For drummers and guitarists Morgan Agren (Kaipa) and Fredrik Thordendal (Meshuggah): Sol Niger Within Medley from Fredrik Thordendal's "Special Defects" NICE
I remember when this series had just aired on public television in Sweden. Everyone who was musicians had it recorded, people we’re watching it in tour busses, i was watching it with my musician buddies (drummer myself), and we we’re all laughing our asses off at how this show must have destroyed the confidence of an insane amount of aspiring drummers. It was setup as a show with lessons in drumming, with some jam sessions for inspiration. On a part of Swedish public tv called UR (utbildningsradion, educational shows teaching practical skills mostly). But the thing was, Morgan thought it was perfectly reasonable to focus the lessons on crazy shit like playing super advanced rudiments in like a 7/8 while playing a bossanova polyrhythm on with your feet like that type of stuff was the drumming 101. So we where just looking at this series shaking our head and laughing at how preposterous it was to think that anyone would actually be able to learn something from this crazy ass show. Morgan is absolutely insane, one of the best drummers on the planet imo. And this medley jam is legendary, can’t get enough of it.
Every episode I this show (Trum) can be found on Morgan Ågren’s RU-vid channel. Including jamming sessions, drumming lesions and Morgan’s music record recommendations. It’s brilliant.
@@JBrooksNYS The album was remixed and re-released by Ultimate Audio Entertainment and Relapse Records in 1999 under the title "Sol Niger Within version 3.33"
i thought that myself, either that or frederik is merely possessed by the spirits of djent. really he doesnt look like hes even concentrating at all, almost watching himself produce this insane brutal metal and amusing himself watching morgan
+Daniel Verberne About half way through this video a word began to float into my mind, that word was "tight". lol not even kidding this was before i read the comments too. Tight indeed.
He's got a very peculiar way of playing, it's almost like you think "Is he gonna drop it here...how is he gonna complete this part??", and he just explodes, in a kind weird arythmic but hyper-rytmic way, and your jaw drops and...he just nails the most brutal passages. Amazing!
He is not underrated. Every talented musician has one of these absurd comments lurking. Where do you morons even get the idea that he is underrated? Is it because he isn't well-known by the masses who wouldn't recognize his ability anyway? Is it because he isn't selling millions of records as Billie Eilish's drummer? Good grief.
@JM Coulon Exactly. I would have to say his name to probably well over 100 people before I met someone who knew of his work and skills. Since most people don't know him, he does not "rate" prominently in their pantheon of musicians. Ergo, under-"rated".
honestly didn't think anyone could replace Fredrik Thordendal but Per Nilsson has been great, but I definitely didn't think there could be anyone to even remotely replace Tomas Haake. Morgan Agren is absolute amazing. Guess Sweden just has incredible mind-bending musicians on standby
Australia is like this too, the level of musicianship is very high for no real good reason, don’t get me wrong there’s a lot of middle of the road musicians but then there’s some guys that are just on another level and some above them even that approach virtuoso level like these guys
This is insane. Agren is a monster. Holy shit. Are you kidding me? I am freaking out. This is the best jam I have ever seen. This is unreal. Agren should be in top 10 with that performance.
This still makes me giggle like a kid watching Morgan just smother that drum kit. Some vids of the tour he is doing with Devin using the GigPig are great also
Meshuggah, to me, is like a machine. Everything sounds mechanical and precise. Haake is literally a clock that has all those insane rhythms deeply embedded in himself. Agren’s playing is very fluid and more human despite also looking impossible lol. It’s amazing seeing how different styles of drumming can go along with Thordendal’s alien metal guitar riffs.
Mats and Morgan are often described as a virtuos duo. Yet Morgan says he's not after being technical, the way he learned to play drums was to improvise for hours on end without following any specific rythm and that they don't strive to play technical, they simply play the sounds they like and this their sound is simply the outcome of this. How inspiring aint that? :)
The majesty of this is phenomenal, just the way they play together and the look of ease on their faces like „hey man shouldn’t we additionally talk in algebra while playing“
This is what high level chemistry looks and sounds like!! All musicians deserve their rite of passage in finding this, it's a magical process that brings out your full potential!!!
i think whatever level you think you're at, or whatever level you are actually at, this is next level. and you get the impression that it is to these two also.
yeah that's such a great little fill though isn't it, so fluid, fits so well in the precise / technical music. sounds like the start of 'peaches en regalia' all of a sudden! no wonder he shoots him a grin.
Thordendal and Ågren could make any song to be listened in the gym that instantly would cause hypertrophy at all the muscles without even lifting one single halter. Long live Fredrik Thordendal and Morgan Ågren! Skål!
Yes, it is from a drumming course on Swedish national television called "Trum". I Believe Morgan released it himself later on under the title "On Air With Guests". Not sure if it that included video though, might have been audio only. @The Stupid will Inherit the Earth
Given the apparent age of the clip, uploading it in 4K would be pretty pointless. The quality isn't gonna magically improve beyond what it was back in the 90s by making a "higher-definition" version.
fucking mental, been a guitar player for years but morgan and elliot hoffman make me want to do a complete 180 and dedicate my life to drums. been watching this video for years and it never gets old
gota love it when two differnt musicians from completely differnt musical backgrounds can collaborate and pull some shit off like this. drummer fuckin shreds and fredrick can keep the best tempo with the simplest groove and make it sound amazing.
I've seen Morgan a number of times, wilder than this w/ Fleshquartet since 1988 - check out their albums! Morgan plays on some - check out "Fleshtime" on the album "Flow" for starters. My best friend is a drummer, and while living in Sweden he asked Morgan after a memorable concert, if he gave lessons. Unfortunately not at the time (1992). But he has been a great inspiration though, at a point my friend started a concept with impossible timings and shifts and the band went along, extreme and original. So go for it!
If anyone could "replace " Keith Moon, it's this guy. Just as crazy as Keithbehind the kit, but with totally awsome killer chops. Great drum sound as well.
My wife's young cousin had Morgan as a teacher for a short while (Morgan lives/lived near him and me) which made me very jealous as I've been quite a capable drummer since I was very young and the cousin where not really talent material (do I sound bitter?🙄hmm)... I would have liked to get some lessons by Morgan, we are about the same age. He's such a talent it's mental! He and Mats Öberg are so great playing together. One of the top drummers around.
I saw this when it first aired on Swedish tv and I didn't understand what the tape on the top 3 strings was all about. Fast forward some 15 years and I do it all the time when tracking heavy rhythm guitar.
Currently watching this now, this now hits me like an instrumental jam session of Meshuggah's "Contradictions Collapse" w/ "Destroy, Erase, Improve"..... If that makes sense to anyone!
Scotti Ian, one of my favourite guitar players of all time said that best chuggers on this planet are James Hetfield and Kerry King. He continued that Fredrik isn´t from this planet.. I myself consider Scott Ian as the best palm mute player, because of listening to Anthrax since 1987. And I have "stolen" some if his stuff to my own bands songs.
