, who grew their own hate based on their primordial sense of disgust and unease instead of having their hatred artificially planted there by indoctrination. @@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139
@@girlwhomustnotbenamed4139you don't have to be religious to have this kind of hatred in you. Religion exists because of the hatred in people not the other way around.
I find it interesting that she didn't actually. Lauren or whatever her name was called Blaire by the correct pronouns but told her all this other awful stuff. But it did burn into the core of my soul nonetheless :/
I don’t feel bad for her whatsoever. She chose to go into those circles and be treated like trash. I’m also pretty sure she’s just as bigoted and hateful as them when it comes to other things. It’s like feeling bad for someone who jumps into a lion’s den. Sure it’s not good that they got mauled but what were they expecting? Even worse when they jumped in the den to try and feed others to the lions.
thats bc Blaire literally looks more stereotypically feminine and like a women than some cis women so her brain would actually have to work harder to misgender Blaire and that is why its so stupid to be a bigot
This. I've been turning that idea over in my head a lot lately. The more I think about it though, conservatives really ARE monarchists, they just lack the unilateral legislative power to regulate society according to their vision. If they had the power, they'd do it. They have no interest in principles of freedom.
That's what conservatives basically are, are monarchists disappointed by republicanism. but since republicanism is the closest thing to "acceptable" politics they can get to, that's what they fake in public. There were a fuck ton of religious outcasts to America, from the quakers, Amish, Catholics, to the Mormons and Jews. So while america never really had a king, that was a failing they were willing to rectify.
@@checkyourlogic5041 Not really. More because the term was extremely intrinsic to Nazi ideology and propaganda, and the people that modern day conservatives label degenerates usually tend to be the same people Nazis labelled degenerates.
This is a good example of no matter how "normal" you try to be for the oppressing class they will never accept people they view as outsiders. Blair was never accepted she was tolerated. Candace isnt accepted she is tolerated. Milo wasnt accepted he was tolerated. The list goes on no matter how much they try to fit in they wont. When they need support the most their fan base wont be their. Their conservative friends wont be there. It's really sad and probably feels incredibly lonely and I wouldnt wish it on anybody.
I disagree that Candace is just tolerated. She and black people like her are highly desired by conservatives. Unlike the LGBTQ community, black people aren't considered sinners or abominations by most modern Christians and conservatives. Being anti LGBTQ is supposed to be for the protection of families and all that shit. People are proud of that stance. Being an admitted racist is less acceptable, and conservatives usually try to hide their racism. They claim not to hate black people for their existence, they're just highly critical of black people's ideas and behaviors. People like Candace not only validate that ideology by being one of the "good ones" that proves black people could succeed if only they tried, but also fend off accusations of racism which is the Achilles heal of conservatives.
Yes, I'd say that there presence is tolerated for as long as it's useful. Candace et al are tokens and useful fools. I'm sure the republicans feel a lot of glee watching these people degrade themselves and people like them, knowing that they're working towards their own oppression.
@@ajae... Tools tend to be highly desired until they complete the task at hand. Additionally, using a person as a tool is inherently dehumanizing. Also, nobody is an abomination; all people are children of God created in His image and are deserving of love and respect. Anybody who attempts to use the Faith to justify their personal hatred and bigotry are transgressors; the Gospels and Epistles are very clear about that.
@@delicheese6774 Please take your bible chapters and go elsewhere. You people are always ruining logical discussions by alluding to shit very few people read and even fewer understand or care about. I'm sure there's a Qanon post waiting for your opinion.
I wasn’t expecting such a good critique of trans medicalist ideas, genuinely thank you for this video it helped me address some of those underlying beliefs because as a trans person I want nothing more then to not be hated by society as a whole. And in this video you can just see Blaire trying to conform, completely missing the point of transphobia. Because the issue isn’t how trans people act, it’s just transphobia. And sometimes you have to accept that someone’s hatred is irrational and not something you can fix
Transphobes come to the conclusion in their reptilian brains that "trans people icky", then, they elaborate arguments to why they feel that and why this is logical actually, or in the case of this woman, religious arguments, the only way to overcome this, is to reflect on your beliefs, and I think anyone can do that, but realistically a lot of people will never come to a point when it's favorable to rethink their beliefs
I honestly don’t feel bad for Blaire during that discussion. She didn’t even bother defending herself and idk what she expected especially with the type of audience she caters to
it's cruel to deny people empathy when they self-harm and not to mention you're blaming the victim, whether of not she had the agency to enter those spaces
@@Sorcering I don't know if this is the take you want to stick with. Blaire did this to expand her brand. She knew what it would be like. Isn't it reducing her agency to say this was just self destruction?
@@Sorcering She is doing more harm than good to public discourse. Her and Steven Crowder so unless they decide to change their ways legitimately, I have no sympathy for them. Case closed
"Debate" that's a cool way to describe what happened there, I guess. But also imagine hearing someone state your identity is "a gateway drug to pedophilia" and then not reacting
The "moderator" was literally egging it on in between selling buckets of food. It was a car crash. I think Blair thought it would be a debate and she even got Doyle to agree with her. Nazi barbie instead saw it as a hour long "bully Blair" fest
Blaire White reminds me of this quote from the movie, The Butterfly: "Everyone lies about small or big things. The most important thing is not to lie to yourself."
At @0:30 if you get rid of the words “woke cancel culture” and change “Christian” to “Muslim”, it reads like something that we would probably call “terrorist recruitment propaganda”. It will always blow me away (pun intended) how cognitively dissonant some of these conservatives’ brains are.
@@jasonbolding3481 Hollyhock, a character in Bojack Horseman, has eight polyamorous dads, and they are portrayed as probably the single least dysfunctional family unit in the entire show. I feel that invoking this is relevant here.
“Children now can’t even go to get therapy if they choose to change their mind” (in reference to conversion therapy) - so … she’s anti children transitioning but pro children deciding if they want to be gay or not, which is a fallacy as it’s not a choice and indoctrinating kids into thinking it is doesn’t make it so. This vid was a hard watch.
transitioning aka medically transitioning. which has a TON of risks and negative side effects. kids don't even understand themselves, let alone the big topics of gender/expression/etc. they're bombared with an insane amount of information that they can only begin processing that young. it's not equivalent, since homosexuality is attraction while trans is self-identity, and you aren't encouraged to start taking hormones or something just because you're gay. i don't care what it is, a kid shouldn't be making any kind of extreme modification or taking non-medically necessary medications in order to 'fit into' their current personal identity. hormones are not something to play around with until you're very certain. certainty of that caliber takes TIME. it doesn't help that a decent portion of people regret transitioning (but it's very rarely discussed in trans positive communities....which is just horrible....) I remember being a teenager. i was a complete moron. i didn't even know if i actually liked to wear dresses or pants. it's dangerous to mess with hormones at ANY point of life, let alone during puberty. the risks of transitioning kids medically far outweigh the benefits. after 18, so be it. people tend to get a better grasp of themselves once they're out of school. i was still stupid at that age but at least i had been able to figure out i liked baggy pants over tight ones....gender identity is a whole nother ballpark
@@dantosinferne That's a lot of misinformation. The vast majority of trans people do not regret transitioning, transition regret is real but the idea that it is prevalent is a myth. The majority of reputable studies suggest that *at most* 5% (though usually closer to the range of 1%) of trans people regret transitioning, and that transition regret is *strongly correlated* with lack of acceptance, waiting too long, and using older or less effective medical techniques. For every one trans person that regrets transitioning despite being accepted by friends and family, there are a dozen that only regretted it because they didn't transition sooner or were scorned by their community. More strongly, for every dozen trans people that regrets transitioning, there are thousands that don't. The huge majority of trans people who transition wish they transitioned sooner. Trying to force trans questioning children into puberty overwhelmingly hurts them, not helps them. "Messing with hormones" is not dangerous at all, medically. Puberty blockers for example merely delay puberty and thus have virtually no long term effects once you stop taking them. Puberty blockers only delay the onset of potentially dysphoric developments, they literally only help, and what downsides they do have are virtually nonexistent. Critically, the *only difference* between HRT and puberty is that one happens without intervention and the other one doesn't. Medically, the difference is insubstantial, both are experiences which change your hormones, and both change your hormones to levels that half the population experiences. Implying that puberty is somehow safer than HRT is a naturalistic fallacy. You are correct that being trans is not like being gay. In fact, it tends to be much stronger and the consequences for being denied are much more severe. If you are a gay man and do not want to be with women, even if you are not accepted for being with other men, you can still choose to be single. For trans people, especially if they are denied hormone blockers, there is no middle ground. Either they transition, or are forced to live with painful dysphoria for the rest of their lives. Your beliefs are misinformed, and policy made on these premises will overwhelmingly hurt the people that they affect.
@@JadeVanadiumResearch i've seen studies higher than that, and different kinds showing different stats (like a decent percentage of trans kids end up changing their mind later, etc). it's not "forcing" anyone through puberty. that's nature's doing, not ours. and the changes we undergo during puberty have huge effects on the way our body develops and ages. effects we barely understand. i haven't seen enough evidence to suggest that it's totally safe. even talcum powder took decades before they found a cancer risk. but the main reason i brought up the danger is because i know it can mess with your fertility. do you think a 14yo kid can know whether they never want to have their own kids? it reeks of secret eugenics, honestly. my beliefs aren't misinformed. trans who transition are at a much higher risk of suicide than trans who don't transition. that's one of many signs out there that transitioning doesn't actually "stop" dysphoria as you imply. it might reduce it, especially in the short term i've found, but longterm the dsyphoria is still there. because dsyphoria is a form a mental illness. people experiencce it for all sorts of things, not just with their body. if you don't treat that underlying mental issue, no amount of physical alteration will improve it. there are a lot of medical issues that rise up too, that we don't understand very well, when it comes with messing with the hormones your body creates. many will not show up for many years. we don't even understand the stuff that's already there very well. adding in extra stuff adds a huge layer of complication that medical science is only beginning to understand. there's no 'naturalist' fallacy here. just recognizing our limits and understanding 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'. male bodies age differently than female bodies. they have different health issues. hormones effect them both differently. hormone treatments and surgeries are EXPENSIVE. and worst, the issue ISN'T the body. it's with the mind. DYSPHORIA = MENTAL. that doesn't mean it's 'less real', just that you can't fix mental issues through physically changing the dysphoric element (this has been shown many times), and hormones are complicated as fuck. and i have a feeling your 'reputable' sources probably aren't very sound. studies are difficult to understand, and they don't always even support their own 'tweetable' claim. news articles are horrible at explaining them, and many studies, including most psychological studies (like those dealing with trans issues) haven't been shown to be reproducable (or haven't even been tested for reproducability). the reality is that we don't understand the effects of hrt and transitioning very well. there hints that it could be beneficial, and hints that it could be harmful. which probably means we SHOULDN'T be using kids as guinea pigs when they can't even comprehend the full range of risks behind such a decision. also, FOLLOW THE MONEY. always. who benefits from kids transitioning? kids? maybe. Or perhaps, the medical practicioners and big pharma companies who provide these meds? hm
@@dantosinferne As a preface, so we can both be on the same page, I don't use twitter so I am unconcerned with how "tweetable" something is, and I have a PhD education so not only can I dig deep into studies, but in fact I read and write academic material 24/7, I enjoy it and it is also my job. You've expressed that you value the data and facts, and we should both know that it's impossible to derive empirical knowledge from pure logic, so instead of engaging with most of your rhetoric I'm going to give you some studies. 1. The idea that trans suicide rates increase after transition is *not inconsistent* with my position (and actually I find this observation obvious). I pointed out that suicide rates are strongly linked with social stigma, and it's a foregone conclusion that attempting transition incurs massive social stigma. The concept of social stigma presents a measurable hypothesis as a causal link between trans identity and suicide (which is also supported by data), meanwhile you have not presented any causal link. www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J082v51n03_04 www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/lgbt.2018.0239 www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277953615302185 2. Gender dysphoria is no longer classified as a mental illness by any reputable sources. Some insurance companies and government policies still classify it that way for the sake of health care, but it is in contradiction to the modern understanding. Just because gender dysphoria is psychological, abnormal, and uncomfortable, does not automatically classify it as a mental illness. The term "mental illness" carries with it not only a denotation, but also a connotation. To some extent, classifying something as a mental illness presupposes that the thing is somehow *morally* bad. Claiming that dysphoria is a mental illness is not simply a claim about the material world, it is also an ethical claim, and you have not (and likely can not) present a rigorous ontology which explains why dysphoria is bad in every case, but homosexuality is not. And again, no reputable source currently classifies gender dysphoria as a mental illness. Here is a link in which WebMd unambiguously says "[gender dysphoria] is not a mental illness". If you can find a reputable source from the last ten years saying gender dysphoria is a mental illness, I'll find you a dozen more saying it's not. www.webmd.com/sex/gender-dysphoria 3. The idea that a mental issue does not have external solutions is a misunderstanding of mental health, the idea that non-physical solutions are preferred is anchoring at best. Depression is a mental illness which is strongly linked with abuse (first link below). Medicine can help depression, but much more pertinently, preventing abusive environments and getting people outside of them helps depression. Many mental illnesses are remedied by changing someone's environment, and if something works, then it works. Reality does not care about your distinction between what is mental and what is physical, and consequently neither do the solutions. Transition is a clear and actionable treatment which works for most, and you have not presented any alternative. No known alternative exists. There is no known cure for gender dysphoria. Transition and subsequent social acceptance is the only thing that helps, and yes, physical alteration actually helps (second link). www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4677006/ www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1743609520309954 4. I hate to hammer this point home, but you clearly need it. Transition regret is in the tiny minority, and transition regret is strongly correlated with social factors. This first study claims 0.1-0.2% transition regret (with a sample size in the tens of thousands), with more than half of those citing social or medical reasons. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8105823/ This study has a sample size of 796, where only 8 of them regretted (0.5%). Along with identity desistence, one of the leading causes of regret are described as relating to non-binary gender variants or social regret www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2530018020301360 This study has a sample size of 7928, and gives 1%-2%. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/ Seriously, literally just google "scholarly articles transgender regret", there are dozens of these. I just picked a bunch from the top and read them through. The last one is even a metastudy, which are especially trustworthy. You claimed that we don't know what HRT medicines do, but this is actually totally false. For instance, the medicines that transgender women take are actually identical to the ones that older women sometimes take during menopause. These medicines weren't invented for trans people, they were co-opted. You say to "follow the money", but even if big pharma is benefitting, that is irrelevant. Gender dysphoria is not new. It has been around for ages. HRT helps. Who cares if big pharma is making money? Children are not "being used as guinea pigs". Rather than the children not understanding the risks, it really seems like it is you who does not understand the risks. Gender dysphoria does not vanish by not treating it, and conversion therapy *DOES NOT MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER*. It just teaches them to hide the symptoms. It's no different when it's used for homosexuality, why should it be any different now? You have said that it "reeks of eugenics", but this is inapplicable. Even if gender dysphoria is correlated with genetics (a substantial claim which requires substantial evidence), transition is overwhelmingly a personal choice which almost no one encourages while many people (like you) spend exorbitant energy trying to prevent it, whereas eugenics is forced and intentional destruction of genes. Moreover, the only thing eugenics would be accomplishing would be removing those genes, but if they are actually transgender, likely the best thing for them is to transition anyway, so eugenics would be redundant. This is a pretty dishonest rhetoric tactic, and if I may borrow your language, reeks of reducto ad hitlerum. You claimed you made no naturalistic fallacy, but in your opening sentence literally said "it's not forcing anyone through puberty. that's nature's doing, not ours". The consequences of puberty are identical regardless of whether it happens naturally or if we force it. As in the trolley problem, whether or not we pull the lever is irrelevant. We do not choose whether to "let nature take its course" or not. The instant we realize we have power over the outcome, it is our moral responsibility to choose the most beneficial action, and we cannot hide behind inaction as an excuse. Preventing people from accessing puberty blockers or hormone treatments that *they say they want* is tantamount to forcing them into puberty. The technology is there, and taking the opportunity away from them is a choice that is made using force to prevent them from using it. It doesn't matter what is natural. Honestly, your statement that "i have a feeling your 'reputable' sources probably aren't very sound" is extremely telling. You are engaging in motivated reasoning, and it seems to me that you are only afraid of what is different or abnormal. If you want to "help the children", you should try actually looking at the data. The data overwhelmingly says that social acceptance and transition are the two biggest factors in helping them, and that the huge majority do not regret, and of those who do, it is almost entirely due to being socially rejected. If you cannot accept this, you are hurting people.
"I just want a good, honest debate between my objectively correct opinion and the amoral, deviant filth you dare to poison us with." That RU-vid description demonstrates exactly what Conservatives mean by ""debate"".
Thats why every conservative society eventually collapses on itself. Nothing happens or changes and youre unable to deal with new situations. Honestly, its quite suprising natural selection didnt weed out conservative thought.
I can’t believe they let John Doyle in on this. That guy makes Stephen Crowder look like some great thinker of the modern age. Don’t let his loquaciousness fool you. His head is completely empty.
This "debate" was a perfect showing of just how easily conservatives go mask-off (and hood on) when they're not trying to at least present to non-conservative audiences. It's horrifying and nausea-inducing, but it's at least reassuring to know we were right about them all along.
What 2 big Face palms here Blair: let me grift conservatives, so that they’ll agree with me Conservatives: we agree with you, but also you shouldn’t exist Carlin: “ I joined the conservative party, because of how nice they are” The conservatives: we don’t believe X group of people should exist What!!!?!?!
What's with the word "exist"? You all love using it as if it makes your arguments have more weight. It's just embarrassing. Exist in your bedroom, and don't parade your fetish round in public
@@charlene2459 When Michael Knowles says that "transgenderism must be eradicated", that is saying that trans people should not exist. One doesn't have to advocate the death penalty for trans people to still want trans people to not exist. If you believe that transgenderism is a mental illness, or that conversion torture is necessary to help trans people, or that no one should be trans in public, etc... than you don't think trans people should exist. It's not some giant leap in logic to think that saying "X is morally repugnant, and we should do everything we can to stop it in human society, including ostracism" = "X shouldn't exist". Replace X with any other group of people, like Black people, Christians, Pisces, whatever, and the result would be the same. It IS wanting a group to not exist. Also being trans is not a fetish.
Yep. I understand the appeal of debate, but there's something absurd about engaging in debate while the biosphere is collapsing and only 6% of private sector workers are unionized. The problem isn't that there's too little discussion, the problem is that there's too little *concrete action.* (and yeah, i recognize the irony of me posting online about action lol).
@@wadehwallace Well effing said. And to add to your point of Irony... It's like that isn't it? Folks like you and me are simply not allowed to make concrete changes that better the world. Sure in small doses yeah. You could eat less meat. Grow more plants. Take better care of your health. Be nicer and more fair to others etc etc... But that's small potatoes. The big wig millionaire and billionaire types are the one's who need to make a move in order to truly make a noticeable change for the better. Annnnd they prolly wont so that means we're largely effed. Fun right? Oh well... Do what you can I suppose. Sorry for being a downer lol.
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 yeah, i definitely get where you're coming from. One point where i disagree a bit is about what we can do. There actually is a lot we can do, but it's not easy. The most essential, concrete action we can take right now is organizing labor unions and tenant unions. Get involved in radical anti-capitalist organizing. And even if you can't do any of that, building working class solidarity is something we can all do. Two key ideas that have helped me: 1) Action is the antidote to despair, action *is* hope. 2) Irrational optimism is better and more useful than despair/cynicism. Good luck out there!
Probably because she looks and talks feminine so that's what her mind defaults to. Were she was a trans woman a few months on hormone therapy she would probably have called her he or him
@@Kay-im6ht This. Her lizard brain defaulted to she/her based on appearance alone. If it were a more masculine looking trans person I have no doubt she would have misgendered them.
It kind of proves that they know on some level that gender is, in part, a social construct/performance. They naturally read Blair as a woman, even when they tell themselves that they don't believe she is one.
That whole video gets a big ol’ yikes from me. I’ve seen my share of uncomfortable and disturbing content in my nearly 20 years of using the internet, but that “debate” really made me feel viscerally icky and gross inside and out. How can anybody, even from the Republican Party lens, listen to 90% of the way conservative people were presenting themselves in that video and go “yeah, this is good. This is a good direction. I’m so proud of the state of my party and the people it is creating and empowering.” Like jesus fucking christ dude. There is a significant part of me, the humanitarian part, that continues to hold out hope that the conservatives who do not fall in line with the state of the party will one day have the courage to stand up and take a stance against this rhetoric. There is no shot the overall message that debate sent represents the majority of people in the party. Its like they always say, the craziest people will always have the loudest most vocal voice.
"It is my position that all trans people are bad and should go away." "It is my position that I am trans and I am not bad." "...Nope, that doesn't track." Seriously, why did Blair even agree to this debate? What headway did she think she'd make?
Yes my introduction to him was his more recent video where John Boil gets triggered over a yard sign. I thought it was insightful and clearly very smart. He was very thorough and well-researched in his hatred of colorful letters on a personal property rectangle
I don't feel sorry for her at all. She knew what the side she was cheerleading for and pandering to was all about. She can think about that when her fellow conservatives get what they want and put an actual noose around her neck.
Yeah seriously and she did nothing to defend herself from the majority of it. It made me feel bad for her. I truly realize now brainwashed she is. It’s sad
@@eclipsed_oracle6818 yeah she just wants to fit in. And this fascist bitch is hounding her for existing and shes just sitting there like 😐 Blair is a truscum grifter.
I know what you meant but when I saw "gateway to p**phil*a” my mind translated it to "gateway to Philadelphia" and my immediate response was, "No, that's Gritty, who would eat her." Then I went off into a daydream about Gritty being the fifth debater.
That opening prompt for the conservative “debate” was one of the most hilariously leading questions like, “Hey guys should we be sweet, good little conservative Christians or EVIL DEVIL MONSTERS”
@@MarcillaSmith well, you know what the bible says about woman speaking, namely that they shouldn't. I think jesus would have words for her being on that debate.
Blaire White used to be more of a centrist and I enjoyed some of her content. It's too bad she's essentially sold out for hate-filled content to stoke culture wars. Tiresome... but still, I imagine deep inside she's still a decent person. That's why she acted the way she did in this video imo
@@falsevacuum4667sold out to hate filled content? Talking to hateful people doesn't make you hateful. She's not friends with these people. Saying that trans people should wait until they're adults (who have fully thought everything through - without influence from parents/others) to transition and that trans womrn shouldn't take their fake tits out at the white house isn't hateful lol
Exactly. Being a fascist doesn't make you safe from fascism, and make no mistake, nobody's safe from fascism. As soon as their more immediate enemies are dealt with, if not sooner, they'll turn to the next target, again and again until they're either stopped or there's nobody left. Even if, through sheer luck, you somehow don't fall into a single group any of them hate today (and that's very unlikely considering how many different groups various fascists think are subhuman), there's no guarantee that will be the case tomorrow. You could become disabled at any point, if you're not today, and as you get older, it's pretty likely you WILL, assuming you don't die first. And even if you don't change, there's no guarantee the fascists won't decide that a group that includes you is no longer OK.
Blaire just wants to be the last trans to get axed in the fashy ethnostate the side she's fighting for will create. She doesn't care about anyone else, as long as she gets to stick around longer.
@@argenteus8314 Wait I'm confused: Are you saying conservatives like to use fascism to enforce their bigotry? Or Are you saying conservatives are fascist overall?
@@jesustyronechrist2330 if an individual conservative is not a fascist (which many are) they turn a blind eye to fascism. Refusing to acknowledge and be against fascism makes your nation to fascism
Lauren is a perfect example of how certain conservatives view the world. She agrees with Blaire on so many things, and Blaire is nothing but respectful to her. It’s just the fact that she’s trans, that Blaire is treated less than human. It’s not “culture,” or “morals,” it’s simply her identity that puts a target on Blaire’s back. Lauren is such a genuinely bad person that it’s incredible.
Lauren is right…Just like Christians are to be of the mindset “I may be the only Bible the people I meet will ever read”..meaning be a good living example of the Gospel message. Blaire is, whether admitted or not, a representative of trans. If she doesn’t want kids going trans then don’t be a trans RU-vidr.
She's brainwashed by Christianity. By the violent, fickle male god. With a bunch of ancient, aggressive men making everything up behind the scenes. Men who don't care about other men (who are different from them) and who were okay with pedophilia and never condemned it out of all the outrageously detailed sexual acts they condemned (including homosexuality). They don't condemn what gives them an upper hand (pedophilia, which was a prerogative RIGHT in the ancient middle east). I was brainwashed like her too.
@@hustinjunt8879 Nobody “wants kids to go trans.” Gender is instilled in the brain from an extremely young age, if not from birth, and it can’t be learned. The only things related to gender that CAN be learned are tolerance and curiosity, and both of those are good for children. I know you won’t believe this, but people (even children and teens) tend to know whether they are straight or cis. Not very many people detransition, and of those that do, plenty are forced to by factors OTHER THAN their gender identity. Lauren may be right-wing, but she isn’t actually “right” about very much. She’s an ignorant, bigoted pick-me girl.
Anybody else remember the grim adventures of Billy and Mandy? Especially with Billy and his giant spider son? How all the spider wants to do is earn Billy's love and respect, and all Billy wants to do is smash him, and even as Billy is attacking him with a baseball bat, the spider is apologizing for existing? I'm reminded of that.
I mean the way things are going more and more people support trans rights and eventually people like Witzke will be remembered as religious nutcases. Sad really, I don't think she deserves to be remembered at all.
I love how she worded that. That "children can't even get therapy if they choose to change their mind." Dear... if they've _chosen_ to change their mind... Why the _fuck_ would "conversion therapy" even be involved? That shit is to _force_ you to change your mind. I love how consistently dishonest these people are and _know_ they have to be to put forth their disgusting agenda.
That he straight up says that people doing whatever they want in private affects society and shouldn't be allowed.... against every Republican argument for "my freedoms" and "small government." They're literally saying the fascism out loud, fam!
@@bluexroses414 What I’ll say to that, having seen quite a bit of Doyle’s content and the way he’s rapidly radicalized over the years, we’re just a couple months to a year away from him just taking the label. He’s already dropped the pretence that people like him usually have of tepid libertarianism, he’s willing to call himself an authoritarian.
Christ Blaires grift is getting so bad it may actually end up killing her. Remember when she agreed to be in that one "rappers" music video where she dances around while he sang about trans people being fake women? She purposefully seeks out people to invalide her. It's self harm.
I wouldn't be surprised if she agrees to be in some sort of collaboration and it ends up being a ploy to kill her. Genuinely depressing, I don't like Blair, but I don't want her to experience the kind of bigotry that her OWN AUDIENCE puts her though.
@@puffinatheart5565 they're not even subtle about it, they don't even do the "I'm fine with trans people but" they straight up just say it to her face, you are everything wrong with this country. And she just fucking sits there and takes it
she is digging that hole, she can let it be her gr4ve, since shes just seeking attention/political clout. i swear everyone thats left or right and just say/believe horrible garbage takes for the sake of attention or clout is why i think the entirety of modern day politics is a joke... "why be an actual politician when you can become an attention chasing goblin" nearly every "famous politician" on youtube. (i mean the ones who get themselves in hot water for the sake of it.) clout chasers on both sides just make it hard to give a rat shite about any of this. bs.
I can't believe this guy really sat there and said that he fundamentally believes in societal hierarchy. As in, some people inherently deserve mistreatment. He just sat there and said that as if it was a logical and totally okay thing to believe.
@herodotus53 The sad part is that they're right about that. An actual hierarchy like they're pretending to want would need a socially equal utopia as a starting point. That way, everyone can have the same education, nutrition, opportunities, ect and can be fairly judged who is "better". But instead, they're proposing a hierarchy that just codifies the power they have now as deserved by virtue of them having that power now.
Lauren is a former drug addict who absolutely doesn't support the idea of giving addicts a second chance the type that only punches down and never up a borderline if not flat out fascist doesn't deserve any type of power regardless of how simple
Where do you get that she disbelieves in no more chances for recovering addicts? I just saw an interview with Blonde in the Belly of the Beast where she said the opposite.
"Best thing you can do for us is grow out your mustache" Holy shit, dude. That's awful. That's just an awful thing to say. Blaire, are these really the people you wanna talk to? Like, wouldn't you rather be anywhere else talking to anyone else?
Why should she have said no? I find it bizarre that anyone is like "no don't go to this DEBATE because the people there disagree with and don't like you"
@@Velereonics Why should she say yes? There's zero civility, non-existant moderation, neither parties gain enlightenment on the issue at the end... Typically when you're invited to a debate you don't expect to be in a room or call with people who clearly don't care to debate you and just want to say the most hateful things they can for as long as they can. You can insist that's debate if you want, but I'd personally rather tweez my pubes than attend, the end result would mostly be the same.
@@Velereonics there is a difference between “disagreeing“ and open verbal hatred and attacks. How Lauren spoke about and to Blair White was abusive, not civil disagreement.
I feel like she's might have some left leaning views but still tends to keep them away or don't even bring it up, only because most of her fanbase/audacity are reactionary conservatives/right wingers! she might get alot of hates from it.
New England's left-leaning appearance masks the sizable rural population which is less diverse, more conservative, and less tolerant of LGBT people. Also, during the Trump era, right wing politicians are rewarded within their own circles for espousing extreme positions. 38% is consistent with Trump's polling on a national level, and it seems likely that someone like Witzke could get at least 30% anywhere in the country. Love your stuff, JJ
No matter how hard I think about it I can’t see how changing your gender to another gender would have any kind of connection to being attracted to a child…?
In the eyes of the reactionary right, they view any and all members of the LGBTQ+ community as being "deviant", and by accepting _one_ form of deviant behavior, it opens the door for society to accept even more extreme deviations from the norm. They paint it as a slippery slope to pedophilia acceptance that quite simply doesn't exist.
these people believe there is an invisible man in the sky who watches all of them every day to make sure they follow ten rules and if they dont hell send them to a fiery, torterous eternal suffering, but nonetheless still loves them. Youre arguing with people who are delusional, of course its not going to go anywhere.
OK. I will try to describe the reasoning, without endorsing it. In their view, it's not that THE SAME PEOPLE who are transgender will obviously also be attracted to minors. Their concept is that the same kinds of reasoning which supports LGBTQIA+ activism, can also be applied to MAP (minor attracted persons, look it up if you are not familiar with them). The concept currently being promoted by self-identified "minor attracted persons" in attempting to be accepted under the LGBTQIA+ umbrella is that they too have no control over their attractions, any more than a gay person could decide to be straight or a trans person could decide to be cis, so society should likewise support rather than stigmatize them. This is a real movement seeking inclusion today, not a figment of conservatives. However, no mainstream LGBTQIA+ organization is accepting MAP as part of their cause today, and most members would strongly oppose that. But given the continual expansion of what's under the LGBTQQIAA+ umbrella, conservatives fear that the same logic will eventually lead to "accepting" MAP as a legitimate oppressed sexual minority. The gender transitioning of minors based on treating them as capable of understanding the lifelong implications of a decision, raises for conservatives the question of whether there will eventually be a move to also allow youths to "consent" to sex with a MAP. While we cannot control what the LTBTQIA+ movement will do in the future, we can hope that the concept that young people cannot meaningfully consent to some things will forever remain valid for the movement. I personally am clear about that. But the conservative fear is not entirely baseless, or invented out of thin air. I can understand how they could see a progression which would lead to that in the future, even if most of us today do not subscribe to that. Again, I'm trying to explain the concern I've seen, without agreeing that it's inevitable or desirable. We should understand the concern fairly, rather than invent a strawman.
@@zephsmith3499 I get that you're not endorsing these beliefs, and I understand exactly what you're saying, but also... their reasoning is still terrible. And that's because humans are actually fully capable of doing one thing and not another. Children can have the bodily autonomy to express themselves as transgender, and no, that does not mean society needs to give them the legal authority to consent to csa. Likewise, we as a society can fully accept all LGBTQ+ people, a group whose interests do not cause harm, without accepting MAPs, a group that does cause harm. I don't know what it is with far-right conservatives (and a lot of other people as well, tbh) and this persistent, baffling inability to think outside of these one-size-must-fit-all authoritarian dichotomies.
@@SeekerLancer “If you don’t listen to what we say you could end up smoking weed, having sex that is actually enjoyable and not just for procreation, and talking to a lot of interesting people from different racial, social and cultural backgrounds. How awful!” 🤣😂
Blaire White is the person who helped me grow out of conservatism. Transgender people used to be something that disgusted me. I was unsure about her at first, but her being “conservative” opened me up to trans ideas and that eventually lead me to consider more things. What else was I wrong about? I’ve now years later come full circle and realize how shit she is politically, but she did do something important for me as a young conservative.
Now is when there's a plot twist and is revealed that Blaire was playing 4D chess, making weak and nonsensical arguments in purpose, focusing more in optics and such to drive trans folks on the right further left lmao
For me, it was Bill mahr and becoming an atheist. He shat on everything I was at the time, but he did it in such an eloquent and bombastic way, and with such great evidence that, along with other skeptic's, made me really consider "what if the people I love and support... Are wrong?" Now, as an atheistic anarchist, he just looks like the entitled, confused and hateful liberal that he is.
@@ethanstump Part of me wonders if he was genuinely that awful the whole time, or if it was just when trump was elected that he became batshit crazy. I was a liberal in 2016, and I remember his Democratic partisanship drove me completely off his schtick at that point. Now, he says such ridiculous nonsense that watching him speak is genuinely infuriating.
@@sealogic4552 i think it's a mix of both TBH. as I went from a kid to young adult, i started questioning the thing's i had been given from my parent's and community, and i realized there were a number of thing's that didn't add up. for bill, he went from liberalism being the "alt" thing, to liberalism being the assumed default. further, he went from having a number of genuinely radical for the time position's (atheism, weed legalization, and others), to looking like a centrist boomer at best, to a typical boomer at worst. I think it's more that the younger generation's are moving wayyyy left, then mahr moving right, but i still do think he genuinely has moved right over the decades. then again, he always was a rich prick, he's just no longer "our" rich prick. as many people have pointed out from different positions, reformist's don't hate that someone is dominating, they despise that THEY aren't the ones dominating. now that bill mahr has all the trapping's of power after being an outsider for so long, he has turned into the hypocritical, myopic, deceitful and uncritical people he has lampooned for decades. kind of like colbert also. stewart seem's like he hasn't shifted at all, but understand's that there are younger, more radical people taking the lead, and is willing at least to hear them out and still learn something. john oliver seem's like his genuine heir, rather than trevor noah, but even Oliver is less radical than many zillenial's and zoomers are shaping up to be.
I’m really glad that she helped to deradicalize you, and I am so glad that you were able to carry yourself on beyond the point she could take you. Welcome to enlightenment and compassion! ❤
I kind of appreciate the "mask off" hatred of trans people on display. It shows that there is no point in trying to concede anything to bigots, because their goal is to completely remove trans people from public life even if that means people dying. You don't make peace with that kind of hate. You stand in defiance of it and you survive it.
@Dynah Dixon I was latino conservative sort of and I stopped being conservative after the some channels I followed went full mask off about their white supremacy and after I saw how anti diversity type stuff was just code for racism/sexism.
@@coletrain546 And they will tell you diversity and multi"cult"urism is "codeword" for anti-white. Or they will mock you with "diversity is our strength." It seems they are utterly incapable of seeing that all things can exist in a space together. No one's gonna get "cooties" if you live and work in the same space as someone else. I'm not anti white, anti black, anti Latino...anti-Asian...Anti- (insert race here) anyone, really. That's stupid. I mean, I can be a lil' nihilistic, but that's a completely different topic, mostly stemming from how humanity treats itself. XD It's more along the lines of people thinking their rights will evaporate if say women or LGBT have basic human rights. It's some weird tug of war thing. They literally live in a black and white world. When I hear the term "anti-racist = anti-white", I feel the people who say that are just tragically saying more than they mean to, and it doesn't help them in any way. To me, it's as if they are literally saying that the natural default for white is racist-mode, and to be against racism is to be against white (them)...which is racist...which true racists will either deny or proudly embrace given the circumstances. And not only that, they are completely convinced everyone else is just like them (racist), but to be against racism is to be against them (white)...specifically. Excuse me, but that "logic" never fails to melt my brain. And it's really baffling that if you are pro-everyone, and just want to live in peace, you are this "anti white" and wish to kill all white people in some any-day-now "race war". So naturally, with this mindset, they will go on full balls to the walls warrior mode and will get you (anyone who's against them) before you get them. Like, wut? Where in the actual eff did that come from? XD It tells me more that people like that don't see themselves as part of the human collective. They see themselves in some elite class above the rest of humanity, hence the "supremacy." And it's not just white people, I've seen that same stupidity from just about every human group under the sun, and they all have their own equally stupid justifications. Too much of the Stupid KoolAid will do that.
She was hiding her full power level in that debate. She's against interracial marriage because she wants to maintain a white majority in the USA, and she claims the USA needs to stop immigration to keep the American bloodline pure, she's a literal NAZI.
Blare white is a depressing person. She's begging, pleading, dancing to the literal facsist that she's "one of the good ones" only to be put last in line to the train.
@@frealish6622 i don't know man. Believing in hierarchy, that people are different from you inferior, calling brown people and Mexicans rapists, hating reality and experts, voting for an authoritarian, having a cult following of said authoritarian..... Seams pretty fascist to me.
@@frealish6622 no, just the ones who want to dictate how I should live together with all the sellouts who have to spout the narrative to justify their own farcical existence
It always catches me of guard when I'm confronted with the mindless, inhuman hate and cruelty of morally bankrupt social conservatives like Lauren Witsky. Their behaviour is so reprehensible that it initially leaves me in a state of shock. I struggle to comprehend how it's even possible for a person to be so perfectly awful. I know that everyone has the potential to grow, learn and improve, and so usually, I'm able to have compassion for people who are behaving badly. I think, "you clearly have some issues, and I hope you manage to work that stuff out in the long run". But people like Lauren Witsky are on another level for me. Their hatred feels so stable and impenetrable. They seem utterly and fully committed to being vile, disgusting human beings. I find it extremely hard to believe in the possibility that anything good could ever come from someone like Lauren Witsky. Blaire White clearly has a stronger heart than I do, and I deeply respect her for that.
blaire doesn't have a strong heart. just heaps of internalized transphobia and the understanding that being the token anti-trans trans girl for the right wing is very profitable.
I think about that too, and honestly the best thing we can do is try to prevent kids from growing up to be adults that hate like Lauren, and limit people like Laurens power over everyone elses freedoms. Its really sad because to grow up like that you have to come from a really harsh environment with lots of hateful people, and plenty of self hate too, to bury your own empathy that far down.
You might be mentally ill then, mentally ill people often report to feel the same things when someone correctly identifies their mental illness. There was a time when gender dysphoria was indeed considered a mental illness. Not all that long ago in fact.
@@KD-ou2npkeep kids away from trans and alphabet ideology, they figure out what they want to make of themselves and act on it when they are of legal age, if it even is the case in such a scanario.
Blaire reminds me so much of myself when I first started transitioning. I was in highschool at the time and actually believed if I tried to make myself “one of the good ones.” Like tolerating things like people purposely misgendering me, being made the butt of jokes, sometimes even putting down other people in the lgbt community, it would make things easier for me in the long run of life. Not only did that make me miserable, but it didn’t even work. Thankfully, I got to grow out of that toxic mindset with maturity and didn’t have to stick to those beliefs due to my entire career being tied to it.
“Uh we also have a transgender on here, y’know I really don’t think we should be giving a platform to this kind of degeneracy” IT SOUNDS LIKE A PARODY OF ITSELF I CANT HELP BUT LAUGH
It's not that hard because she's not particularly right wing. The only conservative values she holds are freedom to happiness, small government, and the free market. Other than that, she's pretty liberal, all things considering.
@@lilahdog568 lmao the national SOCIALIST party (inherently left wing) imagine having selective history narratives you use to paint anyone who is to the right of Karl Marx as a Nazi
"Bonkers" really is the best way to describe watching that debate. Where a man literally calls for inequality and hiearachy as his platform and HE'S the one that's called reasonable. It was crazy to read the comments of that video where everyone was saying he was based.
While I do think Doyle is a garbage person, I appreciate his honesty and wish more conservatives were that open about being anti-equality. It would make advocating against them so much easier
@@zikoran7273 I see your point but in my opinion, fascists should always be afraid to be blatant like that. John Doyle feeling comfortable speaking so freely just shows how much we've conceded to fascism lately. Imo
Listening to Lauren Witzke speak as a person from Delaware makes my skin crawl. Seeing her big campaign signs that literally said “protect the family!” on the side of the road really just solidified to me how much the modern republican is no longer trying to hide the fascism
I'd say it's not helping her cause very much and she's not far from looking like a fossil from another age with these ideas ; she'll be the racist homophobic aunt that people roll their eyes at in no time. Let them embarrass themselves, I say.
@@alicedeligny9240 Oh my sweet summer child, it is quite impossible for these "people" to feel embarrassed about themselves. They only continue to draw bigger and bigger followings. It's getting better for them, not worse.
@@troubledwaters7441 Embarrass themselves in general society. They don't need to be aware of it. And honestly, if there are people who flock to her ideas...her ideas are becoming things of the past. Now if conservatives want to go on, they have to be nice regarding things they openly vilified 20 years ago. People are moving on and becoming more accepting, and if not, the holders of these beliefs are dying out.
Conservatives aren’t fascists and we shouldn’t call them conservatives. They are fascists and they are the fascist traitor wing of the republicans party. There are lots of “conservatives” who don’t like Trump actually and don’t like fascism. They voted for Biden
I've seen a lot of commentary wincing at the terrible things Blaire allowed to be said about herself without comment. And people have asked how she can align herself with people who clearly want to hurt her. The answer is simple: She's a conservative. There are many dimensions of conservatism, many different forms that conservatism can take. Blaire White is exactly like the other two in kind, but not in *degree.* And she knows that. She's there *because* she is like them. She doesn't hate herself; she hates all non-conservative trans people who refuse to "police" other trans people. She hates trans people who haven't put forth the effort (aka: money) to be trans like she did. She hates trans children because being trans is supposed to take a lot of work to figure out, and if a child can figure it out, then that means it isn't that hard. The only difference between herself and Lauren Witsky is that Lauren removes all of the qualifiers. She doesn't hate "trans people who ..."; she just hates "trans people". Blaire White's political ideology offers her a choice. She can join the side that shares her broad ideology but hates her with a burning passion. Or she can join the side that recognizes her right to be trans but refuses to police other trans people and limit them the way she feels they ought to be limited.
Transgender drugs and surgeries SHOULD be limited! As should transgender women in cisgender women's spaces and sports competitions! I'm glad Blaire White is sane enough to realize that! Too bad she is the only transgender person to do so it seems.
Blaire White does not "hate" anyone who you are saying she hates. She openly states in her videos that she went through a transition and has been in their shoes before. What she does do is protest against people who make transgender-ism a trend, and those who do not treat it as what it is (a mental disorder). I mean that with no disrespect. That is simply what it is. Contrary to what Joel said, she does not focus on trans people in her videos. She exposes pedophiles. Some of which are trans, but those who are are using that as an excuse for their pedophilia. Also, the biggest topic she discusses is how it is wrong for transitions to be forced onto kids. She says openly that even though there are exceptions to children transitioning (meaning sometimes it works out and everyone is happy), there are still handfuls of children who transition young and it ruins their lives because it was an uninformed decision. Therefore, children transitioning shouldn't be allowed due to the risks. She is not an extremist, nor is she bigoted. All of her views are level, and are for the safety of everyone. Respectfully, do your research before making bold assumptions.
I read that in high school. Many of the main characters are such shitty people that it made it a bit rough to read at the time, though I would likely enjoy it now... But that made the final chapter super cathartic.
"No such thing as a private individual in the privacy of their own home" Me: *Looks around at my desk while I'm working* "Helllooooooooooo?" *no response*
I don’t want to throw around the term fascism,, But this is actually a fascist worldview. This extreme level of authoritarian social control, saying you have a duty to serve the state with your actions at all times…
Wow that whole “republicans were super optimistic, and the dems are gloom & doom” is quite the statement. Its almost as if one ignores all the problems and the other wants to actually address them. Political theatre vs actual politics
You know she's lying about being a former Bernie supporter when compared to the other Democratic candidates, his rallies were ALWAYS high energy. His base is composed of passionate people that are tired of the bad poltical establishment. The "doom and gloom" statement is also loaded with how that was literally Trumps who rhetoric: The "other" is out to get you whether its non whites, immigrants, gays etc as opposed to Bernie who always had a diverse following which also included loads non crazy white people
@@Spongebrain97 I don't actually doubt that she might have been a Bernie supporter. She sounds like someone who gets swept up by whatever motivated group she's surrounded by at the time and doesn't have an ounce of critical thought in her own head. She literally decided to support Trump because she had more fun with Trump supporters. The rhetoric and politics mean nothing to her, just how the group makes her feel. The solutions to problems that progressive liberals like Sanders bring to light are challenging. There's a lot of human suffering in the world and no easy way to fix it. Trumpism on the other hand offers you easy scapegoats and a magic man who claims to be the messiah who will fix everything with the wave of a magic wand. It's not shocking that once she was confronted with very real issues after the initial excitement she got from the promise of liberal reform that she'd switch to the party who thinks they can fix everything by chanting loudly to a demagogue. She doesn't care what they actually stand for. She's definitely not alone in this either. I've met so many Trump supporters in real life who are politically illiterate. When you ask them how they feel on certain issues and why they can at best repeat soundbite responses and at worst don't really know why or because it upsets people they don't like.
@@SeekerLancer true that. Carlyn was also annoying to listen to because in her mind Trump is the way to go despite the fact that he gave a voice to crazy people like Lauren who cruelly mocked Carlyn to her face and insulted her husband who is an immigrant, saying he should be deported despite becoming a citizen after marrying her. Does she not notice that correlation between Trumps rhetoric and people like Lauren??
Conservatives: Anything moving away from rugged individualism is Socialism! Also Conservatives: People being gay in their own bedroom affects us all as a society!
@Stay Away yes they are. I'm pointing out that conservatives don't like the in public, at home, sin all you want lol I'm not defending them, just explaining their ACTUAL bigotry.
@Stay Away He literally didn't watch the fucking video where the guy OPENLY ADMITTED IT, in basically those exact words. Straight up trying to gaslight us.
@@mindlander Bro… watch the whole video. The guy literally says somewhere around the 20 minute mark of /this/ video that he thinks it’s unacceptable to be gay in private.
i said it on TRO's video and I will say it here, Blaire is a perfect case study of the trans people that lay on places like /lgbt/, self loathing, sad, depressed people who take their anger on others as a way to either stand as "one of the good ones" or as a way to self harm. She wants to be seen as one of the "cool trans", not the "weird loonies", she desperately wants to appeal to a target audience that, on their core, hates her. It's just sad.
I agree. But I don’t think her transness is what motivates her to be conservative - if she was born as a cis woman I would predict she would be nearly as transphobic as Lauren. I think Blair is as conservative as she possibly can be without completely erasing herself. It’s not just to be as palatable and pandering as possible to bigots, but she literally pushes transphobia as far as it can possibly be pushed without being closeted - like she can say transphobic things to trans kids because she’s not a trans kid, and she can say transphobic things about non-binary people because she’s not non-binary, but she can’t be fully against the legal right to transition as an adult because she would have to cease her existence as a passing woman. For any conservative idiots reading this: At least y’all can see that being trans is not a choice. It’s so not a choice that a conservative like Blair can’t even choose to be cisgender, despite that it would make her life far easier to ‘just not be trans’ in the conservative space. She literally has to allow people from her own political party to say dehumanizing, violent things to get by.
