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Precision Matthews TL1640: Part 3 - DRO Install & Leveling 

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I install the DRO PROs EL400 and then Level the Precision Matthews TL1640.
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Комментарии : 70   
@jimc3688
@jimc3688 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing the step by step setup !
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Thank you!
@toolbox-gua
@toolbox-gua 4 года назад
Enjoying every bit. Thank you.
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Thank YOU!
@Engineerd3d
@Engineerd3d 4 года назад
Very nice work Brad! Can't wait to see that machine cutting some serious parts.
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Thank you - and yes, me too. Next video.
@PhilsProjects
@PhilsProjects 4 года назад
Thanks Brad, take care
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Thank Phil!!
@bid6413
@bid6413 4 года назад
Brad, Congratulations being able to buy this beautiful machine speaks to a lot of hard work on your part.
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Thank you so much!
@richardbradley961
@richardbradley961 4 года назад
NICE WORK.
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop 4 года назад
Looking good Brad. That's sure is a sweet machine....
@arnoldsmachinetool4632
@arnoldsmachinetool4632 4 года назад
Looking good Hope the break in went good and looking forward to seeing her cut.
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Me too - next video.
@pbmachines972
@pbmachines972 4 года назад
Man nice setup👌you’ll be working with a smile
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Thank you, and yes I'm loving the hell out of this machine!
@CalPil0t
@CalPil0t 4 года назад
You have come a long way from the SB 9A days. I'm enjoying your videos while hunkering down in the Florida panhandle. Not likely to be able to get up to Pennsylvania anytime soon, but will as soon as practical.
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Thank Bryan! We're all under lockdown anyway.
@halfbit
@halfbit 2 года назад
I would think the chip pan would have a slope toward the drain built in by design.
@spidersinspace1099
@spidersinspace1099 2 года назад
I agree, I would check the chip pan to see if a slope was engineered into it's construction.
@danmacdonald1291
@danmacdonald1291 3 года назад
That’s a beautiful lathe! Sunmaster manufacture some fine machinery... well done mate!
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 3 года назад
Thanks mate, cheers!!
@danmacdonald1291
@danmacdonald1291 3 года назад
@@BasementShopGuy I'm literally ordering an RML 1440 next monday, it was such a delight to find your video series as there isn't much in the way of decent reviews on these larger machines... Thank you for putting up the awesome content! Have you tried using the traverse revers lever whilst you have threaded a metric or imperial thread with the half nuts engaged or does it only work on the cross slide travel?
@RagsdaleCreek
@RagsdaleCreek 4 года назад
The chip pan should drain fine with the lathe level they are designed that way. Or at least the ones we had at work were. Very nice lathe
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Yeah, as I'm starting to see.
@Meeky815
@Meeky815 4 года назад
Update video!
@OldtimeIronman
@OldtimeIronman 4 года назад
Beautiful machine, I'm jealous! :D Its just the right size and setup to do everything.... on the chip pan and drainage, I wouldn't tilt it, I would just level in all directions and clean the pan with a kitty litter scoop and squeegee... make life easier on myself. Have a pail with a bunch of holes sitting over a barrel to drain the swarf.
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Great tip, thank you.
@ronkluwe4875
@ronkluwe4875 4 года назад
Brad - Recommend you re-think using polycarbonate under the leveling pads. All plastics continue to creep over time and it is the continuous load of the lathe on the polycarbonate that will cause deformation over time. Can't wait to see first chips off that machine. Regards; Ron
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Good tip, yes I'll be swapping those headstock-side pads out for some steel ones. Thanks!
@SH-pc4xt
@SH-pc4xt 4 года назад
I want to add my thanks for an interesting video series! While the TL1640 is beyond anything I need, I am experiencing mission creep having gone over 18 months from the PM-1030 to the PM-1236T, and then PM-1340GT. Your lathe is in another league, but I hope there is good family genes across the Taiwanese models in the PM lineup.
@ronalddavis
@ronalddavis 4 года назад
I always see you buying new equipment and doing a tremendous amount of cleaning. do you ever make anything or would that cause an unclean condition
@EverettsWorkshop
@EverettsWorkshop 4 года назад
Nice, you got the good DROs, not cheap ones! And it was cool to see your leveling process. I found after leveling mine when installing the new pedestal feet that it needed a slight tweak a couple days later after settling, did yours need it too? Yours might be much more rigid.
@cave-works
@cave-works 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing, is 36” linear scale will be enough on travel length of the carriage?
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 4 года назад
Doing that on a new machine with unworn ways looks lots easier then guessing averages on an old worn unit. Those levels are very sensitive.
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Exactly. I'm going to re-level it once I start dialing out any taper. That's really the way to dial-in the precision. I'll also replace those acrylic plates the headstock side is resting on.
@unclebuck5051
@unclebuck5051 4 года назад
Congrats on the new lathe, she’s looking good. Didn’t you have an Eisen at one point?
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Yes sir. For less than a year. Sold it to buy a Hardinge turret lathe and my old South Bend 10L
@rayferrara
@rayferrara 4 года назад
Impressive! Seems like a lot of work. Can you buy this machine with a DRO already installed?
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Ray Ferrara Great question Ray! I actually had this DRO so I didn’t need one. But Precision Matthews offers DROs and installation.
@davidcole6236
@davidcole6236 4 года назад
Not just wrapped in the wrong direction {teflon tape}, but you should never use tape or dope on compression fittings (flare fittings are one of the many styles of compression fittings). Just hand tighten and torque another flat or so.
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
David Cole Thanks for the tip! I’ll remove it, so it’s done right. Good eye on the wrap direction, however, take another look and notice the edit. I noticed it too and went back and wrapped in the correct direction 😎
@davidcole6236
@davidcole6236 4 года назад
You missed the more important part; you arent supposed to tape or dope compression fittings. They are intended to be dry fit, run nut up till it stoppes, then tighten w/wrench about one more flat. See: blog.parker.com/proper-assembly-steps-for-37-flare-fittings-using-the-flats-method
@davidcole6236
@davidcole6236 4 года назад
Note: the MAIN reason to NOT use thread sealant (tape or dope) is that it does no good! If there is leakage, it will simply come out around the stem (tubing) that goes through the nut. It can also CAUSE leakage if some of it gets between the two flared (or ferrule and taper) surfaces. It can also interfere with proper mating of the threads, causing incorrect COMPRESSION (hence the NAME of this catagory of fitting) of the mating surfaces either as misalignment or even cracking of the sealing surfaces . It might not matter @ the pressures of a coolant system, but pneumatic or hydraulic pressures will not be so forgiving. Hope this helps. Dave
@unclebuck5051
@unclebuck5051 4 года назад
I love RU-vid.
@SH-pc4xt
@SH-pc4xt 4 года назад
@@BasementShopGuy WARNING: This comment is probably not worth reading, but I can't help myself. In case you run into plumbing connections where you should use teflon tape: In the video as posted you started out wrapping the teflon in the correct direction (the first 50 frames or so), then you dissolve to a new shot where you complete the the wrapping which is in the wrong direction. So the edit appears to show that when you "caught" the mistake, you actually "made" a mistake. This is confirmed when you then tighten the taped joint with right-hand threads. The tape should be wrapped in the same direction that you would turn a fastener (like a nut) onto the same threads. This is so when you join the threaded parts, friction is not trying to "unwrap" the tape...
@user-tw9io9nz2m
@user-tw9io9nz2m 4 года назад
If you really care about rest coolant flowing into your drain then maybe it would be better to put the level into the chip pan. I can't imagine anyone at Precision Matthews will guarantee the chip pan is parallel with the top of the compound slide to a tolerance within which you tipped it out of level. It's sheetmetal, it might even be slightly bowed and cause puddles to form. Precision Matthews might even already have taken that into account when they designed the machine and tilted the chip pan slightly under the lathe bed.
@zumbazumba1
@zumbazumba1 4 года назад
Or since its sheet metal you could just hit it with a hammer :)Or shim it -but yea nobody makes perfect parallel chip pans to the bedway.I seen and worked on several lathes but i never saw one with the coolant fluid sieve where this one has - all of them had it on upper right corner.
@jimc3688
@jimc3688 4 года назад
Seems simple enough to have the plenty of pitch built into the chip pan while the bed is level.
@user-tw9io9nz2m
@user-tw9io9nz2m 4 года назад
The property you're looking for with the polycarbonate feet is compressive modulus, not tensile modulus. They are not the same, depending on the gade and manufacturing process of the polycarbonate it can be as low as 2600 psi (according to my short google search). The feet are obviously overbuilt and will be plenty strong enough. However next time you calculate something it might be closer to the limits of the material. Then it's very important to choose the correct property to enter into your calculations.
@barrygerbracht5077
@barrygerbracht5077 4 года назад
Modulus refers to its stiffness, not strength. You want compressive strength, creep flow etc. The pressures this lathe is exerting on the pads is in the 100's of PSI. It will not be a problem. Pressure = force/area. assuming he has 67% of the weight on the headstock which would be about 2000lb/4 pads / (pi*1.5^2) assuming 3" diameter pads = 70psi. The noted compressive strength of polycarbonate is greater than its tensile strength BTW and is in the 12,000 psi range, which is 2-3x more than the concrete the lathe is sitting on.
@user-tw9io9nz2m
@user-tw9io9nz2m 4 года назад
@@barrygerbracht5077 Yes, my bad for using the wrong term. I did not learn physics in English natively. If I actually meant stiffness, the number would have been in ksi, not psi. According to the data I found, compressive yield strength of extruded polycarbonate is 2610 - 12500 psi compared to 8500 - 10200 psi tensile yield strength. The maximum compressive yield value is around 12000 psi indeed but it has a very wide band under that and since the origin and state of the material is unknown, calculating with maximum values is not wise in my opinion. It's important to remember this is more of an academic thought experiment for future use in calculations than a worry for his feet right now as I stated in my first comment. Link to where I pulled my data: www.matweb.com/search/DataSheet.aspx?MatGUID=501acbb63cbc4f748faa7490884cdbca&ckck=1
@unclebuck5051
@unclebuck5051 4 года назад
I am not worthy!
@pauldzim
@pauldzim 4 года назад
Wait ... BasementShopGuy has his machines in his garage? When did that happen?
@billbuckalew9497
@billbuckalew9497 4 года назад
Brad: Very nice work. Curious about your DRO installation on the X. Is your cross slide lock located on the backside of the table, and if so, did the X-scale cover it up?
@qcnck2776
@qcnck2776 4 года назад
@Bill: I have a 1236T and had PM install the DRO. And the X scale does cover it up so I can't lock the cross slide.
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
I'll have to look at some pics to see, but honestly, I NEVER used, or use and cross slide lock.
@billbuckalew9497
@billbuckalew9497 4 года назад
@@qcnck2776 Thanks. There are two alternatives shown in Mgs#1 and Msg#3 (in the link below) for installing that lock, and I'm trying to figure out which is the better way to go on my PM-1440GT www.hobby-machinist.com/threads/erl-1340-cross-slide-lock-for-dro-equipped-lathes.78854/#post-673284
@billbuckalew9497
@billbuckalew9497 4 года назад
@@BasementShopGuy Appreciate your response. Thanks!
@qcnck2776
@qcnck2776 4 года назад
@@billbuckalew9497 Thanks for the links! Very clever ways to get it done.
@carlthor91
@carlthor91 4 года назад
Are you sure the chip pan isn't tapered to the sump. Just doesn't compute. Cheers
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Carl Thor it might be. But having the machine dipping a few thousands is fine.
@TERRYRONALDRACKLEY
@TERRYRONALDRACKLEY 4 года назад
Don't they sell them with the dro already installed?
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Yorkiepoocharlie Good eye! But look close you’ll see the edit. I realized and went back and re did it.
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Yes they do. I just had one to use so need to buy an additional one.
@MrMichaeljab
@MrMichaeljab 4 года назад
Pass the Dramamine please.
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
MrMichaeljab are you getting seasick, lol?
@Elwould23
@Elwould23 4 года назад
a 98 is .005 per graduation per foot. or per foot per graduation...lol I think you know what I mean though
@BasementShopGuy
@BasementShopGuy 4 года назад
Yeah, I thought so. Like I mentioned in the vid, I wasn't 100% sure.
@Elwould23
@Elwould23 4 года назад
@@BasementShopGuy yeah dude, I wasn't trying to correct you per se. I was just letting you know. seeing as you said you weren't sure. the machine looks like a beauty, curious to see how true she'll run. Cheers!
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