Preach Reacts to 'WoW Players Experience FFXIV' By Captain Grim 

We're so glad to have you guys here; the content has been phenomenal 😂😂

My dude you're a legend. Thank you for the amazing content on WoW and now on FFXIV. You're spot on with every scene!

As someone that's played both games for years but now only FFXIV you absolutely nailed it and this was freaking genius LOL

Sup Captain?

your videos are spot on dude

It's canon now that ascians are blizzard devs.

@@PegeCovers They want the entire MMO community to rejoin them back when they were the only viable option, ie "The Great Rejoining"

@@PegeCovers Ascians are bunch of saints compared to Blizzard XD

@@DamorahTalset well yeah that, + sexual assault.

It’s an insult to Ascians though.

I was expecting "Who brings shadow" to start playing right there

I was in the 5.3 shadowbringers dungeon for the first time for story progression. We were doing great, maybe wiping at new mechanics. But the veteran players were very patient and even made jokes and gave us pointers. After I finished the dungeon I was just in aww at how much the game has progressed. The S TIER quality of shadowbringers dungeons, and how the other 2 experienced players were way more than happy to help us learn. A very very pleasant experience in an amazing dungeon with an incredible final boss

@@majormom357 veteran players are always nice in new games because they want more people to play the game but like with every game the more people the more toxicity and it will eventually have the same type of asshole players as any other MMO. I've heard people in New World are really nice too, same thing.

literally had this happen to me (on the receiving end) a few weeks ago, just doing my duty roulettes on SCH with a light party of sprouts in haukke manor, somehow the tank to die to the boss (absolutely not my fault, he just stood there and dc'ed), the tank never logged back in so the other 2 party members got depressed in party chat and said that we'd have to remake party, and i just told them not to worry about it and wait a bit. no more than 3 minutes later a new tank joined (also a sprout) and we wiped which disheartened them yet again, so i taught them how to deal with the lamps with lady amandine, after that it was an easy clear. i got full commends for some reason even though i was just being nice, its kind of the norm for everyone to have a huge tolerance for eachother, especially for sprouts.

55 min of Ramuh extreme. Only 2 people to ever get riled/mad were 2 mentors. Everyone else were chill af. I was having a blast tbh and that feeling of hitting that LB after 55 min of doing it and ending the fight was pure bliss.

didn't know the don't skip elezen was a meme

@@MonosEx not the Elezen per se but the reaction of the community to story skippers.

@@alexiosblake9804 ...Story skippers? STORY SKIPPERS?! AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH

Yeah, I love how it puts both games and their communities under the lens.

Its a great reminder. In a lot of respects the FF community is better and more healthy than Wow’s, but it isn’t perfect. We shouldn’t ignore the bad sides of the FF community, they should be memed because their opinions tend to be pretty stupid. Similar idea to the “UCOB/UWU was harder when I did it in Stormblood so you didn’t earn your clear, but gratz anyway” meme or the “Beating Ultimates is an insult to me because of social anxiety and lack of social networking” copypasta. They are pretty toxic ways to think, but people in the community make fun of it because its a rediculous stance to take to truly believe those statements.

that scene hit different for those who follow Grim's videos and realized that was the reoccuring often-shit-upon undead priest from multiple past videos where he was the butt of many toxic dungeon/raid group jokes. . Glad to see he found his piece.

@@TheFashionistaFFXIV omg its the real fashionista outside of her own domain! Hello

@@dafire9634 heyyoo

@@dafire9634 Well, during the Middle Ages, Kings and Queens traveled the land to see their subjects - here we are today :D

Thats the spirit of final fantasy 14 in a nutshell

The best part is that the undead face which appears when he (ironically) says "wow", indicates he is a repeating character from many of captain grims previous videos. an undead priest who keeps getting shit on in dungeons or raid attempts and hasnt been seen since his last appearance a while back where the character decided to just quit the game altogether. Looks like he finally found his peace.

Copium Elf is great.

ikr relatable and hits right in the feels, my friend is so the copium elf lol.

Same shit happened to me today! Lol. My party were getting wipe after wipe and half the group fell like giving up since we had 13min left and a long term player said "It's all good guys 13min is all we need to beat this boss, we got this" and we killed it with 37 seconds left. It was the most hype and exciting feeling I ever had lol.

Recently had a similar experience with both Diamond Weapon and the last Ivalice raid. Friendly mentors are the best.

Not wiping, but recently I was in a group from party finder farming a bird mount (from sephiroth) and we stayed together farming until the last party member got his mount. We did it almost 50 times for almost 2 hours. I thought it was very wholesome that a bunch of strangers would invest that much time just to make sure other strangers got their mount =)

You had an awesome party. We wiped 6 times on story Leviathan KEK

​@@Edellus I love those groups, always nice when ppl are willing to stick it out

That or it's the raw recording from Captain Grim's stream himself saying it...

So that's what was happening huh? Nice catch there. Watch the video several times and never understood the reference. Captain Grim really needs someone to explain the tidbits of his videos like Carbot has on his videos.

@@Lasershadow Well not really, if you follow grim and you just see his videos youll see a LOT of recurring characters. Like the undead guy/toxic dude was also in the WoW Classic experience video.

It’s not leaving the body. It was just supposed to indicate that player is the forsaken from his previous videos.

@@vojtechsrb1423 Yep!

Not sure if retail WoW is different, but I haven't noticed much if any difference between classic WoW players and FFXIV players in terms of friendliness.

Indeed. We need to see Inspector Inspector.

Unpopular opinion but I'mma say it: I don't like the hildy questline. The only 2 times I skipped cutscenes was during hildy and in 2.something when we needed the correct contraceptive crystal to fight Garuda. *Braces for impact*

Black Mage LB3 incoming

@@maxmagnus377 Yeah, feels like I'm the only one. I mean I'm ok with slapstick humor, it just doesn't work for me in this game. It...makes me cringe? Idk. No insults here lol please don't come for me, just my 2 cents.

@@maxmagnus377 Well you can always abandon quest and pretend it didn't happen. I mean, only MSQ and job quests show up in the top left corner as important quests, so nothing lost here.

and FIVE new hair colors! FIVE!!!

They are even doing stuff they did not promise, like removing jokes and flirts! Blizz truly cares! Everyone is just a toxic asshole jumping on this new ffxiv trend to ge some clicks!! MOM I NEED MORE COPIUM!!

@@RiseInAfterlife lol dat truth here!

Or you know, many of the people who quit WoW actually quit and don't want to give Blizzard their money anymore at all. Some people undeniably will play both games or go back to WoW, but tbh, I think many WoW players have realized that FFXIV is an MMORPG that is trying to be fun, but WoW is just a dumb skinnerbox with only a tiny sliver of its content(raiding) being vaguely entertaining.

At this rate, I think they'd rather leave the game in maintenance mode to milk as much of whatever's left than try and save it. Unless BIG overhauls are done in the game and company, WoW probably only has ~2 expansions left, at most.

@@Hooga89 its a second job. You HAVE TO do so much every day and every week, to actually get to play the slightly entertainment raiding. Its just hell to play. Nothing relaxing. A game should be something that relaxes you after a day of work, not make you feel you have another job.

The WoW token means it will never bounce back fully. Outside of that, they could bounce back in ONE content patch if their leads developers were competent.

they're definitely good at masterstroking

Also the fact every job is largely balanced,really nips the meta arguments in the bud,and thats what makes a big difference

Not only that, but FFXIV builds a very good balance of letting old content be rewarding; not just with the drops themselves, but also with helping support new content. Example: I've just finished 5.0, and I was just looking up the Resistance questline (the ShB relics quests), and to go get that relic, you can go grind the new, super expansive zone...or you can actually just go back and do previous content in various ways such as old FATEs or old raids. Granted, not doing it in the new zone isn't efficient, but you have the option if you still enjoy older content, and it helps keep older content populated.

This got a bit long, but FF14's built-in permanent timewalking is as close to the gold standard of making MMO content evergreen as I know of. The stat/equipment scaling for level sync is usually flawless and the only real complaint is that it can allow for things to be easier, but that's what queueing at minimum iLevel is for if you thirst for the challenge. There is very little content in FF14 that you can't find ANYONE to do it with you in a reasonable period of time, and almost everything that would fall under that category is exceptionally obsoleted by later design decisions. Very _very_ little content is permanently removed after being added, with the notable exceptions being seasonal/crossover event content and the time-limited Unreal trials that are just for the endgame raiding scene. I can get rewards for queueing up to do any of the 77 dungeons in the game (and that doesn't count other instanced content like trials or raids), which is great for anyone sitting in queue as a DPS needing to get through a dungeon for their storyline progression. In addition to any bonuses for queueing, when any player in the party is in a dungeon/trial/etc. instance for the first time there's a notification that everyone gets a bonus as an encouragement to get the first-timer their clear. This encouragement to do old content for rewards or to level alternate jobs on the same character means you have lots of experienced players being deliberately mixed with new players during their progression climb. Most players are happy to explain mechanics to sprouts (new players) because the experienced players don't get their old-content bonus until the instance is complete. It's much more efficient and effective to just teach the first-timers how to do the important mechanics and clear the instance than to make a big fuss over wipes and votekick the first-timer or themselves ragequit the run and get nothing. Abusing votekicks to unfairly remove people for being new will also get the GMs on your case and unlike WoW they _will_ intervene promptly if they see a reason to. The same goes for toxic behaviour both in the instance and afterwards. There is a very real incentive to not say anything at all if you can't say anything nice or at least in good faith. This doesn't mean you can't criticize people but you have to be respectful about it. Everyone's playing a game here. FF14 also tells stories of working together to surmount challenges, of learning and growing, of _forgiveness_ for mistakes and flaws. It's even written right into the lyrics of one of the most important songs of the game: _"Look to those who walked before to lead those who walk after"_ Players are encouraged to help each other in both the design and the story. I'd also be remiss if I talked about FF14's attempts to systemically discourage toxic behaviour without bringing up SquareEnix's attitude towards third-party addons like parsers and loggers. They're aware that they exist, officially they prohibit them and ask players not to use them, but ultimately they know players will use them and they _for now_ are not going to attempt to detect and punish addon users just for using addons. Where they _will_ stomp down immediately on someone is if they're _harassing_ people for having a shitty DPS parse or something, because that's using an addon AND disturbing the experience of another player. In other words, go ahead and run parsers all you want but keep it to yourself in matchmade groups. This cuts down on the toxicity across the whole community because if you even mention someone else's parse in a random group they can have you talking to a GM soon after you leave the instance.

@@dafire9634 ffxiv is proof that effective balancing can be done. blizzard just doesn't want to do it. in ffxiv, your dps is determined by your skill and your gear level. in wow, your dps is determined by whichever class is broken, what talents are massively better than others, item level, stats, RNG, and some skill. this breeds a toxic environment where classes and specs are constantly changing positions on the scale of "the meta" as blizzard "tries" to balance them. if you play something that isn't popular at the time, due to it being considerably weaker than the other classes, you will get declined from group finder applications. people will not want to play with you. so it's either play what you enjoy the most, or obey the meta. in ff, it doesnt matter what you play, if you like it and you're good at it, you'll be fine. i read somewhere that they're all within 10% of eachother. samurai is "the strongest" dps, but it doesn't matter because it isn't by much. i've beat them on the dps meter with my machinist

@@elixwhitetail This! I just started playing FF14 this past weekend, and did my first dungeons last night. I was surprised to see players gaining levels in the 50s and 60s as we progressed through--and when I fucked up they were so kind about it.

Something about it was so brilliant.

Yeah, it was brilliant but comparing Blizzard execs to Ascians is offensive to the latter. At least the Ascians had some kind of moral compass. There was a reason behind their motives. Blizzard execs cubicle-crawl, invite women to a room called "The Cosby Suite" and SA just because they can.

Echo raid parsing ;)

That's horrible advice, you should _never_ use physick when adloqium available; if tank taking enough damage for heal spamming to make sense the shield will always be fully drained, and if tank not taking that much damage cast art of war / ruin until shield and chunk of hp gone.

The only way I can see it is they're very clearly different species, where as 14 has essentially all human-like races. So you could picture a Hyur dating a Mi'qote, etc. Don't get me wrong, still a stupid argument.

Because, ironically, they don't see WoW races as appealing, whereas the XIV races are all meant to be attractive, so they short circuit. But yeah, WoW is objectively the 'furry' one between the 2.

Well Asmon already passed that period and he's is in the "cat girl isn't furry" group now.

@@kou7191 That's a good point. People think they're hilarious when they call taurens sexy, and although some (will pretend they) mean it, furry races in WoW are far enough on the furry-spectrum that most people's minds don't even register the possibility of attraction. Some do, but most likely do not. In FFXIV, cat girls are far enough on the human spectrum to be reasonably attracted, so like you said...they question it, then short circuit.

@@DuoMaxwellDS I am so proud of him to have joined us too!

In FFXIV most idiots just argue in novice network.

@@autisonm indeed. It's the 1 channel i avoided like the plague when i still had access to it.

@@TheAssirra I've never even used it. Better off just asking questions on the subreddit's dedicated daily question thread or just asking in /shout.

@@Edheldui Hell yeah gonna work from home when EW hits and I'll just sit afk the entire day while working so I can undercut people every 5 minutes. Already looking forward to all that sweet moolah I'll be making

@@autisonm I totally forgot that existed lmao

Those thing could get people banned. Not playing the way you like is no reason to kick

@@Contevent totally, i didnt banned him because i wasnt sure, since i have never did that before, but he deseved it so so much

@@MelaniAlarcon Well, report him if you still have his name. If you don't, be aware of your rights next time

@@Contevent totally, thank you!

Its already out there and spreading, just saying :D

As soon as I saw that text box pop up, I was like "Time to pause this to see what hilarity is crammed into this frame" lol

I played on high pop WoW servers for over 15 years and I have NEVER met a furry ERP guy. The worst I've ever seen is just the usual cow roleplayers... you know, the moo jokes.

It's not just the game. Back in vanilla people were nice and helpful in pugs more often than not. Then, little by little, the "go go go" mentality gamers took over. I was actually shocked by how try-hard people were in classic by comparison.

I think they'll try something drastic on the next expansion, something that will do wonders in turning the tide. I believe in WoW's redemption, but I think it will only happen if they get a big enough hit. Hopefully more and more people will quit. We can all go back when things improve.

@@azahel542 people have said the next expansion will be great and fix wow every single time. People said it about shadowbringers even. They'll say they know they messed up and are fixing everything and everyone will get hyped and it will repeat

Holy shit i had the same exact thoughts. I hate WoW and Blizzard now because of how shit everything is, but then I remember my times I played as a fury warrior or arms warrior and miss it because FF doesn't have an equivalent in terms of gameplay.

2h class DPS? dont worry FF14 has it covered... next expansion Endwalker there will be REAPER with 2h scythe as dps.

@@dariusissobel5470 yeh but I don't think it's the type they want. Reaper is half magical too and it's a light weight 2h. Dragoon also has a 2h as they pointed out, samurai too.

Hrothgar is the correct spelling, but you were close! And yeah, it's pretty good.

It was designed for far put camera and rts roots with even further out camera, which looks fine far away, it's when you zoom in is when that art style begins to fail.

he's glamoured it. he thinks it looks so stupid that its good and keeps it on as a glam for the meme

Not to defend Ion here, but I really doubt a lot of the decisions about Shadowlands were his Ideas. Ideas like "conduit energy" clearly are coming from upper management, it's Ion's job to get it implemented and sell it to the player base. I think there is some real misperception of what his job is, he's not the Yoshi-P of WoW. That being said, him stepping down for his own sanity wouldn't be a crazy idea either.