Pregnant Woman Tries to Save Daughter With Leukemia | Chicago Med 

You mean the script the writers wrote for her? 😂 Oh, yes, she's a real angel!

Paula, making a note on the character of a person, fictional or not, is not a reason for nasty comments.

​@@paulabogomolova666no No no

@@KaiTheTyrantbut she is not really

No she’s not, she’s traumatized and copes the only way she knows how.

Omg exactly

@@PheadrasArts gg nnee no jnnn

Parents should never survive their children, if the conditions were normal, it would be the reality ... These are extreme circumstances ... Even if the mother ends up in a coma, it is not certain that she will be able to carry the pregnancy to term ... In this case, three lives would be lost, not just one, which, however painful it may be, is something that must be considered, the mother, in my opinion, is making a mistake ... but we know that mothers do everything for their children .. .

You are talking as if the mother would read it. You realise this is a tv show, right?

If the mum passes away the kid is going i hate itself and it's life , blaming itself for the loss of its mother, and the weight of that is not a child can bear.

Agreed

When you're watching this, yes it is selfish but as a parent you will do anything to save your children and even if it is have children to help safe one. I will do it until there is nothing else I can do for my child. It is hard enough to give birth and seeing your child go through leukaemia and another child going through bone marrow to save their siblings, but you will feel even more guilty when you don't do anything and your child die knowing you did nothing. So you do need to pick and choose your battles, and you don't know the stem cells that they take can be from another child the same age as their own daughter.

@@lanilexander651 ...I know that as a parent you would do anything you can, but thats a human being, not a toolkit of spare parts! Imagine being born and learning you were brought into this world to prevent your sibling from dying. Its not only a great preassure to add to a kid, if they are a match, its not only stem cells, its a kidney, half the liver maybe...you would have to get under the knife múltiple times unless your sibling wins their battle, and if you are not a match...what now? Your parents had you for that sole purpose and you failed right at the start! Its disgusting. I think the "right" thing to do would test any family member first, get the cancer patient treatment as soon as possible and then tried the donor lists, having a child just a "spare parts" is just too much...)

agreed

I understand what you mean, but in the end what is the difference between "creating a kid for this purpose" and already having one that matches and then "using them"? In the end if the kid's very young the parents will decide... so I guess then you'd have to say that a sibling is never allowed to even be tested so this situation doesn't happen.

EXACTLYY UGH THIS EP INFURIATES ME SO MUCH

@@vilspotato8008 same

Well, think abt it this way: that mother's daughter is abt to die and the only way to save her it to have another baby. Her daughter's life is at risk, and the mother would clearly do anything to save her first born

@Halle George If the mother would have died the first born would feel guilty and misurable. That’s not a good thing.

@@potato252. the key word is "mother" here, she'll be a mother to one child but is willing to neglect the well being of her other children. It's a messed up contradiction.

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I know

Why why why why

I don't like it it's sad

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@@isabellelafond7651 Hi

The baby won’t “donate organs” only stem cells. I had a bone marrow transplant from a live male donor but he was 36. Sometimes your donor can be a sibling or even from the blood of an umbilical cord since cord blood is absolutely full of fresh stem cells.

Apparently, there’s a novel about this kind of story. A girl was born for the sole purpose of donating to her Leukemia sister, she get fed up when her parents want her to donate her kidney to her sister and decide to sue the family for mistreatment. You should have a read. Extremely well-written.

@@rellikzenkrad there’s also a movie I watched for a class

Rellik Zenkrad its called my sisters keeper by jodi picoult! its a rly good read :)

@@rellikzenkrad That sounds familiar. I felt like I've read it before

Because it is

Normally they get the stemmcells out of the umbilical cord .

I wouldn't say it's cruel it's more like self-catering cruel bc if u try to save ur child with leukemia it's not going to be easy

@@KristiContemplates and letting a child die is not cruel?

@@juliaevans2375 either the child lives without their mother by their side with siblings who aren't cared for OR the kid lives their life with their parents until they die

If youd watched the movie youd see its a exact copy basically down to the ignored brother

Same

@@zoeknap9777 Apparently they changed the ending in the movie

@@Ikajo One of the instances where the movie version was better than the book

Jupp

well its not a kid yet, its a fetus, theres no emotions or feelings yet but yeah, its fucked up

they only had the kid before that 2 for the other daughter

@@lorenapacora1526 that fitus as you call it ls a living breathing baby it gets food to make it grow and it breathes as well it has a heart beat and even pees and poops

It is hard to feel sorry for and her stubbornness could have killed both her and the baby too

you don't understand ......her daughter was dying miserably right in front of her .....she had no choice but to at least try something to save her + the baby in mother's body is just a fetus , it has no feelings until its born into the world its just a part of mother's flesh .....simply a parasite living in mothers body ..... But of course after its born and knows the purpose of its existence its gonna be a cruel story

I personally would not mind. I mean it's not like they're gonna throw me out after they harvest my bone marrow. In fact I would be grateful because if my sibling did not exist, I probably would not either.l

@@CA-bw9vw they didn’t want you though they wanted your organs and marrow you were just an item to them not a child they loved their daughter and even their son more than you because at least the son was wanted as a child

@Chatty Catty yeah it probably happens a lot more than I do think and what’s worse is that the people doing it probably think their heroes for saving their child no your a monster who just “Never let me go’d” your baby

@@prime1918 Actually the son was ment to be the one they used for the organs and bone marrow but he wasn't a match to the girl. It's quite sad :(

@@jaydenrae8936I mean I don’t think it was that I think they had him before the cancer and just realised that he wasn’t a match the mother tried before this baby already and it was a miscarriage

Yep

She’s not that little

Yeah it's absolutely sick and disgusting.

@@SjofnBM1989 Yeah. I bet from that child's perspective, they are feeling like "my parents only had me so I could save their other child and don't care that I am suffering as well."

It’s there 3rd child

@@harleengill9606 only cause the other one wasn’t a match

@@esmegrant8573 no because they had there son before so they started trying for another child because he wasn’t a match but he was already born before all this

Bone marrow transplant probably...you dont lose organs. You are remaking bone marrow indefinetely... There is no assurance that the newborn would even be a match or may end up also having the disease. Better they could have a surrogate knowing she has cardiomyopathy

Its fluid from their spine the person will produce more and be healthy i dont understand why its wrong

@@julieprinsloo2232 you heard them say in the video maybe a kidney and some livet stuff that can have potential health risks one day and besides knowing your born for the sole purpose of being a donor is fucked up it's like you know your parents don't love you as much

@@straightuphating1013 Are children allowed to donate organs like this if the parents approve? That feels like it should be illegal... Like no living child should be allowed to donate organs (They aren't allowed to donate blood right? Why organs or marrow?), let alone a bloody baby. Is it genuinely legal to do that??

True how the mother is disgusting for bringing children into the world just to save her first child. However, if I grew up knowing that I saved my siblings life by simply just existing I'd feel like a hero. the fact that one human can save another humans life through blood and organ donation is insane and amazing. But totally think the mother is crazy for just thinking of one person and neglecting the rest of the family like that

Tbf in an emergency situation you don't really have time to figure out alternate care for your kids

@@Charlie-yv3ib true but at least have them wearing a mask 🤦🏼‍♀️

@@megsmith6758 Masks are used so that people who are sick won't transmit the infection. So it would be useless for the kid to wear a mask. Use your logic.

Charlie rather her not see her mum?

@@equestrian.life. Even before the pandemic, cancer patients would wear masks, it gives a little bit of protection over nothing.

The book was also quite sad, it had a different ending to the movie

@@BlastFromThePastTheGoodOldDays the book DESTROYED me. The film wasn’t as good in my opinion

Omg i had the same thought

I also read an article that said the book was better. I unfortunately can’t find the book in any of my local bookstores and I can’t buy it on amazon because I live on the other side of the world and shipping would be too expensive. I’ll try and read the book if I see it on our bookstores tho!!♡

I had to watch it in class we where all crying lmao

I doubt they would be able to extract more than a tiny drop. If I heard correctly, she was in her fifth month, so the baby would have been severely underdeveloped. And seeing as it is stage four leukemia, it would have been a drop on hot stone.

If the mother had managed to go full term, and the baby still didn’t survive I think the last option would have been the blood from the umbilical cord. I had a live donor who was a male 36 when I had my BMT at 17 however I know some people who have had their cells come from donated umbilical cords. If this was a real life case though, I don’t think the cord would have been developed enough either.

Also in terms of the guilt, survivors guilt hits every cancer patient. We don’t take the sacrifices of others very lightly. When I had my transplant I had a few friends have theirs around the same time however over time they began to relapse and the fact that I’m still cancer free (although the side effects are crippling me) I can’t help but feel immense guilt that mine worked and theirs didn’t. I’d also refrain from the idea of using “organ farm”. It causes fear mongering and terminology like that is exactly why so many people are dying waiting for transplants and even blood transfusions since a lot of people like to make donation out to be painful or scary when I think it’s a beautiful thing.

I'm pretty sure they took thise drastic measure due to how the treatment aren't working properly with the daughter. She can't have another pregnancy. Finding and affording a surrogate is unlikely. This is such a terrible situation.

Yes, I’m glad that someone else knows about this movie, it’s terrible what the parents did to one daughter to save another daughter

@@siobhang6837 where can i watch?

all of it initially based on real life anissa ayala and her organ donor kid sister conceived specifically to be an organ donor

​@@khoannekrysllene (on stream)

whats echmo? sorry for asking haha

@@balls3443 It's a special kind of life support that does the function of the heart and lungs.

Clearly you are not a mother

She was helpless

Ok, what she is trying to say is that she felt bad about the baby because when its born the child would be stripped away of there organs just for them to save thier sick child , And while the girl gets all the mothers attention the baby was just used as a cure .

Yeah I feel the same way as you do. Plus the mom could of died. Emagine how heart brocken her famaly would be SMH

Do your parents treat you equally to your sister? Is your sister well now? Thank you for educating us on this xx

@@sunnybunny6275honestly, not really but I don’t think it was their fault completely. My sister has a rare illness meaning she will die one day of her illness and it’s likely I’ll have to donate something to keep her alive longer. The first few years of my life, she was so sick my parents couldn’t take care of me so I was passed between family members. They even had a time table, Monday to Thursday night my grandparents house and Thursday to Monday night my aunts house. I don’t think they ever had a chance to bond with me while I was young so it kind of put a strain on the relationship early on and by the time they did start taking care of me, my little sister was born. I was seen more as a helper in the household, someone to help with my sisters illness and to take care of my little sister. Honestly just like in the clip with what the girl said about her brother being ignored, it’s kind of like that, not just with me but with others. I know other saviour siblings, I was a part of a club as a kid where we would meet up every year in the summer, it was a way for us to deal with who we are and meet others so we didn’t feel alone, I don’t know who set it up. As kids we felt like we were special in a way, because we were born with a purpose while most people are born accidents but as we got older, learned more about what we are and what we were born for, it became more like a burden. The other people I know were rather ignored because they had a sick sibling or treated special because of what they did but that also affected the relationship as they didn’t want their whole existence to be about something none of us had a choice in. I think relationships between parents and saviour siblings is ultimately down to why age to tell them. I was raised knowing it, it was passed in conversation like asking how are you, but I know others who weren’t told until they were older and they became mad because there whole existence was a lie. Some parent choose not to tell their kids, as long as they’re sure the older kid won’t get sick again, and sometimes I think that’s the best decision so the saviour sibling doesn’t have to grow up believing they’re just an organ bank on standby. Other saviour siblings might have different views but that’s just what i see and hear. With any kids born into a family with a sibling with a disability, I don’t think there’s any equality as that sibling needs more attention. Parents try but ignoring their other children commonly happens.

How do you feel knowing you’re a saviour sibling? Does it affect your view on life?

When you found this out how did it make you feel? Honestly I'm proud of you for being able to talk about something like this!

Do you feel like you have a choice when the time comes for you to donate?

Yes, cord blood transplants are routinely performed. Most often the cord blood is years old.

According to google you can still harvest from the dead five days after death 😳😳

@@ynamanzano2075 oh god- so this was just- pointless?

I hope you never have to be in a situation, her first born daughter is deadly sick.

they dont harvest all the organs, it is bone marrow donation , the baby will live

The baby won't die after donating its bone marrow. No doctor would hurt a healthy child to save their relative. Bone marrow donation involves using syringes to take some of the donor's marrow, it is basically like a more invasive blood donation

@@vi6126 except stage 4 leukemia metastasizes. They'd need parts of the babies organs, so much so its basically dead anyways.

Dude spoilers on that last bit 😂

I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling this way! Like pregnant mothers don't really have the bond with thei child physically, it's moreso the child's potential and their idea of what the child's gonna be.. but once that child is grown and you know them and their personality, you know their face and their mannerisms, it's a whole different thing!

Money I'd imagine that that after year's of paying for cancer treatment you've got nothing left really

Few surrogates would be willing to carry a child meant as spare parts.

@@melissaharris3389 but people can lie. If they are willing to do what they plan to do then lying would be a no-brainer to them. Money is a better explanation I think

And you can tell that you are totally right because when she knew the baby did not make it she said to her daughter "I am sorry I failed you". She already did not see this baby as her child but some kind of spare part giver. (I did not watch further so i could be wrong)

shes too overhated. I agree she takes a lot of cases too far but in the end she genuinely cares about her patients

*Rhodes

Oof

The chance of finding a perfect match is a slim to almost nothing chance