1) limping 2) not being positionally aware 3) playing too passive pre flop 4) not calling with the big blind enough 5) raising too wide or not enough from the button 6) not raising enough from small blind 7) playing too tight from the button 8) over valuing offsuit hands 9) calling massive re-raises pre flop
would really love to see some graphics or even just some text to indicate which point u r talking about and what the main point is. for example for "never limp" u could put "never limp" in top right corner as a title for the amount of time u talk about that topic and when u move to the topic of "positional awareness" u could put that int he corner and so on "Never Limp" - deny blind equity - pick up initiative - disguise hand strenght - limp behind another limper
that is not my point but it is scientifically proven that visualization of information helps processing it and it also helps pointing out which arguments/talking points are the most important while not having to say everything out loud. just trying to help ryan here to on how he could improve his videos. dunno why u get so aggressive about it lol. merry christmas buddy
I think it’s funny people get mad about how fast he talks. He prob talks faster then most these people can even think. I appreciate the amount of information he spews in these videos some of them are imo way to slow. If you can’t keep up you prob a fish anyways
@9:00 One thing I would add about playing the button pre-flop: it's also one of the most effective positions to use for isolating an initial preflop raiser with your stronger holdings, even if those holdings are slightly inferior to the open ranges of those raising in front of you. This can be especially profitable in live cash games when you have weaker players on the table who tend to buy in for smaller stacks and only come into the pot with strong hands. It's harder to ISO these types of players from the cutoff, hijack, or blind positions.
K R you actually lose more because you are not denying your opponents equity, and making your hand less profitable. The theoretical money you could have won but didn’t because you limped instead of 3-bet vastly outweighs the value of limping and losing a blind. You are losing money when you limp
Watch phil hellmuth play, hes one of the best players and he limps all the time. He's also a calling station. The amount of players you can trap that 3-bet/4-bet, especially the amateurs that don't know how to play post-flop and will jam with weak hands, while you hold the nuts.
Limping does allow cheaper hands to get to the flop, but the pots are going to be really small to capitalize on your decent hand. If it's a big table, don't limp the preflop, but if it's only 3 to 5, it might be a good idea.
thing is this might work against good players but when you play smaller games , people literally call anything regardless what u do and when you hit nothing u got no way out as people literally call anything and show no respect and most of the time they get rewarded
Should "never limp" pre-flop be a rule set in stone, though? I guess it opens a lot of doors for trash hands to come into flop. Next thing you know, BB with 63o flops 457, rendering your AA or KK useless. This is based on my experience only. But, certainly at the beginning of tournaments when the blinds are $25/$50 or $50/$100, even if you raise to $500~1000 with AA, KK or AK, I find that about the half of the table will call your raise anyway. I'm talking about both online micros and live tournaments that I play. Sometimes, I feel like you're only putting yourself in a difficult spot by raising, and having a hugely inflated pot with half the table calling.
Popdisplay seriously I watch so many poker strategy videos everyone speaks so fast and never uses basic terms it's always something said at 200 mph like " when you call raise a re raise from the earliest middle spot in a no limit limit pot vs a fish tag who's a lag nit and double barrels a king x into a set flip flop ...." I get a migraine
limping in can disquise the strength of your hand and pay off huge in certain situations. Also, it's pot control, so you dont go broke with the AKs that misses
Really ya all! Ryan is giving us some extremely valuable tips here to help our games and you're going to kick him when you should be thanking him along with the other pro's at upswing poker!
limping can be profitable in an early position with a strong hand, you can allow weaker players to also limp, and the majority of the time a player will raise to try get people to fold out and then it gives an option to re raise or call . if you re raise generally someone will have alarm bells of some sort going off but generally will call, if you call they will under value your hand. limping is entirely dependent on how you play, don't say you should never limp, a more accurate statement would be, never limp unless its a hand you can raise with. (again not true for 100% of situations)
I limp to punish players like yourself. I can either call your raise when it comes back to me (say I have KK or AA at utg+1), along with a few other callers before me, OR I can 3bet your raise (to 6x) and play heads up. Either way, you are the under dog against these callers and me in a multiway pot (if I decide not to 3bet). Therefore, the moral of the story is that you should only raise with good hands most of the time. Don't be raising with shit or you'll lose.
I think limping isn't a never do whatsoever. If you have a marginal hand it gives you a cheaper chance to connect on a flop without the risk of losing 2bb or 3bb. Also what about when you have a great starting hand for example . I have AA and if I raise even two Bb no one calls all I get are the blinds and I don't make anything with the aces. Sometimes the only way to make anything with a good hand is limping cause as soon as you raise everyone else folds
Never say never, limping QQ+ is a great play in games where there's enough maniacs to make the probability of a PFR near 100% especially if a maniac is on your left trapping the rest of the table!
If you want to get to the level of the people who make a living at poker you need to learn poker lingo like limp open 3bet and if you want to learn all the advanced concepts you need to learn poker terms first. Otherwise it would take infinitely longer trying to explain every strategy and using one word nicknames for things is just about effiency in getting your point across mainly and less about it sounding cool or something. If you're a beginner you should be practicing with play money. Then learn all the poker terms to start. And then start with concepts like check raising 3 betting Slow playing Position And bet sizing This guys video right here is explaining more advanced concepts and by the time you should be trying to learn from this video you should already have an understanding of pot odds Equity As a general common sense to you
It's difficult to find beginner resources on RU-vid. Most vids assume at least a moderate degree of poker knowledge. I'd probably start a beginner on some older books first...Little Green Book and the Harrington books. While they are a bit dated, they still offer great information and importantly they are written in plain language that a new player can easily understand. I 'd probably then navigate to Slansky before finally dipping my toes into the youtube video scene.
Nice vid ryan , i already am familiar with most of these strategies but def helped sharpen them up a bit , good job. If you can just speak more clear that would be awesome, still understood everything but it would be easier. Cheers
with poker you have to gamble at somepoint..if i go all in with a set and lose its ok ...if i double up 2 out of 3 times its good.non sequitor but just one my mind!
You’re facing an UTG+1 raise and you’re in the hijack with AJo or KQo early in a large field tournament. As a habit what do you do? Knowing at these stages people don’t usually fold, 3 betting rarely isolates like you want it to, so is it best just to fold, or call-fold to 3 bets? I feel this is where I am making mistakes online.
I haven't played in some time needed to have a break BUT when Montreal opens up again and the WPT comes back to Canada I hope to see you there. Remember to have fun as that will help your game. If you have a hand and somebody 3 bets you big put all their chips in the pot and enjoy the victory
3 betting more in the sb at 1-2 doesn't do shit. They call lite, there's always a short stack calling you down or all in on there draw / bottom pair on the flop or turn. Be selective
Appreciate the video. It would help if you spoke a bit more slowly and/or scripted ahead of time to more selectively hit what you really think is important. The wordy descriptions get pretty hard to follow based on how fast you're talking. Maybe break the video into chunks so you too can rest between topics. Would also allow for selective editing. Either way, good tips.
Ryan - great video, thanks for posting. How would you say any of these strategies would be affected in tournament play vs. cash? Which would be affected most? Thx
25 minutes worth of information squeezed into 15 minutes of film that took me 60 minutes to decipher. Overall good information though. Just slow down next time.
Don't agree with the "never limp preflop" assessment. Your raising preflop is red flag everywhere and will get smacked by players in late positions, making your life difficult and ultimately forcing you to tighten your open range, such as A10 suited. Seen many good players limp and perform well post flop. I have also observed the players that open a lot don't seem to perform well in the long run on average because more often than not the preflop raises are called mostly by "better hands" and good players.
In Poker - essp when playing 100's of hands with the same table "Never" is not a word "Never" - means you are predictable. "Never limping" means that when you do bet they can put you on an even smaller range of hands Never limp might better be "Never be weak - and never leave yourself with only bad options - in the long term" Limping in position with a marginal hand when no-one has shown strength is Ok some times, 9-10 suited in a decent position. Let's say 8 at the table. Only 1 out of 6 before you called the big blind so far. You've played enough hands with those behind you to know their play style. The guys behind you only ever bet the goods. Or maybe one of them is a habitual limper. 1 time out of 5 - go ahead - limp. See 3 cheap cards. The trick then is, on the flop. Go hard or go home. A second limp should be even rarer than a first. A once every 500 hands move. But not a NEVER move. Nothing in Poker is a never move.
Never try and force it it will come. The biggest mistake I see people make is once they lose a hand they try and force the game. What I mean is once they lose a big pot they start going all in and that's the biggest mistake you can make. Yes sometimes they will get lucky but if you counting on luck to win consistently your in for trouble. So if you lose a big pot don't PANIK get up walk around for a minute grab a pop or coffee take a breath and sit back down. Never lettem see you sweat always smile and say nice hand.
I'm running into the problem (and it's my fault) when in the later stages of a tournament, I find myself being 3-bet relentlessly. I will raise with a decent holding in position (KQs 88 etc.) and find myself calling the 3 bet and then being forced to fold the C-Bet very often. What do I do to combat this? 4-bet lighter?
"being forced to fold flop to the c-bet" there you go, that is your issue. If you want to fix it, you should become a better post flop player by learning about the game at a deeper level. Use a solver.
So never limp in because you're going to make it worth it for other hands to limp in. So that means that sometimes you should limp in? Yup. More nonsense from poker pros.
If you can't understand the lingo or concepts he is talking about I suggest you watch more basic videos and learn lingo, this video is titled for people trying to move up in stakes not beginners
That's bad advice limping should be part of your game. I guess it depends on if it's a cash game or tourney. Cash game aggression can be a good strat but tourny sometimes you have to give rope so they can hang themselves. If everybody plays the same then the best hand always has an edge. Remember it's a GAME and it's a strategy game. Sometimes you have to present an image at the table that's not how your actually playing. So if this guy here kept raising I would take his chips or his money lol. Here's a real tip for y'all. When playing cards for cash the amount is irrelevant you should play the same no matter the stakes approach the table with the same killer instinct and never be nice because nobody else will.
Thanks for sharing your insight. I think this video could be more concise (as an editor myself). And some graphics/supers to help guide the viewers what you're talking about. It's too conversational with too many examples that confuse us.
He may be great at poker but this is very poorly but together. Starts by telling us the #1 bad thing is to limp pre flop. After giving reasons why and saying it again he begins to move onto #2 bad thing. BUT, wait, oops I meant in early position pre flop, because there are hands you want to limp.... It's good Ryan plays poker better than putting together these poker tips. Plus he should do a little editing, that nose pick right at the beginning was the first sign that this was going to be a real amateur production!
Play different games like bridge hearts crib. I could play crib at 3 years old. Poker at 5 my father would let me play his hand in cash games at 5. I've played against some great players at all levels. I like to have fun and I like to watch other players while at the table as they can really be funny without knowing.
Hi Ryan. You mention 3betting suited connectors - why? If say, I have 87s and am facing a raise, why 3bet and potentially have to lay this down to a 4bet? I believe that hands such as 87s, 98s etc, are far more effective just flat calling and seeing a flop, lookng to potentially crack AA, KK, QQ etc... What are your thoughts? My 3betting range tends to currently revolve around hands like Q7s, J5s, K7s, A6s etc - hands that I would not be advserse to seeing a flop with, but would be quite happy folding to a 4bet. Thanks.
Jody Shelley I like your idea but i think suited connectors work well as 3bet bluffs preflop, and also realize a lot of equity postflop against the other players calling range against your 3bet. Also those suited connectors are happy to see a flop, while hands like Q7s play poorly postflop. I wanna know your thoughts though, very interesting :)
datonegoneboi I agree absolutely, I just get frustrated when I 3bet 98s and get 4bet/ jammed on, thus unable to see a flop and hit. I find 3betting something like Q7s takes away a lot of the pain. If the 3bet takes it down pre, great, if I get 4bet, then a fold is easy and if I get called, then I look to hit something big. If the flop comes Q high then I play it cautiously, look to pot control and get to a showdown. Respecting the 3bet calling range, I would happily fold to any big bet sizing, especially on the turn. Interesting stuff though.
There's this game called "Prominence Poker" which is an online multiplayer Texas Hold'em game, and quite fun. It's free, and you only play with virtual money. (You _can_ buy virtual currency with real money, but if you are even moderately good you never have to do that.) Maybe because of that, the gameplay (ie. how people play) is quite different from what I see in professional tournaments, and against many of the advice given in videos like this one. For example, 90% of the time _everybody_ limps pre-flop. If the big blind is eg. 100 coins (and the buy-in is 10k), then the vast majority of the time everybody will bet that 100, and that's it. Very, very rarely will you see any sort of significant raise pre-flop. (And even then, in most cases, if somebody raises, it will be typically to 200 or 300. Very rarely will you see somebody raising to 500 or more in pre-flop.) I might have learned really bad habits because of that. I have become quite good at "abusing" this sort of really meek play style that 99% of people engage in there. I almost always limp pre-flop, and play really conservatively, and very, very rarely try to bluff. I only start betting when I have a really strong hand. My general tactic is to, in most cases, just wait for the others to eliminate each other, and get myself to at least 2nd place that way, sometimes 1st. (You get 150% of the buy-in for 2nd place, and usually your rating raises, so ending up 2nd is a good outcome.) In the ranked tournament leaderboards there are usually several tens of thousands of people, and I'm typically at position 30 or such. This tactic, however, might not work in an actual Texas Hold'em tournament, though. I have noticed that I'm very weak against players who play very aggressively. Quite often, when there are only two players left, ie. we are playing head to head, if the other guy plays really aggressively, I just can't win. In at least 90% of cases I just lose. If I play conservatively, I lose; if I play aggressively, I lose; if I try something in between, I lose. I need to get really, really lucky to win. I just can't understand why. In most cases my tournament wins were against another guy who played very conservatively and meekly as well.
I agree with most of it but limping can be really profitable against some agressive player if you plan to limp-3bet. Ive made so much money of that because of the times ive got them dominated and they call my 3bet because of the fact that i undervalue my hand
Hi, you say some players tend to Over-value off-suit hands.....But if you open Equilab and compare suited and off-suited hands against each others , its only about a 4% equity difference....... so could you elaborate a little and explain what i am missing here? I always tough being suited didn't worth much in Texas-No-Limit Holdem but apparently i could be very wrong? - Else great video : i realised i dont put enough importance in blind battles so ill work on that now :--[]
Recently played at a really soft home game where 80-90% f the time, almost every player limped. I find in that situation, it becomes profitable to limp yourself with almost every hand. Basically, you get a crazy cheap price to see the flop, and you can hit all kinds of crazy hands that you can take it down with, even with shitty hole cards. If I have a strong hand, I'll raise it to 4-6 bigs. Then you only get called by others with strong hands, and you can play post-flop with an accurate read on their range. Also mix it up with the same size raise with weak hands every now and then so it doesn't become easy to know that a raise always means a strong hand. Obviously this strategy only works in this weird situation.
No, you should always open raise. When people limp ahead of you, you can overlimp with small pocket pairs, small suited aces and suited connectors.. Raising a limp wouldnt be a bad idea either
thanks Ryan. Always enjoy your lessons. One small request...I think you're a fast talker probably in general. But, you're especially fast when giving lessons. Please slow it down a notch :) i tried to slow down the video but the only option is .5 speed which makes you sound super drunk. ( it was funny for a minute) cheers!
How do u avoid big pair vs bigger pair scenario. I grind well but keep loosing my profit with kk or aa when q flops sets or when the board is dry and i got kk. Online play.
lot of really good information, but no visual aides, which with such a fast talker it's really needed. I'm a small player, trying to get better, but seriously, the fast talk just made me not finish the video. Would be great if he slowed down and used visual aides. But I did get good info for several the 10 he spoke about
The pre flop mistake I am avoiding is listening to Ryan and his random babbling...dude, please please please...write down what you want to say and then just read it out loud. You train of though is a rollercoaster without seatbelts.
i notice you not posting plo vids anymore. are you not playing ignition? i played 30/60 o8/lhe before the switch, but haven't checked out ignition yet. is it just no good anymore?
If someone is raising very aggressively pre flop, but only calling raises, sometimes I will limp from early with a big PP because I know they will raise, then when I reraise they will call. On the flip side if I just raised, they would have only called.
Murray Herts If you take that line i think 4betting is not great as most of his range raising you would be garbage and we don't mind him keeping him in pot & catching a piece, even bad players agrofish think of limp raises are extremely strong and rightfully so as it's nearly always a monster.
most common poker play ever... limp utg with AA, wait for a raise, then RR only to have everyone fold because you obviously have a big PP. Most polarizing poker play ever. Do it with a hand like j10 suited
***** no i understood your content. using your observation of a player and setting up a play. the problem is, it is too polarizing of a play if you are only doing it with KK and AA. depending on who and how many people are left to act after me, id rather see a call. although you are playing the hand OOP, you are doing so, when you are well ahead of opponents range, keeping him in with his worse hand. RR get you at most, that extra bet. Unless he is completely unobservant and you absolutely are sure he will call your RR.
Against agrotards i nearly never 4 bet even with my nutted hands unless i have some history as these guys barrel off their stacks on every freakin scare card and sometimes don't even need that... also always tank against these guys with the nuts or even 2nd pair as that's good most often...it's quite funny but these guys can't even imagine you ever tanking with no decision and it's easy $$$ when they inevitably barrel assuming you are weak.
I've replayed this 3 times already just to get all the content. I might have to sign up for the Lab to go step by step and undo years of bad habits ;) Great stuff!
Unless i have a great hand AND I have a crap ton of chips I'm never betting before the flop. Sometimes the poker jargon in so annoying because I have no clue what half of them mean
Question: in low stakes live cash games, there are almost always many limpers and callers pre-flop. Does this mean I should almost always be using a "vs limp" range when I am acting after them? Or should I simply ignore the open limps and limps and be using the RFI range when there are limpers ahead of me? And if I do use the RFI range vs limps and open limps, is it okay to raise to only 3BB so long as I am raising the same amount consistently to disguise my hand strength? I find that limpers almost always call my "small" raises and I don't want to have to change my bet sizing for hands that play better heads up. This question comes up because I am confused by the term "raise first in" because almost every low stake live cash game is limped in, so does "raising first in" apply to being the first person to raise behind open-limpers and limpers? Even floor people at casinos were confused when I asked them about these terms. Great video, Ryan. Thank you!
Fix your sound, put some damn text on the screen and if you’re trying to convey information try not speed reading. Has anyone given you good feedback about this video? Don’t answer.
4 bet from the BB with aces against getting called by A3 suited and KK got A3 hits the straight flop😅 got stacked and kings won while we went all in in the flop all 3 justice🤩
Limping is never a good plan, however, it becomes profitable when you have fish at the table who limp call there entire range ! Always make a plan based on who's in the pot ,
