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This lady had been out for three years when a Jehovah's Witness saw on her Facebook these shocking things:
1. She attended and celebrated a birthday!
2. She has a non-JW (Their pejorative word, "worldly") boyfriend, the horror of it!
3. He gave her a Valentine and she celebrated a the vile pagan holiday of lovers.
And so that's when the junior-detective squad came at her with phone calls and unannounced visits. She dodged them and had nothing to say to them, a wise move on her pat. But the line managers for Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, Inc. and their so-called Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses bumped it up another notch! They did everything but stalk her and finally were successful in getting her on the phone using an unknown number. Once they had her on a conference call (To preserve their little two-witness rule and make sure this investigation of theirs was on the up-and-up) they began to pressure her to recant her faith and declare that she had left "The Twoof".
Find out what happened (although you probably already know) in this short email share that illustrates the Pharisaical nature of the small-minded puritanical cult that worship their Governing Body in place of Jesus along with their website/façade, JW.org.

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@suzannerenaud1480
@suzannerenaud1480 8 лет назад
Hi everyone who has been disfellowshipped from the JW religion. Getting disfellowshipped from that religions was a long heart breaking time but now that I've been in contact with Eric and others on JW.struggle is has helped me sooooooooooooooo much. I have lost my youngest daughter and my granddaughter but hope that will change some day. I've shared with Eric that one of my daughters was molested by an elder in Fiji where Geoffery Jackson was an elder in out congregation for quite a while. No comments on that right now but want to thank Eric and Mikey and Kim and Marc and Cora for all they've done to encourage me even though they didn't even know it. I live in Fiji and hope there is someone out there who feels the same way I do. Please Eric keep up your wonderful loving work to help others like myself. Your time is so precious and thank you with all my heart sharing it with ones like myself.
@WoWNimblybimbly
@WoWNimblybimbly 8 лет назад
Those JW's have nothing better to do than to circumvent themselves into other people's lives, the Elders are the worst at this and set the tone for others. Disgusting behavior of those who say they love you. She will find much more love, compassion, and empathy from those outside of the organization. It's amazing the less critical I became of myself and others after leaving. I believe I'm closer to God than I've ever been since born and raised in that organization. Those forgiven little, love little and that explains the Witnesses precisely. Welcome to your freedom sweetie! Free at last! :)
@gg4gb1914
@gg4gb1914 8 лет назад
+WoWNimblybimbly You sound like every EX-JW I have spoken too. This morning a brother from Ohio told me he has Never been happier in his Marriage since he left. WOW Something good is happening.. You see Eric! Keep blazing new trails my friend.
@WoWNimblybimbly
@WoWNimblybimbly 8 лет назад
+JWCRISIS Actually the first videos on RU-vid I watched was JWstruggle. The KH I was at last tried to make me feel like I was all alone in what issues I had with them. When I left I decided to go looking for others like me and found Eric's videos. I was really able to connect with their stories and felt that even though I stood alone I wasn't alone in what I stood for. Of course I went through my 5 stages of hurt before I could let go of most of my anger and learn to avoid my PTSD triggers, that's what happens when you've been lied to all your life. However, after letting go of all of that I learned to let other things go with it. That's where the happiness sets in. It's not that I'm not angry with the injustice of Watchtower, I am. But, I've learned to identify anger isn't hate and everyone has a right to be angry when there is injustice, I just don't let it consume me. Really learning who you are and your limitations is very important because as Witnesses it wasn't as if we spent much time on self reflection, it was mostly on criticism of ourselves and others. This helped me grow in my relationship with my two kids and in my marriage as well. So overall, the road may appear long and yes it's hard, but the objective can be reached, acceptance and happiness. It didn't take me as long to reach it, but I think my advantage was my basic understanding in psychology and setting a goal. Also, everyone has differing circumstances and so it might take longer for them to come to terms but they shouldn't beat themselves over it and be kind and patient with themselves. I honestly feel that when we learn to forgive ourselves we learn to forgive others, which gets us on track with the "Golden Rule". And that is a wonderful thing indeed. :)
@gg4gb1914
@gg4gb1914 8 лет назад
+WoWNimblybimbly WOW. Well said. Neil the Great Apostate wrote in my last video " look at how far we have advanced " After the initial stages there is a rapid growth we maybe do not see. Anger is part of that growth. And suddenly you reflect and look back and your impressed with yourself with how far you have advanced Thanks For the post. People need to hear these stories
@justaroundthecorner2883
@justaroundthecorner2883 8 лет назад
Dear Eric. your website was the first one I tuned into some time ago.I know it is subjective, but I think yours is the best. Your clear and concise and blessed with a comforting bed side manner. Your trenchant views are respected because you speak from experience, and care for the welfare of those like myself who have discovered the flip side of the org.The hard work and energy that you expend on behalf of others is generously appreciated as many of us still languish in confusion and disappointment. regards
@lovelight8180
@lovelight8180 8 лет назад
Hi!, My family and I avidly have watched your videos. Your videos are straight forward, logical, interesting and full of honest stories and truth on what JW's are experiencing. You've lived it! Listen, please don't start and stop, please continue putting up your great videos that's helping those of us that are still in. They are clarifying and illuminating and edifying when undergoing cognitive dissonance. This cognitive dissonance is tough! That fact that you have chosen to assist on this platform is helping in such a great way. I know you have lives, I know you are busy, we know its not easy. But every night we get on you tube, and for quite some time now we have been lamenting: "Yep, JW struggle hasn't posted yet." ;-( lol....But that's how we feel. You speak in a way we can feel and heavily relate to, due to similar intense watchtower indoctrination. So again, not to beat a dead horse, (but I'll nudge it)...lol.....Please don't do what so many you tubers on watchtower do. Start and stop and never continue to help in this great work. No doubt you are living your life and being happy as you've made clear in recent videos. Understandably, it isn't your job to bring us out, but the fact that you have embarked on this initiative to help us think and sharing your story is really exposing and showing watchtower for what they are doing. We need your continued additional videos and interviews...OMG, by far you always have the best and most informative and you ask the questions we want to hear. Thanks again....Again cognitive dissonance is a b****. The constant 2nd guessing: Will I die?, is this true what I am learning?, it sounds right but...but....., events in the world are rather daunting, things DO parallel the bible, the witnesses have it so sowed up! (it would seem)(arghhh).......Eric, please don't stop. Thank you.
@dolam
@dolam 8 лет назад
Great video Eric. I love the positivity. Thank you.
@gg4gb1914
@gg4gb1914 8 лет назад
I told the Elders go ahead make my day. I served them my Lawyers Letter saying if they try anything we will discuss this in court. They moved on until a future day
@JWStruggle
@JWStruggle 8 лет назад
+JWCRISIS Good for you, this is something that if more people did it just might make a big difference.
@newiis2c211
@newiis2c211 8 лет назад
+JWCRISIS Good 4 U ! The UK gov is ahead on legal stuff. Don't be surprised if the US gov acts; People have had enough.
@terryannrose4582
@terryannrose4582 8 лет назад
+NEW iis 2C I hope so. The JW's have gotten by for way too long in their hurtful, harmful policies. They are so arrogant and dictatorly in how they treat the flock. And that includes many elders I know, arrogant and obnoxious.
@Dancestudent08
@Dancestudent08 8 лет назад
Damn I wished I thought of that! I'm trying to make a profit out of my disfellowshipping the best thing I can do is write a book lol
@terryannrose4582
@terryannrose4582 8 лет назад
Curtis Jordan Great idea, go for it. I wish I knew what to do myself. The internet seems to be doing a good job in exposing the WT. Myself I am reading an arsenal of books. It helps me to know I'm not the only one who feels the way I do. I would like to see the government in the US do as they have done in Australia.
@kyletaoitness3217
@kyletaoitness3217 8 лет назад
Thaks for that brother, we need to build one anorher up!
@debragreen7668
@debragreen7668 8 лет назад
Please let the lady know there are many of us who wholeheartedly support her. When we found out the things Watchtower has hidden, we just walked completely away from them. They want you to play the game and meet with them or send a letter to them. We didn't play that game, we just did as God's word says: "GET OUT of HER!" When you meet with them (Judicial) or write a letter I think you are still letting them control you.
@newiis2c211
@newiis2c211 8 лет назад
Your free, and you will "Rise above" this. Hope you understand that you DON'T have to obey any of these JW rules. If you wish to phone your parents call them, the real law is on your side. Continue to show the love to your parents. You be that good person. Remember that real love will conquer hate, every time.
@gg4gb1914
@gg4gb1914 8 лет назад
1st .The new time card has email post. So instead of Subscriptions and books they have email shares. Send her our Greetings. and Thank HER for sharing. Everyone needs to tell their story. The more people speak the sooner WTBTS will pay
@1955annemarie
@1955annemarie 6 лет назад
Heartbreaking!!!! When will this horrible CULT that shatters families and destroys lives GO DOWN????
@annetteblack6882
@annetteblack6882 8 лет назад
Very positive and encouraging... Thank you Eric for your activism...
@supremedad7197
@supremedad7197 8 лет назад
My whole life was afraid when I was in JW. I left went I was in my twenties.
@earthenly
@earthenly 8 лет назад
I couldn't help think of the Bible verse in which Jesus said: "Ye who have not sinned, cast the first stone at her", when you brought up judgment at the end of your video, Eric. - Concerning humans, it's the best verse/message in the whole Bible.
@excelsiorexcelsior1591
@excelsiorexcelsior1591 8 лет назад
Dear Eric, The elders' actions are in direct contradiction to the sworn testimony of Geoffrey Jackson at the Australian Royal Commission! He said under oath that someone in the exact position of this lady would not be hounded, as long as the person did not go around saying they were a JW. I would kindly encourage this lady to write to the ARC and provide them with her testimony. It will highlight just how dishonest and manipulative the gb are. I wish this dear lady nothing but the best for her future. May the Lord bless you Peace be with you, Excelsior!
@JWStruggle
@JWStruggle 8 лет назад
+Excelsior Excelsior Fantastic point, which illustrates the prevarication that comes from the Watchtower and it's representatives when put under scrutiny.
@bosmith7399
@bosmith7399 8 лет назад
+JWStruggle watchtower has more suits pending than a hong kong tailor.
@gr8fulride
@gr8fulride 5 лет назад
the message here is good. I wish no one ever had to suffer mind control. it's truly hard to free yourself from the poisonous tentacles. even harder to realize family and friends are trapped mentally and know it but would loose thier entire social structure and for most , the belief in eternal life after a great war of armegedon, is a huge poisonous chain of fear .
@viciousfiction1012
@viciousfiction1012 8 лет назад
I like the "getting to know myself" quote.... i dont know who your friend is but.... she or he... sounds awesome :)
@viciousfiction1012
@viciousfiction1012 8 лет назад
+KASSIE MEYER You're awesome! You can reach me at viciousfiction101@gmail.com.
@fxsteen
@fxsteen 8 лет назад
thanks for sharing brother!!!
@MistressMari2
@MistressMari2 8 лет назад
They are very controling. I stopped studying with them and going
@marvelprince9893
@marvelprince9893 8 лет назад
good for you
@gtellez07
@gtellez07 8 лет назад
wow!! i loved this! i was just in that same situation just a few months ago (well back in Sept), i was scared, anxious and just a mess! But Thanks to all of you who Ex JW RU-vidrs, i didnt feel so alone. It really amazed me how different the reactions are between JWs and "wordly ppl" when i came out as a gay dude. Non-JW reactions:"You're gay? oh cool! dont forget about my birthday party this weekend! you better go!" and well obviously JW reaction, nothing like that lol.. but all in all im with this girl and really just wanna say THANK YOU ERIC! its crazy that I've never talked to you or met you but still feel compelled to say I Love You Bro! Keep up the amazing work you're doing please! ❤💖💚💛💜👍👌🙌
@thrivingexjw2061
@thrivingexjw2061 8 лет назад
ERIC.. Just letting people know.. JWs have gotten tricky. I had an old boyfriend from high school (1970s) stop by my house a few mo ago to give his condolences for my husband passing. I found it odd he knew any of that info. Since it had been so many years since we had contact! After chatting for 20 min he just happened to mention he's been an elder for 20 yrs!! ( he wasn't a JW in high school)I put 2+2 together & asked if he new my JW family that has shunned me for the last 10 yrs.. He tried to talk around the question but I pinned him down & sure enough, they are friends! I'm sure it was their way of seeing if I had a change of heart without actually talking to me themselves. Geez ! I googled his address & mailed him a book on JW facts ! I would love to get a judicial committee letter in my mail..I was never disfellowshipped but have been labeled apostate. If that ever happens I'll show up and hand them a letter from my attorney!
@rickphillips3860
@rickphillips3860 8 лет назад
Is there an legal action at all to keep these wolves from our door and away from us forever?
@gg4gb1914
@gg4gb1914 8 лет назад
+Anne Nonamouse Yes but you have to pay out of pocket. I paid a Lawyer to have my demand letter and intent to SUE. I had to pay out of pocket. But the Elders got scared and will come back another day. Also I spoke to the Arizona Attorney Generals office. 1st Amendment. However a lot can be done but like George Harrison from the Beatles said " It is going to take money, a whole lot of spending money" The truth is ex jw's do not contribute to campaigns. Don't worry, we are living in the middle of History in the Making. I believe everyone speaking and talking and acting will eventually pay off. Maybe it is better this way.
@camobuff
@camobuff 8 лет назад
+Anne Nonamouse Wolves Don't brother people, evil humans do.
@newiis2c211
@newiis2c211 8 лет назад
+JWCRISIS The US Gov. is very active on Sects now. They just acted on one. www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-polygamous-towns-20160307-story.html
@bosmith7399
@bosmith7399 8 лет назад
well done!... i like also your conpassion for these people.....
@stevenmills3210
@stevenmills3210 8 лет назад
keep it up, it does get easier I have not seen my family for 25 years ,all my love
@slseym07
@slseym07 8 лет назад
Which is why I changed my number as soon as I started my fade... Didn't matter much though because they found out where my new job was and started calling there a few times a week until I agreed to meet with them. After doing my research, I decided to write my letter of disassociation and ended up moving out of state shortly thereafter. It was only after that that the harassment stopped.
@camobuff
@camobuff 8 лет назад
OH NO NOT VALIANT times day that's extra sin lol.
@jwsuicides8095
@jwsuicides8095 8 лет назад
All the best to her. x
@Eveningbreeze721
@Eveningbreeze721 8 лет назад
doofus in a bad suit carrying the microphone haha
@trinikenshin
@trinikenshin 8 лет назад
Yeah...I think they really reeeeeaaaaaallllly want to get me df'ed or disassociated lol #TooSlippery4Now
@esthermarygold-lowe4403
@esthermarygold-lowe4403 8 лет назад
only a few weeks ago I spoke up to my mom. now im being shunned even tho I was never baptised. I have my own channel and started my own videos. not sure how far I'll go with it but considering activism.
@sharesomethingbeautiful6992
@sharesomethingbeautiful6992 8 лет назад
Most if not all JW's are hypocrites. Some of them really do not celebrate their birthdays but I am yet to meet one who doesn't celebrate New Years, Valentines, other religious holidays especially Christmas.
@slseym07
@slseym07 8 лет назад
These JWs are something else... Why can't they let people love their lives? Her story reminds me of myself and the events that led to my disassociation, although the circumstances are kind of different. After I faded, changed my number and moved out of the area, my "well meaning" elders spammed my email with numerous requests insisting that I meet with them. When I didn't respond to those, they started calling my new job multiple times a week, leaving a number without identifying themselves (I recognized they were elders by the phone number they left). They made me look really bad at my new job...a newlywed woman with these strange men calling several times a week and not leaving their name. Things got so bad that I finally agreed to meet with some elders, but with elders in my new area that would be more objective about my situation. They insisted that I needed to meet with them, like I was a criminal being extradited to answer for my "crimes". It was at that moment I realized that something wasn't right about the religion I was raised to believe in. I began researching from there and discovering that I had lived a lie all my life. At the time, I felt that disassociating was my only option. I didn't hear about "fading" until after I sent my letter in. But I do believe that had i not disassociated, they would've continued to hound me wherever I went. It seems like all the JWs is the upper hand in the end. They want the control. It's a very selfish religion indeed.
@newiis2c211
@newiis2c211 8 лет назад
+FutureDoc2017 Horrors, they had no business calling you at work! They call this love? Know your hurting, how long ago did this happen?
@slseym07
@slseym07 8 лет назад
+NEW iis 2C This summer makes 3 years since I faded, and New Year's Eve will mark the 3rd year anniversary of when I mailed out my letter of disassociation. Thanks for reading my "novel" lol. I tried to be brief, but I got carried away.
@newiis2c211
@newiis2c211 8 лет назад
+FutureDoc2017 Your fine, your helping others. These Elders are way out of control on so many levels. I wonder if they would have respected your wishes if you emailed them the first time and said not to contact you in any way shape or form and list email, etc.
@slseym07
@slseym07 8 лет назад
+NEW iis 2C I should have, but at the time I was still kind of indoctrinated and scared to "stand up" against the elders. I'm sure it would've saved me a lot of time if I had spoken up for myself though.
@newiis2c211
@newiis2c211 8 лет назад
+FutureDoc2017 Your ok and survived it, and that's what matters. These Elders use fear, and pressure to control things their way. I wish you all the best.
@kihdv.1773
@kihdv.1773 5 лет назад
Your parents are to blame for allowing this. Elders and the org only have power because are families go along with it. Says more about our families than the org, you are better off without them.
@supremedad7197
@supremedad7197 8 лет назад
I got disassociate for kissing.
@daisymae4048
@daisymae4048 8 лет назад
I have nothing against homosexuals but Yes it's true there are a lot of gays in the truth. I see them all over at the conventions.
@sharesomethingbeautiful6992
@sharesomethingbeautiful6992 8 лет назад
+Daisy Mae That's true, the elders admit knowing my brother is one. They even know he lives with his longtime boyfriend. They know about abortions etc but choose who to disfellowship. I wonder what's the cost to stay in when breaking their laws?
@gloriayoung392
@gloriayoung392 8 лет назад
What is the truth
@annwithaplan9766
@annwithaplan9766 8 лет назад
I'm glad for her. I would like to be her friend, if she doesn't mind. You can share my youtube name with her if she's willing. Thank you.
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