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Primaris Eradicators - The best fire support? 

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@jwec9867
@jwec9867 3 года назад
Just a fun fact I wanted to point out for all you Blood Angel players. Did you know Mephiston is on the front cover of the new BA codex? If you want to find him yourself STOP READING and come back in a minute. At the bottom there is an assault intercessor on the left firing at the right side of the cover and above the muzzle flash is the Silhouette of Mephiston.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Ha great spot I had not noticed that :)
@jwec9867
@jwec9867 3 года назад
@@ba_commander Thanks.
@1stcaptainraldoron538
@1stcaptainraldoron538 3 года назад
The fact that these guys can provide as much firepower as they do and still be able to keep up via advancing makes them solid gold in my book.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Yeah like Aggressors before the nerf really. Boy I miss my Aggressors.
@leiziru9642
@leiziru9642 3 года назад
@@ba_commander IMHO 2 nerfs in a bundle was a bit too much. I see why they've taken away double tapping but the 2nd rule should've stayed.
@lordravenblade
@lordravenblade 3 года назад
The answer is “yes, until GW sells enough of their kit and erratas them a reasonable points cost” Edit for autocorrect
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Yeah enjoy them while it lasts!
@TheVarzoth
@TheVarzoth 3 года назад
It has been done. RIP
@lordravenblade
@lordravenblade 3 года назад
@@TheVarzoth weird thing is their kit isn’t even out yet is it? Just the indomitus ones.
@msgames6889
@msgames6889 3 года назад
Wow John well done, that points per damage is how I look at things when building an army so it's awesome see you do it a well :)
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Thanks man! Glad it was useful! Gonna switch it up next week and do a bit less maths tho I think lol :)
@ardysudarso
@ardysudarso 3 года назад
Nice comparisson report John. I would've loved to see a squad of 3 Attack bikes with Mulit-Meltas added in here to see how they stack up.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
At only 15 points more a model and the fact the bikes can move 14 and still fire on 3s I think they are very decent. Used two in yesterday’s battle!
@revenant7492
@revenant7492 3 года назад
You should add plasma inceptors to your calculations.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
I generally think plasma inceptors are very good with the descent of the angels stratagem to make them strong too!
@ryanlamantia307
@ryanlamantia307 3 года назад
@@ba_commander Oh, so random thought, an assault squad with 3 plasma pistols would not overheat with this stratagem?
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
@@ryanlamantia307 it would still overheat because it’s unmodified rolls of 1.
@IainK76
@IainK76 3 года назад
Quick maths. From deep strike 3 plasma inceptors prob do 12W on a T7 3+ vehicle. However thats with descent of angels and getting re rolls of 1 from a capt etc. 3 Eradicators with their assault weapons do 14W with no buffs...(although to even get close to an inceptors mobility you'd have to put them in reserve). Inceptors will do better against infantry units of 6 or more in the squad due to blast. Inceptors have a bit more utility and better mobility, but need more support whilst Eradicators are much better tank hunters with much less support.
@leiziru9642
@leiziru9642 3 года назад
Mmm MathHammer, just the perfect thing when we can't play on tabletop
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Yeah will hopefully have some archived battle reports up on the channel soon!
@joshlmartin1ify
@joshlmartin1ify 3 года назад
New subscriber here. I just picked up 10 eradicators and now I'm glad I did as I plan on using them for support.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Thanks for subscribing Joshua, welcome to the channel :)
@wazzedon
@wazzedon 3 года назад
Ten seems excessive and would be no fun to play against
@joshlmartin1ify
@joshlmartin1ify 3 года назад
@@wazzedon my meta is extremely competitive
@draculwalker1892
@draculwalker1892 3 года назад
Great video as alwayz brother 🍺👍🏻I knew they would hold up! They kill it for me and I only have 3 but after this video I’m definitely getting more🩸for Sanguinius!!! Really tho thankz for all the hard work you put in, it really helpz ! I know it’z not easy doing all these but we really appreciate it Commander! ✌🏻
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Thanks Dracul :) glad you enjoyed it this week I felt the video was a bit more messy than I’d have liked but it still shows the Eradicators are boss! I am working to build some myself very soon ha!
@tryn3
@tryn3 3 года назад
Thanks so much for a great video agsin! Really enjoyed it as always.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it! Trym is there anything I could have done better?
@luckylarry71
@luckylarry71 3 года назад
Not sure how would this work in a BA list, but combi-melta sternguard drop is still getting the job done ran as Sala/UM/IH successor lists...
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Yeah I really like this idea along with some combi flamers too I think
@ricardoalonso8376
@ricardoalonso8376 3 года назад
Eradicators were on my list, now they are checked twice.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Ha very appropriate!
@porthosduvallon5301
@porthosduvallon5301 3 года назад
Your thoughts on plasma inceptors as fire support?
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Hard to say, the leaked data says they are getting a point hike next week!
@IainK76
@IainK76 3 года назад
Quality vid as always. Thanks
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it iain!
@dalekayse4916
@dalekayse4916 2 года назад
A bit late on this. Getting into Blood Angels a lot the last month or so. If i were to have a dedicated Melta would I be better off running 3-5 Eradicators or a 3 man squad of Attack Bikes with Melta's now? I know they compete in different catagories of fast vs heavy but if i had to choose one over the other?
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 2 года назад
I prefer the bikes as they are so much more mobile, easy to reserve and suffer no penalty to hit when moving.
@mattharland9163
@mattharland9163 3 года назад
Thanks for the vid! The maths back up what everyone is thinking - GW overpowered these whilst nerfing other options to make us all buy their new shinies (I still will, begrudgingly though) Wouldd've been interesting to add in the gladiator variants and maybe grav devs?
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
There’s so many potential options it’s hard to decide when making the videos!
@njh113
@njh113 3 года назад
Great rundown! Think these guys may be displacing your superheavy once they get a kit?
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Kinda fancy replacing it already!
@njh113
@njh113 3 года назад
@@ba_commander Look forward to seeing them in future battle reports!
@callumybob
@callumybob 3 года назад
In the midst of progressing to 2k list. I’m torn between these and atvs
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
ATV's combo up really nicely with a Apothecary!
@TheVarzoth
@TheVarzoth 3 года назад
@@ba_commander not anymore :(
@AsianTrix
@AsianTrix 3 года назад
Eradicators were BROKEN in 8th, they are still excellent in 9th. They should be in every Space Marine list. With Blood Angels, they are EVEN BETTER; because you can get them in range of what you want disappeared off the board.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Yeah they seem crazy good for the point cost!
@knightzix_01
@knightzix_01 3 года назад
I finally got my own indomitus box lol
@knightzix_01
@knightzix_01 3 года назад
So it’s important to use A strong anti vehicle when you see it lol
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Nice man! What are you enjoying?
@shh532
@shh532 3 года назад
I'm tentatively including two squads in my 2k list, but I significantly fear they're going to get nerfed heavily (either removal of double shoot and/or pts increase). They're just pretty overwhelming for firepower and cost. It raises an interesting question about balancing ranged firepower with melee for BA. Being so low in pts cost they really give us more room for melee. Could las fusil eliminators replace them if they got a big pts nerf? Or, in theory, a gladiator lancer?
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
I did a video on the Gladiator a few weeks back they were nowhere near as good as the eradicators! I think a squad of 5 would be perfect or maybe 2 squads of 3.
@awokensheep588
@awokensheep588 3 года назад
Whirlwind is the best Heavy support PERIOD! ;) Suppressive Fire Strat stops overwatch and is even BETTER than fight last rules! :)
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
I mean the Whirlwind certainly has a use as you say, it tends to be pretty lacklustre in damage I find.
@awokensheep588
@awokensheep588 3 года назад
@@ba_commander Sure. But you take it for the strat to negate: Overwatch and they have to fight last and cant Set to Defend for 1 CP :)
@andymcgowan9819
@andymcgowan9819 3 года назад
I like some of your content, but enough with the ads. I will try back in a few weeks to see if they have let up.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Thanks for the feedback Andy the ads system is new to me really. Will tone them down! I don’t often get negative feedback so it’s nice to actually get something I can action on to make the channel better. Thank you.
@MexicanNinja007
@MexicanNinja007 3 года назад
Are they good, yes. Are they great, depends on what they're shooting at. Fighting a lot of vehicles and monsters, they will put in work. Fighting horde armies, overpriced unit killing 6-8 point models Do I think they are the best shooting support unit, no. They lose value when shooting at anything with less than 3 wounds. As a BA player, if we're relying on shooting to win our battles then we should be looking to start an Ironhands or Imperial Fists army. Don't get me wrong, against the right target this unit will shred. However, a good, and often times decent, opponent will limit what this unit is shooting at. Add in the more dense tables and terrain and you can limit this unit.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
That’s true about any shooting unit. In my list which I’m on a 7 game win streak I’m using 700 points of shooting in a BA army, 300 points of troops and the rest CC.
@MexicanNinja007
@MexicanNinja007 3 года назад
@@ba_commander very true. I think the list you've been using in your batreps is great. That tank puts in work and your list is very unique, I also love your use of the veteran unit. Every army should have some form of shooting capability. Keep up your great work!
@Wildcat425B
@Wildcat425B 3 года назад
I hate these things, but that might just be the salt of the internet doing the talking.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
Using them yourself or playing against them?
@Wildcat425B
@Wildcat425B 3 года назад
@@ba_commander Both. Against them it seems like the amount of shooting to get rid of them is higher than I would like. For my Necrons anyways, for the 9th Legion its just getting something in melee then they suffer critical existence failure. Assuming the would be killers dont get vaporized on the way in. With them it makes enemy vehicles seem so... pointless.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander 3 года назад
How do you arm them and how do you run them!? I’m yet to use them!
@Wildcat425B
@Wildcat425B 3 года назад
@@ba_commander I just use the ones from Indomitus since I usually like WYIWYG. So the regular Melta rifle.
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