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There is a mantra coming from the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles to the youth, young adults, and education. It consists of 3 messages:
1) President Nelson's Identity Hierarchy
2) Keeping The Two Greatest Commandments in proper order
3) President Kimball's "Second Century" BYU Address
Here, President Oaks covers numbers 1 and 2.
He talks of the "ideologies" and "fashions" of academia and how BYU may need to "break with the educational establishment" as taught by President Spencer W. Kimball.
President Oaks' Address- • Going Forward in the S...
President Kimball's Second Century Address - • The Second Century of ...
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@lindahawke7953 Год назад

Matthew 24:24 stating "if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect" has always scared me. We must be careful considering whom we should follow. This is the first Cwic video I've seen; the message is so obvious and yet I'd never thought of it quite like this. I'm reminded of Christ's parables, about which he said "who hath ears to hear, let him hear" (Matt. 9-15). I want to stick close to the prophet and apostles!

@jasonschlierman412 Год назад

I watched both the Elder Christofferson talk and the President Oaks talks at BYU recently and was excited! This was exactly what I was waiting for. They know what’s going on, that is VERY clear. In about a year, three members of the Quorum of the 12 and First Presidency have commented on the secular invasion of BYU. I just hope their words touch the right hearts.

@academyofchampions1 Год назад

Personally, I hope they become informed of any professors, clubs, movements, etc within BYU that are out of step with the doctrine and speak to them, as in, tell them to get in line, or to find another university to corrupt.

@mysikind8076 Год назад

I've been worried about this for a while now, then I found President Kimballs talk again and I saw already then there was concern at what was happening. Elder Holland just affirmed for me that the Lord is aware and so are the Brethren. It definitely soothed my soul. I found this Channel at about the time I listened to President Kimballs again. Then Elder Hollands talk when I was extremely concerned. It's become one of my favourite channels, knowing others are out there holding the standard up. ❤️. Looking forward to General Conference.

@justbob2133 Год назад

President Oakes is great! I laughed out loud when he emphasized how inspired Elder Holland's talk was to the BYU faculty... It's awesome to see the Brethren publicly and unapologetically show strong support for each other. It made me laugh, because I know President Oakes has a wonderful sense of humor, and he had to know that the "religion of academia" folks would be gnashing their teeth at the idea that Elder Holland is inspired. Greg, thanks for posting this, along with the links to President Kimball's and President Oakes entire talks. You're a good man!

@mysikind8076 Год назад

@@jamescrane6583 Says you... So you are one of the Apostles now? 🤔 Go study The New Testament again and see what Christ and the Apostles had to say to people, especially Paul. Or maybe go through the Old Testament lessons again. You're the one that's wrong.

@1klakak Год назад

@@jamescrane6583 nice rebuttal. Next time, please explain why you hold a certain position.

@wendyfoster5579 Год назад

The last few minutes was the key. Love your neighbor as God loves them. It doesn’t mean condone it means love them as God. Thanks for this!!

@anthonyjames4478 Год назад

The problem across the board in resisting or fighting against the false teachings of the world is when you use the jargon, the phraseology, the expressions by which these falsehoods are promoted, you in fact lend support to the falsehoods. This is akin to playing on the devil's playground and hoping for different results. If God commands by the power of His word, then how important is it to understand the absolute power of language and its power to influence and sustain.

@curtiste3235 Год назад

Excellent insight.

@selbyhill4905 Год назад

So, I wholeheartedly, completely agree with Oaks and Holland and all the brethren. What I think is going on though, is that the people who don’t agree are people my age (18-25ish) and these people are literally being brainwashed by society and the media. They’re still church members but they use their membership as an excuse to be able to stay at the school and still disagree with basically all of the policies. Their goal is to change that because “it doesn’t fit the world now”. Instead of leaving the school and finding a different school that fits their ideology and their beliefs, they choose to stay at BYU and “suffer” (according to them) through the homophobia and racism that’s apparently so abundant there. NO ONE is making them go to BYU (maybe their parents are but they are 18+ and they can make their own decisions now). I get that older people want simple solutions, but the issue isn’t just with the school. The issue starts at home with the kids and their habits online with social media and with the people that they associate with. It shapes how they think and feel and then they go to this college and they are told something else and it doesn’t work for them. I don’t even think a majority of the kids who disagree with the brethren are even attending the speeches they give unless it’s to tear it apart. It’s frustrating to see that when you just want to tell them to leave if they hate the school so much because it’s refreshing to have schools that teach using gospel standards and foundations.

@ozzypawsborneprinceofbarkness Год назад

Until I see church leadership actually clean house at BYU I will remain unimpressed. Talking at these people will have no effect other than to galvanize their resolve. Action is the only solution

@brentgerrard8331 Год назад

Well done! Love President Oaks. Some house cleaning needs to begin among the BYU faculty.

@sarahpeacock9686 Год назад

Long overdue!

@markstimson983 Год назад

Very much appreciate your knowledge and insights into this topic. I struggle to understand why we are having such a difficulty with this in the church. We are reversing course in our flirtation with this ideology and how it was allowed to become so prevalent not only at BYU, but within the church itself. Especially since we’ve had the Family Proclamation for so long. The church just supported the LGBTQ law in Arizona that defines gender completely contrary to our doctrine as it forbids professionals with helping children deal with gender dysphoria (they call it conversion therapy) and requires professionals to assist in transition of gender. Chloe Coles gives a poignant testimony of how these laws prevented her therapist from helping her cope with her youthful gender dysphoria while other therapists, following the law, persuaded her parents that unless she was transitioned, she would commit suicide. Now she has overcome her youthful dysphoria and finds herself with a mutilated body with no breasts to nurse a baby and puberty blockers that put her very ability to conceive at serious jeopardy. I honestly do not understand why we find it so difficult in the church to just stand unequivocally for the truth contained in the Family Proclamation.

@onfire3433 Год назад

When you say the church do you mean it in general or a ward in Arizona or a few members of the church?

@markstimson983 Год назад

@@onfire3433 Yes, to clarify. When I say church, I primarily mean the church’s priesthood leadership who hired the many radical professors who, for years, openly pushed this ideology at BYU without any ramifications. This was not done in secret nor without the knowledge and tacit approval of the priesthood leadership at BYU. That acceptance and normalization of everything LGBTQ has consequently made its way into the general membership of the church. I was recently verbally accosted in my local ward here in Utah literally before I could get out of the door in part because of my statement in priesthood that there are only two genders. Many members are being persuaded that the Family Proclamation is not doctrine nor revelation but a relic that needs to be discarded. It is my view that our messaging from the church’s leadership has not been clear nor unequivocal as instanced by the support given to the Arizona LGBTQ law. A law that goes completely against our doctrine while it promotes and guarantees the mutilation of children’s bodies in the name of finding common ground.

@kdeltatube Год назад

Endorsing that Arizona bill was sad, to me it was virtue signaling while not having knowledge of the political agenda of this ABC movement that has been co-opted by radicals with no regard for individual rights, they would pit groups over us and cause contention and balkinizing while undermining families and culture. Ignorance is not bliss.

@lindamartinez7006 Год назад

Our church leaders meaning residency does not condone child transition changes. It never has and it never ever will. Where do you get that from?

@RebeccaGroendyke Год назад

Do you understand exactly what law was passed and what it meant? I am not sure I understood it the same way you did. I think our leaders have made it very clear to focus on our TRUE IDENTITY and to teach that to our children. The absolute truth. I am a child of God. I am a Son (male) or Daughter (female) of the Covenant. I am a Disciple of Christ. Why would we not want every child know their true and sacred identity.

@ruckin3 Год назад

"One of the pet words of this age is tolerance. It is a good word, but we have tried to stretch it over too great an area. We have applied it, too often, where it does not belong. The word tolerant means liberal and broad-minded. In one sense, it implies the compromise of one’s convictions, a yielding of ground upon important issues. We have become tolerant about divorce, the use of alcohol, delinquency, wickedness in high places, immorality, crime and godlessness. We have been sapped of conviction, drained of our beliefs, and we are bereft of our faith." -Billy Graham 2012

@annecarroll3429 Год назад

amen

@mca4093 Год назад

Time for certain staff and educators to find other employement that is better suited to their worldview.

@cameronreed1411 Год назад

Studying the Book of Mormon and people like Korihor and Nehor will help us see through the wolves in sheep's clothing and the false ideologies and philosophies of men mingled with scripture when it enters into the Church. Staying close to and knowing the Savior and His doctrine and principles and our covenants will help us weed out the falsehoods besetting culture and the church.

@MercurialMaven Год назад

I believe you can't properly love your neighbor unless you love God first. If you love God first, then your love for your neighbor will cause you to influence them to love God because you believe it is in their best interest. If you don't love God, then your love for others can be misguided or misplaced, and actually harm them! I also believe Jesus gave a higher law before his crucifixion. He said: "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you." That is not quite the same as loving others as yourself. I see it as a call to a higher form of love.

@johnterry8958 Год назад

Great presentation. I hope those at BYU as well as others in the Church who are resistant to these messages from the Church leaders will repent, and not remain like those described in 2 Nephi 9:28 "... When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not. And they shall perish."

@danielroehm2822 Год назад

Thanks for the context, my wife and I watched this and didn't understand some of it. Praise the Lord that we are addressing these false teachings coming from the great and spacious building.

@markockey7356 Год назад

While I was listening to this, especially the part at about 14:26 where you mentioned the fact that the scriptures are becoming the target of these philosophies… one word came to my mind repeatedly: “Trifle”. We are warned in D&C to not trifle with sacred things, or in other words we should take sacred things seriously and not attempt to trivialize them.

@andrewdurfee3896 Год назад

@@sistermarch660 hold the things of God in higher regard and make an effort to listen to the Apostles and Prophets.

@mysikind8076 Год назад

Great reminder.

@mysikind8076 Год назад

@@andrewdurfee3896 💯👍

@wendyhaws4540 Год назад

It seems weird but with the strange and incredulous beliefs that so many of the pseudo intellectual professors buy into, and I know a lot of them, they strike me as some of the least intelligent people on the planet. A four year old seems so much more intelligent when you're talking about truths, like gender studies, CRT teachings, social justice, etc. With some of the things these people are trying to get us to believe, I have very little respect for mostly those "intellectuals" in the social fields. They are indoctrinated with idiocy and trying to pass it on. I am so glad these issues are finally being addressed. I hope it's not too little too late. Can't the professors that teach these evil beliefs be let go? I don't understand why if this is a religious institution we are paying those that are trying to promote so much evil and ruin so many young people. President Kimball was such an awesome prophet. I'm glad they referred to his prophesies.

@johnpont1831 Год назад

@@sistermarch660 This is a hard truth to accept, but is pervasive in almost all science disciplines - IT is a willful, rejection of new information or evidences that contradict previously held "truths"/ theories. Science is supposed to update our knowledge with newly discovered information. But sadly, other priorities are at play. Look at the effect of government funding for research and academic TENURE have on placing money/ career/ ego / and power ahead of all else. In public school it is the school board that determines what will be taught - have we not as a nation had recent experience with that? In science - new and indisputable information/evidences will be discarded and rejected when they do not conform to the accepted and sanctioned orthodoxy- and for a researcher to persist in publishing that new information will result in being hounded out of the respective professional institutions and stripped of credibility. In other words , toe the line, don't rock the boat - too many careers hang in the balance.

@annecarroll3429 Год назад

after the tithing from members pays these so called professors

@wendyhaws4540 Год назад

@@annecarroll3429 Yeah, I would definitely prefer my tithing go to more worthy things, like building wells for those who need clean water, and helping those in distress, which it does as well. Paying anything to these liberal indoctrinators is not a good use of tithing money at all.

@elizabethwutzke9040 Год назад

Thank you again, and keep spreading the truth brother Greg. We Thank the true and living God for our dear prophet, president Nelson! Let's all hang on to our testimonies of the doctrine of Christ, throughout these last troubled days ahead...

@bradhardisty1652 Год назад

Great commentary and review of what is going on. Pres. Kimball's talk now seems like Prophecy.

@germanslice Год назад

If the professors don't uphold the principles of the gospel and don't withdrawl these philosphies then the latter-day saints will have to withdrawl their kids out from the schools and home teach. Home education learning will have to come in.

@mysikind8076 Год назад

I love that talk by President Kimball. It's as if he is still here. That's a Prophet. ❤️

@dardale9050 Год назад

Thanks for another thoughtful discussion about hidden truths in apostolic addresses that most of us miss. I always wondered just how the Constitution would be hanging by a thread.just like a sock becomes less protective against a sharp toenail. Now I see that it is happening with one broken thread at a time. We need less law makers and more sock darners in our day.

@justanothergirl2333 Год назад

Great episode! All your episodes are great and this one has to be at the top. I’ve lost a daughter to the religion of academia. We can’t even get a family picture because this divisive ideology has caused such a rift among my 4 other kids and her. I’m hoping someday those differences will be worked through and we can be made whole as a family once again. 🙏

@CwicShow Год назад

So sorry to hear. It is the ideology and the collective identity that cause the division. It is happening all too often.

@Hummingbird1968 Год назад

So, I work with several parts of the Church administration in SLC (I'm in the midwest) every day. I see so much of that part of church steeped in extreme liberal philosophy. I'm not sure why it still surprises me, but it does. I often wonder what my takeaway should be when I clearly see worldly philosophy and academic religious fervor determining policy and direction in so many ways. I don't think most people know how to sort that out from religious decisions anymore when it comes to the church. I also tend to feel that it is the top administrative positions that hold much of the responsibility for allowing the politicization of the church and its owned entities. I don't understand why they let things like the "WOKE-ING" of BYU happen to being with. There's a dozen things like this I don't understand. Where is the problem starting? Find that and cut it off. Seems pretty simple.

@sarahpeacock9686 Год назад

My brother and sister in law both worked at the Church office building in SLC decades ago...they both stated it took a STRONG testimony to be able to do so. That was then; I can't imagine how bad it is now.

@johnpont1831 Год назад

@@sarahpeacock9686 😳😳😯Wow, I'm here in the Left Coast " missionary field" (anywhere outside of Idaho/Arizona/Utah ). I had no idea so many members are so confused to embraced this perverse ideology - we have family in Virginia where their Bishop and his wife affirmed homosexuality - SHE with a social media avatar rainbow "Love is Love" flag and HE vehemently justified her to several upset church members. Also the ward YA Pres allows her teen daughter to come to church in a mans suit and tie. Both instances my wife and I thought this was just a one-off - apparently not. My grandchildren are confused by this - imagine that.

@sarahpeacock9686 Год назад

@@johnpont1831 That's troubling indeed. My own bishop (here in Utah) had a rainbow flag up during June. (He has a gay brother who I guess he feels flying the flag supports in love) Well truth be known I have a gay son whom I adore. But I don't feel the need to fly a colorful flag to show him I love him. To me it just shows a support for the lifestyle. Its everywhere. Nowhere is safe from the grasp of Satan.

@johnpont1831 Год назад

@@sarahpeacock9686 My wife and I fully embrace our church members who struggle with same sex attraction. We have long stood for love the sinner, hate the sin - or love the child of God, hate the practice. Elder Christoffersen's brother struggles with this & has written about his family's love toward him and his companion, and is now an endowed , covenant keeping member. We love this. The message needs to be understood that those with same sex struggles do have a choice and the power to be chaste, and that placing God first in our lives with power that we ALL have to be observant covenant keeping members is real. All of God's children need to follow his commandments, including those with same sex attraction - it is entirely doable- and while I cannot know the hurt, Jesus Christ does, and yes it is a cross they can bear. Sarah, have you seen Greg's (Qwic Media) interview with Skyler Sorenson, a covenant keeping gay Latter Day Saint? He speaks to the negative response from gay community he got when he tweeted how his CHOSEN lifestyle makes him happy. it is wonderful to see the faith of this young husband and father. Blessings to you and your family

@mruss31415 Год назад

Love your stuff. It's disappointing how much of the prominent podcasts and videos made by active members are tainted by some of these ideologies and politics. What a stench. I appreciate your views and thoughts.

@theephraimite Год назад

The situation at BYU is depressing. I heard a bit of that disease has made it to BYU here in Hawaii. Monday ngt - September 26, 2022.

@libertylady208 Год назад

Greg, you knocked it out of the park again.

@nancyboynton6880 Год назад

Excellently expressed. We need more like you. Keep up the good work.

@CwicShow Год назад

Thank you, I will

@carriegodfrey4806 Год назад

If the leadership of the church can see what is happening why are these professors allowed to remain? Especially when they are being supported by church funds.

@CwicShow Год назад

The professors aren't the problem. If they left, they would simply be replaced by others. There needs to be more of separation from the rest of academia. This is happening on the back end. Will it be enough? I don't know. But there is hope.

@greggweber9967 Год назад

After Sunday School I was starting to leave when I saw three people speaking and one was a teacher who I wanted to ask a question of. They were talking about how the church was becoming more (restrictive or something I forgot). I asked about the elementary school, if it was getting more Woke. Fortunately I had to leave which I did before I got stung by the approaching hornets. IMHO it's not just in the schools.

@CwicShow Год назад

Definitely not just in the schools. It's everywhere, including in the Church.

@chadluke5454 Год назад

Curious. It seems to me that the Church has become much more lenient in the past decade or so. You do not hear conference talks like those given by President Kimball and others from 40 years ago or so. I see students at Church schools getting away with far more today than back in the 70s and 80s. Just my opinion, based on my own experiences.

@SummerAdamsdotcom Год назад

There are MANY woke in the 70. 😞

@johnpont1831 Год назад

President Nelson is at the head of the Board of Trustees, and my very simplistic understanding is the Board holds final authority on the the curriculum and the acquisition/ approval/ hiring/ dismissal of - administrators and staff, including professors at BYU. Forgive my being obtuse, but it seems there is much that that can be done to quell the marxist tsunami and its companion idiocy. Why isn't this happening?

@CwicShow Год назад

Some things behind the scenes are happening. they know there is a problem. But they may not know the extent of the problem.

@johnpont1831 Год назад

Thank you Greg, we love our church leaders especially the First Presidency.Might this lack of awareness be a case of too many insular layers around them? Just wondering how they can not know the extent- thank you, my wife and olol have found your examinations of issues threatening our faith, and all Christians an informative and meaningful part of our day

@4ydnarx Год назад

@@CwicShow How can they NOT know by this point? If they are they are far to insulated from the members of the church.

@amynazza Год назад

"The bible as literature" was my senior capstone class at BYU in 2003. Studying the scriptures from a standpoint of academic scrutiny has been around for decades.

@CwicShow Год назад

Yes, but it is now being "deconstructed" past a tipping point.

@amynazza Год назад

@@CwicShow I think the tipping point was there when I was, but the professors in charge of my class were at the tail-end of their tenured careers; they knew how to walk up to the edge, acknowledge it’s existence, and backed away using references from apostles and prophets specific to that scriptural text. They did that repeatedly throughout the course. Without the faith-based lens it is very easy to rationalize away the scriptures in the name of science.

@mysikind8076 Год назад

Food for thought as always.

@stephengriffin4612 Год назад

Three cheers for President Oaks!

@confusedwhynot Год назад

Philosophies of men mingled with scripture.

@t.o.g.sakafay2868 Год назад

Thank You, Cwic Media Its always a pleasure.

@rconger384 Год назад

It has gone on too long and rotted at the core of the institution in irrecoverable ways. In my opinion, the only defensible position is to turn BYU-x unto a great trade school open only to LDS members from the third-world countries. The residue of LDS students raised in North America can affiliate with Institute of Religion enrolling at many Universities across North America in their quest for "higher education." But BYU as we knew it is *over* and we must retreat from error by restoring our institution to a position of truth.

@bill97656 Год назад

Thx

@CwicShow Год назад

No problem

@John-tu2wo Год назад

Soon we will support streets without stop lights in the name of "free agency" ¿¿¿

@jmjm4860 Год назад

Byu is losing its uniqueness, what is the plan to restore it and who will do it? I dont think there is a plan... I expect more of the same. I just learned about another member I know who lost her faith at byu Hawaii. Be aware parents.

@CwicShow Год назад

All need to definitely be aware. I can tell you that there is a plan. It is a work in progress.

@chadluke5454 Год назад

I hear ya. BYU is very different today. I am glad that my BYU experience was back in the late 70s and early 80s.

@rogermcbadlad2812 Год назад

@@chadluke5454 All of the apartments in Provo are still original from the 70s and 80s but with 2020s pricing. Lol😅

@Paul-os5cz Год назад

Yes, it is a hard thing to break away from academia. However when it becomes necessary it is a must in order to maintain or preserve the divinely unique "mission" of BYU. Education may include teaching ABOUT diverse world beliefs and ideas, but once you teach TO EMBRACE diverse world beliefs and ideas i

@Paul-os5cz Год назад

Teaching TO EMBRACE is INDOCTRINATION. Leave that and it's professors to the world's universities.

@CwicShow Год назад

Well said!

@RebeccaGroendyke Год назад

To be learned is good if we hearken to the counsel of God. 2 Timothy 3:1-7 is in full swing right now… especially verse 7 for this discussion.

@joybischoff9558 Год назад

You talk of the philosophies of men and I can't help shake my head in confusion. How could any temple going radicalized member not hear those words without seeing their actions in that light?

@tomasina10 Год назад

I know plenty . They have convinced themselves that they are “truly loving “ and are doing what the apostles would do if they had “all the facts “ . It is a belief that tolerance is the highest value possible, higher than obeying ( thus loving God ) I have watched it and it many times leads to becoming inactive at some point .

@nwkitesurfer Год назад

Is there hope?

@CwicShow Год назад

It's going to be very difficult. But yes.

@John-tu2wo Год назад

Love all your videos!!

@Empisee Год назад

Consider what happens when someone loves people more than he loves God. This individual would look upon the human condition and begin, with his big bleeding heart, to assume that he cares more about these unfortunates than does their apathetic, capricious Creator with His restrictive and outmoded principles. Our test subject begins to feel like he could do a better job of seeing to their needs than the all-wise Father of the human race. "If only I could compel others to care as much as I do!," he thinks to himself. "If only I could, by the force of sheer will, impose my sense of fairness upon the world!" And before you know it, this one who puts God and His eternal commandments second to his own compassion is following the well-worn path to perdition.

@martelhermann5202 Год назад

Way behind the curve and they didn't have to be, unless it's taken this long, for the Lord to inspire these messages.

@toddnielsen4598 Год назад

Just a sincere thank you, great insight and very helpful.

@davidh6513 Год назад

I don't like the term "ally" when it comes to helping members of so-called "marginalized groups". First, if you are an ally that implies there are enemies. So right away that intensifies division and contention. Second, we should treat people as individuals and families not as stereotyped group members. In the end, simple friendship between individuals and families is what will bring the healing we need.

@billhightower7754 Год назад

Love others as thyself. One of the greatest problems today is we don’t love ourselves. My feeling is that if we love ourselves, we will cherish our own lives and would not be taking our own lives.

@maudebeckman1197 Год назад

On the other hand, some love themselves too much and forget that loving others is part of the equation… When there is too much focus on being our authentic selves, there’s a good chance we’ll forget that the purpose of this life is to become our best selves through the atonement of Jesus Christ. It’s a hard balance to strike and one that seems to be even more of a rarity these days.

@jonesy2111 Год назад

1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. Last I checked we don't base our beliefs on the controlled/social engineering and shifting sands of achedemia we base our beliefs on the authority of God.

@thelefthandedshooter5760 Год назад

My daughter is about to leave on her mission and then attend BYU starting in 2024…..I am praying the doctrines of academia will be subservient to the doctrines of the church by then.

@wufflerdance9481 Год назад

just tell her not to go....im losing in laws and mission companions there and at byuh and byui...all becoming liberals ans embracinf lgbt values and cant be their old selves...its not worth losing the friend and family you have...their chance of surviving unscathed is not good at all

@memorex202 Год назад

My brother who was a return missionary went to BYU. He came back an atheist.

@johnpont1831 Год назад

@@wufflerdance9481 AMEN

@rogermcbadlad2812 Год назад

I’m in a religion class at BYU with lots of freshman. The girls will raise their hands and comment on how, “it’s so hard that men have the priesthood and I don’t, but my testimony is still intact…” kind of stuff. I’m old for BYU standards, I took my time so I’m about to turn 27 and when I hear this stuff, it makes me feel even older. Like I grew up in a different world than my peers.

@FromG2eminor Год назад

I was hoping you would cover this. I did watch it and loved it.

@greggweber9967 Год назад

Is this the present rake to separate the wheat from the tares? I think that it's just one of many.

@chadluke5454 Год назад

I have worked in the university setting nearly all my life, and I have NEVER been impressed with "academia"...............NEVER.

@jaredmcsweeney4557 Год назад

Mic drop!!!! Love it! Thanks

@runnergrandma9171 Год назад

So so good!!! Thanks!

@CwicShow Год назад

You're so welcome!

@loisleonard9436 Год назад

Excellent report😊

@zon3665 Год назад

"Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees."

@jimwinebrenner620 Год назад

People need also to remember that while we may be required to tolerate confusion and outright stupidity at times, Father will not, cannot tolerate even the slightest degree of sin, including the sins of confusion and stupidity. The left today is trying to imply that even God Himself will tolerate, and that those who represent Him should tolerate the confusion and stupidity. That is simply not true.

@KnuttyEntertainment Год назад

Just started attending BYU-I, pretty great here so far. Seems the critical theory infiltrating Provo hasn’t made it here.

@bradhardisty1652 Год назад

My three nieces went there..I think BYU I is the experience.that BYU was 25.plus years ago.

@CwicShow Год назад

It's there, but you are in your first year. You will see it in your Humanities classes at a minimum. Not as bad as Provo or Hawaii though.

@onfire3433 Год назад

@@CwicShow A friends daughter from California went to BYU Provo and in her first semester has been indoctrinated. she doesn’t want to go back to BYU but now instead of being a conservative she defense liberals among other things that are now wrong with her way of thinking.

@sarahpeacock9686 Год назад

My son is getting his education through BYU-I via pathways. (He's in his 2nd year) I can see how it has affected/influenced him. Thankfully he still listens to his momma to "be careful" about what he believes.

@KnuttyEntertainment Год назад

That’s good.

@naofumi5616 Год назад

I've seen people condemn the church leadership for, in their words, "Being in bed with CRT". They assume so because of how they believe the Prophet and Apostles are "not doing anything" when it comes to CRT and such being accepted in the church. There was one person I told how the church leadership is doing something, just not the way he would prefer. I disagreed with him on how we need to go about it and how the leadership may be praying for the right inspiration to go about how to talk about it. In the end, he accused me of being satan's lawyer. I doubt he took my suggestion to seek further answers in prayer. He seemed really contentious throughout the entire conversation. It's hard to stay calm when talking to people like him.

@richardlawrencedunbar6143 Год назад

Enjoyed and agree

@margarettrusty6101 Год назад

Why can I only see 4 comments?

@rconger384 Год назад

I saw more when I switched to "newest first."

@CwicShow Год назад

Many are asking a similar question.

@justjamie7577 Год назад

Marx believed that people shouldn't have to work to feed and care for theirselves and that there shoulder not be any hierarchy or authority of any kind. This completely contradicts church teachings.

@dougbarrett7973 Год назад

Source for this? Ever read Marx?

@justjamie7577 Год назад

@@dougbarrett7973 James Lindsay. He's on RU-vid and is an expert in CRT and Marxism. Sorry I can't tell you which episode that came from

@blizzard2oo Год назад

First Presidency needs no help from Ibrahim Kinde et al.

@jennyomalley9212 Год назад

Excellent

@tinacarvalhoBodyandHealth Год назад

Prayer and action

@williamturner6192 Год назад

Thank you so much!

@CwicShow Год назад

You're welcome!

@josephdouglas9685 Год назад

I come from a country NZ where our right wing would probably be considered more left wing than your Bernie Sanders. What I am finding hard to understand is why so much is termed in - left wing bad and right wing good? I thought the Gospel was about finding the good in all peoples, cultures and politics. I really think it is so important to seek understanding; and that really takes listening. I admit I do not fully understand some of the terminology expressed in some of the comments, for example Woke? What is wrong with "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination" or "aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues"; it must be an American thing? Is this another left and right thing? Also, I can not understand how a person can learn to love God without first learning to love our fellow man? So, the first great commandment can not possibly be achieved without the second as a stepping stone. So if there was an order, it would be the last then the first - however, that is just a thought.

@matthewglosenger3180 Год назад

President Oaks did an incredibly great job on this as he made several references to Elder Hollands talk from a year ago as well. But to the conversation on identity, one cannot ignore personal value. The idea of there being 2 commandments is disheartening because it ignores the law of relationships that we have known and understood for generations. You cannot love someone else until you love yourself. There is no second commandment here. It’s a clarifying point that tells you how to get to the first great commandment. The Lord states “the second is LIKE UNTO IT”, meaning it’s the SAME thing. Guys, it’s not possible to love God without loving yourself first. In this conversation about identity, the first thing that dies is your personal self worth. It’s replaced with a victim mentality that claims God screwed up. That you were not meant to be who you are. And if God screwed up, it must be man’s job to fix the mistake. Again, we must find a way to “LOVE THEM” in a way that they can love themselves. Perhaps for the very first time.

@azureskylivingborg Год назад

So how old is all of this align with the folks that want to be identified as gay LDS if it’s good enough for BYU why isn’t good enough for the rest of the church? I think there needs to be a consistency across-the-board you can’t have labels of Babylon and labels of Christ.

@micmacc2014 Год назад

Talk is cheap. They ARE the board of directors.

@rconger24 Год назад

2:10 2:36

@UtahKent Год назад

Bingo. This is what John and Daniel were seeing and warning of. In these last days we would be facing threats from a combination of sources unlike anything the followers have ever seen. Your use of the word "hydra" from Greek mythology is an apt description of how those ancient prophets were trying describe the threat. We are in the days of Daniel 7's 4th beast and the beast John saw being riden by the mother of harlots. Hang on friends...

@jameskkeith Год назад

People do not love themselves! That's why it is so hard to love your neighbor. It's hard enough to just love God.

@blizzard2oo Год назад

John Dewey and Howard Zinn were two of the worst culprits preaching critical thinking.

@kirklandmeadows Год назад

In 1975 the church and the university was steeped in racism and homophobia, without going into details. Who were the people that brought the church, progressively to were it is today?

@CwicShow Год назад

You seem to be a single issue man Kirkland.

@kirklandmeadows Год назад

@@CwicShow my point is simply this,the church has moved forward because of the progressive leftist, woke people that you occasionally criticize

@kirklandmeadows Год назад

@@jaasynergy8 Why do you think the Prophets reverse the 2013 revelation : the ban on the baptism of children with gay parents in same sex relationship ?

@annecarroll3429 Год назад

@@kirklandmeadows do you believe in revelation? And do you expect the prophet to be perfect? I am sorry you are so stuck.